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    Minnesota at Pittsburgh (10/25/2009)

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    luisgnava
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2009 - 11:32 AM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro:

    Is Polamalu back?

     

    polamalu is back, and i'm predicting 2 interceptions.....

    favre will lose against this defense...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro:

    Is Polamalu back?

     

    polamalu is back, and i'm predicting 2 interceptions.....

    favre will lose against this defense...

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2009 - 12:27 PM ET #27

    I don't think its gonna be too cold this weekend in Pittsburgh is it?  I understand the Favre/weather ideas, but I think its more of a factor in December than the early half of the season, we shall see.  I like Minny +4 but my only play is Minny +11 on a teaser with ATL +11
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    I don't think its gonna be too cold this weekend in Pittsburgh is it?  I understand the Favre/weather ideas, but I think its more of a factor in December than the early half of the season, we shall see.  I like Minny +4 but my only play is Minny +11 on a teaser with ATL +11
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2009 - 3:34 PM ET #28

    wow... Line went up to 4.5... even 5 some places

     

    that suprises me and scares me at the same time...

     

    I don't know if I want to lay 4.5-5 with the way the Steelers have been playing in the 4th quarter...

    I don't want that old man driving down the field for a back-door cover lol...

     

     

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    wow... Line went up to 4.5... even 5 some places

     

    that suprises me and scares me at the same time...

     

    I don't know if I want to lay 4.5-5 with the way the Steelers have been playing in the 4th quarter...

    I don't want that old man driving down the field for a back-door cover lol...

     

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2009 - 9:16 PM ET #29

    Crazy early reverse line movement  would think this would be a FG game. But these line shenanigans make me think vegas wants me to take MIN. 
    Gonna watch the line on this one.
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    Crazy early reverse line movement  would think this would be a FG game. But these line shenanigans make me think vegas wants me to take MIN. 
    Gonna watch the line on this one.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 12:41 AM ET #30

    everything in my gut says steelers own the vikings... meaning vikings +4 is the good bet haha
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    everything in my gut says steelers own the vikings... meaning vikings +4 is the good bet haha
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 9:00 AM ET #31

    I am a Minnesota believer this year saying that they will be a top-of-the class team, but with the reverse line movement I have to go with Pitt by 9 points or so.  I believe that someone said above that Favre has yet to stumble, and just like every year he has that game where he throws 2 or 3 picks and has 150 yds.  Pitt is a solid team as well and also like someone said above I think this is Vegas trying to pull some more people on Minny's side and make up some of that money they have been losing on the big chalk this year.  Should be a hard-nosed great game to watch, but I think Pitt covers and Minnesota finally loses a game (which has to come eventually).

    Minnesota-26

    Pitt-35

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    I am a Minnesota believer this year saying that they will be a top-of-the class team, but with the reverse line movement I have to go with Pitt by 9 points or so.  I believe that someone said above that Favre has yet to stumble, and just like every year he has that game where he throws 2 or 3 picks and has 150 yds.  Pitt is a solid team as well and also like someone said above I think this is Vegas trying to pull some more people on Minny's side and make up some of that money they have been losing on the big chalk this year.  Should be a hard-nosed great game to watch, but I think Pitt covers and Minnesota finally loses a game (which has to come eventually).

    Minnesota-26

    Pitt-35

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 12:04 PM ET #32

    Steelers will win... somewhere in the 31-17 range...  True colors will be on display this week... for both teams. :)
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    Steelers will win... somewhere in the 31-17 range...  True colors will be on display this week... for both teams. :)
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 1:00 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:



    what about that statement is making a fool outta him?

    Don't respond to Pro-V.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:



    what about that statement is making a fool outta him?

    Don't respond to Pro-V.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 1:31 PM ET #34

    Lot of "Easy/Bet the farm/Locks" picks this week...

    Pittsburgh -5

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    Lot of "Easy/Bet the farm/Locks" picks this week...

    Pittsburgh -5

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 1:57 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by coltsalltheway:

    lol i guess everyone have an openion. mine is the steelers choke at home, they could not beat cinci.



    Pro z you are a douchebag my friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coltsalltheway:

    lol i guess everyone have an openion. mine is the steelers choke at home, they could not beat cinci.



    Pro z you are a douchebag my friend.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 2:32 PM ET #36

    The weather won't be a factor in this game. It's supposed to be 54 and partly cloudy in the Burgh this Sunday. What will be a factor are the injuries.

    AP hurt his ankle towards the end of last weeks game and hasn't practiced the last 2 days. He will play but it's something to keep an eye on. Percy Harvin also has a sore shoulder and may not play.

    The other injury which could be HUGE is Antoine Winfield. He's missed his 3rd straight day of practice and is unlikely to go. Minnesota is already ranked 24th (248 ypg allowed) in the league against the pass. If he can't play or if he isn't 100% this could be huge because Pittsburgh is now a passing team (2nd in the league with 297 ypg).

    Joe Flacco was able to pass for 385 yards, 196 in the 4th quarter alone when Winfield went out against this defense last week. Big Ben should be able to match those numbers at least.

    With all of the Viking backers in here I'm surprised the line is still going up. Maybe you guys just haven't checked out the injury reports yet.

    PIT -5.5

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    The weather won't be a factor in this game. It's supposed to be 54 and partly cloudy in the Burgh this Sunday. What will be a factor are the injuries.

    AP hurt his ankle towards the end of last weeks game and hasn't practiced the last 2 days. He will play but it's something to keep an eye on. Percy Harvin also has a sore shoulder and may not play.

    The other injury which could be HUGE is Antoine Winfield. He's missed his 3rd straight day of practice and is unlikely to go. Minnesota is already ranked 24th (248 ypg allowed) in the league against the pass. If he can't play or if he isn't 100% this could be huge because Pittsburgh is now a passing team (2nd in the league with 297 ypg).

    Joe Flacco was able to pass for 385 yards, 196 in the 4th quarter alone when Winfield went out against this defense last week. Big Ben should be able to match those numbers at least.

    With all of the Viking backers in here I'm surprised the line is still going up. Maybe you guys just haven't checked out the injury reports yet.

    PIT -5.5

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 2:42 PM ET #37

    Oh and Polamalu is definitely playing and the steelers just put new grass on the field but they have been getting rain all week and it is supposed to continue to rain up until Sunday. And the Pitt Panthers play a game at Heinz on Saturday. If the field gets a little sloppy I like PITT's chances even more.

     

    SIDE NOTE: This coltsalltheway guy could definitely be Pro-z. I could care less either way but the guy had 12 posts in the STL/INDY thread (which is now on page 3) and he's mispelled some words on his posts (typical pro-z move). Also the guy said he was new to the site but already has 37 posts and continues to argue with everyone. Doesn't that sound like someone we know?

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    Oh and Polamalu is definitely playing and the steelers just put new grass on the field but they have been getting rain all week and it is supposed to continue to rain up until Sunday. And the Pitt Panthers play a game at Heinz on Saturday. If the field gets a little sloppy I like PITT's chances even more.

     

    SIDE NOTE: This coltsalltheway guy could definitely be Pro-z. I could care less either way but the guy had 12 posts in the STL/INDY thread (which is now on page 3) and he's mispelled some words on his posts (typical pro-z move). Also the guy said he was new to the site but already has 37 posts and continues to argue with everyone. Doesn't that sound like someone we know?

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 5:37 PM ET #38

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    The Steelers by default are going to be facing pointspreads that are juiced all season simply because they are the reigning Superbowl Champs. We faded them successfully last week and it worked out and I'm doing the same this week. The Vikings come into this game at 6-0 and I don't remember a 6-0 team ever getting this many points in a game. I went back to 1989 and found just one time a 6-0 team played as an underdog, and it was back in 2006 when the Colts were a 2.5 point dog to the Broncos in Denver. The Colts went on to win that game outright. The fact is that 6-0 teams are 5-2 ATS as a favorite of 4.5 points or less, including the one time they have been posted as an underdog. While the Steelers have won three straight, they have covered just once and on the season, going 1-5 ATS thus far. Despite playing a schedule of teams that are a combined 11-23 on the season, Pittsburgh has outscored these teams by a grand total of just 28 points. You can take any two teams the Steelers have played to date, and they don't have more wins than the Vikings! This is a statement game for the Vikings, because if they knock off the Steelers in Pittsburgh, they will be in the conversation for the best team in the league. Brett Favre has found a comfortable home in Minnesota, mainly because he has Adrian Peterson who is a constant threat out of the backfield to break off a long one. Pittsburgh has become a pass-happy team (not good), and the Vikings have 21 sacks on the season and will be putting pressure on Big Ben. We have seen that take its toll before on the Steelers' offense. This one sets up to be a field-goal-type game, so getting this many points is certainly an overlay and bonus. I'll ride with the red-hot Vikings here.

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    REPOST:

    The Steelers by default are going to be facing pointspreads that are juiced all season simply because they are the reigning Superbowl Champs. We faded them successfully last week and it worked out and I'm doing the same this week. The Vikings come into this game at 6-0 and I don't remember a 6-0 team ever getting this many points in a game. I went back to 1989 and found just one time a 6-0 team played as an underdog, and it was back in 2006 when the Colts were a 2.5 point dog to the Broncos in Denver. The Colts went on to win that game outright. The fact is that 6-0 teams are 5-2 ATS as a favorite of 4.5 points or less, including the one time they have been posted as an underdog. While the Steelers have won three straight, they have covered just once and on the season, going 1-5 ATS thus far. Despite playing a schedule of teams that are a combined 11-23 on the season, Pittsburgh has outscored these teams by a grand total of just 28 points. You can take any two teams the Steelers have played to date, and they don't have more wins than the Vikings! This is a statement game for the Vikings, because if they knock off the Steelers in Pittsburgh, they will be in the conversation for the best team in the league. Brett Favre has found a comfortable home in Minnesota, mainly because he has Adrian Peterson who is a constant threat out of the backfield to break off a long one. Pittsburgh has become a pass-happy team (not good), and the Vikings have 21 sacks on the season and will be putting pressure on Big Ben. We have seen that take its toll before on the Steelers' offense. This one sets up to be a field-goal-type game, so getting this many points is certainly an overlay and bonus. I'll ride with the red-hot Vikings here.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 10:56 PM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by luisgnava:

     polamalu is back, and i'm predicting 2 interceptions.....

    favre will lose against this defense...


    want to put money that he won't?  lol

    favre is 40 but playing like he was 10 years younger

    Pitt's D has been sucking, and a veteran QB is not going to throw 2 interceptions to the same guy.  Now if this was the jets...different story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by luisgnava:

     polamalu is back, and i'm predicting 2 interceptions.....

    favre will lose against this defense...


    want to put money that he won't?  lol

    favre is 40 but playing like he was 10 years younger

    Pitt's D has been sucking, and a veteran QB is not going to throw 2 interceptions to the same guy.  Now if this was the jets...different story.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 11:02 PM ET #40

    last week...how did roethlisberger throw for over 400 yards, and still not cover?
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    last week...how did roethlisberger throw for over 400 yards, and still not cover?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 11:19 PM ET #41

        Gonna be a  LONG afternoon for Big Ben!
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        Gonna be a  LONG afternoon for Big Ben!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2009 - 12:13 AM ET #42

    Pittsburgh has been outscored by almost every team this year, in the 2H

    Now, either they have the lead going into half-time, and letting Minnesota back into the game in the 2H, and winning a close one, or they'll be down going into the 2H, and winning a close one. Either way, I say this game stays close, and would rather have the points.
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    Pittsburgh has been outscored by almost every team this year, in the 2H

    Now, either they have the lead going into half-time, and letting Minnesota back into the game in the 2H, and winning a close one, or they'll be down going into the 2H, and winning a close one. Either way, I say this game stays close, and would rather have the points.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2009 - 6:45 AM ET #43

    Like a spring day in Lambeau...
    LoL..Funny shit about Old man Favre being affected by Pennsylvania weather in October. Get real,the man's been conditioned by frozen tundra years.Of more concern ,CB A.Winfield is doubtful for Minny...Vikes surrendering 448 yards to Ravens !? 
    Minny may be in a shit of trouble vs. Hot Ben.
    Problem comes to mind with Pitt, who besides blowing out NE last year on the road,rarely beat quality teams by more than handful of points.Vikes D looked like a sieve in the 4th quarter vs. inferior Ravens offense n' Pitt must be well focused on that .
    Sense a trend much like unbeaten GMen going into NO,gettin' 3 1/2 with most salivating at free points.Not taking Vegas bait,
    Thinking Vikings will be brought down to earth by defending champs,who seem to be gettin' in gear,with healthy hands back on deck.

    STEELERS 35 VIKINGS 17

        
        BOLA

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    Like a spring day in Lambeau...
    LoL..Funny shit about Old man Favre being affected by Pennsylvania weather in October. Get real,the man's been conditioned by frozen tundra years.Of more concern ,CB A.Winfield is doubtful for Minny...Vikes surrendering 448 yards to Ravens !? 
    Minny may be in a shit of trouble vs. Hot Ben.
    Problem comes to mind with Pitt, who besides blowing out NE last year on the road,rarely beat quality teams by more than handful of points.Vikes D looked like a sieve in the 4th quarter vs. inferior Ravens offense n' Pitt must be well focused on that .
    Sense a trend much like unbeaten GMen going into NO,gettin' 3 1/2 with most salivating at free points.Not taking Vegas bait,
    Thinking Vikings will be brought down to earth by defending champs,who seem to be gettin' in gear,with healthy hands back on deck.

    STEELERS 35 VIKINGS 17

        
        BOLA

     
    jpd110
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2009 - 11:31 AM ET #44

    It is going to be 60 degrees and sunny in Pittsburgh on Sunday according to the NWS. Weather is not an issue here. Should be a very close game. I see a 24-21 Pitt victory. Smart play is probably the vikes w the 6 points.glta
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    It is going to be 60 degrees and sunny in Pittsburgh on Sunday according to the NWS. Weather is not an issue here. Should be a very close game. I see a 24-21 Pitt victory. Smart play is probably the vikes w the 6 points.glta
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2009 - 12:35 PM ET #45

    Quote Originally Posted by JerryWrasse:

    Don't respond to Pro-V.

    Pro-V has been banned. Too bad- the guy was a little obnoxious but had some knowledge when it came to picking the NFL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryWrasse:

    Don't respond to Pro-V.

    Pro-V has been banned. Too bad- the guy was a little obnoxious but had some knowledge when it came to picking the NFL.
     
    NoFrigginWay
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2009 - 1:13 PM ET #46

    Quote Originally Posted by MrMannix:

    Pro-V has been banned. Too bad- the guy was a little obnoxious but had some knowledge when it came to picking the NFL.

    DON'T CONFUSE KNOWLEDGE WITH INACURATE,EGOCENTRIC SUPPOSITIONS...
    EVERYBODY GETS INTO WINNING STREAK ONE TIME OR ANOTHER.
    "LITTLE OBNOXIOUS" ? WHAT PLANET ARE YOU FROM ?
    PRO Z IS BANNED BUT LITTLE SHIT IS USING 2 OR MORE USERNAMES LIKE SOME18-22 YEAR OLD GEEKS DO ON THIS SITE. 
    OPEN YOUR EYES !
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMannix:

    Pro-V has been banned. Too bad- the guy was a little obnoxious but had some knowledge when it came to picking the NFL.

    DON'T CONFUSE KNOWLEDGE WITH INACURATE,EGOCENTRIC SUPPOSITIONS...
    EVERYBODY GETS INTO WINNING STREAK ONE TIME OR ANOTHER.
    "LITTLE OBNOXIOUS" ? WHAT PLANET ARE YOU FROM ?
    PRO Z IS BANNED BUT LITTLE SHIT IS USING 2 OR MORE USERNAMES LIKE SOME18-22 YEAR OLD GEEKS DO ON THIS SITE. 
    OPEN YOUR EYES !
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2009 - 1:20 PM ET #47

    this is MIN first game in the elements since week 1

    problem is its going to be about 60f and a nice sunny day

    how can you not like the gunslinger in this one.

    this should be a close game....prolly last team to have the ball wins

    i'll take MIN to cover

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    this is MIN first game in the elements since week 1

    problem is its going to be about 60f and a nice sunny day

    how can you not like the gunslinger in this one.

    this should be a close game....prolly last team to have the ball wins

    i'll take MIN to cover

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2009 - 5:48 PM ET #48

    pittsburgh has a history of cutting down undefeated squads (see philly and new england in the year they met in the superbowl). Furthermore, pittsburgh's stock is selling pretty low for a team with superbowl caliber talent and one of the top 3 most populous fan bases, and now the public has found a new favorite team to send into pitsburgh, but that's just because the books hooked the public up with 4 points to bet on the 6-0 vikings and we all know the books didn't do that because they think they're going to win. Proponents of the "that's what you said about the chargers/broncos" theory should note that 1) it's a 4 not a 3.5 (different spread) and also note that the books were likely counting on research to unearth all the historical data indicating how dominant the chargers had been at home against the broncos etc.

    # Steelers are 4-1 ATS in their last 5 home games vs. a team with a winning road record.
    # Steelers are 7-2 ATS vs. a team with a winning record.
    # Steelers are 6-2 ATS in their last 8 home games.
    # Steelers are 6-2 ATS in their last 8 games as a home favorite.
    # Steelers are 20-7 ATS in their last 27 games as a home favorite of 3.5-10.0.
    # Steelers are 5-2 ATS in their last 7 games in Week 7
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    pittsburgh has a history of cutting down undefeated squads (see philly and new england in the year they met in the superbowl). Furthermore, pittsburgh's stock is selling pretty low for a team with superbowl caliber talent and one of the top 3 most populous fan bases, and now the public has found a new favorite team to send into pitsburgh, but that's just because the books hooked the public up with 4 points to bet on the 6-0 vikings and we all know the books didn't do that because they think they're going to win. Proponents of the "that's what you said about the chargers/broncos" theory should note that 1) it's a 4 not a 3.5 (different spread) and also note that the books were likely counting on research to unearth all the historical data indicating how dominant the chargers had been at home against the broncos etc.

    # Steelers are 4-1 ATS in their last 5 home games vs. a team with a winning road record.
    # Steelers are 7-2 ATS vs. a team with a winning record.
    # Steelers are 6-2 ATS in their last 8 home games.
    # Steelers are 6-2 ATS in their last 8 games as a home favorite.
    # Steelers are 20-7 ATS in their last 27 games as a home favorite of 3.5-10.0.
    # Steelers are 5-2 ATS in their last 7 games in Week 7
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2009 - 5:49 PM ET #49

    translation...

     

    PITT  -6

     

    they'll win by a touchdown which is why the books don't care if they're giving away 4 or 6 points.

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    translation...

     

    PITT  -6

     

    they'll win by a touchdown which is why the books don't care if they're giving away 4 or 6 points.

     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2009 - 6:03 PM ET #50

    great stats and trends...

     

    I think the 45 degree weather will be a little challenging for the old man...

     

    that and the Steelers pass rush

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    great stats and trends...

     

    I think the 45 degree weather will be a little challenging for the old man...

     

    that and the Steelers pass rush

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