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    Miami at Cincinnati (10/07/2012)

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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2012 - 10:03 AM ET #1

    Away:  Miami [2-2 ATS]
    Home:  Cincinnati [2-1-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Paul Brown Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
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    Team Leaders:

    Miami:
    Passing: Ryan Tannehill (1046)
    Rushing: Reggie Bush (369)
    Receiving: Brian Hartline (455)

    Cincinnati:
    Passing: Andy Dalton (1111)
    Rushing: BenJarvus Green-Ellis (286)
    Receiving: A.J. Green (428)

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    Away:  Miami [2-2 ATS]
    Home:  Cincinnati [2-1-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Paul Brown Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Miami:
    Passing: Ryan Tannehill (1046)
    Rushing: Reggie Bush (369)
    Receiving: Brian Hartline (455)

    Cincinnati:
    Passing: Andy Dalton (1111)
    Rushing: BenJarvus Green-Ellis (286)
    Receiving: A.J. Green (428)

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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2012 - 3:19 AM ET #2

    Cincinnati has given up a league worst 5.4 yds per rush. I think Miami will take advantage of there lack of run defense. Cincy does lead league in sacks but miami responded well against Ari who also gets after the QB well, and cincy hasn't forced turnovers in resent years and seem to be following suit this year. 
    Side note: Leon Hall is still hurt. 
    Give me Miami and the points.
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    Cincinnati has given up a league worst 5.4 yds per rush. I think Miami will take advantage of there lack of run defense. Cincy does lead league in sacks but miami responded well against Ari who also gets after the QB well, and cincy hasn't forced turnovers in resent years and seem to be following suit this year. 
    Side note: Leon Hall is still hurt. 
    Give me Miami and the points.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2012 - 10:26 AM ET #3

    Dolphins +4.5

     

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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2012 - 1:27 PM ET #4

    MY UPSET PICK DOLPHINS MONEYLINE!!!!!!!
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    MY UPSET PICK DOLPHINS MONEYLINE!!!!!!!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2012 - 7:28 PM ET #5

    No Way, No How, No Chance, No Nothing.......

    This game won't even be close

    Bungles -14 if you need to.......................

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    No Way, No How, No Chance, No Nothing.......

    This game won't even be close

    Bungles -14 if you need to.......................

     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2012 - 7:32 PM ET #6

    OOPS - I mean sorry Big Daddy - don't want that bad karma on me................
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2012 - 8:44 PM ET #7

    Leaning Cincy, they have quietly been winning and covering against poor teams.  AJ Green is a beast and hawkins has speed post catch, Dalton looks steady and confident,Defense gives up yds but handled MJD and think they will handle a not 100% Bush, Guarantee Hartline does not catch for 250+yds

    Bengals at home -4
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    Leaning Cincy, they have quietly been winning and covering against poor teams.  AJ Green is a beast and hawkins has speed post catch, Dalton looks steady and confident,Defense gives up yds but handled MJD and think they will handle a not 100% Bush, Guarantee Hartline does not catch for 250+yds

    Bengals at home -4
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2012 - 8:59 PM ET #8

         This road spot fits "like a glove" for the Dolphins! Especially giving the Cards a near heart attack. If the 'Phins can keep the TO's down, the Bungles will cooperate by shooting themselves in the foot. While I feel an upset is possible, I GURANTEE  a cover.

    MIAMI   + 4

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         This road spot fits "like a glove" for the Dolphins! Especially giving the Cards a near heart attack. If the 'Phins can keep the TO's down, the Bungles will cooperate by shooting themselves in the foot. While I feel an upset is possible, I GURANTEE  a cover.

    MIAMI   + 4

     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2012 - 10:38 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuadYeah:

    OOPS - I mean sorry Big Daddy - don't want that bad karma on me................

    LOL don't worry about brother. The Dolphins just signed Gaffney but not sure how effective he will be. He is a great fit for the West coast offense but until he gets acclimated to the offense can't see him contributing much. He might be able to draw coverage away from Hartline and Bess but that's the only contribution I forsee.

    The Dolphins cannot close games as they should be 3-1 and not 1-3. But that's a woulda, shoulda, coulda thing. The future seems brighter but that is yet to be determined.

    As close as the games have been lately in back to back OT games I would have a hard time wagering in this one...All I can say is...

    GO DOLPHINS!!!!!!!!!

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    OOPS - I mean sorry Big Daddy - don't want that bad karma on me................

    LOL don't worry about brother. The Dolphins just signed Gaffney but not sure how effective he will be. He is a great fit for the West coast offense but until he gets acclimated to the offense can't see him contributing much. He might be able to draw coverage away from Hartline and Bess but that's the only contribution I forsee.

    The Dolphins cannot close games as they should be 3-1 and not 1-3. But that's a woulda, shoulda, coulda thing. The future seems brighter but that is yet to be determined.

    As close as the games have been lately in back to back OT games I would have a hard time wagering in this one...All I can say is...

    GO DOLPHINS!!!!!!!!!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2012 - 12:06 AM ET #10

    Quoted by vue21849 - -  I GURANTEE a cover.

    MIAMI + 4

     
    ^^ Well, you know what that means............
    Vue, I thought you were better than that...........
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    Quoted by vue21849 - -  I GURANTEE a cover.

    MIAMI + 4

     
    ^^ Well, you know what that means............
    Vue, I thought you were better than that...........
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2012 - 1:05 AM ET #11

    Under

    (YTD: 21-12-1) 63.6%

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    (YTD: 21-12-1) 63.6%

     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2012 - 2:03 AM ET #12

    Even Tannehil can pass on Miami. I think Dalton is going to feast. 

    Cleveland minus 4.  Coming off that heartbreaking loss with AZ it is going to be hard to get up for this game in Cinncy and they played hard. so they are going to be worn out also.


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    Even Tannehil can pass on Miami. I think Dalton is going to feast. 

    Cleveland minus 4.  Coming off that heartbreaking loss with AZ it is going to be hard to get up for this game in Cinncy and they played hard. so they are going to be worn out also.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2012 - 2:36 AM ET #13

    Oops what a brainfart haha. 
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2012 - 1:37 PM ET #14

    I looked at this game for quite some time last night crunching numbers and studying tendencies and I'm with Vue on this one. Miami for the cover and possible M/L. The Fins run all over the Cincy D which is giving up 5.4 yds/per. I look for Cincy to be 1 dimensional as Green-Ellis admitted to reporters his confidence is shaken after his recent fumbling woes. It doesn't help that he faces the number 1 rushing D in the league. Both D's play into the hands of the opponent's O strength. Miami runs forever and Cincy has it's hands full with Cameron Wake against 1 of the leagues's worst ranked O-lines..Miami also is averaging 1 pick per contest despite being ranked in the bottom of the league vs the pass. Cincy will have spotty success through the air but I look for them to be in a lot of 3rd and longs. This game will come down to turnovers ultimately and both teams look to be about even. Tannehill comes in with confidence and does just enough to compliment what could be 1 of Bush's best games.

     I like the over as well. Cincy hasn't stopped anyone on D besides the 15 ppg Jags and their O will find some succes through the air when Dalton has time. Cleveland managed to put up 27 and have little on O besides Richardson. 27-24 Fins. Over 44 already booked. The score may be even higher assuming Bush breaks a few once he hits the 2nd level vs a poor tackling secondary and Dalton finds success through the air. I;m giving the edge to the Phins based on them winning in the trenches on both sides and also think they come out even or plus 1 in turnovers. 
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    I looked at this game for quite some time last night crunching numbers and studying tendencies and I'm with Vue on this one. Miami for the cover and possible M/L. The Fins run all over the Cincy D which is giving up 5.4 yds/per. I look for Cincy to be 1 dimensional as Green-Ellis admitted to reporters his confidence is shaken after his recent fumbling woes. It doesn't help that he faces the number 1 rushing D in the league. Both D's play into the hands of the opponent's O strength. Miami runs forever and Cincy has it's hands full with Cameron Wake against 1 of the leagues's worst ranked O-lines..Miami also is averaging 1 pick per contest despite being ranked in the bottom of the league vs the pass. Cincy will have spotty success through the air but I look for them to be in a lot of 3rd and longs. This game will come down to turnovers ultimately and both teams look to be about even. Tannehill comes in with confidence and does just enough to compliment what could be 1 of Bush's best games.

     I like the over as well. Cincy hasn't stopped anyone on D besides the 15 ppg Jags and their O will find some succes through the air when Dalton has time. Cleveland managed to put up 27 and have little on O besides Richardson. 27-24 Fins. Over 44 already booked. The score may be even higher assuming Bush breaks a few once he hits the 2nd level vs a poor tackling secondary and Dalton finds success through the air. I;m giving the edge to the Phins based on them winning in the trenches on both sides and also think they come out even or plus 1 in turnovers. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2012 - 8:29 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuadYeah:

    Quoted by vue21849 - -  I GURANTEE a cover.

    MIAMI + 4

     
    ^^ Well, you know what that means............
    Vue, I thought you were better than that...........

    It means absolutely nothing my friend. Either you bet the Dolphins or don't bet at all. A friendly difference between us means nothing to me. It's just one game out of over 240- get over it my man! I am better than that- about one half a red star more on my NFL RSI.
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    Quoted by vue21849 - -  I GURANTEE a cover.

    MIAMI + 4

     
    ^^ Well, you know what that means............
    Vue, I thought you were better than that...........

    It means absolutely nothing my friend. Either you bet the Dolphins or don't bet at all. A friendly difference between us means nothing to me. It's just one game out of over 240- get over it my man! I am better than that- about one half a red star more on my NFL RSI.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2012 - 2:35 AM ET #16

    Cinci this is a warmup 
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2012 - 7:29 AM ET #17

    Cinn on the M/L.....Mia with the points

    Philbin will get the most out of the Fins after a tough loss to Ari but not enough to win.

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    Cinn on the M/L.....Mia with the points

    Philbin will get the most out of the Fins after a tough loss to Ari but not enough to win.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2012 - 12:08 PM ET #18

    I'm a little surprised to see so many people on the fish.  And I must say, the arguments have been really convincing too.  Miami's rush defense has been really impressive and Tannehill has looked more and more comfortable each week. 

    However, I just don't feel comfortable taking rookie quaterbacks on the road.  Not to mention, this is the same Miami defense that allowed Mark Sanchez to throw for over 300 yards and made Kevin Kolb look like Joe Montana last week. 

    Cincy also has a guy by the name of Andy Dalton, who has quietly put together some of the most impressive numbers of any quarterback this year.  The guy took Cincy to the playoffs last year & I still feel like Cincy is under the radar.  Maybe it was because of their embarassing loss versus Baltimore in week 1.

    The Cincy team that I have been watching has looked impressive and explosive.  And don't forget, they held Maurice Jones Drew to 38 total rushing yards last week!!

    The books should have made this line bigger.  I'm taking the hot hand and rolling w Cincy.  Miami coming in off a tough road loss to Arizona will lose another tough one to the red hot bengals. 

           

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    I'm a little surprised to see so many people on the fish.  And I must say, the arguments have been really convincing too.  Miami's rush defense has been really impressive and Tannehill has looked more and more comfortable each week. 

    However, I just don't feel comfortable taking rookie quaterbacks on the road.  Not to mention, this is the same Miami defense that allowed Mark Sanchez to throw for over 300 yards and made Kevin Kolb look like Joe Montana last week. 

    Cincy also has a guy by the name of Andy Dalton, who has quietly put together some of the most impressive numbers of any quarterback this year.  The guy took Cincy to the playoffs last year & I still feel like Cincy is under the radar.  Maybe it was because of their embarassing loss versus Baltimore in week 1.

    The Cincy team that I have been watching has looked impressive and explosive.  And don't forget, they held Maurice Jones Drew to 38 total rushing yards last week!!

    The books should have made this line bigger.  I'm taking the hot hand and rolling w Cincy.  Miami coming in off a tough road loss to Arizona will lose another tough one to the red hot bengals. 

           

     
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    It means absolutely nothing my friend. Either you bet the Dolphins or don't bet at all. A friendly difference between us means nothing to me. It's just one game out of over 240- get over it my man! I am better than that- about one half a red star more on my NFL RSI.

    I love you Vue - to all you NOOBS - that's why the Vue is the Vue - - anyone disrespecting that is a fool - - hey, we may disagree on this one, but good luck to you as always buddy...........It''s us against the bookies, RIGHT!?!?!?!!!.......... C'mon, let's get that $$$$$$$$$$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    It means absolutely nothing my friend. Either you bet the Dolphins or don't bet at all. A friendly difference between us means nothing to me. It's just one game out of over 240- get over it my man! I am better than that- about one half a red star more on my NFL RSI.

    I love you Vue - to all you NOOBS - that's why the Vue is the Vue - - anyone disrespecting that is a fool - - hey, we may disagree on this one, but good luck to you as always buddy...........It''s us against the bookies, RIGHT!?!?!?!!!.......... C'mon, let's get that $$$$$$$$$$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2012 - 7:45 PM ET #20

    mia score 20 pts to ariz, and 21 pts to nyj   why not score more on a soft defense like cincy?  i take the over here and leaning mia 
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    mia score 20 pts to ariz, and 21 pts to nyj   why not score more on a soft defense like cincy?  i take the over here and leaning mia 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2012 - 11:44 PM ET #21

    Miami's Defense gives up too many points, gave up 23 to the JETS!!! and 24 to the Cardinals... 2 low end offenses. 

    I think the homefield advantage in this game is huge!  Game at Cincy who is coming off 2 nice road wins! Crowd will be pumped, Defense always plays better when the crowd gives them energy.

    I know Miami likes to run the ball and stop the run but that receipe words much better at home, not on the road with a rookie QB.  I think they get down 2 scores early and are forced to throw.

    All that said - Bengals and Over  

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    Miami's Defense gives up too many points, gave up 23 to the JETS!!! and 24 to the Cardinals... 2 low end offenses. 

    I think the homefield advantage in this game is huge!  Game at Cincy who is coming off 2 nice road wins! Crowd will be pumped, Defense always plays better when the crowd gives them energy.

    I know Miami likes to run the ball and stop the run but that receipe words much better at home, not on the road with a rookie QB.  I think they get down 2 scores early and are forced to throw.

    All that said - Bengals and Over  

     
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2012 - 1:02 PM ET #22

    CINCY  WINS  BY  A LATE FG
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2012 - 1:57 PM ET #23

    CINCINATI WIN
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2012 - 6:31 PM ET #24

    cincy only -3 at home against a 1-3 miami squad?   sounds too fishy
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2012 - 12:44 AM ET #25

    fins beat who ? oakand who was coming off a monday night game and early sunday game vs east coast. they lost to the best team in afc on the road week one, lost to jets, lost to az with a bad running game.

    cinci beat cleveland at home. won at washington which i called for their home opener and crushed, i called that again vs jags.

    i been leaning cinci all week and no need to change.

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    fins beat who ? oakand who was coming off a monday night game and early sunday game vs east coast. they lost to the best team in afc on the road week one, lost to jets, lost to az with a bad running game.

    cinci beat cleveland at home. won at washington which i called for their home opener and crushed, i called that again vs jags.

    i been leaning cinci all week and no need to change.

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