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Posted: Sep. 17, 2010 - 2:42 AM ET #26

the best backup in the NFL is by far marc bulger. he`s pretty damm good when he has a Oline to protect him. he looked great in the preseason. i never seen a QB get the ball off so quick. if flacco went down there would be no drop in the offence. he even might be better then flacco. that was a great pickup by the ravens
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the best backup in the NFL is by far marc bulger. he`s pretty damm good when he has a Oline to protect him. he looked great in the preseason. i never seen a QB get the ball off so quick. if flacco went down there would be no drop in the offence. he even might be better then flacco. that was a great pickup by the ravens
 
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Posted: Sep. 17, 2010 - 10:28 AM ET #27

At this stage in their careers I'll take Vick or Tavaris Jackson as my backup over Bulger all day.
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At this stage in their careers I'll take Vick or Tavaris Jackson as my backup over Bulger all day.
 
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Posted: Sep. 17, 2010 - 5:52 PM ET #28

really? i know it was only preseason but bulger looked very sharp. vick still cant read a defence. bulger is injury prone though. but i think any QB would be injured if they had st. louis Oline the last couple of years
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really? i know it was only preseason but bulger looked very sharp. vick still cant read a defence. bulger is injury prone though. but i think any QB would be injured if they had st. louis Oline the last couple of years
 
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Posted: Sep. 17, 2010 - 7:27 PM ET #29

Both teams have talent at the skill positions

Browns are tough at home (They suck but are much better at home)

KC coming of a real short week 

KC coming of a huge win will have a let down (tough to get motivated after beating the Chargers then playing the Browns)

Browns will win 24-20
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Both teams have talent at the skill positions

Browns are tough at home (They suck but are much better at home)

KC coming of a real short week 

KC coming of a huge win will have a let down (tough to get motivated after beating the Chargers then playing the Browns)

Browns will win 24-20
 
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Posted: Sep. 17, 2010 - 11:02 PM ET #30

Seneca Wallace is better than JAKE the snake. I think Wallace is too quick with his throw and on the run for KC, Browns do have the advantage with Seneca not being on tape much to study. But this dude is like cribbs at the QB position. just has talent and has been robbed his carreer. He should be a starter. by the way, Im from Cleveland

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Seneca Wallace is better than JAKE the snake. I think Wallace is too quick with his throw and on the run for KC, Browns do have the advantage with Seneca not being on tape much to study. But this dude is like cribbs at the QB position. just has talent and has been robbed his carreer. He should be a starter. by the way, Im from Cleveland

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Posted: Sep. 18, 2010 - 2:05 PM ET #31

KC is gonna rear its ugly head in Cleveland tomorrow.
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Posted: Sep. 18, 2010 - 8:49 PM ET #33

Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Insight:

yes joedaddy that post was directed to u

And im right back at you.  hey- i said the sure bet was teasing philly.  did i know Kolb would get injured in the 1st half?  No.  Did Philly get beat down?  NO.  In fact, they had a chance to tie the game at the very end.

so save it. 

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yes joedaddy that post was directed to u

And im right back at you.  hey- i said the sure bet was teasing philly.  did i know Kolb would get injured in the 1st half?  No.  Did Philly get beat down?  NO.  In fact, they had a chance to tie the game at the very end.

so save it. 

 
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Posted: Sep. 19, 2010 - 12:28 AM ET #34

I cant see kc playing out their asses two weeks in a row.

The Clowns at home gonna due it. The defense needs to step up. Lets see if this is the game were Hayden can get his first pick six.

Cleve woulda won last week if Jake didn't fall apart. Well, no Jake this week. Seneca has a boner cus he gets the start. Have you seen this mo fo run? better than Vick before jail.

Cleveland will lose this if they lose focus. Mangini needs to learn how to counter the adjustments from opposing team. Its not necessarily all the player fault. Mangini is the other half of the problem.
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I cant see kc playing out their asses two weeks in a row.

The Clowns at home gonna due it. The defense needs to step up. Lets see if this is the game were Hayden can get his first pick six.

Cleve woulda won last week if Jake didn't fall apart. Well, no Jake this week. Seneca has a boner cus he gets the start. Have you seen this mo fo run? better than Vick before jail.

Cleveland will lose this if they lose focus. Mangini needs to learn how to counter the adjustments from opposing team. Its not necessarily all the player fault. Mangini is the other half of the problem.
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Posted: Sep. 19, 2010 - 12:32 AM ET #35

Look to the left.  My god what an ass

                     
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Posted: Sep. 19, 2010 - 12:34 AM ET #36

Perfect spot for Cleveland to win by 10 plus no matter who's playing quarterback. We all watched KC and i was on them(read thread) but you cant factor in special teams to the extreme. Clev loses at TB and KC win vs SD but that was last week and once again bookies make a living on betters betting last weeks team and not the current match-up. KC has electric rookies but betting on rookies on the road to make huge plays is usually a recipe for a loss. Cassel still must show me something before i bet him on the road unless he's getting more points. Clev 27 KC 17..LIP

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Perfect spot for Cleveland to win by 10 plus no matter who's playing quarterback. We all watched KC and i was on them(read thread) but you cant factor in special teams to the extreme. Clev loses at TB and KC win vs SD but that was last week and once again bookies make a living on betters betting last weeks team and not the current match-up. KC has electric rookies but betting on rookies on the road to make huge plays is usually a recipe for a loss. Cassel still must show me something before i bet him on the road unless he's getting more points. Clev 27 KC 17..LIP

 
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no lean on either side.. Taking the over 39 here.. BoL guys
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Quote Originally Posted by Radiators:

 "You dont live in Cleveland!"


Yo Radiator
I do live in Cleveland. No need to lie. heres my proof -Lebron is an asshole ! piece of shit dicked us.

AND I got 2 green bars in the meter in 2 weeks. only one behind u

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Yo Radiator
I do live in Cleveland. No need to lie. heres my proof -Lebron is an asshole ! piece of shit dicked us.

AND I got 2 green bars in the meter in 2 weeks. only one behind u

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Posted: Sep. 19, 2010 - 2:53 AM ET #41

oh and for u seneca wallace fans:  since 2008, the guy is 2-8 as a starter.  good luck backing them cleveland clowns!
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Cleveland - 27                                Kansas City - 20

Browns -3                              over 38.5

Chiefs usually lay an egg after playing the Chargers. I expect the same to happen today.

Dawg Pound will be Woffing...

Cleveland -- over

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Cleveland - 27                                Kansas City - 20

Browns -3                              over 38.5

Chiefs usually lay an egg after playing the Chargers. I expect the same to happen today.

Dawg Pound will be Woffing...

Cleveland -- over

 
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Brownies -3

 

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Colt Mccoy -3

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Quote Originally Posted by joedaddy76:

Quote Originally Posted by Skubishack:

KC pulled off a big win on MNF in week one and now get the Browns in Cleveland with the Browns as a -2 favorite. So that mean on a nuetral site the books would make KC a -1 fav. I'm not sold on either team but moreso I not sold on giving KC that much respect here. These teams have met 4 times since 2002 and have averaged 68.5 pts combined per game. I don't think we will see that much scoring in this game and the o/u of 38 pts reflects that belief from the linesmakers also. I think the Browns come through at home in a close game and cover the -2 pts.

My Guesstimate - Cleveland-20 Kansas City-17

well, ur guesstimate pretty much sucks cuzz it sounds like a guess.  do ur homework, son, and u will learn that KC is a much improved team.  how much respect is KC getting by being a pick 'em going to Cleveland?  that statement makes absolutely no sense.  the browns have been a loser team ever since they've reestablished themselves in Cleveland, and i dont see things changing much for them this year.  for starters, they have Jake The Flake Delhomme whose best days are far behind him and who probably wont last all 16 games this year.  in fact, i read earlier that he's nursing his ankle already after getting beat in Jacksonville.  2nd:  their backfield looks mediocre, whereas KC's backfield looks somewhat explosive.  did u not watch how they beat the Chargers last nite?  or were u busy watching Jersey Shore or something?  because they beat the Chargers with speed.  and on both sides of the ball.  Rivers looked scared half of the time.  and the Chargers running game was ineffective for the most part.  now- let's talk about weapons.  outside of josh cribbs and massaquoi, they really dont have much going for them.  and those 2 guys arent so great.  chiefs have an amazing special teams guy in rookie Javier Arenas.  proven vets WR Chris Chambers and Dwayne Bowe along with added speed / talent from rookie Dexter McCluster.

Chiefs win this game.  The line does not give KC respect.  It actually is giving suckass Cleveland too much respect.  Approach the Browns with caution this year or u will end up a broke better.  And please, if all u can do is guesswork, then save ur witless opinions.  this forum is for people who do their homework.  now go sharpen ur pencil, son!!!

Final Score - KC-16 Browns-14

First off... KISS SOME NUTS.

KC did win in what I said would be a close game... if you can call it a game. Your awesome Chiefs got 3 FG's on offense but won due to an interception return. I'm sure that was what they had in thier gameplan, ya think? Cleveland is also lousy but always plays much better at home which is why I picked em with the low line vs a lousy KC team on a short week. Before yesterdays game, KC was 12-7 ATS in thier L-19 on the road but was a pitiful 4-14 SU and this was a low line so I sided with the Browns and would do it again with KC LOSING more times than they would win in this exact same situation at Cleveland.

I did get the under correct and the game went pretty much as I expected except for who scored the only big play in the game. KC Still sucks but if you wanna take em thats your privilege to do so in this country. If you don't like my picks then so be it, make your own picks junior and don't try and start crap here with me.

And for your information... all my selection are posted as guesstimates because that's what they are. Unless you have advanced knowledge of the ACTUAL final score beforehand then any score you "predict" is actually a guess. I make mine based on what I research so they are not just a guess, but they are guesstimates. So that's what I call em.

And for that GB/Philly game you mentioned in this thread... My guesstimate was GB-27 Philly-20... Well what do you know... that was the final score. I actually had two exact final scores last week including the Ravens 10-9 win over the Jets. How did you do?

There is no need to try and be such a ignoramus or try and start crap here on covers. If you don't agree, you can always move on and look for friends that dwell where your mind seems to be.

Maybe you could try and actually start a thread of your own and see who actually cares about what it is you are trying to say. When I see that you have never started a thread and have 59 post in 3 years, and when you post in threads like this you are talking smack, I find it hard to believe that you actually care about this site or its content.

You will learn someday... might as well try and start now...son.

For the record... Your posted side plays for yesterday went 2-3-1 which is 40%... I select EACH and EVERY game EVERY WEEK because that's what I like to do. My side selections went 6-8-1 which is slightly under 43%. A Philly moose prevented a 50% day. So there is no reason to talk crap is there? Just post your selections, enjoy yourself but don't come in here hurling personal insults.

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Quote Originally Posted by Skubishack:

KC pulled off a big win on MNF in week one and now get the Browns in Cleveland with the Browns as a -2 favorite. So that mean on a nuetral site the books would make KC a -1 fav. I'm not sold on either team but moreso I not sold on giving KC that much respect here. These teams have met 4 times since 2002 and have averaged 68.5 pts combined per game. I don't think we will see that much scoring in this game and the o/u of 38 pts reflects that belief from the linesmakers also. I think the Browns come through at home in a close game and cover the -2 pts.

My Guesstimate - Cleveland-20 Kansas City-17

well, ur guesstimate pretty much sucks cuzz it sounds like a guess.  do ur homework, son, and u will learn that KC is a much improved team.  how much respect is KC getting by being a pick 'em going to Cleveland?  that statement makes absolutely no sense.  the browns have been a loser team ever since they've reestablished themselves in Cleveland, and i dont see things changing much for them this year.  for starters, they have Jake The Flake Delhomme whose best days are far behind him and who probably wont last all 16 games this year.  in fact, i read earlier that he's nursing his ankle already after getting beat in Jacksonville.  2nd:  their backfield looks mediocre, whereas KC's backfield looks somewhat explosive.  did u not watch how they beat the Chargers last nite?  or were u busy watching Jersey Shore or something?  because they beat the Chargers with speed.  and on both sides of the ball.  Rivers looked scared half of the time.  and the Chargers running game was ineffective for the most part.  now- let's talk about weapons.  outside of josh cribbs and massaquoi, they really dont have much going for them.  and those 2 guys arent so great.  chiefs have an amazing special teams guy in rookie Javier Arenas.  proven vets WR Chris Chambers and Dwayne Bowe along with added speed / talent from rookie Dexter McCluster.

Chiefs win this game.  The line does not give KC respect.  It actually is giving suckass Cleveland too much respect.  Approach the Browns with caution this year or u will end up a broke better.  And please, if all u can do is guesswork, then save ur witless opinions.  this forum is for people who do their homework.  now go sharpen ur pencil, son!!!

Final Score - KC-16 Browns-14

First off... KISS SOME NUTS.

KC did win in what I said would be a close game... if you can call it a game. Your awesome Chiefs got 3 FG's on offense but won due to an interception return. I'm sure that was what they had in thier gameplan, ya think? Cleveland is also lousy but always plays much better at home which is why I picked em with the low line vs a lousy KC team on a short week. Before yesterdays game, KC was 12-7 ATS in thier L-19 on the road but was a pitiful 4-14 SU and this was a low line so I sided with the Browns and would do it again with KC LOSING more times than they would win in this exact same situation at Cleveland.

I did get the under correct and the game went pretty much as I expected except for who scored the only big play in the game. KC Still sucks but if you wanna take em thats your privilege to do so in this country. If you don't like my picks then so be it, make your own picks junior and don't try and start crap here with me.

And for your information... all my selection are posted as guesstimates because that's what they are. Unless you have advanced knowledge of the ACTUAL final score beforehand then any score you "predict" is actually a guess. I make mine based on what I research so they are not just a guess, but they are guesstimates. So that's what I call em.

And for that GB/Philly game you mentioned in this thread... My guesstimate was GB-27 Philly-20... Well what do you know... that was the final score. I actually had two exact final scores last week including the Ravens 10-9 win over the Jets. How did you do?

There is no need to try and be such a ignoramus or try and start crap here on covers. If you don't agree, you can always move on and look for friends that dwell where your mind seems to be.

Maybe you could try and actually start a thread of your own and see who actually cares about what it is you are trying to say. When I see that you have never started a thread and have 59 post in 3 years, and when you post in threads like this you are talking smack, I find it hard to believe that you actually care about this site or its content.

You will learn someday... might as well try and start now...son.

For the record... Your posted side plays for yesterday went 2-3-1 which is 40%... I select EACH and EVERY game EVERY WEEK because that's what I like to do. My side selections went 6-8-1 which is slightly under 43%. A Philly moose prevented a 50% day. So there is no reason to talk crap is there? Just post your selections, enjoy yourself but don't come in here hurling personal insults.

 
 
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Interesting game notes: Cleveland is now 0-2 having blown two forth quarter leads and going scoreless in the second half of both games. The Browns are at the Ravens next week and a third consecutive scoreless second half is a very real possibility. Both of the teams that beat Cleveland (TB and KC ) are among the group of 6 NFL teams that remain unbeaten after week two of the 2010 NFL season. The SBC Saints can also remain unbeaten with a win at SF on MNF tonight.

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Interesting game notes: Cleveland is now 0-2 having blown two forth quarter leads and going scoreless in the second half of both games. The Browns are at the Ravens next week and a third consecutive scoreless second half is a very real possibility. Both of the teams that beat Cleveland (TB and KC ) are among the group of 6 NFL teams that remain unbeaten after week two of the 2010 NFL season. The SBC Saints can also remain unbeaten with a win at SF on MNF tonight.

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