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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2008 - 1:33 AM ET #76

    Quote Originally Posted by wakeurmindup:

    I have been to several Titans vs Colts games at LP Field and it usually comes down to being a conference battle with Tennessee either winning or being closer than they should have been. ScoopyDew was right when he said they play em close with a ok teams and now they have a good team. You have to look at the little things here and Titans have em in their favor right now in a game that typically goes close. They have the stonger D, they make less mistakes (colts have been awful at with penalties this year), they run the ball thus control the clock and they have a better kicking game thus control the field. Bironas and Hentrich are clutch in each of their respective positions. It will probably be a close game as it has been in recent past so I am not sure if I will make a play or not but I think Titans win in a great Monday night game, GL all



    i dont deny that u went to those games but your statement is not very accurate, unless your talking about the 80s or 90s or something.

    Since 2003, tennessee has gone 2-3 ats and 1-4 straight up when they are at home and facing indy.  So actually the opposite of your statement is true in recent history anyways. 

    I havent bet on this game yet but im really starting to see alot of value on Indy moneyline here at +180.  This just looks like one of those spots where things start to even out a little.  Indy coming off big deafeat as a favorite and are now dogged.  And tennessee coming off a blowout win against a garbage team.  Tennessee hasnt lost a game or not covered a spread yet this season.  and lets face it, its not gonna last forever.  And who better to lose to than a division foe like indy who is very familiar with them and has a history of beating them.  Meanwhile indy got off to a terrible start this season and needs this game bad to get back in playoff race.  Its easy to see why most people think Tennessee will roll in this spot.  But i dont think its gonna be that easy and indy still has the best quarterback in football.  They are still fully capable of beating any team any day and this is as about as important a game for indy this season as they have had, whereas tennessee could drop this game and its not the end of the world.  To me this game seems like a coin flip and i see some good value getting +180, screw the spread, indy needs this game. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by wakeurmindup:

    I have been to several Titans vs Colts games at LP Field and it usually comes down to being a conference battle with Tennessee either winning or being closer than they should have been. ScoopyDew was right when he said they play em close with a ok teams and now they have a good team. You have to look at the little things here and Titans have em in their favor right now in a game that typically goes close. They have the stonger D, they make less mistakes (colts have been awful at with penalties this year), they run the ball thus control the clock and they have a better kicking game thus control the field. Bironas and Hentrich are clutch in each of their respective positions. It will probably be a close game as it has been in recent past so I am not sure if I will make a play or not but I think Titans win in a great Monday night game, GL all



    i dont deny that u went to those games but your statement is not very accurate, unless your talking about the 80s or 90s or something.

    Since 2003, tennessee has gone 2-3 ats and 1-4 straight up when they are at home and facing indy.  So actually the opposite of your statement is true in recent history anyways. 

    I havent bet on this game yet but im really starting to see alot of value on Indy moneyline here at +180.  This just looks like one of those spots where things start to even out a little.  Indy coming off big deafeat as a favorite and are now dogged.  And tennessee coming off a blowout win against a garbage team.  Tennessee hasnt lost a game or not covered a spread yet this season.  and lets face it, its not gonna last forever.  And who better to lose to than a division foe like indy who is very familiar with them and has a history of beating them.  Meanwhile indy got off to a terrible start this season and needs this game bad to get back in playoff race.  Its easy to see why most people think Tennessee will roll in this spot.  But i dont think its gonna be that easy and indy still has the best quarterback in football.  They are still fully capable of beating any team any day and this is as about as important a game for indy this season as they have had, whereas tennessee could drop this game and its not the end of the world.  To me this game seems like a coin flip and i see some good value getting +180, screw the spread, indy needs this game. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2008 - 1:42 AM ET #77

    orangeash-
    Thats good info.  Thanks for the breakdown.

    I just feel like, esp. in the NFL, lots of stat stuff doesn' t matter as much.  Not in any way trying to knock you for your analysis - we need the stat stuff to get our bearing.  I think the betting line should have taken all that into consideration. 

    Every player in the NFL is a stud, and if you catch a team too smug or looking ahead or without full emotional investment in the upcoming game they will lose.  I feel that NFL is about who wants it more on that day.  (ind for example - they destroy Bal's D, and then get knocked around by GB's D). I think indy wants it more, they know their season will be done if they don' t win (wild card? hmmm...maybe).  Indy in desperation mode. but who knows, maybe Ten is going to match that intensity and blow indy up.

    If Ten wins, it will be a passing of the baton, and that doesn't happen without a struggle from the former champions.

    One thing I do like about Ten is that they score when they are suppose to (in the red zone).  Those field goals, can kill your cover!!

    GLTA

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    orangeash-
    Thats good info.  Thanks for the breakdown.

    I just feel like, esp. in the NFL, lots of stat stuff doesn' t matter as much.  Not in any way trying to knock you for your analysis - we need the stat stuff to get our bearing.  I think the betting line should have taken all that into consideration. 

    Every player in the NFL is a stud, and if you catch a team too smug or looking ahead or without full emotional investment in the upcoming game they will lose.  I feel that NFL is about who wants it more on that day.  (ind for example - they destroy Bal's D, and then get knocked around by GB's D). I think indy wants it more, they know their season will be done if they don' t win (wild card? hmmm...maybe).  Indy in desperation mode. but who knows, maybe Ten is going to match that intensity and blow indy up.

    If Ten wins, it will be a passing of the baton, and that doesn't happen without a struggle from the former champions.

    One thing I do like about Ten is that they score when they are suppose to (in the red zone).  Those field goals, can kill your cover!!

    GLTA

     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2008 - 1:57 AM ET #78

    Sports Network Predicted Outcome:

    Titans 30, Colts 13

    Many an NFL team with a big advantage in its division has gotten complacent, but that doesn't figure to happen to the Titans this week.

    There is too much respect for Indianapolis to expect Tennessee to take the Colts litely, and Fisher's club certainly doesn't want to see the gap closed in the division.

    Luckily for the Titans, they happen to catch the Colts at a good time.

    There is little chance Indy will be able to stop the Tennessee run consistently, and the Colts' inability to run the football will be a problem against a pass rush and secondary that figure to be dialed in on Manning.

    Look for Indianapolis to put up a fight in the first half before being worn down in the second by the Titans' physical, playmaking style.

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    Sports Network Predicted Outcome:

    Titans 30, Colts 13

    Many an NFL team with a big advantage in its division has gotten complacent, but that doesn't figure to happen to the Titans this week.

    There is too much respect for Indianapolis to expect Tennessee to take the Colts litely, and Fisher's club certainly doesn't want to see the gap closed in the division.

    Luckily for the Titans, they happen to catch the Colts at a good time.

    There is little chance Indy will be able to stop the Tennessee run consistently, and the Colts' inability to run the football will be a problem against a pass rush and secondary that figure to be dialed in on Manning.

    Look for Indianapolis to put up a fight in the first half before being worn down in the second by the Titans' physical, playmaking style.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2008 - 2:13 AM ET #79

    TITANS WILL ROLL IN THIS GAME!!monday's usually been goin over, and these 2 teams r rivals so the foot probably wont be taken off the gas...i think it will be about 31-17 titans...gl all
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    TITANS WILL ROLL IN THIS GAME!!monday's usually been goin over, and these 2 teams r rivals so the foot probably wont be taken off the gas...i think it will be about 31-17 titans...gl all
     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2008 - 2:33 AM ET #80

    titans and over GLTA
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    titans and over GLTA
     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2008 - 7:10 AM ET #81

    Someone Bet the House, Farm, Boat and Family at BetJamaica...
    Tennessee -10.5
     
    that one gonna hurt bad.
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    Someone Bet the House, Farm, Boat and Family at BetJamaica...
    Tennessee -10.5
     
    that one gonna hurt bad.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2008 - 8:28 AM ET #82

    Who has tenn played??? KC, Houston, Cin, Minn, Balt (13-10)  Indy not showing to be the same team but Monday night Peyton and comp, I think Tenn will have their work cut out.
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    Who has tenn played??? KC, Houston, Cin, Minn, Balt (13-10)  Indy not showing to be the same team but Monday night Peyton and comp, I think Tenn will have their work cut out.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2008 - 9:21 AM ET #83

    Indy.
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    Indy.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2008 - 9:26 AM ET #84

    Not willing to give up more than four points. Monday night system play: Play on a divisional favorite of 7 or less after winning 2 straight games 25-8.

    Manning should get a healthy dose of Haynesworth and Vanden Bosch. 

    Plays:  1) Tenn -4 and 2) Tenn ml & under 40
              

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    Not willing to give up more than four points. Monday night system play: Play on a divisional favorite of 7 or less after winning 2 straight games 25-8.

    Manning should get a healthy dose of Haynesworth and Vanden Bosch. 

    Plays:  1) Tenn -4 and 2) Tenn ml & under 40
              

     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2008 - 10:24 AM ET #85

    No way Indy can protect Manning this year he runnin for his life and Tenn will chase his ass down and make his life miserable tonight. Tenn -4 3 units
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    No way Indy can protect Manning this year he runnin for his life and Tenn will chase his ass down and make his life miserable tonight. Tenn -4 3 units
     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2008 - 10:34 AM ET #86

    People have mentioned that this is not the same Colts team...True
     
    However, this IS  the NFL; which stands for No Fucking Logic...
     
    Tennessee looks way too easy. There are too many reasons why you should play them. 
     
     This is precisely why you go large on the Colts!
     
    You won't be sorry...
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    People have mentioned that this is not the same Colts team...True
     
    However, this IS  the NFL; which stands for No Fucking Logic...
     
    Tennessee looks way too easy. There are too many reasons why you should play them. 
     
     This is precisely why you go large on the Colts!
     
    You won't be sorry...
     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2008 - 10:43 AM ET #87

    ALL YOU TITANS PICKERS..TITANS DOESNT HAVE PASSING GAMES...AND COLTS WILL BE FIRED UP AND BLITZ THEM  LIKE KIDS GOING AFTER THE ICE CREAM TRUCK...AND IT WILL GO UNDERS ON THIS GAME..TRUST ME..
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    ALL YOU TITANS PICKERS..TITANS DOESNT HAVE PASSING GAMES...AND COLTS WILL BE FIRED UP AND BLITZ THEM  LIKE KIDS GOING AFTER THE ICE CREAM TRUCK...AND IT WILL GO UNDERS ON THIS GAME..TRUST ME..
     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2008 - 11:03 AM ET #88

    Quote Originally Posted by timmy86:

    People have mentioned that this is not the same Colts team...True
     
    However, this IS  the NFL; which stands for No Fucking Logic...
     
    Tennessee looks way too easy. There are too many reasons why you should play them. 
     
     This is precisely why you go large on the Colts!
     
    You won't be sorry...
     

     

    I agree totally, the betting public has a short memory, the money will be on tthe titans tonight, manning and the colts will cover.

    The under looks good too....

    Large on the colts tonight for me.

    GL

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by timmy86:

    People have mentioned that this is not the same Colts team...True
     
    However, this IS  the NFL; which stands for No Fucking Logic...
     
    Tennessee looks way too easy. There are too many reasons why you should play them. 
     
     This is precisely why you go large on the Colts!
     
    You won't be sorry...
     

     

    I agree totally, the betting public has a short memory, the money will be on tthe titans tonight, manning and the colts will cover.

    The under looks good too....

    Large on the colts tonight for me.

    GL

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2008 - 11:07 AM ET #89

    Colt has no run D, no run OFF, no ground game ,period.
    Tenn -4
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    Colt has no run D, no run OFF, no ground game ,period.
    Tenn -4
     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2008 - 11:12 AM ET #90

    Colts and the OVER....
     
     
    probably just gonna take the COLTS ML...
     
    last time I reversed a MNF game was
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    Colts and the OVER....
     
     
    probably just gonna take the COLTS ML...
     
    last time I reversed a MNF game was
     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2008 - 11:17 AM ET #91

    Vegas loves the our short-term memories. Indy blows baltimore and everyone jumps on Indy against GB. GB blows Indy and the majority (62%) is on Tennessee.

    TN is carried by White and Johnson, but without a solid QB you just aren't a champion team regardless of how great your backs are (e.g. Minnesota).

    You can use the "Tennesee has GREAT defense" bit, but it won't carry much weight: how did Indy fare against, Baltimore, who at the time was #1 in both pass AND rush D?

    If any of you watched the GB/Indy game, you'll know that Dungy will have punished his team well this week for all the careless penalties (110 yards!) and 2 interceptions. I don't really like either team much in this game, but I would lean on Indy just because Peyton Manning is still Peyton Manning with a solid receiving corps and a bit healthier linemen.

    Since ALL stats are generally leaning toward Titans - I'm taking
    Indy
    +4

    GLA


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    Vegas loves the our short-term memories. Indy blows baltimore and everyone jumps on Indy against GB. GB blows Indy and the majority (62%) is on Tennessee.

    TN is carried by White and Johnson, but without a solid QB you just aren't a champion team regardless of how great your backs are (e.g. Minnesota).

    You can use the "Tennesee has GREAT defense" bit, but it won't carry much weight: how did Indy fare against, Baltimore, who at the time was #1 in both pass AND rush D?

    If any of you watched the GB/Indy game, you'll know that Dungy will have punished his team well this week for all the careless penalties (110 yards!) and 2 interceptions. I don't really like either team much in this game, but I would lean on Indy just because Peyton Manning is still Peyton Manning with a solid receiving corps and a bit healthier linemen.

    Since ALL stats are generally leaning toward Titans - I'm taking
    Indy
    +4

    GLA


     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2008 - 11:21 AM ET #92

    Quote Originally Posted by jdawg07:

    Game Plan:  

    Offensively, the Colts have to do a better job of controlling the game tempo.

    Indianapolis wants to get the ball to its receivers as early and as often as possible.

    Use the passing game to set up the run.

    And score touchdowns instead of field goals when they get the ball in the red zone.

    Minimize physical and mental errors.

    Defensively, first and foremost, slow down the running game.

    Stopping it completely will be a tough chore, but keep a two-yard run to a two-yard run. Limit breakouts.

    Get after the quarterback, collapse the pocket and force him to throw before he’s ready.

    Play at a high speed.

    Control the game tempo from the defensive side.

    Play the defense the way it’s designed. And play smart.

     

    You should hit the Colts up for a job, you seem to know all about it!

    Your missing one thing, you have to have the players that can handle it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdawg07:

    Game Plan:  

    Offensively, the Colts have to do a better job of controlling the game tempo.

    Indianapolis wants to get the ball to its receivers as early and as often as possible.

    Use the passing game to set up the run.

    And score touchdowns instead of field goals when they get the ball in the red zone.

    Minimize physical and mental errors.

    Defensively, first and foremost, slow down the running game.

    Stopping it completely will be a tough chore, but keep a two-yard run to a two-yard run. Limit breakouts.

    Get after the quarterback, collapse the pocket and force him to throw before he’s ready.

    Play at a high speed.

    Control the game tempo from the defensive side.

    Play the defense the way it’s designed. And play smart.

     

    You should hit the Colts up for a job, you seem to know all about it!

    Your missing one thing, you have to have the players that can handle it.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2008 - 11:36 AM ET #93

    IMO...If the Houston & KC could be able put up 10 or 14 points againts Titans; I won't be any doubt that Mannings & company does it also!".

    Colts  17
    Titans 20 Final.

    Note. This is homecoming for Manning - He graduated from Tenn. U.


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    IMO...If the Houston & KC could be able put up 10 or 14 points againts Titans; I won't be any doubt that Mannings & company does it also!".

    Colts  17
    Titans 20 Final.

    Note. This is homecoming for Manning - He graduated from Tenn. U.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2008 - 11:42 AM ET #94

    Great info and a nice read jdawg07.Thank you sir.Short of making some adjustments vs the pass (for Manning),I dont see Tenn "fixing" anything if it isnt broke. -4 Tenn and watching the line on O/U before game time to decide.
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    Great info and a nice read jdawg07.Thank you sir.Short of making some adjustments vs the pass (for Manning),I dont see Tenn "fixing" anything if it isnt broke. -4 Tenn and watching the line on O/U before game time to decide.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2008 - 11:57 AM ET #95

    Quote Originally Posted by SuckerBet77:



    If you haven't noticed, this is NOT the same Colts team we have grown accustomed to seeing the last several years.

    If you havn't noticed..... they still have that same guy under center....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuckerBet77:



    If you haven't noticed, this is NOT the same Colts team we have grown accustomed to seeing the last several years.

    If you havn't noticed..... they still have that same guy under center....

     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2008 - 12:10 PM ET #96

    Tough game to cap. I think the Titans are the play but I would hate to have them up 4 in the last 2:00 min. of the game and Manning with the ball. I think the Under is a better play. Titans don't give up much defensively and offensively they love to run the ball. Don't be fooled by the Colts defensive showing last week. They are better than that. Are you really worried about Kerry Collins beating you through the air? Looks like a FG game to me. Take the Under 40.
     
    Titans 17
    Colts 14
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    Tough game to cap. I think the Titans are the play but I would hate to have them up 4 in the last 2:00 min. of the game and Manning with the ball. I think the Under is a better play. Titans don't give up much defensively and offensively they love to run the ball. Don't be fooled by the Colts defensive showing last week. They are better than that. Are you really worried about Kerry Collins beating you through the air? Looks like a FG game to me. Take the Under 40.
     
    Titans 17
    Colts 14
     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2008 - 12:14 PM ET #97

    I officially know one thing: I don't know what I'm talking bout. College picks are fine. NFL is almost impossible,,,.it seems like take the opposite of what you are thinking...I like the titans to kill indy...so there you go...Its indy big time...
    ps: god bless the tulsa hurricanes
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    I officially know one thing: I don't know what I'm talking bout. College picks are fine. NFL is almost impossible,,,.it seems like take the opposite of what you are thinking...I like the titans to kill indy...so there you go...Its indy big time...
    ps: god bless the tulsa hurricanes
     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2008 - 12:19 PM ET #98

    Titans should control the line of scrimmage
     
    Titans -4.5
     
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    Titans should control the line of scrimmage
     
    Titans -4.5
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2008 - 12:40 PM ET #99

    the public has pushed the ov and under down the public is almost always wrong I like the 40-41 points with peyton workin for me and the Tenn defense over big time!!
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    the public has pushed the ov and under down the public is almost always wrong I like the 40-41 points with peyton workin for me and the Tenn defense over big time!!
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2008 - 12:42 PM ET #100

    Here we go again. 

    If you don't know my name by now then I guess I haven't posted enough winners for ya.  I've been kicking ass and taking names of late and tonight will be no different.  Yesterday I gave you Miami, Dallas, Philly and just about every game except for Oakland and Pittsburgh. 

    Here's another one of those games for the homers.  How attractive is Tennessee looking at -4?  Pretty damn attractive.  They're undefeated and going up against the Colts who just are not the same team they were a few years ago.  I'm showing that the public is siding with the Titans, but not by much.  The line did move from -3.5 to -4.  I think this line will sit @ 4?  Maybe not.  Either way, when something looks easy to me, I get on the other side.  Colts got clobbered by the Pack on the road last week and Titans took care of business, again.  But this is a huge rival game.  Do we really expect to see the Titans end up in the same spot at the Pats last year?  Give me a break.  It's time for the Titans to lose.  This line is a couple points lower than it should be.  I think odds makers not only take into consideration that this is a big rival game and should be close, but they take into consideration that fact that indy will win.  I've always been a firm believer that Vegas knows.  Tonight, they know what's up.

    This game isn't as sweet as the Browns a couple weeks ago on MNF, but it's not bad either. 

    Take Colts +4 for a LARGE sized play
    Take Colts ML for a SMALL play

    *I also have Colts at +11 in a small 7 point teaser I did with the Eagles*




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    Here we go again. 

    If you don't know my name by now then I guess I haven't posted enough winners for ya.  I've been kicking ass and taking names of late and tonight will be no different.  Yesterday I gave you Miami, Dallas, Philly and just about every game except for Oakland and Pittsburgh. 

    Here's another one of those games for the homers.  How attractive is Tennessee looking at -4?  Pretty damn attractive.  They're undefeated and going up against the Colts who just are not the same team they were a few years ago.  I'm showing that the public is siding with the Titans, but not by much.  The line did move from -3.5 to -4.  I think this line will sit @ 4?  Maybe not.  Either way, when something looks easy to me, I get on the other side.  Colts got clobbered by the Pack on the road last week and Titans took care of business, again.  But this is a huge rival game.  Do we really expect to see the Titans end up in the same spot at the Pats last year?  Give me a break.  It's time for the Titans to lose.  This line is a couple points lower than it should be.  I think odds makers not only take into consideration that this is a big rival game and should be close, but they take into consideration that fact that indy will win.  I've always been a firm believer that Vegas knows.  Tonight, they know what's up.

    This game isn't as sweet as the Browns a couple weeks ago on MNF, but it's not bad either. 

    Take Colts +4 for a LARGE sized play
    Take Colts ML for a SMALL play

    *I also have Colts at +11 in a small 7 point teaser I did with the Eagles*




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