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    Indianapolis at St. Louis (10/25/2009)

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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 8:12 PM ET #26

    The NFC West is horrible. Indy should light the Lambs up regardless and win by 17-21 points.
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    The NFC West is horrible. Indy should light the Lambs up regardless and win by 17-21 points.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 8:40 PM ET #27

    With 100% of the public on Indy why is the line not moving?
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    With 100% of the public on Indy why is the line not moving?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 9:04 PM ET #28

    Indy 35
    St Louis 13

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    Indy 35
    St Louis 13

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 9:15 PM ET #29

       Colts -win and cover!    !!!!!       Let's see- if I can play the good teams against teams like Jacksonville,Kansas City,Cleveland,Detroit,Carolina, Oakland,Washington,Tampa Bay,Tennessee, and the St Louie Lambs- by the end of December, I'll be vacationing in Hawaii!!!!

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       Colts -win and cover!    !!!!!       Let's see- if I can play the good teams against teams like Jacksonville,Kansas City,Cleveland,Detroit,Carolina, Oakland,Washington,Tampa Bay,Tennessee, and the St Louie Lambs- by the end of December, I'll be vacationing in Hawaii!!!!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2009 - 12:35 PM ET #30

    How is it the Eagles, a very inconsistent team with an even more inconsistent qb, were -14 against a Raiders team that can play some defense. yet the colts are -13 to the rams on an indoor track with the best qb in the league??? The rams are the WORST team in the league, now way this line should be any lower than -17. Any thoughts on why?
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    How is it the Eagles, a very inconsistent team with an even more inconsistent qb, were -14 against a Raiders team that can play some defense. yet the colts are -13 to the rams on an indoor track with the best qb in the league??? The rams are the WORST team in the league, now way this line should be any lower than -17. Any thoughts on why?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2009 - 12:42 PM ET #31

    Anyone remember that game Indy played against Cleveland last year, Indy won 10-6 everyone had them to cover like a 13 pt spread I believe, I had them -3 on a teaser and had to sweat it the whole way, actually Indy got a defensive score to cover the -3
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    Anyone remember that game Indy played against Cleveland last year, Indy won 10-6 everyone had them to cover like a 13 pt spread I believe, I had them -3 on a teaser and had to sweat it the whole way, actually Indy got a defensive score to cover the -3
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2009 - 12:49 PM ET #32

    I've been perfect on the colts this year, I had the Jags week 1 and the colts the rest of the way, the most value I've almost ever seen was when they were 3pt dogs at Mia & Arz  and laying 3.5 at tenn.  Now the books have caught up.  While Indy could easily cover there isn't near as much value in this one.  I won't be playing this one either way, usually on double digit spreads I shy away from playing either side.
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    I've been perfect on the colts this year, I had the Jags week 1 and the colts the rest of the way, the most value I've almost ever seen was when they were 3pt dogs at Mia & Arz  and laying 3.5 at tenn.  Now the books have caught up.  While Indy could easily cover there isn't near as much value in this one.  I won't be playing this one either way, usually on double digit spreads I shy away from playing either side.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2009 - 1:26 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by pickinvet:

    Anyone remember that game Indy played against Cleveland last year, Indy won 10-6 everyone had them to cover like a 13 pt spread I believe, I had them -3 on a teaser and had to sweat it the whole way, actually Indy got a defensive score to cover the -3

    I see your point but this is not the same indy team as last year and that cleveland team had a much better defense than this rams squad and the game was played on grass. manning is playing atthe highest level of his career. the rams are averaging LESS THAN 7 PTS A GAME!!! and that is boosted because of their 20 pt explosion last week. cant understand why this line hasnt skyrocketed

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickinvet:

    Anyone remember that game Indy played against Cleveland last year, Indy won 10-6 everyone had them to cover like a 13 pt spread I believe, I had them -3 on a teaser and had to sweat it the whole way, actually Indy got a defensive score to cover the -3

    I see your point but this is not the same indy team as last year and that cleveland team had a much better defense than this rams squad and the game was played on grass. manning is playing atthe highest level of his career. the rams are averaging LESS THAN 7 PTS A GAME!!! and that is boosted because of their 20 pt explosion last week. cant understand why this line hasnt skyrocketed

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2009 - 1:46 PM ET #34

    Just seems to me the last few years (excluding all the DD fav's covering early season 09) that when the spread is lower, a team like Indy will win by 17, and when the spread is higher they win by a smaller margin, not the 07 pats though, they covered a lot of big spreads.  Its hard to say, but this is for sure the least value the colts have carried all year
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    Just seems to me the last few years (excluding all the DD fav's covering early season 09) that when the spread is lower, a team like Indy will win by 17, and when the spread is higher they win by a smaller margin, not the 07 pats though, they covered a lot of big spreads.  Its hard to say, but this is for sure the least value the colts have carried all year
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2009 - 2:49 PM ET #35

    The NFC West is a horrible conference from top to bottom. Indy will have their way the Lambs.
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    The NFC West is a horrible conference from top to bottom. Indy will have their way the Lambs.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2009 - 2:54 PM ET #36

    dude dont give it so much thought. holly just take indi. everything says take indy. indi coming off a byweek. indi has it all on the o line and not to say that manning is the qb. indi has a sick defense and i'm not sure who said sanders is playing. also the rams are just not the same team anymore... they are 0-6 and i doubt that they will even beat the lions. they couldn't beat the jags when they tryed. ok even if st louis scores 14 points or even 20 on indi. manning will score at least 40 points. this is a no brainer
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    dude dont give it so much thought. holly just take indi. everything says take indy. indi coming off a byweek. indi has it all on the o line and not to say that manning is the qb. indi has a sick defense and i'm not sure who said sanders is playing. also the rams are just not the same team anymore... they are 0-6 and i doubt that they will even beat the lions. they couldn't beat the jags when they tryed. ok even if st louis scores 14 points or even 20 on indi. manning will score at least 40 points. this is a no brainer
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2009 - 3:20 PM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by JerryWrasse:

    With 100% of the public on Indy why is the line not moving?

    It has moved, from 11' to 13'

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryWrasse:

    With 100% of the public on Indy why is the line not moving?

    It has moved, from 11' to 13'

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2009 - 4:13 PM ET #38

    Ok I'm on this game in teaser fashion too many pts for me to lay although I think they will cover heres the teaser

    Ind -1
    NE -2
    SD +8
    Minny +17.5
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    Ok I'm on this game in teaser fashion too many pts for me to lay although I think they will cover heres the teaser

    Ind -1
    NE -2
    SD +8
    Minny +17.5
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2009 - 4:30 PM ET #39

    Where's pro z?  The guy is totally lying.  I work at Caesars Windsor and we do not offer Vegas style gambling.  You have to parlay a ticket with a 2 game minimum.  You can't just put 5000 on one game.  So he is talking out of his ass. His threads are thoroughly entertaining and idiotic at the same time.
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    Where's pro z?  The guy is totally lying.  I work at Caesars Windsor and we do not offer Vegas style gambling.  You have to parlay a ticket with a 2 game minimum.  You can't just put 5000 on one game.  So he is talking out of his ass. His threads are thoroughly entertaining and idiotic at the same time.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2009 - 5:41 PM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by coltsalltheway:

    dude dont give it so much thought. holly just take indi. everything says take indy. indi coming off a byweek. indi has it all on the o line and not to say that manning is the qb. indi has a sick defense and i'm not sure who said sanders is playing. also the rams are just not the same team anymore... they are 0-6 and i doubt that they will even beat the lions. they couldn't beat the jags when they tryed. ok even if st louis scores 14 points or even 20 on indi. manning will score at least 40 points. this is a no brainer


    Pro z has been exposed as a fraud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coltsalltheway:

    dude dont give it so much thought. holly just take indi. everything says take indy. indi coming off a byweek. indi has it all on the o line and not to say that manning is the qb. indi has a sick defense and i'm not sure who said sanders is playing. also the rams are just not the same team anymore... they are 0-6 and i doubt that they will even beat the lions. they couldn't beat the jags when they tryed. ok even if st louis scores 14 points or even 20 on indi. manning will score at least 40 points. this is a no brainer


    Pro z has been exposed as a fraud.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2009 - 5:42 PM ET #41

    Liar Liar pants on fire hang them on the telephone wire.


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    Liar Liar pants on fire hang them on the telephone wire.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2009 - 5:42 PM ET #42

    That being said Colts in a romp.
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    That being said Colts in a romp.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2009 - 6:01 PM ET #43

    ?? what the hell are you talking about?!?

    i am sure you are a fraud your self with a new account. also i have been to ceasers casino and they offer a wide range of gambling options. what floor do you work on?!? and what is your job.

    as for this pro-z guy i have no idea who he is.

    but my question to you is why do you have a new account?!? and how would you know who pro-z is if this is the first time you are posting?

     

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    ?? what the hell are you talking about?!?

    i am sure you are a fraud your self with a new account. also i have been to ceasers casino and they offer a wide range of gambling options. what floor do you work on?!? and what is your job.

    as for this pro-z guy i have no idea who he is.

    but my question to you is why do you have a new account?!? and how would you know who pro-z is if this is the first time you are posting?

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2009 - 6:06 PM ET #44

    let me just say in addition "you have no life" do you think about guys week after week?!? do you have a girlfriend?!? i just went back and seen all them posts by pro-z

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    let me just say in addition "you have no life" do you think about guys week after week?!? do you have a girlfriend?!? i just went back and seen all them posts by pro-z

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2009 - 6:07 PM ET #45

    Quote Originally Posted by SilvioDante:

    How is it the Eagles, a very inconsistent team with an even more inconsistent qb, were -14 against a Raiders team that can play some defense. yet the colts are -13 to the rams on an indoor track with the best qb in the league??? The rams are the WORST team in the league, now way this line should be any lower than -17. Any thoughts on why?

    I've seen people comparing this to the Eagles/Raiders game last week but the differences are that was a East Coast team traveling to the West Coast, game was outdoor on grass, Oakland has a pass rush.

    The Rams have absolutely no pass rush and Manning indoors is impossible to stop and he will easily have a game like he did in Arizona weeks ago. Indy also coming off bye.

    I dont think this game is comparable and Rams are actually more worthless at home than on the road the last couple years. Steven Jackson will get some yards but they will be down my two scores at half time and he'll be irrelevant. Rams have no receiver left due to injuries to come back and cover with the passing game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilvioDante:

    How is it the Eagles, a very inconsistent team with an even more inconsistent qb, were -14 against a Raiders team that can play some defense. yet the colts are -13 to the rams on an indoor track with the best qb in the league??? The rams are the WORST team in the league, now way this line should be any lower than -17. Any thoughts on why?

    I've seen people comparing this to the Eagles/Raiders game last week but the differences are that was a East Coast team traveling to the West Coast, game was outdoor on grass, Oakland has a pass rush.

    The Rams have absolutely no pass rush and Manning indoors is impossible to stop and he will easily have a game like he did in Arizona weeks ago. Indy also coming off bye.

    I dont think this game is comparable and Rams are actually more worthless at home than on the road the last couple years. Steven Jackson will get some yards but they will be down my two scores at half time and he'll be irrelevant. Rams have no receiver left due to injuries to come back and cover with the passing game.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2009 - 6:11 PM ET #46

    and it sounds like he proved all of us wrong on the denver game.

    the guy is a good gambler. i just seen all his posts.

     

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    and it sounds like he proved all of us wrong on the denver game.

    the guy is a good gambler. i just seen all his posts.

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2009 - 9:37 PM ET #47

    INDY INDY INDY -13

    _PICK OF THE YEAR -

    BET THE FARM UNDER TWO TD'S.

    PARLAY OF THE WEEK:

    INDY-13/SD-5/JETS-6

    ZOOMG - MESSAGE WITH WITH A THANKS WHEN YOU WIN!

     

     

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    INDY INDY INDY -13

    _PICK OF THE YEAR -

    BET THE FARM UNDER TWO TD'S.

    PARLAY OF THE WEEK:

    INDY-13/SD-5/JETS-6

    ZOOMG - MESSAGE WITH WITH A THANKS WHEN YOU WIN!

     

     

     
    coltsalltheway
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2009 - 9:57 PM ET #48

    the upset of the week will be oakland beating the jets.. oakland +7 and yah i do see sd winning by 5 and indi by 20
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    the upset of the week will be oakland beating the jets.. oakland +7 and yah i do see sd winning by 5 and indi by 20
     
    SilvioDante
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 12:15 AM ET #49

    Quote Originally Posted by JBoss:

    I've seen people comparing this to the Eagles/Raiders game last week but the differences are that was a East Coast team traveling to the West Coast, game was outdoor on grass, Oakland has a pass rush.

    The Rams have absolutely no pass rush and Manning indoors is impossible to stop and he will easily have a game like he did in Arizona weeks ago. Indy also coming off bye.

    I dont think this game is comparable and Rams are actually more worthless at home than on the road the last couple years. Steven Jackson will get some yards but they will be down my two scores at half time and he'll be irrelevant. Rams have no receiver left due to injuries to come back and cover with the passing game.

    I believe that was exactly the point i was making in comparing it to the eagles game.......And the comparison was the line, which was higher for the eagles than the colts in this game. which it shouldnt be, based on all the points you just made. thats the first time ive ever seen someone disagree with something and back up their point by agreeing with the post they are disagreeing with.........im getting a headache

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBoss:

    I've seen people comparing this to the Eagles/Raiders game last week but the differences are that was a East Coast team traveling to the West Coast, game was outdoor on grass, Oakland has a pass rush.

    The Rams have absolutely no pass rush and Manning indoors is impossible to stop and he will easily have a game like he did in Arizona weeks ago. Indy also coming off bye.

    I dont think this game is comparable and Rams are actually more worthless at home than on the road the last couple years. Steven Jackson will get some yards but they will be down my two scores at half time and he'll be irrelevant. Rams have no receiver left due to injuries to come back and cover with the passing game.

    I believe that was exactly the point i was making in comparing it to the eagles game.......And the comparison was the line, which was higher for the eagles than the colts in this game. which it shouldnt be, based on all the points you just made. thats the first time ive ever seen someone disagree with something and back up their point by agreeing with the post they are disagreeing with.........im getting a headache

     

     
     
    pizoniballer31
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 6:09 AM ET #50

    I HAVE A QUESTION FOR EVERYONE?THIS LOOKS ALOT LIKE THE RAIDER GAME WHEN 85% CONSENSUS POUNDED PHILLY.I PERSONALLY POUNED THE OVER IN NO VS NY & NE IN THE SECOND HALF.THIS LOOKS TO GOOD TO BE TRUE.BULGER IS BACK MABYE THEY CAN COVER OR COLTS 70-0 I DON'T KNOW.I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT LOL..

     

    GOOD LUCK

     

    MABYE A SQUARE PICK WE'LL SEE

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    I HAVE A QUESTION FOR EVERYONE?THIS LOOKS ALOT LIKE THE RAIDER GAME WHEN 85% CONSENSUS POUNDED PHILLY.I PERSONALLY POUNED THE OVER IN NO VS NY & NE IN THE SECOND HALF.THIS LOOKS TO GOOD TO BE TRUE.BULGER IS BACK MABYE THEY CAN COVER OR COLTS 70-0 I DON'T KNOW.I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT LOL..

     

    GOOD LUCK

     

    MABYE A SQUARE PICK WE'LL SEE

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