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    Indianapolis at New England (11/21/2010)

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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2010 - 1:39 AM ET #1

    Away:  Indianapolis [5-3-1 ATS]
    Home:  New England [5-3-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 4:15 PM
    Stadium: Gillette Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
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    Team Leaders:

    Indianapolis:
    Passing: Peyton Manning (2663)
    Rushing: Joseph Addai (406)
    Receiving: Reggie Wayne (758)

    New England:
    Passing: Tom Brady (2176)
    Rushing: BenJarvus Green-Ellis (472)
    Receiving: Wes Welker (444)

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    Away:  Indianapolis [5-3-1 ATS]
    Home:  New England [5-3-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 4:15 PM
    Stadium: Gillette Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Indianapolis:
    Passing: Peyton Manning (2663)
    Rushing: Joseph Addai (406)
    Receiving: Reggie Wayne (758)

    New England:
    Passing: Tom Brady (2176)
    Rushing: BenJarvus Green-Ellis (472)
    Receiving: Wes Welker (444)

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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2010 - 4:47 AM ET #2

    takin the over 50.5  as a weak play   and New england -3.  this is the game of da week....no doubt in terms of battles. hard game to cap.  jump on new england now...before the line goes up
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    takin the over 50.5  as a weak play   and New england -3.  this is the game of da week....no doubt in terms of battles. hard game to cap.  jump on new england now...before the line goes up
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2010 - 8:51 AM ET #3

    New Englad Plays the way they did against the Steelers against a banged up Colts team and this will be an easy win at home for them in the fridged weather against a dome teams first real cold game.

    PATS

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    New Englad Plays the way they did against the Steelers against a banged up Colts team and this will be an easy win at home for them in the fridged weather against a dome teams first real cold game.

    PATS

     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2010 - 11:28 AM ET #4

    I'm not going to read too much into this line because it makes zero sense to me!  Basically saying if these 2 teams were playing on a neutral site it would be dead even.  That's a joke.  Brady going for his 24th straight home win after dismantling the Steelers in Pitt??? Plus, in the freezing cold against a reeling Colts team.  I would be shocked to see the Patriots drop another game all year.  They just hit on all cylinders and they're not about to stop against one of their biggest rivals as of late...

    Patriots -3 BIG.
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    I'm not going to read too much into this line because it makes zero sense to me!  Basically saying if these 2 teams were playing on a neutral site it would be dead even.  That's a joke.  Brady going for his 24th straight home win after dismantling the Steelers in Pitt??? Plus, in the freezing cold against a reeling Colts team.  I would be shocked to see the Patriots drop another game all year.  They just hit on all cylinders and they're not about to stop against one of their biggest rivals as of late...

    Patriots -3 BIG.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2010 - 1:40 PM ET #5

    should be the night game....
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    should be the night game....
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2010 - 6:52 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by deckham:

    I'm not going to read too much into this line because it makes zero sense to me!  Basically saying if these 2 teams were playing on a neutral site it would be dead even.  That's a joke.  Brady going for his 24th straight home win after dismantling the Steelers in Pitt??? Plus, in the freezing cold against a reeling Colts team.  I would be shocked to see the Patriots drop another game all year.  They just hit on all cylinders and they're not about to stop against one of their biggest rivals as of late...

    Patriots -3 BIG.




    and yes dude1618, they need to flex this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deckham:

    I'm not going to read too much into this line because it makes zero sense to me!  Basically saying if these 2 teams were playing on a neutral site it would be dead even.  That's a joke.  Brady going for his 24th straight home win after dismantling the Steelers in Pitt??? Plus, in the freezing cold against a reeling Colts team.  I would be shocked to see the Patriots drop another game all year.  They just hit on all cylinders and they're not about to stop against one of their biggest rivals as of late...

    Patriots -3 BIG.




    and yes dude1618, they need to flex this one.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2010 - 7:09 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by dude1618:

    should be the night game....

    It was a night game on NBC last year plus they have to keep us NFC East folks happy   Giants@Eagles on NBC yeah baby yeah, last night was the first time i was actually smiling after i lost a bet, i bet the skins but boy the eagles were fun to watch last night.

    Back to the topic at hand, how can you bet the Colts here? unless you do them in a teaser you can simply not bet them because Brady has 24 consecutive home wins and the spread is a field goal which means unless the colts get another failed 4th and 18 hit to the head penalty they have to win outright to cover the spread, am i right? and unless your 1 of those "i will fade the public" folks the only play is Pats -3, also remember last years game , correct me if im wrong but did Bill go for it on 4th down because he did not trust his defense, the way they are playing now you think he will trust them? you bet your ass he does, not only that but i think this is about revenge, i think the Patriots defense torture Jacob Tammy and co, they will double team Wayne, Garcon is inconsistent plus they will contain there running game. 

    I see a 14+ points win but before i go if my above comments have not convinced you can you picture this on sunday night espn sportscentre "Tom Brady was handed his first home loss in 25 games as the Colts beat the Pats...." Trust me ive been there, in the NFL never bet against a guy or team going for a record/milestone especially when they are so close, just like last year the 2nd meeting between the Pack/Vikes i said to myself Favre will not sweep his old club and beat them at Lambeau, there is no way...guess what happened, i had to suffer watching his win on sportscentre the rest of the week. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by dude1618:

    should be the night game....

    It was a night game on NBC last year plus they have to keep us NFC East folks happy   Giants@Eagles on NBC yeah baby yeah, last night was the first time i was actually smiling after i lost a bet, i bet the skins but boy the eagles were fun to watch last night.

    Back to the topic at hand, how can you bet the Colts here? unless you do them in a teaser you can simply not bet them because Brady has 24 consecutive home wins and the spread is a field goal which means unless the colts get another failed 4th and 18 hit to the head penalty they have to win outright to cover the spread, am i right? and unless your 1 of those "i will fade the public" folks the only play is Pats -3, also remember last years game , correct me if im wrong but did Bill go for it on 4th down because he did not trust his defense, the way they are playing now you think he will trust them? you bet your ass he does, not only that but i think this is about revenge, i think the Patriots defense torture Jacob Tammy and co, they will double team Wayne, Garcon is inconsistent plus they will contain there running game. 

    I see a 14+ points win but before i go if my above comments have not convinced you can you picture this on sunday night espn sportscentre "Tom Brady was handed his first home loss in 25 games as the Colts beat the Pats...." Trust me ive been there, in the NFL never bet against a guy or team going for a record/milestone especially when they are so close, just like last year the 2nd meeting between the Pack/Vikes i said to myself Favre will not sweep his old club and beat them at Lambeau, there is no way...guess what happened, i had to suffer watching his win on sportscentre the rest of the week. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2010 - 12:06 AM ET #8

      Manning usually makes a game of it against the Pats. Don't see anything different this time, with the exceptions of a very banged up Colts squad. I believe New England has somewhat of a letdown after their huge win on the road in Pittsburgh.

    INDY   +  3

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      Manning usually makes a game of it against the Pats. Don't see anything different this time, with the exceptions of a very banged up Colts squad. I believe New England has somewhat of a letdown after their huge win on the road in Pittsburgh.

    INDY   +  3

     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2010 - 12:12 AM ET #9

    PATS WILL BE TOO FOCUSED TO LOSE THIS GAME. COLTS HAVE ISSUES AT O LINE AND THEY CANT RUN THE BALL. AS GOOD AT MANNING IS, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER QB WOULD, HE BECOMES TOO ERRATIC WHEN HE HAS TO THROW TOO MANY PASSES. THIS IS TOO EASY PATS -3

     

     

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    PATS WILL BE TOO FOCUSED TO LOSE THIS GAME. COLTS HAVE ISSUES AT O LINE AND THEY CANT RUN THE BALL. AS GOOD AT MANNING IS, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER QB WOULD, HE BECOMES TOO ERRATIC WHEN HE HAS TO THROW TOO MANY PASSES. THIS IS TOO EASY PATS -3

     

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2010 - 12:29 AM ET #10

    ANYONE WHOS BEEN WATCHING BOTH OF THESE TEAMS PLAY CANT LOGICALLY TAKE THE COLTS.  FORGET THE 25 STRAIGHT REGULAR SEASON HOME WINS BY BRADY.  IF THAT VICTORY AGAINST THE STEELERS ON THE ROAD DIDNT IMPRESS YOU, THEN NOTHING WILL.  THEIR LETDOWN WAS AGAINST CLEVELAND AND THEY COMMITTED CARELESS TURNOVERS THAT WONT HAPPEN THIS WEEK. THE PATRIOTS ARE IN CONTROL OF THE AFC RIGHT NOW AND THE DEFENSE LOOKED SCARY GOOD AGAINST THE STEELERS.  BRADY GETS FIRED UP FOR GAMES LIKE THIS. THEY ARE THE BETTER TEAM, AND THEY ARE AT HOME AND THEY WILL WIN.  IF YOU TAKE THE COLTS U MUST EITHER BE CRAZY OR LACK ANY FOOTBALL KNOWLEDGE

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    ANYONE WHOS BEEN WATCHING BOTH OF THESE TEAMS PLAY CANT LOGICALLY TAKE THE COLTS.  FORGET THE 25 STRAIGHT REGULAR SEASON HOME WINS BY BRADY.  IF THAT VICTORY AGAINST THE STEELERS ON THE ROAD DIDNT IMPRESS YOU, THEN NOTHING WILL.  THEIR LETDOWN WAS AGAINST CLEVELAND AND THEY COMMITTED CARELESS TURNOVERS THAT WONT HAPPEN THIS WEEK. THE PATRIOTS ARE IN CONTROL OF THE AFC RIGHT NOW AND THE DEFENSE LOOKED SCARY GOOD AGAINST THE STEELERS.  BRADY GETS FIRED UP FOR GAMES LIKE THIS. THEY ARE THE BETTER TEAM, AND THEY ARE AT HOME AND THEY WILL WIN.  IF YOU TAKE THE COLTS U MUST EITHER BE CRAZY OR LACK ANY FOOTBALL KNOWLEDGE

     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2010 - 1:08 AM ET #11

    this game is going under 50. so far 3 games poster over 50 went over twice, chargers texans because chargers special teams 29-23 by two points, and texans jax 31-24 with that last second hail marry, the colts texans game went under the 50 mark. i dont see manning putting up more than 3 touchdowns with his injured receiving core, running back out, mr. belichick knows how to play him, brady will eat up the clock with those short passes all day 20-13 patriots 
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    this game is going under 50. so far 3 games poster over 50 went over twice, chargers texans because chargers special teams 29-23 by two points, and texans jax 31-24 with that last second hail marry, the colts texans game went under the 50 mark. i dont see manning putting up more than 3 touchdowns with his injured receiving core, running back out, mr. belichick knows how to play him, brady will eat up the clock with those short passes all day 20-13 patriots 
     
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    First off, the Colts never get blown out.  They rarely get beat by more than 3.  That's a huge number to give them.  

    Patriots are very one-dimensional.  So are the Colts.  Patriots can't run the ball, but they can spread it out and dink and dunk all day.  Colts defense is specifically built to defend the pass.  They'll give up yards, but prevent big plays and tighten up in the red zone.  If there is a defense to stop the Brady-attack, it's the Colts.  

    New England's pass defense is doodoo.  They aren't great against the run either.  Manning should go out and carve holes in the NE secondary.  New England this year is the kind of team to cause problems for the Jets and Steelers of the world, but the Colts and Chargers have what it takes to expose them.  
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    First off, the Colts never get blown out.  They rarely get beat by more than 3.  That's a huge number to give them.  

    Patriots are very one-dimensional.  So are the Colts.  Patriots can't run the ball, but they can spread it out and dink and dunk all day.  Colts defense is specifically built to defend the pass.  They'll give up yards, but prevent big plays and tighten up in the red zone.  If there is a defense to stop the Brady-attack, it's the Colts.  

    New England's pass defense is doodoo.  They aren't great against the run either.  Manning should go out and carve holes in the NE secondary.  New England this year is the kind of team to cause problems for the Jets and Steelers of the world, but the Colts and Chargers have what it takes to expose them.  
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by maddencutter:


    First off, the Colts never get blown out.  They rarely get beat by more than 3.  That's a huge number to give them.  

    Patriots are very one-dimensional.  So are the Colts.  Patriots can't run the ball, but they can spread it out and dink and dunk all day.  Colts defense is specifically built to defend the pass.  They'll give up yards, but prevent big plays and tighten up in the red zone.  If there is a defense to stop the Brady-attack, it's the Colts.  

    New England's pass defense is doodoo.  They aren't great against the run either.  Manning should go out and carve holes in the NE secondary.  New England this year is the kind of team to cause problems for the Jets and Steelers of the world, but the Colts and Chargers have what it takes to expose them.  

    First off, the Patriots can run the ball, they may not have Chris Johnson or Adrian Peterson numbers but if you actually watch there games they can close out games via the running game, quick screen pass plays, If im correct they almost had 100 yards rushing against the Steelers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maddencutter:


    First off, the Colts never get blown out.  They rarely get beat by more than 3.  That's a huge number to give them.  

    Patriots are very one-dimensional.  So are the Colts.  Patriots can't run the ball, but they can spread it out and dink and dunk all day.  Colts defense is specifically built to defend the pass.  They'll give up yards, but prevent big plays and tighten up in the red zone.  If there is a defense to stop the Brady-attack, it's the Colts.  

    New England's pass defense is doodoo.  They aren't great against the run either.  Manning should go out and carve holes in the NE secondary.  New England this year is the kind of team to cause problems for the Jets and Steelers of the world, but the Colts and Chargers have what it takes to expose them.  

    First off, the Patriots can run the ball, they may not have Chris Johnson or Adrian Peterson numbers but if you actually watch there games they can close out games via the running game, quick screen pass plays, If im correct they almost had 100 yards rushing against the Steelers.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2010 - 9:40 PM ET #14

    oh what a fun situation here N.E is on the road to glory all over again Manning hates this team but thats jus too bad Indi 20 N.E 24
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    oh what a fun situation here N.E is on the road to glory all over again Manning hates this team but thats jus too bad Indi 20 N.E 24
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2010 - 8:23 AM ET #15

    Indy +4 (-115) The line has been brought to a level that makes me comfortable backing Manning and the Colts. I don't see 'em losing by more that a FG... that is IF they lose the game.
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    Indy +4 (-115) The line has been brought to a level that makes me comfortable backing Manning and the Colts. I don't see 'em losing by more that a FG... that is IF they lose the game.
     
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    Skub, you have every reason to take the points based on the last 4 and 6 of the last 10 being decided by 4 points or less. BUT observing both these teams all season long, im convinced that the Patriots are playing at a much higher level than the Colts for a majority of this season. The Colts running game has been increasingly worse each week. And if Addai is out, that is an even greater cause for concern for this offense.  Manning is single handedly carrying this team on his back, which is a true testament to how great he is. Despite getting Collie back, Manning has been lacking chemistry with his offense the last few weeks, due largely in part of their inability to run the ball.  Defensively, the Colts are much better suited to stop the pass than the run. The problem however, is if the Pats can gain anything on the ground, that will create immediate confusion for this fast, but over-aggresive secondary.

    For the Pats, Their defense is not pretty, especially if you look at their stats.  They are young and inexperienced but just like in their superbowls past, they have uncanny ability to force timely turnovers and make huge red zone stops. They are extremely opportunistic, as they capitalize off momentum and turnovers better than almost any team. We all know what Brady can do and with Mankins back and looking as good as ever, this team will run the ball down Indy's throats!  Last week was a turning point in their season, the Pats are rejuvenated, focused and ready to go! I see a comfortable double digit win here. Lay the points, Trust me

     

     

     

     

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    Skub, you have every reason to take the points based on the last 4 and 6 of the last 10 being decided by 4 points or less. BUT observing both these teams all season long, im convinced that the Patriots are playing at a much higher level than the Colts for a majority of this season. The Colts running game has been increasingly worse each week. And if Addai is out, that is an even greater cause for concern for this offense.  Manning is single handedly carrying this team on his back, which is a true testament to how great he is. Despite getting Collie back, Manning has been lacking chemistry with his offense the last few weeks, due largely in part of their inability to run the ball.  Defensively, the Colts are much better suited to stop the pass than the run. The problem however, is if the Pats can gain anything on the ground, that will create immediate confusion for this fast, but over-aggresive secondary.

    For the Pats, Their defense is not pretty, especially if you look at their stats.  They are young and inexperienced but just like in their superbowls past, they have uncanny ability to force timely turnovers and make huge red zone stops. They are extremely opportunistic, as they capitalize off momentum and turnovers better than almost any team. We all know what Brady can do and with Mankins back and looking as good as ever, this team will run the ball down Indy's throats!  Last week was a turning point in their season, the Pats are rejuvenated, focused and ready to go! I see a comfortable double digit win here. Lay the points, Trust me

     

     

     

     

     
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    NE -3 (1units) - The Pats should win, but with Manning owning New England, you just never know.  I'm still gambling Brady will stay ahead of the Manning offense.  Score: Colts  21-Patriots 35.
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    NE -3 (1units) - The Pats should win, but with Manning owning New England, you just never know.  I'm still gambling Brady will stay ahead of the Manning offense.  Score: Colts  21-Patriots 35.
     
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    OVER 49
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    OVER 49
     
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    this pat game due to brady got his line offence the way he wanted. he wasn't even touch  last week against one of the best defense team in the league.
    The Colts are 0-9 OU (-9.9 ppg) since September 13, 1992 after their opponent played the Steelers. very funny state
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    this pat game due to brady got his line offence the way he wanted. he wasn't even touch  last week against one of the best defense team in the league.
    The Colts are 0-9 OU (-9.9 ppg) since September 13, 1992 after their opponent played the Steelers. very funny state
     
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    2 words: PEYTON MANNING
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    2 words: PEYTON MANNING
     
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2010 - 8:13 AM ET #23

    can go either way , I like the pats by a hair , but one turnover changes the game. home game for pats too , in the cold vs a dome.

    Under 50 , they will be some defense in the first half , and scoring in the second

    27 - 21 you pick the team , ill take the Under.

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    can go either way , I like the pats by a hair , but one turnover changes the game. home game for pats too , in the cold vs a dome.

    Under 50 , they will be some defense in the first half , and scoring in the second

    27 - 21 you pick the team , ill take the Under.

     
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    I DONT THINK ANYONE HERE LISTENS TO ANYTHING I WRITE, DONT TAKE THE COLTS!!!!!!!!!
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    I DONT THINK ANYONE HERE LISTENS TO ANYTHING I WRITE, DONT TAKE THE COLTS!!!!!!!!!
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by maddencutter:


    First off, the Colts never get blown out.  They rarely get beat by more than 3.  That's a huge number to give them.  

    Patriots are very one-dimensional.  So are the Colts.  Patriots can't run the ball, but they can spread it out and dink and dunk all day.  Colts defense is specifically built to defend the pass.  They'll give up yards, but prevent big plays and tighten up in the red zone.  If there is a defense to stop the Brady-attack, it's the Colts.  

    New England's pass defense is doodoo.  They aren't great against the run either.  Manning should go out and carve holes in the NE secondary.  New England this year is the kind of team to cause problems for the Jets and Steelers of the world, but the Colts and Chargers have what it takes to expose them.  

    Pats have 2nd worse pass defense !  Manning if he has time will carve their secondary up IMO.  Pats have their mojo back however !  Tough game to call here, could go either way IMO. 

    COLTS +4     Letdown spot here for the Patriots !   

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddencutter:


    First off, the Colts never get blown out.  They rarely get beat by more than 3.  That's a huge number to give them.  

    Patriots are very one-dimensional.  So are the Colts.  Patriots can't run the ball, but they can spread it out and dink and dunk all day.  Colts defense is specifically built to defend the pass.  They'll give up yards, but prevent big plays and tighten up in the red zone.  If there is a defense to stop the Brady-attack, it's the Colts.  

    New England's pass defense is doodoo.  They aren't great against the run either.  Manning should go out and carve holes in the NE secondary.  New England this year is the kind of team to cause problems for the Jets and Steelers of the world, but the Colts and Chargers have what it takes to expose them.  

    Pats have 2nd worse pass defense !  Manning if he has time will carve their secondary up IMO.  Pats have their mojo back however !  Tough game to call here, could go either way IMO. 

    COLTS +4     Letdown spot here for the Patriots !   

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