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    Indianapolis at Jacksonville (12/17/2009)

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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2009 - 12:39 PM ET #51

    Quote Originally Posted by nhoveem:

    totally with you my friend...  may follow with phancard and go colts 1/2 and jax 2half and game here...  line reminds me too much like that MNF game last week.. if it looks too good to be true..  probably is.....  still looking @ it...  but that the early feel here...

     good luck my friend

    These 2 teams play each other twice every season and always play each other tough. Earlier this season in Indy with healthier players for both teams the final score was 12-14 with less on the line. This one has a team trying to go undefeated while the other trying to keep it's playoff hopes alive.

    Jax has a terrible pass defense as they made my Dolphins Chad Henne almost look like Marino with Henne at one point throwing for 17 straight completions. Jax best DB Mathis was out for that game and is still listed as probable for this one. They will need to really step up their game cause if they don't Manning will shred this horrible pass defense.

    MJD will be key in this game on offense for Jax. If the Colts front seven cannot stop MJD then Jax will be able to keep this one very close. The ground game will eat up a lot of the clock which could leave Manning on the sidelines for a while....but as my Dolphins proved on MNF against the Colts Peyton can burn you with quick scores even if the opposing team controlled the time of possession the entire game.

    I'm actually leaning on Jax here to take this one SU....a lot of people would probably think I'm smoking crack for thinking that but it's how I feel.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhoveem:

    totally with you my friend...  may follow with phancard and go colts 1/2 and jax 2half and game here...  line reminds me too much like that MNF game last week.. if it looks too good to be true..  probably is.....  still looking @ it...  but that the early feel here...

     good luck my friend

    These 2 teams play each other twice every season and always play each other tough. Earlier this season in Indy with healthier players for both teams the final score was 12-14 with less on the line. This one has a team trying to go undefeated while the other trying to keep it's playoff hopes alive.

    Jax has a terrible pass defense as they made my Dolphins Chad Henne almost look like Marino with Henne at one point throwing for 17 straight completions. Jax best DB Mathis was out for that game and is still listed as probable for this one. They will need to really step up their game cause if they don't Manning will shred this horrible pass defense.

    MJD will be key in this game on offense for Jax. If the Colts front seven cannot stop MJD then Jax will be able to keep this one very close. The ground game will eat up a lot of the clock which could leave Manning on the sidelines for a while....but as my Dolphins proved on MNF against the Colts Peyton can burn you with quick scores even if the opposing team controlled the time of possession the entire game.

    I'm actually leaning on Jax here to take this one SU....a lot of people would probably think I'm smoking crack for thinking that but it's how I feel.

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2009 - 12:52 PM ET #52

    nope you are not crazy. after indy came back to beat houston, i looked at their schedule and this game stood out as the game most likely that indy gets their first lost. and what do you know, the oddsmakers agree. jags ml for me.
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    nope you are not crazy. after indy came back to beat houston, i looked at their schedule and this game stood out as the game most likely that indy gets their first lost. and what do you know, the oddsmakers agree. jags ml for me.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2009 - 1:14 PM ET #53

    wth is going on here? Can it be upset heaven tonight? This line is soooo tricky and a trap. Best play so far is the under for tonight.. leaning towards jags for a small play.
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    wth is going on here? Can it be upset heaven tonight? This line is soooo tricky and a trap. Best play so far is the under for tonight.. leaning towards jags for a small play.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2009 - 1:21 PM ET #54

    Under 43.5
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2009 - 1:24 PM ET #55

    Taking COLTS -3 & under 43

     

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    Taking COLTS -3 & under 43

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2009 - 2:13 PM ET #56

    Even with all the late season factors....

    Indy -3

    I think they'll win by more like 10

    Hit the under for the parlay....


    Take it to the BANK
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    Even with all the late season factors....

    Indy -3

    I think they'll win by more like 10

    Hit the under for the parlay....


    Take it to the BANK
     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2009 - 2:42 PM ET #57

    THURSDAY NIGHT SPECIAL UNDER like MONDAY SPECIAL UNDER!! JUST THROW IT IN THE BAG!

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    THURSDAY NIGHT SPECIAL UNDER like MONDAY SPECIAL UNDER!! JUST THROW IT IN THE BAG!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2009 - 2:57 PM ET #58

    I like how you all are frustrated with the line. I like the Colts, but with 3 points on these two teams. It hope jags will cover it, expect the OVER and expect Manning to be killer out there with a lot of passing.
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    I like how you all are frustrated with the line. I like the Colts, but with 3 points on these two teams. It hope jags will cover it, expect the OVER and expect Manning to be killer out there with a lot of passing.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2009 - 2:58 PM ET #59

    don't see peyton playing the hole game, also don't think he is willing to loose this game. their for, he will run the score up in first halve and jag's trying to ketch up in the second halve.  over 43
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    don't see peyton playing the hole game, also don't think he is willing to loose this game. their for, he will run the score up in first halve and jag's trying to ketch up in the second halve.  over 43
     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2009 - 3:10 PM ET #60

    Who knows only concern is siding with the heavy public wager but every so often they hand out a gimme to keep Joe 6Pack interested so he'll come back to lose his ass. Christmas comes early for Joe tonight! Don't over-think this 1 fellas with the subliminal shit going on about who's playing who's resting last time I checked most NFL keep the undefeated streaks going as long as they can -- COLTS  -3
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    Who knows only concern is siding with the heavy public wager but every so often they hand out a gimme to keep Joe 6Pack interested so he'll come back to lose his ass. Christmas comes early for Joe tonight! Don't over-think this 1 fellas with the subliminal shit going on about who's playing who's resting last time I checked most NFL keep the undefeated streaks going as long as they can -- COLTS  -3
     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2009 - 3:26 PM ET #61

    This is a trap.....herd mentality roars INDY -3 (books will clean-up)

    DID YOU BET CARDINALS ON MONDAY?

    DID YOU BET STEELERS LAST WEEK?

    I HAD BROWNS & SF straight up

    same scenario tonight

    CAT POWER

     

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    This is a trap.....herd mentality roars INDY -3 (books will clean-up)

    DID YOU BET CARDINALS ON MONDAY?

    DID YOU BET STEELERS LAST WEEK?

    I HAD BROWNS & SF straight up

    same scenario tonight

    CAT POWER

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2009 - 4:03 PM ET #62

    23-20 J Js in OT

     

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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2009 - 4:06 PM ET #63

    Quote Originally Posted by frogs:

    This is a trap.....herd mentality roars INDY -3 (books will clean-up)

    DID YOU BET CARDINALS ON MONDAY?

    DID YOU BET STEELERS LAST WEEK?

    I HAD BROWNS & SF straight up

    same scenario tonight

    CAT POWER

     



    Yes i had both dogs as well, But sir you are forgetting one big factor here.  its called the law of probability. keep flipping a quarter and eventually it will land on heads.  Meaning, sure the dogs covered and won some str8 up, but this to me, is a must win for the colts.  BIg daddy.. usually i agree with you, but im siding with the colts tonight.  Too much fire power.. air attack against a 26th overall D and the COLTS GOING FOR PERFECTION..

    COLTS 28
    CATS  14

    PUT THAT IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT
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    Quote Originally Posted by frogs:

    This is a trap.....herd mentality roars INDY -3 (books will clean-up)

    DID YOU BET CARDINALS ON MONDAY?

    DID YOU BET STEELERS LAST WEEK?

    I HAD BROWNS & SF straight up

    same scenario tonight

    CAT POWER

     



    Yes i had both dogs as well, But sir you are forgetting one big factor here.  its called the law of probability. keep flipping a quarter and eventually it will land on heads.  Meaning, sure the dogs covered and won some str8 up, but this to me, is a must win for the colts.  BIg daddy.. usually i agree with you, but im siding with the colts tonight.  Too much fire power.. air attack against a 26th overall D and the COLTS GOING FOR PERFECTION..

    COLTS 28
    CATS  14

    PUT THAT IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT
     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2009 - 4:12 PM ET #64

    Colts won't try to blow them out while Jac will go all out, the colts will run the ball a lot, jacksonville will pass a lot.

    Jac+3, they will find a way to cover, colts just want to win.

     

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    Colts won't try to blow them out while Jac will go all out, the colts will run the ball a lot, jacksonville will pass a lot.

    Jac+3, they will find a way to cover, colts just want to win.

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2009 - 4:14 PM ET #65

    If you think the colts are going to be passing as usual, think again, one nice sack and you jepordize your playoffs.

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    If you think the colts are going to be passing as usual, think again, one nice sack and you jepordize your playoffs.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2009 - 4:14 PM ET #66

    Just wondering how many reps Painter took in practice this week?
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2009 - 4:19 PM ET #67

     Jagz +3
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2009 - 4:20 PM ET #68

    We're not even through Week 14 yet and this is a topic of conversation? This discussion is like Christmas season: it starts earlier every year. Whatever you think of resting starters in the final weeks of the year, I think it's safe to say that we can all agree that Week 15 is a bit too early.

    The Colts won't host a playoff game until Jan. 16, at the earliest. That's five weeks away. To put that in perspective, Indy had six weeks from the start of training camp until its first regular-season game. Five weeks is a long time, way too long to be resting guys before a month-long playoff push.

    so.. INDY -3

     ES

     

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    We're not even through Week 14 yet and this is a topic of conversation? This discussion is like Christmas season: it starts earlier every year. Whatever you think of resting starters in the final weeks of the year, I think it's safe to say that we can all agree that Week 15 is a bit too early.

    The Colts won't host a playoff game until Jan. 16, at the earliest. That's five weeks away. To put that in perspective, Indy had six weeks from the start of training camp until its first regular-season game. Five weeks is a long time, way too long to be resting guys before a month-long playoff push.

    so.. INDY -3

     ES

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2009 - 4:32 PM ET #69

    Posted record 11-4

    Peyton Manning has won 114 games in the decade. With three games to go (at Jacksnville, home to NY Jets and Buffalo), I do not think he has any desire to slow down at this point of the season because it's too early. If the Colts start to worry about health now, they will develop some bad habits that could carry through to the playoffs. The Colts need not worry about anything offensively but they must do a good job on Maurice Jones-Drew. Last week, the Dolphins held him to 83 yards on 20 carries. If the Colts can do that, they should be able to win easy. Considering Jones-Drew has failed to hit 100 yards in the last four games, the Colts have a good shot to slow him down. This is it for Jacksonville. At 7-6, they need three straight wins to reach 10 for the season. Colts cover big

    Indy -3

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    Posted record 11-4

    Peyton Manning has won 114 games in the decade. With three games to go (at Jacksnville, home to NY Jets and Buffalo), I do not think he has any desire to slow down at this point of the season because it's too early. If the Colts start to worry about health now, they will develop some bad habits that could carry through to the playoffs. The Colts need not worry about anything offensively but they must do a good job on Maurice Jones-Drew. Last week, the Dolphins held him to 83 yards on 20 carries. If the Colts can do that, they should be able to win easy. Considering Jones-Drew has failed to hit 100 yards in the last four games, the Colts have a good shot to slow him down. This is it for Jacksonville. At 7-6, they need three straight wins to reach 10 for the season. Colts cover big

    Indy -3

     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2009 - 4:38 PM ET #70

    Do you like to lose your money? Go ahead and bet against Peyton Manning in Prim Time then.
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2009 - 4:46 PM ET #71

    pretty much, this is a coin toss.. Manning will not be throwing as much passes as he normally does just because one sack might = injury = no championship. Same goes for a banged up Adai, mathis and freeney. Expect Manning and team to take the lead early in the first half.. and then jump off the second half and start the back-ups during the end of the 3rd and beginning of the 4th quarter only if the lead is say 24-3. If it is a close game.. they will play throughout the whole game.

    Under whole game.. Rivarly matchups are usually always under.. indy under first half.. 2nd half.. up in the air.
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    pretty much, this is a coin toss.. Manning will not be throwing as much passes as he normally does just because one sack might = injury = no championship. Same goes for a banged up Adai, mathis and freeney. Expect Manning and team to take the lead early in the first half.. and then jump off the second half and start the back-ups during the end of the 3rd and beginning of the 4th quarter only if the lead is say 24-3. If it is a close game.. they will play throughout the whole game.

    Under whole game.. Rivarly matchups are usually always under.. indy under first half.. 2nd half.. up in the air.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2009 - 4:51 PM ET #72

    Quote Originally Posted by bluephinn:

    Indy heads into this matchup with a different mindset than any other outing this year.Sure they would love to go undefeated however that is not their aim.Although they have been bent many times this year they are yet to be broken...It seems a ground swell of support seems to be building towards an unbeatable Colts outfit..I beg to differ..Firstly,with so many questionables on the injury front one would have to be fading the Jags to be laying the chalk so easily and early.. Secondly..Indy has had to come from behind on many occasions,plus they have almost squandered leads they should of closed out easily,thus resting their offence..not the case .Finally,Peyton is only human..eg..10  interceptions over the past 6 games which shows something is about to give....
    Flip-side...Jags still have a chance of making the playoffs, that is irrespective of what you and I think..Although they have been lethargic on the offensive front lately,at home their defence always puts in..They will run and try keep the Indy offence off the field thus pushing Indy`s D all the way as most teams attempt..Difference being the situational spot, it spells nicely for a home win but because of the Peyton factor taking the points on offer....
    JAGS +3.5


    Nice work phinn.gl bro
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluephinn:

    Indy heads into this matchup with a different mindset than any other outing this year.Sure they would love to go undefeated however that is not their aim.Although they have been bent many times this year they are yet to be broken...It seems a ground swell of support seems to be building towards an unbeatable Colts outfit..I beg to differ..Firstly,with so many questionables on the injury front one would have to be fading the Jags to be laying the chalk so easily and early.. Secondly..Indy has had to come from behind on many occasions,plus they have almost squandered leads they should of closed out easily,thus resting their offence..not the case .Finally,Peyton is only human..eg..10  interceptions over the past 6 games which shows something is about to give....
    Flip-side...Jags still have a chance of making the playoffs, that is irrespective of what you and I think..Although they have been lethargic on the offensive front lately,at home their defence always puts in..They will run and try keep the Indy offence off the field thus pushing Indy`s D all the way as most teams attempt..Difference being the situational spot, it spells nicely for a home win but because of the Peyton factor taking the points on offer....
    JAGS +3.5


    Nice work phinn.gl bro
     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2009 - 5:19 PM ET #73

    In AFC South games,they are 2-0 at home,and they've outscored opponents 60-35.(Jags)

    Indy owns the NFL record with 22 consecutive regular-season victories.

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    In AFC South games,they are 2-0 at home,and they've outscored opponents 60-35.(Jags)

    Indy owns the NFL record with 22 consecutive regular-season victories.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2009 - 5:26 PM ET #74

    HOW IN THE HELL DOES ANYBODY FIND THE NUTS TO BET AGAINST WITHOUT A DOUBT THE BEST QB OF ALL TIME.  NOBODY AND I MEAN NOBODY READS DEFENCES LIKE PEYTON MANNING.  ITS ALMOST LIKE HE IS IN THE HEAD OF THE OPOSITIONS DEFENSIVE COACHES HEAD.  STICK WITH A WINNER UNTIL THEY LOSE.  PEYTON WILL GET THE COVER.   COLTS 24-20.
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    HOW IN THE HELL DOES ANYBODY FIND THE NUTS TO BET AGAINST WITHOUT A DOUBT THE BEST QB OF ALL TIME.  NOBODY AND I MEAN NOBODY READS DEFENCES LIKE PEYTON MANNING.  ITS ALMOST LIKE HE IS IN THE HEAD OF THE OPOSITIONS DEFENSIVE COACHES HEAD.  STICK WITH A WINNER UNTIL THEY LOSE.  PEYTON WILL GET THE COVER.   COLTS 24-20.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by chad2322:



    Yes i had both dogs as well, But sir you are forgetting one big factor here.  its called the law of probability. keep flipping a quarter and eventually it will land on heads.  Meaning, sure the dogs covered and won some str8 up, but this to me, is a must win for the colts.  BIg daddy.. usually i agree with you, but im siding with the colts tonight.  Too much fire power.. air attack against a 26th overall D and the COLTS GOING FOR PERFECTION..

    COLTS 28
    CATS  14

    PUT THAT IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT

     nah! don't worry about it bro cause I'm not sure myself....just was stating that if I were to touch this game I would probably take the Jags. You say it's a must win for the Colts true... to go undefeated but the Jags needs this to keep playoff hopes alive.

    No matter how good or bad a team is whenever it's a division game it's played tight.....

    Browns at home beat the Steelers SU

    My Dolphins at home beat the Pats SU 

    Buffalo at home beat my Dolphins SU a few weeks back

    The undefeated Saints squeeked by the Falcons last week. (without Matt Ryan & Turner)

    I can go on and on about good vs bad teams in division games but I don't want to bore anyone...

    There are many more games to play esp with the bowl games coming up so i'm glad I don't have to cap this one if I don't have to...I choose not to play.

    Good luck on your pick

    Happy Holidays to you and the family

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    Quote Originally Posted by chad2322:



    Yes i had both dogs as well, But sir you are forgetting one big factor here.  its called the law of probability. keep flipping a quarter and eventually it will land on heads.  Meaning, sure the dogs covered and won some str8 up, but this to me, is a must win for the colts.  BIg daddy.. usually i agree with you, but im siding with the colts tonight.  Too much fire power.. air attack against a 26th overall D and the COLTS GOING FOR PERFECTION..

    COLTS 28
    CATS  14

    PUT THAT IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT

     nah! don't worry about it bro cause I'm not sure myself....just was stating that if I were to touch this game I would probably take the Jags. You say it's a must win for the Colts true... to go undefeated but the Jags needs this to keep playoff hopes alive.

    No matter how good or bad a team is whenever it's a division game it's played tight.....

    Browns at home beat the Steelers SU

    My Dolphins at home beat the Pats SU 

    Buffalo at home beat my Dolphins SU a few weeks back

    The undefeated Saints squeeked by the Falcons last week. (without Matt Ryan & Turner)

    I can go on and on about good vs bad teams in division games but I don't want to bore anyone...

    There are many more games to play esp with the bowl games coming up so i'm glad I don't have to cap this one if I don't have to...I choose not to play.

    Good luck on your pick

    Happy Holidays to you and the family

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