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    Indianapolis at Arizona (09/27/2009)

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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2009 - 1:53 AM ET #1

    Away:  Indianapolis [1-1 ATS]
    Home:  Arizona [1-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 8:20 PM
    Stadium: University of Phoenix Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
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    Team Leaders:

    Indianapolis:
    Passing: Peyton Manning (604)
    Rushing: Joseph Addai (74)
    Receiving: Dallas Clark (222)

    Arizona:
    Passing: Kurt Warner (531)
    Rushing: Timothy Hightower (87)
    Receiving: Timothy Hightower (133)

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    Away:  Indianapolis [1-1 ATS]
    Home:  Arizona [1-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 8:20 PM
    Stadium: University of Phoenix Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
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    Team Leaders:

    Indianapolis:
    Passing: Peyton Manning (604)
    Rushing: Joseph Addai (74)
    Receiving: Dallas Clark (222)

    Arizona:
    Passing: Kurt Warner (531)
    Rushing: Timothy Hightower (87)
    Receiving: Timothy Hightower (133)

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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2009 - 3:31 PM ET #2

    Gotta go Arizona here,
     
    Colts defense doesnt match up very well with the colts secondary.  Although Warner will have some heat from the D-line, I expect the Colts defense to be awfully tired to go on a short week along with having to be on the field last night for more than 45 minutes!!!
     
    Arizona will be giving Indy quite a few points by game time... I expect Arizona large here. 
     
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    ARI   34
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    Gotta go Arizona here,
     
    Colts defense doesnt match up very well with the colts secondary.  Although Warner will have some heat from the D-line, I expect the Colts defense to be awfully tired to go on a short week along with having to be on the field last night for more than 45 minutes!!!
     
    Arizona will be giving Indy quite a few points by game time... I expect Arizona large here. 
     
    IND   20
    ARI   34
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2009 - 9:00 PM ET #3

    Indys Defense can't stop anyone on 3rd down. I'll take the Cards -1
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    Indys Defense can't stop anyone on 3rd down. I'll take the Cards -1
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2009 - 10:31 PM ET #4

    Cards Cover Wow
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    Cards Cover Wow
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2009 - 11:38 PM ET #5

    this line opened as cardinals +2.  i saw that posted on sites while the MNF game was still going on.  it's only tuesday and the line has swung the opposite direction.  the cards are now favored by 1-2 points.  i'm not saying this line moved because of sharp money or anything, but it is something to keep an eye on.  did vegas adjust the line after the colts performance on monday night?
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    this line opened as cardinals +2.  i saw that posted on sites while the MNF game was still going on.  it's only tuesday and the line has swung the opposite direction.  the cards are now favored by 1-2 points.  i'm not saying this line moved because of sharp money or anything, but it is something to keep an eye on.  did vegas adjust the line after the colts performance on monday night?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2009 - 5:29 PM ET #6

    The way the Dolphin receivers were open Monday night Indy doesn't stand a chance with Boldin and Fitz. Not to mention Adrian Wilson is  gonna knock Clark's head off when he comes across that middle!
     
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    The way the Dolphin receivers were open Monday night Indy doesn't stand a chance with Boldin and Fitz. Not to mention Adrian Wilson is  gonna knock Clark's head off when he comes across that middle!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2009 - 8:20 PM ET #7

    Vegas simply missed badly on the spread and got pounded by the sharps. I'm looking at a large play on the Cards.
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    Vegas simply missed badly on the spread and got pounded by the sharps. I'm looking at a large play on the Cards.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2009 - 11:23 PM ET #8

    s are crazy manning will kill it.. you are very wrong if you think manning and the colts are anything like the jags this is a colts all the way manning is fired up
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    s are crazy manning will kill it.. you are very wrong if you think manning and the colts are anything like the jags this is a colts all the way manning is fired up
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2009 - 12:12 AM ET #9

      Call me crazy, but I see a Card letdown coming into this game. In fact my records indicated over 70 % of the time LY in situations similar to this contest, that's what happened! Since, the colts have no defense, I see this as another Manning "shoot out under the lights"!! In fact, I'm calling the Sharps out on this one!!
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      Call me crazy, but I see a Card letdown coming into this game. In fact my records indicated over 70 % of the time LY in situations similar to this contest, that's what happened! Since, the colts have no defense, I see this as another Manning "shoot out under the lights"!! In fact, I'm calling the Sharps out on this one!!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2009 - 11:21 AM ET #10

    lol you do what you have to do but manning wants to prove he is the best against a superbowl runnerup manning all the way for me
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    lol you do what you have to do but manning wants to prove he is the best against a superbowl runnerup manning all the way for me
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2009 - 8:30 PM ET #11

    i dont care any side, this will go over early on the third quarter
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    i dont care any side, this will go over early on the third quarter
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2009 - 8:35 PM ET #12

    how can someone not care for the colts :P
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    how can someone not care for the colts :P
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2009 - 12:00 AM ET #13

    well , the thing is that i care more about my money


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    well , the thing is that i care more about my money


     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2009 - 3:44 AM ET #14

    ok, so i really wanted to back the -1, but missed that train...


    thinking Cards ML -145
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    ok, so i really wanted to back the -1, but missed that train...


    thinking Cards ML -145
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2009 - 4:07 AM ET #15

    Indy barely won both of its games. Their Pass D did great, but it was against the run happy Dolphins and lowly Jags. Meanwhile Arizona just ripped the jags.

    Warner and such will put up big numbers aginst this Indy pass D, and we saw what Miami did on the ground. Arizona will be able to run when need be.

    What us ARI backers need is the D to come alive. The secondary is phenomenal and should slow down the Indy passing attack enough to allow ARI pull out a win.These guys are studs at every spot, Rodgers-Cromartie, Bryant McFadden (and his ring), Adrian Wilson, Antrel Rolle (converted corner - under Adrian Wilson's guidance)

    This reminds me of that nasty secondary's in Baltimore in years past. So, all we really need to pull for is the front seven to have a great game.



    So....... ML -145 isn't lookin' to shabby if we missed the -1? Thnkn safe bet either way... Definiteley like ML if it heads for the over !!



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    Indy barely won both of its games. Their Pass D did great, but it was against the run happy Dolphins and lowly Jags. Meanwhile Arizona just ripped the jags.

    Warner and such will put up big numbers aginst this Indy pass D, and we saw what Miami did on the ground. Arizona will be able to run when need be.

    What us ARI backers need is the D to come alive. The secondary is phenomenal and should slow down the Indy passing attack enough to allow ARI pull out a win.These guys are studs at every spot, Rodgers-Cromartie, Bryant McFadden (and his ring), Adrian Wilson, Antrel Rolle (converted corner - under Adrian Wilson's guidance)

    This reminds me of that nasty secondary's in Baltimore in years past. So, all we really need to pull for is the front seven to have a great game.



    So....... ML -145 isn't lookin' to shabby if we missed the -1? Thnkn safe bet either way... Definiteley like ML if it heads for the over !!



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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2009 - 10:39 AM ET #16

    lol ricardo..
    and dude 1618 why do you look at games that way?!? indi put low numbers and the birds did this.. things in the nfl don't work that way. indi is improving everytime they play and the only reason they put such low numbers is because they didn't have to score more, but if they have to score 40 points to win they will.. manning and the ball are bestfriends don't you know that and vegas wants your money and that is why when people look at games like you do they lose their money good luck 
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    lol ricardo..
    and dude 1618 why do you look at games that way?!? indi put low numbers and the birds did this.. things in the nfl don't work that way. indi is improving everytime they play and the only reason they put such low numbers is because they didn't have to score more, but if they have to score 40 points to win they will.. manning and the ball are bestfriends don't you know that and vegas wants your money and that is why when people look at games like you do they lose their money good luck 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2009 - 10:42 AM ET #17

    oh and you want another fact out of the last 6 times they played arizona won once. also indi is a good road team
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    oh and you want another fact out of the last 6 times they played arizona won once. also indi is a good road team
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2009 - 1:17 PM ET #18

    colts always play close games, maybe 20-21 score here and colts win.
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    colts always play close games, maybe 20-21 score here and colts win.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2009 - 4:06 AM ET #19

    This is a tough test for Indy.  A quick turnaround from the east coast - a couple days to practice - and on to the west coast in the desert.

    Payton Manning was unbelievable when he was on the field the other night so the facts that the Colts are giving up 176 yards on the ground a game and obviously allowed the Dolphins to dominate time of possession the other night won't matter as much.  We saw that.

    However . . . the Cardinals can score.

    A lot.

    And as mentioned, their defense has some play-makers on it.

    I'm takin' the NFC champs here and layin' the 2 and a hook.


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    This is a tough test for Indy.  A quick turnaround from the east coast - a couple days to practice - and on to the west coast in the desert.

    Payton Manning was unbelievable when he was on the field the other night so the facts that the Colts are giving up 176 yards on the ground a game and obviously allowed the Dolphins to dominate time of possession the other night won't matter as much.  We saw that.

    However . . . the Cardinals can score.

    A lot.

    And as mentioned, their defense has some play-makers on it.

    I'm takin' the NFC champs here and layin' the 2 and a hook.


     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2009 - 7:02 AM ET #20

    lol you will lose all your money this weekend angrytiger. it looks like you don't know your shit.. indi can't keep position??? are you out of your freken mind?!? if there is anyone that knows about timing then its manning, you must be crazy and a hardcore gambler
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    lol you will lose all your money this weekend angrytiger. it looks like you don't know your shit.. indi can't keep position??? are you out of your freken mind?!? if there is anyone that knows about timing then its manning, you must be crazy and a hardcore gambler
     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2009 - 9:17 AM ET #21

    COLTS EASY HERE! +3

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    COLTS EASY HERE! +3

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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2009 - 10:55 AM ET #22

    Colts +3
     
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    Colts +3
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2009 - 10:55 AM ET #23

    colts easy? I don't think so.   I agree with the first post about the colts defense being tired.  I think that the pass rush won't be up to par and watch the cards gash them with the draw
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    colts easy? I don't think so.   I agree with the first post about the colts defense being tired.  I think that the pass rush won't be up to par and watch the cards gash them with the draw
     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2009 - 12:23 PM ET #24

    Indianapolis Colts @ Arizona Cardinals

    We all know that the Indianapolis team has one of the finest QB of the league and a future inductee in the NFL Hall of Fame: Peyton Manning. Even when the Colts O is not performing as expected, you can always count on Manning to fix it, to find a solution that will win the game for the Indianapolis team. Indeed, Peyton Manning is QB of an enormous quality. Their rushing game this year has been very good actually, we all know that this team on the offensive end depends a lot of their passing game, but when it was needed, the ground offense has got the job done.

    The major question for this game doesn't lie on the Colts offense, but on the Indianapolis defense: how are they going to stop Boldin and Fitzgerald? Truth is, they can stop one of them, but never both when they are on the field at the same time. And if take to account that the Cards have a good third option to penetrate deep in the Colts territory, the Indy D will have serious troubles to stop the Arizona O.

    Arizona has a very good offense, with a superb QB, which has outstanding weapons for deep penetration at his disposal with the WRs of great quality, that can get things very difficult to any good defense on the NFL. If the Cardinals O is very strong and has been this season their best side, on the defensive end things have not gone well for Arizona and the defensive team can be thankful for having an Offense that has saved their rear end on the field in several occasions.

    For me, the Cardinals have here a good chance to win this game, first thanks to a Colts' Short Week, and second, the edge on the Offense goes to the Cards team, since they have more firepower on their offensive arsenal than the Colts. Both defenses will suffer a lot against their opponent's Offense and we will see a offensive power game show, with lots of touchdowns scored by both teams, a Big Time Shoot Out match and a home win for the Arizona Cardinals.

    Picks: Over 48 -110 (1,91) The Greek / -107 (1,935) Pinnacle;
    Arizona Cardinals -2,5 -110 (1,91) Diamond (Bodog, Sportbet, BetUS) / ARI -2,5 -114 (1,877) Pinnacle
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    Indianapolis Colts @ Arizona Cardinals

    We all know that the Indianapolis team has one of the finest QB of the league and a future inductee in the NFL Hall of Fame: Peyton Manning. Even when the Colts O is not performing as expected, you can always count on Manning to fix it, to find a solution that will win the game for the Indianapolis team. Indeed, Peyton Manning is QB of an enormous quality. Their rushing game this year has been very good actually, we all know that this team on the offensive end depends a lot of their passing game, but when it was needed, the ground offense has got the job done.

    The major question for this game doesn't lie on the Colts offense, but on the Indianapolis defense: how are they going to stop Boldin and Fitzgerald? Truth is, they can stop one of them, but never both when they are on the field at the same time. And if take to account that the Cards have a good third option to penetrate deep in the Colts territory, the Indy D will have serious troubles to stop the Arizona O.

    Arizona has a very good offense, with a superb QB, which has outstanding weapons for deep penetration at his disposal with the WRs of great quality, that can get things very difficult to any good defense on the NFL. If the Cardinals O is very strong and has been this season their best side, on the defensive end things have not gone well for Arizona and the defensive team can be thankful for having an Offense that has saved their rear end on the field in several occasions.

    For me, the Cardinals have here a good chance to win this game, first thanks to a Colts' Short Week, and second, the edge on the Offense goes to the Cards team, since they have more firepower on their offensive arsenal than the Colts. Both defenses will suffer a lot against their opponent's Offense and we will see a offensive power game show, with lots of touchdowns scored by both teams, a Big Time Shoot Out match and a home win for the Arizona Cardinals.

    Picks: Over 48 -110 (1,91) The Greek / -107 (1,935) Pinnacle;
    Arizona Cardinals -2,5 -110 (1,91) Diamond (Bodog, Sportbet, BetUS) / ARI -2,5 -114 (1,877) Pinnacle
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2009 - 3:56 PM ET #25

    well i went against peyton last week and that was definetely a mistake so...i def like the over here, but im really having trouble thinking that i should bet against the colts again here...either way im a degan so help lol

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    well i went against peyton last week and that was definetely a mistake so...i def like the over here, but im really having trouble thinking that i should bet against the colts again here...either way im a degan so help lol

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