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    Houston at Denver (09/23/2012)

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    Posted: Sep. 16, 2012 - 10:26 AM ET #1

    Away:  Houston [2-0 ATS]
    Home:  Denver [1-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 4:25 PM
    Stadium: Sports Authority Field at Mile High

    Recent Meetings:
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    Team Leaders:

    Houston:
    Passing: Matt Schaub (461)
    Rushing: Arian Foster (189)
    Receiving: Andre Johnson (140)

    Denver:
    Passing: Peyton Manning (494)
    Rushing: Willis McGahee (177)
    Receiving: Demaryius Thomas (188)

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    Away:  Houston [2-0 ATS]
    Home:  Denver [1-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 4:25 PM
    Stadium: Sports Authority Field at Mile High

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Houston:
    Passing: Matt Schaub (461)
    Rushing: Arian Foster (189)
    Receiving: Andre Johnson (140)

    Denver:
    Passing: Peyton Manning (494)
    Rushing: Willis McGahee (177)
    Receiving: Demaryius Thomas (188)

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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2012 - 4:36 PM ET #2

    I cant see why Houston is favored here. Home game for Denver coming off a loss on the road. I would have though Denver to be favored by 2 to 3 poiunts. I dont see Manning havinig another 3 int first quarter and to bounce back with a victory. Any thoughts on this game would be appreciated.
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    I cant see why Houston is favored here. Home game for Denver coming off a loss on the road. I would have though Denver to be favored by 2 to 3 poiunts. I dont see Manning havinig another 3 int first quarter and to bounce back with a victory. Any thoughts on this game would be appreciated.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2012 - 4:37 PM ET #3

    im 2-0 in my bronco capping this year. time to go 3-0. DENVER at home +2 all day. even with the turnovers against atlanta and spotting them 20 points the broncos still could have won that game. peyton wont throw 3 picks again and the denver run defense is much improved from last year which will force schaub to pass more than they want to and against champ and porter i like those odds. denver all day 4 unit play 
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    im 2-0 in my bronco capping this year. time to go 3-0. DENVER at home +2 all day. even with the turnovers against atlanta and spotting them 20 points the broncos still could have won that game. peyton wont throw 3 picks again and the denver run defense is much improved from last year which will force schaub to pass more than they want to and against champ and porter i like those odds. denver all day 4 unit play 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2012 - 11:51 PM ET #4

    I'm with you guys

    Broncos are one of my favorite plays this week, Manning knows how to beat the Texans, he's had a lot of practice doing that when he was with the Colts
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    I'm with you guys

    Broncos are one of my favorite plays this week, Manning knows how to beat the Texans, he's had a lot of practice doing that when he was with the Colts
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2012 - 1:21 AM ET #5

    Hou has a Texas size boner for Peyton too bad they get finessed on 
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    Hou has a Texas size boner for Peyton too bad they get finessed on 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2012 - 8:55 AM ET #6

    I am a Texans fan and I'm not touching the side, but I do like the under if it stays at 46.5. Kubiak loves the long drives and doesn't call as many big plays as he used to. If the Texans get a lead,
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    I am a Texans fan and I'm not touching the side, but I do like the under if it stays at 46.5. Kubiak loves the long drives and doesn't call as many big plays as he used to. If the Texans get a lead,
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2012 - 8:59 AM ET #7

    Sorry about that, my thumb hit submit.  If the Texans get a lead, Kubiak will try to kill the game, especially against Manning.  While Manning does own Houston, the defense is entirely new with a new coordinator and scheme.  While Denver can put up points, the Texans make you work for it, and rarely give up big plays.  I look for a 23-21 or 24-20 type game.
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    Sorry about that, my thumb hit submit.  If the Texans get a lead, Kubiak will try to kill the game, especially against Manning.  While Manning does own Houston, the defense is entirely new with a new coordinator and scheme.  While Denver can put up points, the Texans make you work for it, and rarely give up big plays.  I look for a 23-21 or 24-20 type game.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2012 - 6:12 PM ET #8

    DENVER  + 1

    Under 46.5

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    DENVER  + 1

    Under 46.5

     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2012 - 2:11 AM ET #9

    Over

    (YTD: 8-5-1)

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    Over

    (YTD: 8-5-1)

     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2012 - 4:47 AM ET #10

    Ah hello HOUSTON #1 DEFENSE in the NFL!!!!
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    Ah hello HOUSTON #1 DEFENSE in the NFL!!!!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2012 - 6:09 PM ET #11

    Will take Houston -1 better def, Foster/Tate combo will take time off clock and force Manning to throw, like the Texans CBs.  Even with home game Fox is a crappy coach

    Texans -1 (3-0)  Broncos (1-2) and Manning is my FFBL QB
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    Will take Houston -1 better def, Foster/Tate combo will take time off clock and force Manning to throw, like the Texans CBs.  Even with home game Fox is a crappy coach

    Texans -1 (3-0)  Broncos (1-2) and Manning is my FFBL QB
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2012 - 7:45 PM ET #12

    Houston has never started 3-0 and they have beat Miami who is 1-1 and Jacksonville 0-2.....So the #1 ranked defense is a little over rated in my eyers. Denver beat Pgh who is now 1-1 and lost to Atlanta who is 2-0.....Denver on a bounce back game at home. Good Luck everyone..!
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    Houston has never started 3-0 and they have beat Miami who is 1-1 and Jacksonville 0-2.....So the #1 ranked defense is a little over rated in my eyers. Denver beat Pgh who is now 1-1 and lost to Atlanta who is 2-0.....Denver on a bounce back game at home. Good Luck everyone..!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2012 - 9:54 PM ET #13

    C'mon guys, it's Peyton for crying out loud!!! You don't think he hasn't cleaned up every mistake from the last game?!?!?! Also,  doesn't he pretty much have Houston's number, I don't care what division he's in........

    Denver Peyton's - for the Medium-Well - - but not necessarily the Well-Done.........

    Broncos in the pick 'em

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    C'mon guys, it's Peyton for crying out loud!!! You don't think he hasn't cleaned up every mistake from the last game?!?!?! Also,  doesn't he pretty much have Houston's number, I don't care what division he's in........

    Denver Peyton's - for the Medium-Well - - but not necessarily the Well-Done.........

    Broncos in the pick 'em

     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2012 - 2:13 AM ET #14

    Still pissed about the ATL DEN game...especially since I lobbied so hard for my Broncos. I still feel I was on the right side, however, that one factor u can never predict(turnovers) killed me. Still almost won the game though! Time to move on...no big surprise here...DENVER ML. As long as DEN figures out how to stop Foster, they win fairly easily I think. They gotta figure out that 3rd down defense though...ranked 28th in that category.
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    Still pissed about the ATL DEN game...especially since I lobbied so hard for my Broncos. I still feel I was on the right side, however, that one factor u can never predict(turnovers) killed me. Still almost won the game though! Time to move on...no big surprise here...DENVER ML. As long as DEN figures out how to stop Foster, they win fairly easily I think. They gotta figure out that 3rd down defense though...ranked 28th in that category.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2012 - 2:26 AM ET #15

    IF PEYTON THROW 3 MORE INTERCEPTIONS IN 1st QTR I THINK HIS COACH SHOULD ASK HIM FOR DRUG TESTING.

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    IF PEYTON THROW 3 MORE INTERCEPTIONS IN 1st QTR I THINK HIS COACH SHOULD ASK HIM FOR DRUG TESTING.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2012 - 2:43 AM ET #16

    glad to see the consensus analysis shows 58% for houston...i like my denver bet even better now!!!  Power of the home dogs....john q. public betting road favorites keeps the 'books open!!!  i can't offer expert insight....i just think denver gets it done at home.
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    glad to see the consensus analysis shows 58% for houston...i like my denver bet even better now!!!  Power of the home dogs....john q. public betting road favorites keeps the 'books open!!!  i can't offer expert insight....i just think denver gets it done at home.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2012 - 2:50 AM ET #17

    Funny...a post on here sounds like a few people i talked to after that denver/atlanta game...people saying they were on the right side...taking denver but the still lost, lol.  Atlanta really doesnt lose at home and they could have totally crushed denver...but as most teams do, they get a big lead and they dont fully attack...get a little complacent, tentative....prob dont want to run up the score...denver scores late to give the road bettors some hope, lol.  Matt Ryan..now 27-4 at home. side note:   I do think san diego will get by atlanta this week. 

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    Funny...a post on here sounds like a few people i talked to after that denver/atlanta game...people saying they were on the right side...taking denver but the still lost, lol.  Atlanta really doesnt lose at home and they could have totally crushed denver...but as most teams do, they get a big lead and they dont fully attack...get a little complacent, tentative....prob dont want to run up the score...denver scores late to give the road bettors some hope, lol.  Matt Ryan..now 27-4 at home. side note:   I do think san diego will get by atlanta this week. 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2012 - 3:12 AM ET #18

    Whose post is that?
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    Whose post is that?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2012 - 3:31 AM ET #19

    Jk I know it's mine. I do agree it's dumb to say that you were right when u lost. However, while watching that game it was obvious to me that DEN was the better all-around team. And I don't care what anyone says, u take away just one of those turnovers and u get a push at the very least
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    Jk I know it's mine. I do agree it's dumb to say that you were right when u lost. However, while watching that game it was obvious to me that DEN was the better all-around team. And I don't care what anyone says, u take away just one of those turnovers and u get a push at the very least
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2012 - 10:21 AM ET #20

    Oooh another home dog!
    DEN is a pretty tough place to play for visiting teams so i'll take the points.
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    Oooh another home dog!
    DEN is a pretty tough place to play for visiting teams so i'll take the points.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2012 - 12:27 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by Quinnsky:

    Houston has never started 3-0 and they have beat Miami who is 1-1 and Jacksonville 0-2.....So the #1 ranked defense is a little over rated in my eyers. Denver beat Pgh who is now 1-1 and lost to Atlanta who is 2-0.....Denver on a bounce back game at home. Good Luck everyone..!

    You're right, the #1 ranking doesn't mean anything after the first 2 games; however, Houston's defense returns 10 starters from last year's #2 defense, so I don't think it is all that overrated.  Peyton is Peyton, but he's going to have to work a lot harder to put up points than he did in his old AFC South days. 

    Same for the Texans, they used to be able to score at will but couldn't stop anyone.  With the way the offense is built now, the Texans aren't trying to blow anyone out, and Kubiak seems to be satisfied with long drives (even those that ends in FG's), versus taking shots downfield.  I think they will have trouble scoring on the Broncos. 

    I originally liked the under at 46.5, but if it keeps going down the over may be the play.  44.5 scares me, because I see each team scoring around 20-24 points. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinnsky:

    Houston has never started 3-0 and they have beat Miami who is 1-1 and Jacksonville 0-2.....So the #1 ranked defense is a little over rated in my eyers. Denver beat Pgh who is now 1-1 and lost to Atlanta who is 2-0.....Denver on a bounce back game at home. Good Luck everyone..!

    You're right, the #1 ranking doesn't mean anything after the first 2 games; however, Houston's defense returns 10 starters from last year's #2 defense, so I don't think it is all that overrated.  Peyton is Peyton, but he's going to have to work a lot harder to put up points than he did in his old AFC South days. 

    Same for the Texans, they used to be able to score at will but couldn't stop anyone.  With the way the offense is built now, the Texans aren't trying to blow anyone out, and Kubiak seems to be satisfied with long drives (even those that ends in FG's), versus taking shots downfield.  I think they will have trouble scoring on the Broncos. 

    I originally liked the under at 46.5, but if it keeps going down the over may be the play.  44.5 scares me, because I see each team scoring around 20-24 points. 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2012 - 5:58 PM ET #22

    Houston has only been jogging so far, lets see what they can do if they are asked to let it out. That weaker arm of peyton and his big ego could result in a repeat of last week. Turnovers will make the difference here. Houston large'

    Houston Texans break in the Broncos. 

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    Houston has only been jogging so far, lets see what they can do if they are asked to let it out. That weaker arm of peyton and his big ego could result in a repeat of last week. Turnovers will make the difference here. Houston large'

    Houston Texans break in the Broncos. 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2012 - 3:07 AM ET #23

    By jogging? Do you mean played weak ass opponents?....they have been "letting" it out....Houston relies heavy on the run game...Denver has been great against the run. Houston will soon learn that maybe picking up a decent wideout to supplement Johnson would be a good idea. Peyton's arm is hardly weak and his ego (also called confidence) is well deserved and allows him to bounce back. P.s. Mellow, turnovers always "make the difference" so tell us something we don't know. Welcome to Mile High...DENVER ML
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    By jogging? Do you mean played weak ass opponents?....they have been "letting" it out....Houston relies heavy on the run game...Denver has been great against the run. Houston will soon learn that maybe picking up a decent wideout to supplement Johnson would be a good idea. Peyton's arm is hardly weak and his ego (also called confidence) is well deserved and allows him to bounce back. P.s. Mellow, turnovers always "make the difference" so tell us something we don't know. Welcome to Mile High...DENVER ML
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2012 - 3:22 AM ET #24

    My thinking is this....Yes Peyton did throw 3 early picks last wk @ atl but I love the fact how during wk 1 the public gushing over the Peyton story then after wk 2 it's well hes not that good. If those 3 ints were honest mistakes ag atl and he cant physically make those throws or he just lacks the chemistry w/ his receiving corp don't you believe that he will correct those issues in one week? Keep in mind...he calls his own plays so if he is now aware that he can't make "those" throws bc of arm strength issues, dont you think he will call different passing routes and schemes for a better prob of completion?
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    My thinking is this....Yes Peyton did throw 3 early picks last wk @ atl but I love the fact how during wk 1 the public gushing over the Peyton story then after wk 2 it's well hes not that good. If those 3 ints were honest mistakes ag atl and he cant physically make those throws or he just lacks the chemistry w/ his receiving corp don't you believe that he will correct those issues in one week? Keep in mind...he calls his own plays so if he is now aware that he can't make "those" throws bc of arm strength issues, dont you think he will call different passing routes and schemes for a better prob of completion?
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2012 - 3:55 AM ET #25

    We all know the coach of Houston is very conservative to say the least, verging on box. So what I want to see is how they do when they have to excel.  Yes they  have been playing weak ass opponents. I think they have alot of room before the pedal hits the metal. I also agree they need to up the reciever count and get more aggresive in a pass dominated league. 

    Passing wins game. Peytons passes lacked zing last week and I dont think that is something that can be fixed in one week. That wont fly with Houstons pass defense. 
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    We all know the coach of Houston is very conservative to say the least, verging on box. So what I want to see is how they do when they have to excel.  Yes they  have been playing weak ass opponents. I think they have alot of room before the pedal hits the metal. I also agree they need to up the reciever count and get more aggresive in a pass dominated league. 

    Passing wins game. Peytons passes lacked zing last week and I dont think that is something that can be fixed in one week. That wont fly with Houstons pass defense. 
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