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    Green Bay at New Orleans (10/26/2014)

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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2014 - 2:19 AM ET #1

    Away:  Green Bay [4-2-1 ATS]
    Home:  New Orleans [2-4 ATS]

    Game Time: 8:30 PM
    Stadium: Mercedes-Benz Superdome

    Featured Lines

    Recent Meetings:
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    Team Leaders:

    Green Bay:
    Passing: Aaron Rodgers (1674)
    Rushing: Eddie Lacy (369)
    Receiving: Jordy Nelson (712)

    New Orleans:
    Passing: Drew Brees (1916)
    Rushing: Khiry Robinson (330)
    Receiving: Jimmy Graham (376)

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    Away:  Green Bay [4-2-1 ATS]
    Home:  New Orleans [2-4 ATS]

    Game Time: 8:30 PM
    Stadium: Mercedes-Benz Superdome

    Featured Lines

    Recent Meetings:
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    Team Leaders:

    Green Bay:
    Passing: Aaron Rodgers (1674)
    Rushing: Eddie Lacy (369)
    Receiving: Jordy Nelson (712)

    New Orleans:
    Passing: Drew Brees (1916)
    Rushing: Khiry Robinson (330)
    Receiving: Jimmy Graham (376)

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2014 - 2:23 AM ET #2

    No -1.5
    Over 55.5
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    No -1.5
    Over 55.5
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2014 - 9:53 AM ET #3

    Highest total of the year so far...at 56 and possibly climbing, this total is an automatic UNDER play for me.

    Teams have settled down and these high totals are starting to result in unders - there have been four games with totals set at 50 or higher in the last three weeks.  All went under the total. 

    Green Bay has played seven games this year and not one has exceeded 56 points.

    New Orleans has played six games, two of which have gone over 56 points - at Atlanta in week 1 and home versus TB in week 5.  Both divisional shootouts.

    That's two results over 56 points out of thirteen games, which is a 15% outcome.  Not great odds there.

    Do the road and away math on these two teams and you get a predicted outcome of 47.25 points scored.  Do the math on all games combined and you get 51.375 points.

    The fact that it is a primetime game does make me a little leery BUT to exceed 56 points you need a minimum of 14 points per quarter just to push...get a 3 or 7 point quarter and all of a sudden you need 24 in the next one.

    Final score GB 27 NO 23 for an UNDER 56.

    And yes I know the head to head on these two QBs in recent years has been north of 70 PPG.  However - that's three games over six years.  Going to disregard that stat at my own peril.

    GL to all

     

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    Highest total of the year so far...at 56 and possibly climbing, this total is an automatic UNDER play for me.

    Teams have settled down and these high totals are starting to result in unders - there have been four games with totals set at 50 or higher in the last three weeks.  All went under the total. 

    Green Bay has played seven games this year and not one has exceeded 56 points.

    New Orleans has played six games, two of which have gone over 56 points - at Atlanta in week 1 and home versus TB in week 5.  Both divisional shootouts.

    That's two results over 56 points out of thirteen games, which is a 15% outcome.  Not great odds there.

    Do the road and away math on these two teams and you get a predicted outcome of 47.25 points scored.  Do the math on all games combined and you get 51.375 points.

    The fact that it is a primetime game does make me a little leery BUT to exceed 56 points you need a minimum of 14 points per quarter just to push...get a 3 or 7 point quarter and all of a sudden you need 24 in the next one.

    Final score GB 27 NO 23 for an UNDER 56.

    And yes I know the head to head on these two QBs in recent years has been north of 70 PPG.  However - that's three games over six years.  Going to disregard that stat at my own peril.

    GL to all

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2014 - 5:16 PM ET #4

    GRB will not hold NO to 23 ol in the dome. NO ave. 35 a game at home with Payton behind the bench recently and vs this wanting  GRB D. 35 is a min. amount NO will put up.

    This game may go under but only because the Saints hold down  the Pack.

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    GRB will not hold NO to 23 ol in the dome. NO ave. 35 a game at home with Payton behind the bench recently and vs this wanting  GRB D. 35 is a min. amount NO will put up.

    This game may go under but only because the Saints hold down  the Pack.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2014 - 6:40 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by keven vanlith:

    GRB will not hold NO to 23 ol in the dome. NO ave. 35 a game at home with Payton behind the bench recently and vs this wanting  GRB D. 35 is a min. amount NO will put up.

    This game may go under but only because the Saints hold down  the Pack.

    In what universe are the Saints "recently" averaging 35 points per game at home?  Did I not see them "recently" score 20 points hosting the Vikings?  THE VIKINGS???

    This year's average is 28.5

    Last year's average is 27.875

    You must be thinking of 2011 when they averaged over 40 points per game.  This is not that team. That was in 2011, which was three years ago.

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by keven vanlith:

    GRB will not hold NO to 23 ol in the dome. NO ave. 35 a game at home with Payton behind the bench recently and vs this wanting  GRB D. 35 is a min. amount NO will put up.

    This game may go under but only because the Saints hold down  the Pack.

    In what universe are the Saints "recently" averaging 35 points per game at home?  Did I not see them "recently" score 20 points hosting the Vikings?  THE VIKINGS???

    This year's average is 28.5

    Last year's average is 27.875

    You must be thinking of 2011 when they averaged over 40 points per game.  This is not that team. That was in 2011, which was three years ago.

     

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by omb1:

    In what universe are the Saints "recently" averaging 35 points per game at home?  Did I not see them "recently" score 20 points hosting the Vikings?  THE VIKINGS???

    This year's average is 28.5

    Last year's average is 27.875

    You must be thinking of 2011 when they averaged over 40 points per game.  This is not that team. That was in 2011, which was three years ago.

     

    Not here to be confrontational and GL on your under Rodney

    The Saints scored 272 points at home last year divided by 8 is just under 34.5 pts a game.

    Yes their Off. troubled me vs the Vikings after steam rolling the 1st 2 poss. for TDs and doing little after that.

    I am playing the Saints huge this week and i think for both you and me the best strat. the Saints can use is running Ingram, Cadet and Robinson at that 31st ranked  run D. to keep Aaron off the field and run the clock down.

    The Saints are are not the best running team in the league but at home they can be very effective and that makes Brees even that much better, so the saints running game will be our friend this week Rodney and GL again.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by omb1:

    In what universe are the Saints "recently" averaging 35 points per game at home?  Did I not see them "recently" score 20 points hosting the Vikings?  THE VIKINGS???

    This year's average is 28.5

    Last year's average is 27.875

    You must be thinking of 2011 when they averaged over 40 points per game.  This is not that team. That was in 2011, which was three years ago.

     

    Not here to be confrontational and GL on your under Rodney

    The Saints scored 272 points at home last year divided by 8 is just under 34.5 pts a game.

    Yes their Off. troubled me vs the Vikings after steam rolling the 1st 2 poss. for TDs and doing little after that.

    I am playing the Saints huge this week and i think for both you and me the best strat. the Saints can use is running Ingram, Cadet and Robinson at that 31st ranked  run D. to keep Aaron off the field and run the clock down.

    The Saints are are not the best running team in the league but at home they can be very effective and that makes Brees even that much better, so the saints running game will be our friend this week Rodney and GL again.

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2014 - 8:06 PM ET #7

     Exactly 34 points a game

    My bad

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     Exactly 34 points a game

    My bad

     
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    Keven I stand corrected - double checked the numbers and last year comes out to 34 exactly.

    I expect a dedicated run game out of both NO and GB.  Extended possessions will promote the under.

    My original point was that when totals get this high you almost have to take the under as a percentage play.  The numbers support this regardless of who's on the field.

    GL on your Saints play and on the rest of the season. 

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    Keven I stand corrected - double checked the numbers and last year comes out to 34 exactly.

    I expect a dedicated run game out of both NO and GB.  Extended possessions will promote the under.

    My original point was that when totals get this high you almost have to take the under as a percentage play.  The numbers support this regardless of who's on the field.

    GL on your Saints play and on the rest of the season. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2014 - 12:29 AM ET #9

     

    GREEN BAY    +     2     (PRIME PLAY!)

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    GREEN BAY    +     2     (PRIME PLAY!)

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2014 - 7:11 PM ET #10

    I like the over here.  Saints will get some calls in this game due to their record.  Maybe a 4th quarter full of fireworks.  Looking forward to the Sunday night action. 31 -30 Saints. 
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    I like the over here.  Saints will get some calls in this game due to their record.  Maybe a 4th quarter full of fireworks.  Looking forward to the Sunday night action. 31 -30 Saints. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2014 - 3:54 AM ET #11

    Saints ML
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    Saints ML
     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2014 - 12:51 AM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by omb1:

    Highest total of the year so far...at 56 and possibly climbing, this total is an automatic UNDER play for me.

    Teams have settled down and these high totals are starting to result in unders - there have been four games with totals set at 50 or higher in the last three weeks.  All went under the total. 

    Green Bay has played seven games this year and not one has exceeded 56 points.

    New Orleans has played six games, two of which have gone over 56 points - at Atlanta in week 1 and home versus TB in week 5.  Both divisional shootouts.

    That's two results over 56 points out of thirteen games, which is a 15% outcome.  Not great odds there.

    Do the road and away math on these two teams and you get a predicted outcome of 47.25 points scored.  Do the math on all games combined and you get 51.375 points.

    The fact that it is a primetime game does make me a little leery BUT to exceed 56 points you need a minimum of 14 points per quarter just to push...get a 3 or 7 point quarter and all of a sudden you need 24 in the next one.

    Final score GB 27 NO 23 for an UNDER 56.

    And yes I know the head to head on these two QBs in recent years has been north of 70 PPG.  However - that's three games over six years.  Going to disregard that stat at my own peril.

    GL to all

     

    Another erroneous statement, is that no game set at 50 or higher has gone over. If I recall correctly SD/DEN opened at 50, closed at 51.5 and the final total was 56... which would be over. For me this game is an automatic OVER! Too many people will be scared of the 55-56 total, and will become victims to the dreaded trap. GLTA 
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    Quote Originally Posted by omb1:

    Highest total of the year so far...at 56 and possibly climbing, this total is an automatic UNDER play for me.

    Teams have settled down and these high totals are starting to result in unders - there have been four games with totals set at 50 or higher in the last three weeks.  All went under the total. 

    Green Bay has played seven games this year and not one has exceeded 56 points.

    New Orleans has played six games, two of which have gone over 56 points - at Atlanta in week 1 and home versus TB in week 5.  Both divisional shootouts.

    That's two results over 56 points out of thirteen games, which is a 15% outcome.  Not great odds there.

    Do the road and away math on these two teams and you get a predicted outcome of 47.25 points scored.  Do the math on all games combined and you get 51.375 points.

    The fact that it is a primetime game does make me a little leery BUT to exceed 56 points you need a minimum of 14 points per quarter just to push...get a 3 or 7 point quarter and all of a sudden you need 24 in the next one.

    Final score GB 27 NO 23 for an UNDER 56.

    And yes I know the head to head on these two QBs in recent years has been north of 70 PPG.  However - that's three games over six years.  Going to disregard that stat at my own peril.

    GL to all

     

    Another erroneous statement, is that no game set at 50 or higher has gone over. If I recall correctly SD/DEN opened at 50, closed at 51.5 and the final total was 56... which would be over. For me this game is an automatic OVER! Too many people will be scared of the 55-56 total, and will become victims to the dreaded trap. GLTA 
     
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    Texans -2

    Vikings +2.5

    Dolphins -6

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    Lions -3.5

    Saints -1.5

    Texans -2

    Vikings +2.5

    Dolphins -6

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fingers702:

    Another erroneous statement, is that no game set at 50 or higher has gone over. If I recall correctly SD/DEN opened at 50, closed at 51.5 and the final total was 56... which would be over. For me this game is an automatic OVER! Too many people will be scared of the 55-56 total, and will become victims to the dreaded trap. GLTA 

    Originally posted the day before the SD/DEN game, so not erroneous at the time.  I was referring to weeks 5-7.  Please read more carefully before responding, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fingers702:

    Another erroneous statement, is that no game set at 50 or higher has gone over. If I recall correctly SD/DEN opened at 50, closed at 51.5 and the final total was 56... which would be over. For me this game is an automatic OVER! Too many people will be scared of the 55-56 total, and will become victims to the dreaded trap. GLTA 

    Originally posted the day before the SD/DEN game, so not erroneous at the time.  I was referring to weeks 5-7.  Please read more carefully before responding, thanks.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2014 - 12:29 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by omb1:

    Originally posted the day before the SD/DEN game, so not erroneous at the time.  I was referring to weeks 5-7.  Please read more carefully before responding, thanks.

    Regardless, it was bogus information. I will gladly bet this over, and think of you the whole time
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    Quote Originally Posted by omb1:

    Originally posted the day before the SD/DEN game, so not erroneous at the time.  I was referring to weeks 5-7.  Please read more carefully before responding, thanks.

    Regardless, it was bogus information. I will gladly bet this over, and think of you the whole time
     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2014 - 1:08 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by Fingers702:

    Regardless, it was bogus information. I will gladly bet this over, and think of you the whole time

    If you want to be confrontational that's fine but at least have something intelligent to say rather than just blustering that I'm providing "bogus" information.  Everything in my original post is 100% fact. 

    Good luck with your over

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fingers702:

    Regardless, it was bogus information. I will gladly bet this over, and think of you the whole time

    If you want to be confrontational that's fine but at least have something intelligent to say rather than just blustering that I'm providing "bogus" information.  Everything in my original post is 100% fact. 

    Good luck with your over

     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2014 - 11:12 AM ET #17

    I'm from and live in new orleans and i fully hate to say this but we have no defense,if we do they better wake the f up and stop missing taces. Aaron rogers n lacy r gonna kill us,i see alot of u like the under,if new orleans wins it will not be under,possible green bay n under but if what i have been seeing from my team is true it will be green bay n over, 35-24 possibly up to 31, we have a strond offense but we down to two runnin backs and tbats scary the way players r droppin like flies. Gl guys,I'm leaning towardz green bay but might have to stay out of it,i keyed detroit -1 last week because i knew we dont have a defense,rogers n green bay is twice the beast that detroit is,only thing that can save the saints is the 12th man if thats even possible
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    I'm from and live in new orleans and i fully hate to say this but we have no defense,if we do they better wake the f up and stop missing taces. Aaron rogers n lacy r gonna kill us,i see alot of u like the under,if new orleans wins it will not be under,possible green bay n under but if what i have been seeing from my team is true it will be green bay n over, 35-24 possibly up to 31, we have a strond offense but we down to two runnin backs and tbats scary the way players r droppin like flies. Gl guys,I'm leaning towardz green bay but might have to stay out of it,i keyed detroit -1 last week because i knew we dont have a defense,rogers n green bay is twice the beast that detroit is,only thing that can save the saints is the 12th man if thats even possible
     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2014 - 12:05 PM ET #18

    CHEESE HEADS AND OVER..FEELS FUNNY GOING AGAINST BREES...G.B ROLLS
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    CHEESE HEADS AND OVER..FEELS FUNNY GOING AGAINST BREES...G.B ROLLS
     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2014 - 3:56 PM ET #19

    I like the Saints at home, I know Rogers and the Pack have been very good of late. 

    Saints -2 / Over 56

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    I like the Saints at home, I know Rogers and the Pack have been very good of late. 

    Saints -2 / Over 56

     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2014 - 5:30 PM ET #20

    Halloween Game, Nighttime primetime, Voodoo on Bourbon Street all the crazies will be out in full force. this feels like a Saints type of game

    offensive shootout

    saints -2 and over 55

     

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    Halloween Game, Nighttime primetime, Voodoo on Bourbon Street all the crazies will be out in full force. this feels like a Saints type of game

    offensive shootout

    saints -2 and over 55

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2014 - 5:46 PM ET #21

    Who likes this?

    Saints, over 50, and the Giants

    parlay to triple my money

    hopefully Butt-Gardener doesn't screw me over.

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    Who likes this?

    Saints, over 50, and the Giants

    parlay to triple my money

    hopefully Butt-Gardener doesn't screw me over.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2014 - 5:58 PM ET #22

    I'm 4-0 today with KC, NE, and two unders that were good. Think Rogers will be the difference in this game. GL all. Taking SF tonight  in the world series. Hoping Bumgardner has a great night since I'm getting 10-1 on him as the WS MVP.
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    I'm 4-0 today with KC, NE, and two unders that were good. Think Rogers will be the difference in this game. GL all. Taking SF tonight  in the world series. Hoping Bumgardner has a great night since I'm getting 10-1 on him as the WS MVP.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2014 - 6:16 PM ET #23

    I wouldn't over think this game. Primetime games have been going over this year. GB getting 1.5 is a gift! Take it and run...and then go get paid!

     Packers +1.5 / ovr 55 
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    I wouldn't over think this game. Primetime games have been going over this year. GB getting 1.5 is a gift! Take it and run...and then go get paid!

     Packers +1.5 / ovr 55 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2014 - 6:23 PM ET #24

    STAYING WITH THE PACK-----------------GLTA
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    STAYING WITH THE PACK-----------------GLTA
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2014 - 7:02 PM ET #25

    super-bowl=OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    super-bowl=OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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