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    Detroit at Arizona (11/16/2014)

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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2014 - 9:44 AM ET #1

    Away:  Detroit [5-4 ATS]
    Home:  Arizona [7-2 ATS]

    Game Time: 4:25 PM
    Stadium: University of Phoenix Stadium

    Featured Lines

    Recent Meetings:
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    Team Leaders:

    Detroit:
    Passing: Matthew Stafford (2496)
    Rushing: Joique Bell (357)
    Receiving: Golden Tate (909)

    Arizona:
    Passing: Carson Palmer (1626)
    Rushing: Andre Ellington (582)
    Receiving: Larry Fitzgerald (625)

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    Away:  Detroit [5-4 ATS]
    Home:  Arizona [7-2 ATS]

    Game Time: 4:25 PM
    Stadium: University of Phoenix Stadium

    Featured Lines

    Recent Meetings:
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    Team Leaders:

    Detroit:
    Passing: Matthew Stafford (2496)
    Rushing: Joique Bell (357)
    Receiving: Golden Tate (909)

    Arizona:
    Passing: Carson Palmer (1626)
    Rushing: Andre Ellington (582)
    Receiving: Larry Fitzgerald (625)

     
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    Posted: Nov. 13, 2014 - 2:00 PM ET #2

    My favorite game of the week.  I'm taking Lions to win.
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    My favorite game of the week.  I'm taking Lions to win.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2014 - 1:26 PM ET #3

    The Lions are a pitiful on road.Great defense,but lousy on grass,thats why vs a good team like Arizona they struggle.Stanton is actually more athletic than Carson Palmer.The Cards new coach made sure when he came to Arizona this year that Drew be his backup QB Stanton is a good QB,dont let that game in Denver define him,he's good and will get it done,the Cards want to prove that this week!! 24-12 Arizona Cardinals and that grass field.
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    The Lions are a pitiful on road.Great defense,but lousy on grass,thats why vs a good team like Arizona they struggle.Stanton is actually more athletic than Carson Palmer.The Cards new coach made sure when he came to Arizona this year that Drew be his backup QB Stanton is a good QB,dont let that game in Denver define him,he's good and will get it done,the Cards want to prove that this week!! 24-12 Arizona Cardinals and that grass field.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2014 - 5:55 PM ET #4

    guaranteed over game one of my biggest bets in the season
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    guaranteed over game one of my biggest bets in the season
     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2014 - 6:47 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by let_itride:

    guaranteed over game one of my biggest bets in the season

    Agreed - everyone expecting a defensive struggle - which it will be for the majority of the game, however I think both offenses will have a couple of big plays that push this just over the 41.5

    Cards 24 Lions 20 in a game that comes down to the last minute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by let_itride:

    guaranteed over game one of my biggest bets in the season

    Agreed - everyone expecting a defensive struggle - which it will be for the majority of the game, however I think both offenses will have a couple of big plays that push this just over the 41.5

    Cards 24 Lions 20 in a game that comes down to the last minute.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2014 - 12:58 AM ET #6

    ARIZONA         -    1

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    ARIZONA         -    1

     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2014 - 5:55 AM ET #7

    u go over i guaranteed u lose
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    u go over i guaranteed u lose
     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2014 - 12:44 PM ET #8

    Arizona Cardinals - 1
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    Arizona Cardinals - 1
     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2014 - 2:56 PM ET #9

    Wow lots of Card love here.QB Stanton still settling in and RB - Taylor with a calf injury last week so even if he plays this one,will he be at full strength?Puts all the pressure on the QB if you cant run the rock.Everyone screaming about Defenses.Cards secondary is banged up against the pass (30th) while their Run D is certainly solid enough (3rd) but unfortunately Detroit isnt known for their Rushing O at (30th) but they do like to Pass at (9th).On paper it looks well enough but consider the strength of schedules of both teams.Gotta lean toward Detroit at PKem on the board.
    BoL all regardless of which side your on.
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    Wow lots of Card love here.QB Stanton still settling in and RB - Taylor with a calf injury last week so even if he plays this one,will he be at full strength?Puts all the pressure on the QB if you cant run the rock.Everyone screaming about Defenses.Cards secondary is banged up against the pass (30th) while their Run D is certainly solid enough (3rd) but unfortunately Detroit isnt known for their Rushing O at (30th) but they do like to Pass at (9th).On paper it looks well enough but consider the strength of schedules of both teams.Gotta lean toward Detroit at PKem on the board.
    BoL all regardless of which side your on.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2014 - 10:23 PM ET #10

    Arizona has 2 losses ATS all season.That good enough for me to pick them.
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    Arizona has 2 losses ATS all season.That good enough for me to pick them.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2014 - 1:39 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by mak104:

    Arizona has 2 losses ATS all season.That good enough for me to pick them.


    You're confident that regression isn't around the corner?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mak104:

    Arizona has 2 losses ATS all season.That good enough for me to pick them.


    You're confident that regression isn't around the corner?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2014 - 1:58 AM ET #12

    DET @ AZ -1

    Another battle between the top NFC Teams. One of these clubs will see their winning streaks end (DET 4-0 / AZ (5-0)

    The cards are a new team sitting at 8-1 which haven't seen this kind of success since 1948. Unfortunately, Carson Palmer is gone for the season, but before people think the cardinals season is over, Drew Stanton will try to take control of the ship. He is 2-1 this season and the cardinal’s offense should not miss a beat with him this week. With Palmer the cards points per drive are at an exact 2 points. With Stanton who has 25+ drives is at 1.9 PPD. Stanton’s success against the league’s best defense is the focal point to this game who 3rd vs the pass and 2nd vs the rush. Perfection seems the only way to get out of this one, and Stanton will need to continue what he left with throwing no picks in 144 pass (1st).  He will have to throw better against a supreme pass rush as he does only complete 49% of his passes. 

    Detroit has a QB of his own with Matt Stafford who now has the most pass yards in the first 70 games of a career. He will have to carry the offensive load with newly added Calvin Johnson back for another week vs a 30th ranked pass defense. The lions lack a running game especially with Reggie bush questionable and only average 77 yards and a break out game doesn't see likely vs a stout 3rd ranked rush defense. 

    You would expect with a low ranked passing defense the cardinals would get burned, but they have held teams to <20 Pts 8/9 games while playing teams such as DAL, PHI, SF, NYG, SD, with the exception of DEN. The lions have done well holding all teams below 25 points, but have failed to pass 25 points all but once. 

    This is going to be a close match up, but if I were to pick, I would side with Bruce Arians cardinals (who have won (15/18) as he seems to coach great a team through adversity all season and manage to dominate the 4th quarter more. Stafford does have 2nd most game winners, behind Brady with 5 but his numbers drop considerably on the road and is 13-21 on the road. 18-8 at home.  But the cardinals have WR John brown with (T-most in history) 3 game winners and they dominate as a unit In the 4th quarter.  They are 1st in point differential, TO margin, QBR, Opposing QBR. They have scored 37 points of TOs in the 4th alone. 

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    DET @ AZ -1

    Another battle between the top NFC Teams. One of these clubs will see their winning streaks end (DET 4-0 / AZ (5-0)

    The cards are a new team sitting at 8-1 which haven't seen this kind of success since 1948. Unfortunately, Carson Palmer is gone for the season, but before people think the cardinals season is over, Drew Stanton will try to take control of the ship. He is 2-1 this season and the cardinal’s offense should not miss a beat with him this week. With Palmer the cards points per drive are at an exact 2 points. With Stanton who has 25+ drives is at 1.9 PPD. Stanton’s success against the league’s best defense is the focal point to this game who 3rd vs the pass and 2nd vs the rush. Perfection seems the only way to get out of this one, and Stanton will need to continue what he left with throwing no picks in 144 pass (1st).  He will have to throw better against a supreme pass rush as he does only complete 49% of his passes. 

    Detroit has a QB of his own with Matt Stafford who now has the most pass yards in the first 70 games of a career. He will have to carry the offensive load with newly added Calvin Johnson back for another week vs a 30th ranked pass defense. The lions lack a running game especially with Reggie bush questionable and only average 77 yards and a break out game doesn't see likely vs a stout 3rd ranked rush defense. 

    You would expect with a low ranked passing defense the cardinals would get burned, but they have held teams to <20 Pts 8/9 games while playing teams such as DAL, PHI, SF, NYG, SD, with the exception of DEN. The lions have done well holding all teams below 25 points, but have failed to pass 25 points all but once. 

    This is going to be a close match up, but if I were to pick, I would side with Bruce Arians cardinals (who have won (15/18) as he seems to coach great a team through adversity all season and manage to dominate the 4th quarter more. Stafford does have 2nd most game winners, behind Brady with 5 but his numbers drop considerably on the road and is 13-21 on the road. 18-8 at home.  But the cardinals have WR John brown with (T-most in history) 3 game winners and they dominate as a unit In the 4th quarter.  They are 1st in point differential, TO margin, QBR, Opposing QBR. They have scored 37 points of TOs in the 4th alone. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2014 - 5:01 AM ET #13

    ARIZONA CARDINALS.................-1......
    Lions are 0-4 ATS in their last 4 games on grass. 
    ArizonaCardinals are 4-0 ATS in their last 4 games in November. 
    Cardinals are 4-0 ATS in their last 4 home games. 
    Cardinals are 4-0 ATS in their last 4 games on grass. 
    Head to HeadLions are 0-5 ATS in their last 5 meetings in Arizona. 
    Home team is 9-0 ATS in their last 9 meetings. 
    Lions are 1-4 ATS in their last 5 meetings. 
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    ARIZONA CARDINALS.................-1......
    Lions are 0-4 ATS in their last 4 games on grass. 
    ArizonaCardinals are 4-0 ATS in their last 4 games in November. 
    Cardinals are 4-0 ATS in their last 4 home games. 
    Cardinals are 4-0 ATS in their last 4 games on grass. 
    Head to HeadLions are 0-5 ATS in their last 5 meetings in Arizona. 
    Home team is 9-0 ATS in their last 9 meetings. 
    Lions are 1-4 ATS in their last 5 meetings. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2014 - 10:40 AM ET #14

    Arizona backup qb against a defensive team. Stafford better than Stanton also 
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    Arizona backup qb against a defensive team. Stafford better than Stanton also 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2014 - 12:02 PM ET #15

    For anyone that cannot make thier mind up on this game and Stanton.He beat SF at home earlier this year.Niners D  scheme is exactly chicken soup.Arizona 17-13
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    For anyone that cannot make thier mind up on this game and Stanton.He beat SF at home earlier this year.Niners D  scheme is exactly chicken soup.Arizona 17-13
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by morgan102:

    For anyone that cannot make thier mind up on this game and Stanton.He beat SF at home earlier this year.Niners D  scheme is exactly chicken soup.Arizona 17-13
    Sorry, is NOT exactly chicken soup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by morgan102:

    For anyone that cannot make thier mind up on this game and Stanton.He beat SF at home earlier this year.Niners D  scheme is exactly chicken soup.Arizona 17-13
    Sorry, is NOT exactly chicken soup.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2014 - 12:24 PM ET #17

    Bet 2dimes on Lions about 30mins ago.  Received adequate info regarding Peterson slight hamstring injury.  Just bet 3more dimes on lions pk...   Take the lions before the line jumps up quickly
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    Bet 2dimes on Lions about 30mins ago.  Received adequate info regarding Peterson slight hamstring injury.  Just bet 3more dimes on lions pk...   Take the lions before the line jumps up quickly
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2014 - 12:27 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by morgan102:

    Sorry, is NOT exactly chicken soup.

    49ers are a different team right now than before. Lions one of top 2  defenses in the league. Megatron is 100%..  26-10 Lions... 
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    Quote Originally Posted by morgan102:

    Sorry, is NOT exactly chicken soup.

    49ers are a different team right now than before. Lions one of top 2  defenses in the league. Megatron is 100%..  26-10 Lions... 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2014 - 3:08 PM ET #19

    Gotta take them Georgia boys!!! Lions!!!
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    Gotta take them Georgia boys!!! Lions!!!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2014 - 3:25 PM ET #20

    UNDER
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    UNDER
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2014 - 3:39 PM ET #21

    Both teams with have to throw a lot due to great run defenses both teams.

    Over 
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    Both teams with have to throw a lot due to great run defenses both teams.

    Over 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2014 - 3:40 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman88:

    Both teams with have to throw a lot due to great run defenses both teams.

    Over 

    geezzz, I can't type  *will


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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman88:

    Both teams with have to throw a lot due to great run defenses both teams.

    Over 

    geezzz, I can't type  *will


     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2014 - 4:55 PM ET #23

    first quarter only 17. .points already
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    first quarter only 17. .points already
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2014 - 7:12 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by betipickem:


    49ers are a different team right now than before. Lions one of top 2  defenses in the league. Megatron is 100%..  26-10 Lions... 
    Yeah,but the Lions are money burners outside the dome and real bad on grass.I hope you did'nt bet much man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by betipickem:


    49ers are a different team right now than before. Lions one of top 2  defenses in the league. Megatron is 100%..  26-10 Lions... 
    Yeah,but the Lions are money burners outside the dome and real bad on grass.I hope you did'nt bet much man.
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2014 - 7:18 PM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by vue21849:

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