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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2009 - 1:27 AM ET #1

    Away:  Denver [5-0 ATS]
    Home:  San Diego [1-3 ATS]

    Game Time: 8:30 PM
    Stadium: Qualcomm Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
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    Team Leaders:

    Denver:
    Passing: Kyle Orton (1236)
    Rushing: Knowshon Moreno (337)
    Receiving: Brandon Marshall (283)

    San Diego:
    Passing: Philip Rivers (1245)
    Rushing: Darren Sproles (90)
    Receiving: Vincent Jackson (373)

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    Away:  Denver [5-0 ATS]
    Home:  San Diego [1-3 ATS]

    Game Time: 8:30 PM
    Stadium: Qualcomm Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Denver:
    Passing: Kyle Orton (1236)
    Rushing: Knowshon Moreno (337)
    Receiving: Brandon Marshall (283)

    San Diego:
    Passing: Philip Rivers (1245)
    Rushing: Darren Sproles (90)
    Receiving: Vincent Jackson (373)

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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2009 - 4:44 AM ET #2

    I would expect San Diego to cover & play a complete game.DV has been getting lucky lately.This is San Diego's playoff game,they will step up in this one.
     
     
     SD -3.5
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    I would expect San Diego to cover & play a complete game.DV has been getting lucky lately.This is San Diego's playoff game,they will step up in this one.
     
     
     SD -3.5
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2009 - 1:03 PM ET #3

    No way SD covers. Denver wins this game, it's my pick of the week.
     
    Den +3.5
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    No way SD covers. Denver wins this game, it's my pick of the week.
     
    Den +3.5
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2009 - 1:16 PM ET #4

    lol sd cover?!? they couldnt cover on oakland dude give me den +3.5
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    lol sd cover?!? they couldnt cover on oakland dude give me den +3.5
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2009 - 4:23 PM ET #5

    Pro-z your same person that said Indy would'nt cover against Tenn.You act like your a big shot,your record is'nt that great.You ever heard that i rich man does'nt have to tell people he's rich.You act like your a baller."I'm a gold member which mean's i only bet a minimum $1000-$10000 the casino and cash only"What crappy casino's do they have in ontario?I'm in southern cali and go to vegas on the regular.Don't lie to kick it bro lol.You don't have to try to impress peeps you don't know.If you were really playing that kinda of coin you would keep it to your self.Instead you act like look at me i'm a big shot lol.......No one belives you
     
     
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    Pro-z your same person that said Indy would'nt cover against Tenn.You act like your a big shot,your record is'nt that great.You ever heard that i rich man does'nt have to tell people he's rich.You act like your a baller."I'm a gold member which mean's i only bet a minimum $1000-$10000 the casino and cash only"What crappy casino's do they have in ontario?I'm in southern cali and go to vegas on the regular.Don't lie to kick it bro lol.You don't have to try to impress peeps you don't know.If you were really playing that kinda of coin you would keep it to your self.Instead you act like look at me i'm a big shot lol.......No one belives you
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2009 - 5:26 PM ET #6

    lol why are you getting offensed ?!? first of all i took indi -3 .. second of all i did not say anything about me being a big shot or anything to harm your feelings.. i'm sorry if sd is making you cry this year.. lol
    all i said was sd did not cover on oakland why would they cover on denver.. oh and by the way not to brag or anything.. i made 9000 last week ... picking cleavland, cinci, the giants, philli and indi.. i lost pats, carolina and jets ... my record maybe not that good to you but i still capp games my man .. no hard feelings but denver will roll over you chargers :)
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    lol why are you getting offensed ?!? first of all i took indi -3 .. second of all i did not say anything about me being a big shot or anything to harm your feelings.. i'm sorry if sd is making you cry this year.. lol
    all i said was sd did not cover on oakland why would they cover on denver.. oh and by the way not to brag or anything.. i made 9000 last week ... picking cleavland, cinci, the giants, philli and indi.. i lost pats, carolina and jets ... my record maybe not that good to you but i still capp games my man .. no hard feelings but denver will roll over you chargers :)
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2009 - 5:27 PM ET #7

    your*** and another thing i did not ask for anyone to believe me.. why the hell do i care what you think .
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    your*** and another thing i did not ask for anyone to believe me.. why the hell do i care what you think .
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2009 - 5:28 PM ET #8

    o and sorry i forgot to say the vikings in the list.. good luck to all
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    o and sorry i forgot to say the vikings in the list.. good luck to all
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2009 - 1:17 AM ET #9

    SAN DIEGO -3.5 up to 7 on monday night against a 5-0 denver team that is now on everyone's radar
     
    ...and the 1st half over also
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    SAN DIEGO -3.5 up to 7 on monday night against a 5-0 denver team that is now on everyone's radar
     
    ...and the 1st half over also
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2009 - 3:58 AM ET #10

    Pro-z you crack me up.I have nothing against you.I just have to put you in your place cause your out of line.You change your story to much.Last week you said you had 4 games with 3000 on each and i know you split.So how did you pull in 9000?Stop with the stories bro,if you were a big capper we would be paying you for your picks.Right?SD is'nt my team,niners are.I'm just keeping it real.You like to brag to much and people that brag to much are full of it.You try to act like your a big baller from ontario.I mean come on now?LOL...It's okay to make your picks but stop b*&^ SH*&&ing about how much you through around because we all know it's not true.Like i said a true baller does'nt have to tell peep's how much dough he has.He know's whatz up and that's all that matters.
     
     
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    Pro-z you crack me up.I have nothing against you.I just have to put you in your place cause your out of line.You change your story to much.Last week you said you had 4 games with 3000 on each and i know you split.So how did you pull in 9000?Stop with the stories bro,if you were a big capper we would be paying you for your picks.Right?SD is'nt my team,niners are.I'm just keeping it real.You like to brag to much and people that brag to much are full of it.You try to act like your a big baller from ontario.I mean come on now?LOL...It's okay to make your picks but stop b*&^ SH*&&ing about how much you through around because we all know it's not true.Like i said a true baller does'nt have to tell peep's how much dough he has.He know's whatz up and that's all that matters.
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2009 - 10:55 AM ET #11

    pizoniballer31 lol i dont give a damnnnn if you believe it or not ahaha and i'm not from ontario i live here to study ... i did not come here to share anything with you.. i made a comment about who i think will cover and you blew out like a pregnant woman.. look home boy where does the oil come from?!? thats where i'm from thats all i have to say. as for you not believing what i picked then don't.. please stop posting back you are not putting anyone in place nor you ever will.. at the end the money is in my pocket not yours.. good luck to all
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    pizoniballer31 lol i dont give a damnnnn if you believe it or not ahaha and i'm not from ontario i live here to study ... i did not come here to share anything with you.. i made a comment about who i think will cover and you blew out like a pregnant woman.. look home boy where does the oil come from?!? thats where i'm from thats all i have to say. as for you not believing what i picked then don't.. please stop posting back you are not putting anyone in place nor you ever will.. at the end the money is in my pocket not yours.. good luck to all
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2009 - 5:25 PM ET #12

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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2009 - 11:34 PM ET #13

      Yo-Bro! Chill out Pizoniballer 3.1 Stop leaning on my arab friend, Pro Z! So the man brags a little. All decent cappers like to brag a little- no harm done.  I live in New York and between here and Ontario, there are plenty of bookies that will take your action! In fact, more bets are made out in the street, than in Vegas, all season long.  I've been checking out this guys record, and it's OK to me! This forum, is to help each other out to make winning wagers- not a freakin' war zone,bro!!
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      Yo-Bro! Chill out Pizoniballer 3.1 Stop leaning on my arab friend, Pro Z! So the man brags a little. All decent cappers like to brag a little- no harm done.  I live in New York and between here and Ontario, there are plenty of bookies that will take your action! In fact, more bets are made out in the street, than in Vegas, all season long.  I've been checking out this guys record, and it's OK to me! This forum, is to help each other out to make winning wagers- not a freakin' war zone,bro!!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2009 - 12:05 AM ET #14

    San Diego covers 27-20.
    Chargers at home Monday Night
    Rivers will move the ball down the field
    Orton makes a couple turnovers.
                              GL Everyone
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    San Diego covers 27-20.
    Chargers at home Monday Night
    Rivers will move the ball down the field
    Orton makes a couple turnovers.
                              GL Everyone
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2009 - 12:36 AM ET #15

    Hmm. Why shouldn't I take the 3.5 points and Denver here? They've covered every game they've played so far, and they would have covered vs. Cincy even without the miracle play. Also, SD seems to have turned into a one-dimensional passing team recently, mostly because they haven't been able to run it. Not because other teams are loading up on the line of scrimmage. I'm sure Denver will account for that.
     
    It's just very hard to imagine SD getting 10 points ahead in this upcoming game. Denver +3.5.
     
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    Hmm. Why shouldn't I take the 3.5 points and Denver here? They've covered every game they've played so far, and they would have covered vs. Cincy even without the miracle play. Also, SD seems to have turned into a one-dimensional passing team recently, mostly because they haven't been able to run it. Not because other teams are loading up on the line of scrimmage. I'm sure Denver will account for that.
     
    It's just very hard to imagine SD getting 10 points ahead in this upcoming game. Denver +3.5.
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2009 - 12:39 AM ET #16

    vue21849 thx man... and just think of it people denver is on their a game... they beat cinci (ok i admit by luck) they beat new england when they are hot ... i donno man denver +3.5 i think sd might win but no more than 3
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    vue21849 thx man... and just think of it people denver is on their a game... they beat cinci (ok i admit by luck) they beat new england when they are hot ... i donno man denver +3.5 i think sd might win but no more than 3
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2009 - 1:09 AM ET #17

    what's up guys...i'm new to posting in this forum but i've been reading on here for the past few years and i've finally decided to do some posting myself and give you my 2 cents. look forward to reading more of your advices and making some money
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    what's up guys...i'm new to posting in this forum but i've been reading on here for the past few years and i've finally decided to do some posting myself and give you my 2 cents. look forward to reading more of your advices and making some money
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2009 - 1:32 AM ET #18

    history says SD owns this matchup but DEN is 5-0 for a reason. personally, i've been on the wrong end of the stick against DEN the past 2 weeks so i may be subjective here...

    SD is coming of a bye week. last week there were 4 teams coming of a bye and all 4 won their games (incl. 3 home teams) with only CAR unable to cover. DEN has been stout on defense and beginning to roll on offense but their offense is not capable of being in a shootout with SD nor can they eat away at the clock to keep SD offense from being on the field. So again, DEN key to winning is obviously in containing SD offense. Even with Champ Bailey and Brian Dawkins in the secondary, SD receiving core poses too many mismatches with their size. hence, it's critical that DEN puts a lot of pressure on Rivers and get him out of his rhythm. the only problem is...SD has a great underneath passing attack with LT and sproles which will counter DEN pass rush/blitz.

    Also, i think SD has a chip on its shoulder from their embarrassing lost to PIT before going on the bye week. Like last year, SD will run those broncos out of town.

    - SD -3.5pts
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    history says SD owns this matchup but DEN is 5-0 for a reason. personally, i've been on the wrong end of the stick against DEN the past 2 weeks so i may be subjective here...

    SD is coming of a bye week. last week there were 4 teams coming of a bye and all 4 won their games (incl. 3 home teams) with only CAR unable to cover. DEN has been stout on defense and beginning to roll on offense but their offense is not capable of being in a shootout with SD nor can they eat away at the clock to keep SD offense from being on the field. So again, DEN key to winning is obviously in containing SD offense. Even with Champ Bailey and Brian Dawkins in the secondary, SD receiving core poses too many mismatches with their size. hence, it's critical that DEN puts a lot of pressure on Rivers and get him out of his rhythm. the only problem is...SD has a great underneath passing attack with LT and sproles which will counter DEN pass rush/blitz.

    Also, i think SD has a chip on its shoulder from their embarrassing lost to PIT before going on the bye week. Like last year, SD will run those broncos out of town.

    - SD -3.5pts
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2009 - 10:21 AM ET #19

    Vue.... Dealing with average chump bookies are better then chilling at the wynn in vegas?Please explain....lol....Pro-z i'm not hating i'm just stating stop crying wolf with how much coin your dropping on each game.Your not a high roller lol... Also nothing's wrong with internet gambling to.Most peeps are'nt near casinos....Okay back to this game.Most "experts" picked SD to win the superbowl before the season started.Ladanian has been hurt and also Shawn Merriman.They will be back at full strength on monday.3-1 against DEN the last 3 seasons.
     
     
    -3.5 SD all the way
     
    Final Scoare San Diego 31 Denver 17
     
     What's that sound?It's the sound of all you chumps losing your money lol....Good Luck...Don't pick like a square
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    Vue.... Dealing with average chump bookies are better then chilling at the wynn in vegas?Please explain....lol....Pro-z i'm not hating i'm just stating stop crying wolf with how much coin your dropping on each game.Your not a high roller lol... Also nothing's wrong with internet gambling to.Most peeps are'nt near casinos....Okay back to this game.Most "experts" picked SD to win the superbowl before the season started.Ladanian has been hurt and also Shawn Merriman.They will be back at full strength on monday.3-1 against DEN the last 3 seasons.
     
     
    -3.5 SD all the way
     
    Final Scoare San Diego 31 Denver 17
     
     What's that sound?It's the sound of all you chumps losing your money lol....Good Luck...Don't pick like a square
     
    pro-z
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2009 - 12:28 PM ET #20

    pizoniballer31 why does it bother you so much if i'm a high roller or not?!? stick to your business and ill stick to mine.. i mean if your having money issues hit me up ill wire you some but stop crying man cause everyone that has money likes to brag a lil.. and yah sd own this matchup but things are different this year. denver beat the pats, cinci , dallas, oakland and ate cleavland for breakfast... cleavland is a bad team but they also scored a win on buffalo and almost beat cinci.. oakland is just horrible ill give you that.. cinci is a fuckin amazing team this year and they beat them, even if they did not get that touchdown by luck, they woulda still won like my friend said here. and dallas they are an alright team.. but beating the pats when they are hot, that says it all.. so as i'm saying to you even if sd owns this matchup, denver does not run the ball as much anymore, they throw the ball around and that is something sd is horrible at, like we saw what the steelers did to them but finallly the steelers d gave up at the end of the game.. soo that being said you are the one betting like a chump and not thinking.. we actualllly think before we make out wagers..
    good luck to all
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    pizoniballer31 why does it bother you so much if i'm a high roller or not?!? stick to your business and ill stick to mine.. i mean if your having money issues hit me up ill wire you some but stop crying man cause everyone that has money likes to brag a lil.. and yah sd own this matchup but things are different this year. denver beat the pats, cinci , dallas, oakland and ate cleavland for breakfast... cleavland is a bad team but they also scored a win on buffalo and almost beat cinci.. oakland is just horrible ill give you that.. cinci is a fuckin amazing team this year and they beat them, even if they did not get that touchdown by luck, they woulda still won like my friend said here. and dallas they are an alright team.. but beating the pats when they are hot, that says it all.. so as i'm saying to you even if sd owns this matchup, denver does not run the ball as much anymore, they throw the ball around and that is something sd is horrible at, like we saw what the steelers did to them but finallly the steelers d gave up at the end of the game.. soo that being said you are the one betting like a chump and not thinking.. we actualllly think before we make out wagers..
    good luck to all
     
    MoneyMan214
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2009 - 3:31 AM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by pizoniballer31:

    Vue.... Dealing with average chump bookies are better then chilling at the wynn in vegas?Please explain....lol....Pro-z i'm not hating i'm just stating stop crying wolf with how much coin your dropping on each game.Your not a high roller lol... Also nothing's wrong with internet gambling to.Most peeps are'nt near casinos....Okay back to this game.Most "experts" picked SD to win the superbowl before the season started.Ladanian has been hurt and also Shawn Merriman.They will be back at full strength on monday.3-1 against DEN the last 3 seasons.
     
     
    -3.5 SD all the way
     
    Final Scoare San Diego 31 Denver 17
     
     What's that sound?It's the sound of all you chumps losing your money lol....Good Luck...Don't pick like a square

    SD
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    Quote Originally Posted by pizoniballer31:

    Vue.... Dealing with average chump bookies are better then chilling at the wynn in vegas?Please explain....lol....Pro-z i'm not hating i'm just stating stop crying wolf with how much coin your dropping on each game.Your not a high roller lol... Also nothing's wrong with internet gambling to.Most peeps are'nt near casinos....Okay back to this game.Most "experts" picked SD to win the superbowl before the season started.Ladanian has been hurt and also Shawn Merriman.They will be back at full strength on monday.3-1 against DEN the last 3 seasons.
     
     
    -3.5 SD all the way
     
    Final Scoare San Diego 31 Denver 17
     
     What's that sound?It's the sound of all you chumps losing your money lol....Good Luck...Don't pick like a square

    SD
     
    ewillie169
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2009 - 3:40 AM ET #22

    If anything, the Chargers are now playing for respect. They'll want to prove that they're still the kings of the AFC West. They'll also have a raucous crowd supporting them under the lights. 

    I'm leaning toward San Diego here, but a lean is all it is. On paper, the Broncos should win this game, but football is a game of emotion. Emotion will definitely be on the Chargers' side on Monday night. 

    SD -3, Score: Bolts 26-Broncos 21
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    If anything, the Chargers are now playing for respect. They'll want to prove that they're still the kings of the AFC West. They'll also have a raucous crowd supporting them under the lights. 

    I'm leaning toward San Diego here, but a lean is all it is. On paper, the Broncos should win this game, but football is a game of emotion. Emotion will definitely be on the Chargers' side on Monday night. 

    SD -3, Score: Bolts 26-Broncos 21
     
    ewillie169
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2009 - 3:44 AM ET #23

    I forgot to mention.... a 5-0 team (DEN) getting 3.5 points at San Diego. This line is beggin you to take the undefeated Broncos.....Therefore the Chargers are the play this. Den will also be a little flat after the huge win over the Pats not to mention the Bolts are coming off a bye. Love it
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    I forgot to mention.... a 5-0 team (DEN) getting 3.5 points at San Diego. This line is beggin you to take the undefeated Broncos.....Therefore the Chargers are the play this. Den will also be a little flat after the huge win over the Pats not to mention the Bolts are coming off a bye. Love it
     
    Davidscott40
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2009 - 3:47 AM ET #24

    I'll take BOTH team's offensive personnel over each team's Defensive personnel (especially with SD D injuries).....
    TOTAL OVER 44

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    I'll take BOTH team's offensive personnel over each team's Defensive personnel (especially with SD D injuries).....
    TOTAL OVER 44

     
     
    HanoiBoi
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2009 - 9:49 AM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by vue21849:

      Yo-Bro! Chill out Pizoniballer 3.1 Stop leaning on my arab friend, Pro Z! So the man brags a little. All decent cappers like to brag a little- no harm done.  I live in New York and between here and Ontario, there are plenty of bookies that will take your action! In fact, more bets are made out in the street, than in Vegas, all season long.  I've been checking out this guys record, and it's OK to me! This forum, is to help each other out to make winning wagers- not a freakin' war zone,bro!!


    Vue, where can you check out other people's records?  Also, where can I post my picks to be available as a 'record'?  I tried looking for pro-z's record, but what I found was mostly baseball.

    pro-z, in another thread, I saw where you actually asked people if they'd please stop harassing you (or something like that).  It's great that you have opinions on games, and even better if you have a wonderful winning percentage, but I think the way you post is what turns some people off.  When you come straight out and tell people they are wrong, they will lose their money and you will laugh at them when they do, it kinda comes off as offensive.

    If you are here to help others see what you see when capping a game (which I believe this site is primarily for) then please tell us the factors that you are making your decisions with.  We're all ears.

    I for one would much rather hear why someone likes a team ATS than simply that they like the team ATS.

    It's like the old saying; "Give the man a fish and he'll eat for a day...."

    Share the knowledge, boys!
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    Quote Originally Posted by vue21849:

      Yo-Bro! Chill out Pizoniballer 3.1 Stop leaning on my arab friend, Pro Z! So the man brags a little. All decent cappers like to brag a little- no harm done.  I live in New York and between here and Ontario, there are plenty of bookies that will take your action! In fact, more bets are made out in the street, than in Vegas, all season long.  I've been checking out this guys record, and it's OK to me! This forum, is to help each other out to make winning wagers- not a freakin' war zone,bro!!


    Vue, where can you check out other people's records?  Also, where can I post my picks to be available as a 'record'?  I tried looking for pro-z's record, but what I found was mostly baseball.

    pro-z, in another thread, I saw where you actually asked people if they'd please stop harassing you (or something like that).  It's great that you have opinions on games, and even better if you have a wonderful winning percentage, but I think the way you post is what turns some people off.  When you come straight out and tell people they are wrong, they will lose their money and you will laugh at them when they do, it kinda comes off as offensive.

    If you are here to help others see what you see when capping a game (which I believe this site is primarily for) then please tell us the factors that you are making your decisions with.  We're all ears.

    I for one would much rather hear why someone likes a team ATS than simply that they like the team ATS.

    It's like the old saying; "Give the man a fish and he'll eat for a day...."

    Share the knowledge, boys!
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