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Denver at Carolina (12/14/2008)

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Away:  Denver [4-8-1 ATS]
Home:  Carolina [7-5-1 ATS]

Game Time: 4:15 PM
Stadium: Bank of America Stadium

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Team Leaders:

Denver:
Passing: Jay Cutler (3679)
Rushing: Peyton Hillis (343)
Receiving: Brandon Marshall (1033)

Carolina:
Passing: Jake Delhomme (2596)
Rushing: DeAngelo Williams (1141)
Receiving: Steve Smith (1075)

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after what i saw tonite, there is no stopping Carolina.  run game and pass game too much for the Broncs!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Bronco's can't stop the run...one of the worst run d's in the league
Carolina just pounded a pretty solid run D on Monday and should look to find similar success against Denver.

Not sure if I am liking the points in this yet tho, Denver is one of the weird teams that you never know what you will get.

Unless I find something dramatic I will be taking Carolina on the ML

still more to find out tho...
 
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Good call Icon...Broncos have burned once or twice this year....Will Jessica Cutler break a nail in this one and have to sit out? Ugh I hate the broncos! Another game without a ton of value, but it looks like the panthers have put it back together again. 10 point win seems about right. I agree take them ML or maybe look to tease.
 
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As a matter of fact......Panthers -3 teased with Giants +9 looks tasty!
 
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Denver rush d not so good as said above against a Car team that loves to play at home and pounded the ball down TB throat. Den will end up having to throw their way out of a deficit. Cutler might throw at least 4 tds... Maybe 2 of them will actually be to DEN recievers.
Could see Denver on a backdoor cover however, but wouldn't put any on it. Denver has played out of character this year by covering 4 of 6 spreads on the road and in games they weren't spose to...
Not a big teaser guy, but i'll tease CAR/OVER
 
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Is Denver truely getting +9  Give me the Broncos and I'll take a little ML on that.
 
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I feel the same way I did with Carolina on MNF at home in the first half and leaning on taking them again.
 
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Denver has covered and won SU the two times as road dogs (Atl and NYJ)... both times in the same price range...
 
but come on!  this team is so overmatched in this game... Denver is one of the 6 or 7 worst teams in football, and the matchups in this game are absolutely horrible for them... i think people are seeing value in Denver due to their record, their ability to cover as dogs, and the fact that Carolina is coming off a big Monday night win... but i think the only thing its doing is keeping the line much lower than it should be... there is a 14 point difference between these two in Carolina... if i can get Car (-7) even by buying it down i won't hesitate...
 
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Man this is a messed up line.
 
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Nothin could be finer, than takin Carolina!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Denver Broncos +9
 
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I like the Broncos +9 as well........
 
yeah the Panthers are going to run the ball....
 
and yeah they will most likely stay undefeated at home....
 
but +9??????
 
Cutler is too good to give that many points.... plus their defense is FINALLY healthy.....
 
plus you have Royal who is a TD threat whenever he touches the ball on special teams.... at any point that kid can return one all the way, then all of a sudden your down 16.....
 
They have Champ Bailey back and the way Delhomme throws picks you can safely figure on one or two... he will be 1 on 1 with Smith by the way.... thats going to be a good match-up..... then you have that Carolina Tight end whats his name keeps dropping balls....
 
I think the Broncos will be able to put up a decent amount of points.... Garcia and Bryant played well against their secondary.... what makes you think Cutler and Marshall and Royal won't play equally as well....
 
They have been playing great on the road as of late beating up on the JETS and FALCONS....
 
I'll take the points all day.... figuring the Broncos can put up at least 21-28.....
 
 
Broncos +9
 
 
but go Deangelo Williams.... (I have him in Fantasy)
 
 
 
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28 and 34 on Panthers gonna run all day.... Panthers -7.5 .
GL 31- 17 Panthers. If Broncos get lucky to get those points. lol
 
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if you look at the numbers from CAR running over TB on MNF and comparing them to DEN season run D #'s you're kidding yourself.
 
1) TB just didn't tackle on MNF. 2 yard runs w/ contact at line of scrimmage in addition to open field missed tackles turned numerous 2 yard runs into 20+ yard runs. Panthers run numbers are so juiced from last week, highly inflated.
 
2) look at what DEN did to ATL, arguably one of the best run teams in the league...and they did it on the road. you can't stop a solid run attact like that by accident. Defense, and especially run D can be taught, and fixed, and change from game to game. Effort is a huge factor against the run.
 
3) the line is shaded considering the Panthers performance on national TV in a division title game.
 
For those reasons there is nice value on DEN in this game.
 
I'm not a Broncos fan, but as a Chargers guy I've watched a lot of AFC West games with much interest. I was also 11-1 ATS picking broncos games last year, not that it matters (I know I know )
 
Anyways, DEN but wait to see how high the line goes
 
BOL this week.
 
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Carolina starting to turn it up a bit now. lookin like the Super Bowl contender alot of so called experts picked. I like the Panthers to cover but I LOVE the over! BOL to all
 
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line value true is a good deal, but Carolina may need this for HF so maybe that over-rides the value as they may come out and crush Broncs.  Denver is crappy and the number is high to take play away from Panthers, imo.  could be a win and no cover situation but Denver has no urgency, Carolina has.
 
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This one is simple for me.
 
You have the NFC South leader Carolina playing a home game, with Tampa and Atlanta breathing down their neck uncomfortably.
 
Carolina is 7 - 0 infront of the Home Crowd.
 
Coach Fox has re-discovered Identity and Theft... along with the greatest little man Steve Smith.
 
Even with Champ, there is no D in Enver.
 
My book has it at -7 1/2.. so i am buying the hook...
 
Carolina -7
 
Go Batman and Robin !
 
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Quote Originally Posted by crazycarlitos:

This one is simple for me.
 
You have the NFC South leader Carolina playing a home game, with Tampa and Atlanta breathing down their neck uncomfortably.
 
Carolina is 7 - 0 infront of the Home Crowd.
 
Coach Fox has re-discovered Identity and Theft... along with the greatest little man Steve Smith.
 
Even with Champ, there is no D in Enver.
 
My book has it at -7 1/2.. so i am buying the hook...
 
Carolina -7
 
Go Batman and Robin !

Homer?

 
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FOUND MY TEASE OF THE WEEK!
 
PANTHERS -1 + Jets -1.5  3 UNITS
 
 
 
 
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Will also buy half point and take....
 
PANTHERS -6.5 3 UNITS
 
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GO BRONCOS +14.5Big.
 
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Taking Panthers on the short week bought the hook to -7 should be a push at worst
 
BOL
 
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Quote Originally Posted by DiscoD69:

if you look at the numbers from CAR running over TB on MNF and comparing them to DEN season run D #'s you're kidding yourself.
 
1) TB just didn't tackle on MNF. 2 yard runs w/ contact at line of scrimmage in addition to open field missed tackles turned numerous 2 yard runs into 20+ yard runs. Panthers run numbers are so juiced from last week, highly inflated.
 
2) look at what DEN did to ATL, arguably one of the best run teams in the league...and they did it on the road. you can't stop a solid run attact like that by accident. Defense, and especially run D can be taught, and fixed, and change from game to game. Effort is a huge factor against the run.
 
3) the line is shaded considering the Panthers performance on national TV in a division title game.
 
For those reasons there is nice value on DEN in this game.
 
I'm not a Broncos fan, but as a Chargers guy I've watched a lot of AFC West games with much interest. I was also 11-1 ATS picking broncos games last year, not that it matters (I know I know )
 
Anyways, DEN but wait to see how high the line goes
 
BOL this week.

The line has DROPPED down to 8. . . We all know what that means, don't  we??? Hence, smart money play here!

 
 
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I'm like the Broncos on the ml.....seems like the kinda game they win!  They beat the Flacons at home and the Bucs in Denver this year.  They seem to the have the NFC South's #
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