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    Cleveland at Pittsburgh (12/28/2008)

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    Mr_Covers
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2008 - 2:59 AM ET #1

    Away:  Cleveland [6-8-1 ATS]
    Home:  Pittsburgh [8-7 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Heinz Field

    Recent Meetings:
    09/14/08 - PIT 10 vs. CLE 6

    Team Leaders:

    Cleveland:
    Passing: Derek Anderson (1615)
    Rushing: Jamal Lewis (908)
    Receiving: Braylon Edwards (872)

    Pittsburgh:
    Passing: Ben Roethlisberger (3204)
    Rushing: Willie Parker (673)
    Receiving: Hines Ward (977)

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    Away:  Cleveland [6-8-1 ATS]
    Home:  Pittsburgh [8-7 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Heinz Field

    Recent Meetings:
    09/14/08 - PIT 10 vs. CLE 6

    Team Leaders:

    Cleveland:
    Passing: Derek Anderson (1615)
    Rushing: Jamal Lewis (908)
    Receiving: Braylon Edwards (872)

    Pittsburgh:
    Passing: Ben Roethlisberger (3204)
    Rushing: Willie Parker (673)
    Receiving: Hines Ward (977)

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    dddevin69
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2008 - 3:37 AM ET #2

    Pitt -11 is alot of points.  But Cleveland sucks.  and It's cold in Pitt. Plus PItt is coming off an embarassing loss.  You can probably play a drinking game with each hard hit the Pitt D will inflict on this Cleveland team and each Turnover that will be made by Cleveland.
     
     
    I would stay away from this one.  But if someone put a gun to my had.....I guess I would have to go with Pitt to cover. 
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    Pitt -11 is alot of points.  But Cleveland sucks.  and It's cold in Pitt. Plus PItt is coming off an embarassing loss.  You can probably play a drinking game with each hard hit the Pitt D will inflict on this Cleveland team and each Turnover that will be made by Cleveland.
     
     
    I would stay away from this one.  But if someone put a gun to my had.....I guess I would have to go with Pitt to cover. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2008 - 1:01 PM ET #3

    Hello All,
     
    I enjoy the insight you each provied every week. I think you can name the number here and Steelers cover. Weather could factor in but with Pitts getting embarrassed last week. They will want to go into the bye week with a big impressive win even if it is only over the Clowns.
     
    Good luck to everyone.
     
     
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    Hello All,
     
    I enjoy the insight you each provied every week. I think you can name the number here and Steelers cover. Weather could factor in but with Pitts getting embarrassed last week. They will want to go into the bye week with a big impressive win even if it is only over the Clowns.
     
    Good luck to everyone.
     
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2008 - 6:50 PM ET #4


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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2008 - 10:04 PM ET #5

    11 points just doesn't seem like enough, does it?? The Brownies got skunked by the Bengals last week - AT HOME!!!! I can only imagine what the Steelers are going to do to them playing on the road this week....
    Even if the Steelers play their second string guys the entire game, I still don't think the Browns come within 2 touchdowns.......

    Who's Ken Dorsey, by the way? Never heard of him - HA!!!
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    11 points just doesn't seem like enough, does it?? The Brownies got skunked by the Bengals last week - AT HOME!!!! I can only imagine what the Steelers are going to do to them playing on the road this week....
    Even if the Steelers play their second string guys the entire game, I still don't think the Browns come within 2 touchdowns.......

    Who's Ken Dorsey, by the way? Never heard of him - HA!!!
     
    SteelPride44
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2008 - 11:47 PM ET #6

    Just watched the local news...
     
    Tomlin wants his guys to play but the guys who were banged up dont count on it, Timmons will proli start for Harrison..which Timmons is a very solid fill in, Tyrone Carter in for Ryan Clark(possibly out for remainder). If Ben plays it will probably be just the first half. Mewelde Moore will get the majority of the carries. It all depends on how the first half goes i suppose...I look for the steelers to get back to steeler football and run the ball and have Ben/Leftwich throw maybe 20 passes. Weather isnt supposed to be terrible but that changes about every five minutes, so im not gonna give you guys a shitty weather report like i get everyday..it will most likely rain or snow because thats all it does in western PA if that helps
     
    Hopefully that helps you guys...and BOL
     
    Ill go with the under and possibly parlay it with Pitt...i know its the end of the year, but as a hardcore steeler fan i could sure go for som double d Dennis Dixon just for shits and giggles
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    Just watched the local news...
     
    Tomlin wants his guys to play but the guys who were banged up dont count on it, Timmons will proli start for Harrison..which Timmons is a very solid fill in, Tyrone Carter in for Ryan Clark(possibly out for remainder). If Ben plays it will probably be just the first half. Mewelde Moore will get the majority of the carries. It all depends on how the first half goes i suppose...I look for the steelers to get back to steeler football and run the ball and have Ben/Leftwich throw maybe 20 passes. Weather isnt supposed to be terrible but that changes about every five minutes, so im not gonna give you guys a shitty weather report like i get everyday..it will most likely rain or snow because thats all it does in western PA if that helps
     
    Hopefully that helps you guys...and BOL
     
    Ill go with the under and possibly parlay it with Pitt...i know its the end of the year, but as a hardcore steeler fan i could sure go for som double d Dennis Dixon just for shits and giggles
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2008 - 7:40 AM ET #7

    Moore is almost starter caliber with what hes done this year.... the Steelers 2nd stringers vs. the Browns starters but... Dorsey is a 3rd stringer so lets cap it for what it is...
     
     
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    Moore is almost starter caliber with what hes done this year.... the Steelers 2nd stringers vs. the Browns starters but... Dorsey is a 3rd stringer so lets cap it for what it is...
     
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2008 - 4:44 PM ET #8

    pitt will cover i dont think cleveland will score a touchdown maybe 1 feild goal. 27-3
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    pitt will cover i dont think cleveland will score a touchdown maybe 1 feild goal. 27-3
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2008 - 6:16 PM ET #9

    I would for half and see
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    I would for half and see
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2008 - 11:49 PM ET #10

    I loaded up on Cincy vs. Cleveland last week....it was the easiest pick of the year for me. Tease Pitt down to -5 and you cover even if Pitt only musters a couple scores. Cleveland O has all but quit this year. Pitt 2nd stringers will be looking to make the most out of some playing time.
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    I loaded up on Cincy vs. Cleveland last week....it was the easiest pick of the year for me. Tease Pitt down to -5 and you cover even if Pitt only musters a couple scores. Cleveland O has all but quit this year. Pitt 2nd stringers will be looking to make the most out of some playing time.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 25, 2008 - 11:51 AM ET #11

    Pittsburgh - 20                  Cleveland - 7
    Steelers -10.5              under 32
    Any other team I would probably bet against the Steelers, but since it's the Browns, I don't think the Steelers will need any motivation for this one. Steelers at home off SU favorite loss seems like a safe bet here.
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    Pittsburgh - 20                  Cleveland - 7
    Steelers -10.5              under 32
    Any other team I would probably bet against the Steelers, but since it's the Browns, I don't think the Steelers will need any motivation for this one. Steelers at home off SU favorite loss seems like a safe bet here.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 25, 2008 - 4:32 PM ET #12

    Bruce Gradkowski is the starter for Cleveland at QB this week..
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    Bruce Gradkowski is the starter for Cleveland at QB this week..
     
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    Posted: Dec. 26, 2008 - 12:53 AM ET #13

    Steelers minus the points.  Browns are finished.
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    Steelers minus the points.  Browns are finished.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 26, 2008 - 1:18 PM ET #14

    Fishy line.  With new qb for cleveland.  I am going to ride with the browns + 10.5 not a big play though
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    Fishy line.  With new qb for cleveland.  I am going to ride with the browns + 10.5 not a big play though
     
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    Posted: Dec. 26, 2008 - 4:49 PM ET #15

    Cleveland wont even score.
    Steelers should win and cover no problem.  Browns have no passing game and no running game in this one how can they even keep this close????  This game should be over by the half .
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    Cleveland wont even score.
    Steelers should win and cover no problem.  Browns have no passing game and no running game in this one how can they even keep this close????  This game should be over by the half .
     
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    Posted: Dec. 26, 2008 - 6:15 PM ET #16

    Hey Guys,
    I live in Cleveland and a few of my friends are Browns. Please take my advice and take the Steelers BIG!!! The Browns are done and looking to get out of C-town for the off season, and Steelers backup and third stringer is better than Gradcowski or whatever his name is. If they stop Cribbs the Browns will not score a O-TD for the 6th straight game.
    gl everybody. 
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    Hey Guys,
    I live in Cleveland and a few of my friends are Browns. Please take my advice and take the Steelers BIG!!! The Browns are done and looking to get out of C-town for the off season, and Steelers backup and third stringer is better than Gradcowski or whatever his name is. If they stop Cribbs the Browns will not score a O-TD for the 6th straight game.
    gl everybody. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2008 - 12:15 AM ET #17

    man what are you saying if it was that easy then vegas wouldnt put this game for bet... what do u mean cleavland are done?!? ok they are not in the playoffs but that dosent mean they are not going to play... anything can happen and to be honest i think cleavland will cover.
     
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    man what are you saying if it was that easy then vegas wouldnt put this game for bet... what do u mean cleavland are done?!? ok they are not in the playoffs but that dosent mean they are not going to play... anything can happen and to be honest i think cleavland will cover.
     
    pit -10
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2008 - 1:23 AM ET #18

    I cant see how browns will keep this within two touchdowns, but they will get a late td and probably cover only because 72% are on pitt.....
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    I cant see how browns will keep this within two touchdowns, but they will get a late td and probably cover only because 72% are on pitt.....
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2008 - 11:31 AM ET #19

    Pittsburgh Steelers -11
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    Pittsburgh Steelers -11
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2008 - 11:57 AM ET #20

    I live in Cleveland too, it's not that the players are going to quit, it's just that - unlike the Lions - they have nothing to play for.  Steelers 27-12.
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    I live in Cleveland too, it's not that the players are going to quit, it's just that - unlike the Lions - they have nothing to play for.  Steelers 27-12.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2008 - 12:01 PM ET #21

    bro so what if you live in cleavland?!? sooo i live in detroit that does not mean detroit is gonna lose?!? ma man every year a week before the playoffs teams play hard and tough for stats look for cleavland to cover and like w8lifter said just because alot of people bet on pits, the late touchdown will come.
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    bro so what if you live in cleavland?!? sooo i live in detroit that does not mean detroit is gonna lose?!? ma man every year a week before the playoffs teams play hard and tough for stats look for cleavland to cover and like w8lifter said just because alot of people bet on pits, the late touchdown will come.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2008 - 12:02 PM ET #22

    i am no smart ass either but think about it hard and long
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    i am no smart ass either but think about it hard and long
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2008 - 2:37 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by pro-z:

    bro so what if you live in cleavland?!? sooo i live in detroit that does not mean detroit is gonna lose?!? ma man every year a week before the playoffs teams play hard and tough for stats look for cleavland to cover and like w8lifter said just because alot of people bet on pits, the late touchdown will come.

    Living in Cleveland doesn't dictate the score at all.  However, there is something to be said for those who follow the local teams day in and day out, see what is happening with the team, the coaching staff, and how guys are performing.  I live in Cleveland too, and I agree that this is a HUGE play on Pitt even at -11.  Cleveland has not scored an offensive touchdown in 5 WEEKS - that's right, 5 WEEKS.  They are down to their 4th string QB, Gradkowski, who looked awful in relief of Dorsey last week and is not yet comfortable with the offense nor does he know the personnel well.  Josh Cribbs is reportedly going to get significant action at QB but has really not played the position since college.  Jamal Lewis has clearly lost a step, and the offensive line is underachieving in a big way.  THEY HAVE ZERO OFFENSE.  Despite the players publicly backing him, Crennel has lost this team and they clearly quit last week against Cincy.  Pittsburgh's backups playing a majority of the game don't bother me, because it would be a miracle if Cleveland scores more than 7-10 points. 

    Trust me, go with Pittsburgh and reap the rewards.

     

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    bro so what if you live in cleavland?!? sooo i live in detroit that does not mean detroit is gonna lose?!? ma man every year a week before the playoffs teams play hard and tough for stats look for cleavland to cover and like w8lifter said just because alot of people bet on pits, the late touchdown will come.

    Living in Cleveland doesn't dictate the score at all.  However, there is something to be said for those who follow the local teams day in and day out, see what is happening with the team, the coaching staff, and how guys are performing.  I live in Cleveland too, and I agree that this is a HUGE play on Pitt even at -11.  Cleveland has not scored an offensive touchdown in 5 WEEKS - that's right, 5 WEEKS.  They are down to their 4th string QB, Gradkowski, who looked awful in relief of Dorsey last week and is not yet comfortable with the offense nor does he know the personnel well.  Josh Cribbs is reportedly going to get significant action at QB but has really not played the position since college.  Jamal Lewis has clearly lost a step, and the offensive line is underachieving in a big way.  THEY HAVE ZERO OFFENSE.  Despite the players publicly backing him, Crennel has lost this team and they clearly quit last week against Cincy.  Pittsburgh's backups playing a majority of the game don't bother me, because it would be a miracle if Cleveland scores more than 7-10 points. 

    Trust me, go with Pittsburgh and reap the rewards.

     

     
    bustn2night
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2008 - 8:43 PM ET #24

    Love the stillers here. Weather is fine here tonight. It's also warm 70 today. Look for a more wide open game but clev has problems getting any points so no over here.
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    Love the stillers here. Weather is fine here tonight. It's also warm 70 today. Look for a more wide open game but clev has problems getting any points so no over here.
     
     
    bobsugar5
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2008 - 8:57 PM ET #25

    Sup fellas...I have to like Pitt -7 first half with the Curtain feasting on a 4th string qb directing an "attack" that hasnt produced a TD in FIVE WEEKS...amazing stat there Holdem, thanks man.
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    Sup fellas...I have to like Pitt -7 first half with the Curtain feasting on a 4th string qb directing an "attack" that hasnt produced a TD in FIVE WEEKS...amazing stat there Holdem, thanks man.
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