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    Cleveland at Baltimore (09/27/2012)

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    BloodyShredder
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2012 - 4:46 PM ET #76

    Cleveland D is better than most people think.  Public perception is the only reason this line is so high.

    BROWNS +12

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    Cleveland D is better than most people think.  Public perception is the only reason this line is so high.

    BROWNS +12

     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2012 - 5:05 PM ET #77

    Quote Originally Posted by BloodyShredder:

    Cleveland D is better than most people think.  Public perception is the only reason this line is so high.

    BROWNS +12


    Without Joe Haden it is not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BloodyShredder:

    Cleveland D is better than most people think.  Public perception is the only reason this line is so high.

    BROWNS +12


    Without Joe Haden it is not.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2012 - 5:09 PM ET #78

    Browns +13 and Under.

    Ravens tired (agree with the 4 games in 18 days point), Browns D can hold its own. Think this game goes the way these rivalry games tend to. Baltimore should win but won't cover, too many points.

    My one hesitation is that with all the dogs covering or outright winning, we're more than due for some regression to the mean.
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    Browns +13 and Under.

    Ravens tired (agree with the 4 games in 18 days point), Browns D can hold its own. Think this game goes the way these rivalry games tend to. Baltimore should win but won't cover, too many points.

    My one hesitation is that with all the dogs covering or outright winning, we're more than due for some regression to the mean.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2012 - 5:24 PM ET #79

    Cleveland has played the same amount of games in just 1 more days time so stop making a big deal out of it.  
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    Cleveland has played the same amount of games in just 1 more days time so stop making a big deal out of it.  
     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2012 - 5:28 PM ET #80

     a couple of TDS & a few FGS from both  teams will keep the gm  close & tip over

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     a couple of TDS & a few FGS from both  teams will keep the gm  close & tip over

     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2012 - 5:29 PM ET #81

    Dhumber, quite apt, if I may be so bold. I too had GB, but the idea that  Vegas mobsters put the fix in is frankly laughable. If they could control the games as you intimate, then the clever sports traders would spot the pattern and jump in, the markets would collapse and the people would stop betting.

    No, we both lost our bets because Jennings should have batted the ball down and he didn't. We lost because offensive pass interference wasn't called. We didn't lose because some wise guys put the fix in. 

     

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    Dhumber, quite apt, if I may be so bold. I too had GB, but the idea that  Vegas mobsters put the fix in is frankly laughable. If they could control the games as you intimate, then the clever sports traders would spot the pattern and jump in, the markets would collapse and the people would stop betting.

    No, we both lost our bets because Jennings should have batted the ball down and he didn't. We lost because offensive pass interference wasn't called. We didn't lose because some wise guys put the fix in. 

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2012 - 6:12 PM ET #82

    Bullshit Gunter,I  like how this is your first ever post and you come out with this bullshit. PRobably a paid propaganda agent for the NFL or The Sands. Corruption is alive and well just take a look at Congress they are all corrupt. These temp refs are more susceptable to corruption as they have nothing to lose but their jobs.  

    Check it out at the fixisin.net   you can see  how the flag prone Raiders only had three penalties  and how the Vikings last week only had one penalty while their competition got hammered with penalties. How convenient with over 73% of the public on the Steelers and Niners.

    Get lost Cunter you paid fucking troll !!

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    Bullshit Gunter,I  like how this is your first ever post and you come out with this bullshit. PRobably a paid propaganda agent for the NFL or The Sands. Corruption is alive and well just take a look at Congress they are all corrupt. These temp refs are more susceptable to corruption as they have nothing to lose but their jobs.  

    Check it out at the fixisin.net   you can see  how the flag prone Raiders only had three penalties  and how the Vikings last week only had one penalty while their competition got hammered with penalties. How convenient with over 73% of the public on the Steelers and Niners.

    Get lost Cunter you paid fucking troll !!

     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2012 - 6:29 PM ET #83

    Brownies by 7
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    Brownies by 7
     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2012 - 6:32 PM ET #84

    The perfect storm of penalties that led to the Seahawks win and cover was obvious and agregious.1. Roughing the quarterback to nullify the interception. 2. Pass interference to get them in range when the one doing the interference was Seattle hanging all over the defender. 3. The call that will live in infamy, The two finger reception. 

    The NFL for ratings purposes has the legal right to tell refs what to do as NFL is classified as entertainment. Just like WWF. So for ratings purposes in a multi billion dollar industry they have and will continue to manipulate the games. So for nationally broadcast games I will be refraining from betting most of those. 

    The only difference between the replacement refs and the regular ones is that the replacements are not as slick at it and secondly, they are more open to bribes. Whereas, the regular refs are just beholden to the Commissioner for rating purposes mainly.
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    The perfect storm of penalties that led to the Seahawks win and cover was obvious and agregious.1. Roughing the quarterback to nullify the interception. 2. Pass interference to get them in range when the one doing the interference was Seattle hanging all over the defender. 3. The call that will live in infamy, The two finger reception. 

    The NFL for ratings purposes has the legal right to tell refs what to do as NFL is classified as entertainment. Just like WWF. So for ratings purposes in a multi billion dollar industry they have and will continue to manipulate the games. So for nationally broadcast games I will be refraining from betting most of those. 

    The only difference between the replacement refs and the regular ones is that the replacements are not as slick at it and secondly, they are more open to bribes. Whereas, the regular refs are just beholden to the Commissioner for rating purposes mainly.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2012 - 6:33 PM ET #85

    While I fear a letdown after that win against New England, i'm siding with Baltimore here.  Joe Flacco is for real.  Just like Eli ascended into the elite echelon of quarterbacks last year, so too will Flacco this one.  Their offense has been clicking all season, and with Pitt being good as always and a dangerous Cincy team, Baltimore cannot take this game lightly.  I see a 35-13 type game here.  With how easy Baltimore picked apart the New England D I would have to side slightly with the over.  The juice scares me but Baltimore routed a really tough Bengals team and don't seem to play poorly in Baltimore.  GL everybody
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    While I fear a letdown after that win against New England, i'm siding with Baltimore here.  Joe Flacco is for real.  Just like Eli ascended into the elite echelon of quarterbacks last year, so too will Flacco this one.  Their offense has been clicking all season, and with Pitt being good as always and a dangerous Cincy team, Baltimore cannot take this game lightly.  I see a 35-13 type game here.  With how easy Baltimore picked apart the New England D I would have to side slightly with the over.  The juice scares me but Baltimore routed a really tough Bengals team and don't seem to play poorly in Baltimore.  GL everybody
     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2012 - 6:44 PM ET #86

    The NFL arguing that regular refs can be ''benched for poor performance'' is an example.  What they are really saying is that if they dont make the desired calls they can be punished. 
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    The NFL arguing that regular refs can be ''benched for poor performance'' is an example.  What they are really saying is that if they dont make the desired calls they can be punished. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2012 - 7:06 PM ET #87

    I agree with you completely OC_sharp949 DO NOT OVERTHINK IT.  Everyone is clearly reeling form the GreenBay robbery, get over it. It lead to second guessing yourself hence taking the points but not me.  There is a reason the spread is 13. NFL referees are back, but if the replacements were still in the game forcast?  I would of taken the points or no-play. Reality is the short week affects the road team in this matchup. And all I can visualize is Baltimore up 7 and the inevitable pick 6 Weeden is due to throw today. Rule of thumb from fellow gamblers is double digit spread take the points, i only agree with that if that underdog is at home not on the road.  Baltimore in a blowout.  Jesus do any of you remember what Ravens did to Bengals?  Bengals were a lot better than Browns and their ass got blownout.  NFL LIVE:C'MON MAN!  Browns won't have the help of Referee's incompetence tonight to cover the 13 points.  Baltimore-13 
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    I agree with you completely OC_sharp949 DO NOT OVERTHINK IT.  Everyone is clearly reeling form the GreenBay robbery, get over it. It lead to second guessing yourself hence taking the points but not me.  There is a reason the spread is 13. NFL referees are back, but if the replacements were still in the game forcast?  I would of taken the points or no-play. Reality is the short week affects the road team in this matchup. And all I can visualize is Baltimore up 7 and the inevitable pick 6 Weeden is due to throw today. Rule of thumb from fellow gamblers is double digit spread take the points, i only agree with that if that underdog is at home not on the road.  Baltimore in a blowout.  Jesus do any of you remember what Ravens did to Bengals?  Bengals were a lot better than Browns and their ass got blownout.  NFL LIVE:C'MON MAN!  Browns won't have the help of Referee's incompetence tonight to cover the 13 points.  Baltimore-13 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2012 - 7:16 PM ET #88

    Baltimore - 28                                          Cleveland - 23

    Browns +12                                         over 44

    Only if the Ravens play this one vanilla.(which I'm hoping they will). Browns find a way to get in the endzone a few times. The double digits look good here. Pronk's Browns for me

    Cleveland - Over.

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    Baltimore - 28                                          Cleveland - 23

    Browns +12                                         over 44

    Only if the Ravens play this one vanilla.(which I'm hoping they will). Browns find a way to get in the endzone a few times. The double digits look good here. Pronk's Browns for me

    Cleveland - Over.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2012 - 7:23 PM ET #89

    Quote Originally Posted by pronk:

    Brownies ( LOSE ) by 7

                                              

                                               

     Give you 15 - 1 Odds against Brownies by  7
    This was late  season game via short prep aft physical Pats game would prob take 13 .
    Legs are fresh + bottom line  # 4 power rated team vs bottom dwellin' # 32.
    With Flacco stock on rise , fine tunin' hurry up O
    = Ravens points.
    Brownies lucky to score more than 13, Ravens should hit 31
    Back door closing tic BS concerns.
    ProRefs on the job, Goodel redemption apology  : 
     let em' play  without  BS penalties.
    Over under 8 penalties anyone ?

    Juicy Payoff plays : 
    Ravens bet. 13 - 18 Pts @ 5 - 1 = 2 $
     31 Pts or more  @ 9-1 = 1 $
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    3 K to Net Cool K ML play
    RAVENS-CARDS-TEXANS
    $ingle bet

    B O L A 


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    Quote Originally Posted by pronk:

    Brownies ( LOSE ) by 7

                                              

                                               

     Give you 15 - 1 Odds against Brownies by  7
    This was late  season game via short prep aft physical Pats game would prob take 13 .
    Legs are fresh + bottom line  # 4 power rated team vs bottom dwellin' # 32.
    With Flacco stock on rise , fine tunin' hurry up O
    = Ravens points.
    Brownies lucky to score more than 13, Ravens should hit 31
    Back door closing tic BS concerns.
    ProRefs on the job, Goodel redemption apology  : 
     let em' play  without  BS penalties.
    Over under 8 penalties anyone ?

    Juicy Payoff plays : 
    Ravens bet. 13 - 18 Pts @ 5 - 1 = 2 $
     31 Pts or more  @ 9-1 = 1 $
    +
    3 K to Net Cool K ML play
    RAVENS-CARDS-TEXANS
    $ingle bet

    B O L A 


     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2012 - 7:25 PM ET #90



     Cheers Mon Colonel  !

         

                BOL
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     Cheers Mon Colonel  !

         

                BOL
     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2012 - 7:37 PM ET #91

    I know many posters/gamblers don't like teasers as much as I do... But this game screams for it...

    Cleveland +17.5 and under 50 is a very easy handle to pull... The line has moved 3 points and I love home underdogs on prime time. Baltimore has had two games where ejections should have taken place (Philly, NE) with the real refs coming back, expect them to take some of the raw emotion and mold it into frustrations. That should keep their offense in neutral most of the game...Cleveland will rely on Brandon Wheeden and the worst wr's in football to move Bernard Pollard back and out the box to let Trent Richardson open up, that gives me some doubt about their ability to move the ball consistently. 

    Those two factors sold me on the under and the game being close...17.5 points is a huge number, do I need to expand?

    CLEVELAND+17.5. UNDER 50 (-110)

    CLEVELAND +17.5 open teaser (play it with another game over the weekend)
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    I know many posters/gamblers don't like teasers as much as I do... But this game screams for it...

    Cleveland +17.5 and under 50 is a very easy handle to pull... The line has moved 3 points and I love home underdogs on prime time. Baltimore has had two games where ejections should have taken place (Philly, NE) with the real refs coming back, expect them to take some of the raw emotion and mold it into frustrations. That should keep their offense in neutral most of the game...Cleveland will rely on Brandon Wheeden and the worst wr's in football to move Bernard Pollard back and out the box to let Trent Richardson open up, that gives me some doubt about their ability to move the ball consistently. 

    Those two factors sold me on the under and the game being close...17.5 points is a huge number, do I need to expand?

    CLEVELAND+17.5. UNDER 50 (-110)

    CLEVELAND +17.5 open teaser (play it with another game over the weekend)
     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2012 - 7:38 PM ET #92

    Un 45  -130
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    Un 45  -130
     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2012 - 7:49 PM ET #93

    some late steam on the line down to -11.0 but Ravens still 2:1 favorites.....Vegas trying to grab those last suckers....
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    some late steam on the line down to -11.0 but Ravens still 2:1 favorites.....Vegas trying to grab those last suckers....
     
    roofdog03
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2012 - 7:51 PM ET #94

    5 pt.tease    ravens and the over
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    5 pt.tease    ravens and the over
     
    yes_ima_noob
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2012 - 7:56 PM ET #95

    This is the best defense Brandon Weeden will have faced in his entire career. In three games he has 3 TD's vs. 6 INT's which tell me that Ed Reed who already has 2 INT's on the season will likely get his third. I read a statement on this thread earlier that stated Trent Richardson is a breakout RB...3.5 yards per carry doesn't say breakout especially against the front 7 of the Baltimore Ravens. Ray Rice is averaging 5.8 yards per carry and Flacco is coming into his own with the no huddle. Torrey Smith will still be playing with a little emotion before burying his little brother. The real refs are back and the Ravens veteran secondary will play the receivers tighter than and better than the Browns defense can. Yes, the Ravens are up in age, but keep in mind the game is at home AND Sunday's game was at home so I don't think the short turn around will be that much of a factor. I think they will look forward to the long weekend more. The Ravens last two games against quality opponents were both decided by 1 point. Champions beat the people they're suppose to beat the way they're suppose to beat them...With that said, Ravens are thinking Championship, no let down here.

    Give me Ray-Ray, Flacco, and the D for -11.5
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    This is the best defense Brandon Weeden will have faced in his entire career. In three games he has 3 TD's vs. 6 INT's which tell me that Ed Reed who already has 2 INT's on the season will likely get his third. I read a statement on this thread earlier that stated Trent Richardson is a breakout RB...3.5 yards per carry doesn't say breakout especially against the front 7 of the Baltimore Ravens. Ray Rice is averaging 5.8 yards per carry and Flacco is coming into his own with the no huddle. Torrey Smith will still be playing with a little emotion before burying his little brother. The real refs are back and the Ravens veteran secondary will play the receivers tighter than and better than the Browns defense can. Yes, the Ravens are up in age, but keep in mind the game is at home AND Sunday's game was at home so I don't think the short turn around will be that much of a factor. I think they will look forward to the long weekend more. The Ravens last two games against quality opponents were both decided by 1 point. Champions beat the people they're suppose to beat the way they're suppose to beat them...With that said, Ravens are thinking Championship, no let down here.

    Give me Ray-Ray, Flacco, and the D for -11.5
     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2012 - 8:04 PM ET #96

     Salute, mon e-pics. The quote doesn't seem to work anymore so I haven't been responding much. Watch out senor e-pics the Brownies have the secret weapon, Lou the toe Groza, waiting to kick that old fashioned straight ahead field goal for the cover. Your right my friend the Brownies have no buisness winning or covering this game. In fact the Ravens could run the table right up to Thanksgiving.

    Good Luck Amigo,

    Bluephinn must be chomping at the bit waiting for the puck to drop. Pre-season games canceled.

     

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     Salute, mon e-pics. The quote doesn't seem to work anymore so I haven't been responding much. Watch out senor e-pics the Brownies have the secret weapon, Lou the toe Groza, waiting to kick that old fashioned straight ahead field goal for the cover. Your right my friend the Brownies have no buisness winning or covering this game. In fact the Ravens could run the table right up to Thanksgiving.

    Good Luck Amigo,

    Bluephinn must be chomping at the bit waiting for the puck to drop. Pre-season games canceled.

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2012 - 8:08 PM ET #97

    cleveland   + 11 point guy
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    cleveland   + 11 point guy
     
    mellowman7883
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2012 - 8:08 PM ET #98

    Quote Originally Posted by yes_ima_noob:

    This is the best defense Brandon Weeden will have faced in his entire career. In three games he has 3 TD's vs. 6 INT's which tell me that Ed Reed who already has 2 INT's on the season will likely get his third. I read a statement on this thread earlier that stated Trent Richardson is a breakout RB...3.5 yards per carry doesn't say breakout especially against the front 7 of the Baltimore Ravens. Ray Rice is averaging 5.8 yards per carry and Flacco is coming into his own with the no huddle. Torrey Smith will still be playing with a little emotion before burying his little brother. The real refs are back and the Ravens veteran secondary will play the receivers tighter than and better than the Browns defense can. Yes, the Ravens are up in age, but keep in mind the game is at home AND Sunday's game was at home so I don't think the short turn around will be that much of a factor. I think they will look forward to the long weekend more. The Ravens last two games against quality opponents were both decided by 1 point. Champions beat the people they're suppose to beat the way they're suppose to beat them...With that said, Ravens are thinking Championship, no let down here.

    Give me Ray-Ray, Flacco, and the D for -11.5

    I love the post, lots of information. Browns also lost one of their recievers. I agree Baltimore should blow them the fuck out. That being said, not betting this nationally televised game. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by yes_ima_noob:

    This is the best defense Brandon Weeden will have faced in his entire career. In three games he has 3 TD's vs. 6 INT's which tell me that Ed Reed who already has 2 INT's on the season will likely get his third. I read a statement on this thread earlier that stated Trent Richardson is a breakout RB...3.5 yards per carry doesn't say breakout especially against the front 7 of the Baltimore Ravens. Ray Rice is averaging 5.8 yards per carry and Flacco is coming into his own with the no huddle. Torrey Smith will still be playing with a little emotion before burying his little brother. The real refs are back and the Ravens veteran secondary will play the receivers tighter than and better than the Browns defense can. Yes, the Ravens are up in age, but keep in mind the game is at home AND Sunday's game was at home so I don't think the short turn around will be that much of a factor. I think they will look forward to the long weekend more. The Ravens last two games against quality opponents were both decided by 1 point. Champions beat the people they're suppose to beat the way they're suppose to beat them...With that said, Ravens are thinking Championship, no let down here.

    Give me Ray-Ray, Flacco, and the D for -11.5

    I love the post, lots of information. Browns also lost one of their recievers. I agree Baltimore should blow them the fuck out. That being said, not betting this nationally televised game. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2012 - 8:14 PM ET #99

    Shout out to the Canadian and BreakaBookie!!!! Breaka I am right there with regarding one of the worst starts ever!!

     

    Baltimore Ravens (1H) -7

     

    Funny story at lunch yesterday and one of the female sales reps sheepishly says" who saw that crazy game this weekend" several of the guys responded at the same time "which one",,,,,, she was talking about Monday night,,,,, anyways everyone smiled and I realized I was not the only one getting their assets kicked so far this season.

    Cheers and BOLTALL!!

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    Shout out to the Canadian and BreakaBookie!!!! Breaka I am right there with regarding one of the worst starts ever!!

     

    Baltimore Ravens (1H) -7

     

    Funny story at lunch yesterday and one of the female sales reps sheepishly says" who saw that crazy game this weekend" several of the guys responded at the same time "which one",,,,,, she was talking about Monday night,,,,, anyways everyone smiled and I realized I was not the only one getting their assets kicked so far this season.

    Cheers and BOLTALL!!

     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2012 - 9:58 PM ET #100

    uuuuugh the worst start continues

     

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    uuuuugh the worst start continues

     

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