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    Cleveland at Baltimore (09/27/2009)

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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2009 - 1:53 AM ET #1

    Away:  Cleveland [0-2 ATS]
    Home:  Baltimore [2-0 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: M&T Bank Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
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    Team Leaders:

    Cleveland:
    Passing: Brady Quinn (366)
    Rushing: Jamal Lewis (95)
    Receiving: Braylon Edwards (104)

    Baltimore:
    Passing: Joe Flacco (497)
    Rushing: Ray Rice (144)
    Receiving: Kelley Washington (101)

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    Away:  Cleveland [0-2 ATS]
    Home:  Baltimore [2-0 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: M&T Bank Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
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    Team Leaders:

    Cleveland:
    Passing: Brady Quinn (366)
    Rushing: Jamal Lewis (95)
    Receiving: Braylon Edwards (104)

    Baltimore:
    Passing: Joe Flacco (497)
    Rushing: Ray Rice (144)
    Receiving: Kelley Washington (101)

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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2009 - 10:42 AM ET #2

    13 is too many for a divisional rivalry game..  Bad blood between these teams,  Baltimore will win but I doubt they cover 13.
    Low Score also.
     
    Bal 16 - Cle 9
     
    GLA - had a negative week in week 2 need to rebound!!!!
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    13 is too many for a divisional rivalry game..  Bad blood between these teams,  Baltimore will win but I doubt they cover 13.
    Low Score also.
     
    Bal 16 - Cle 9
     
    GLA - had a negative week in week 2 need to rebound!!!!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2009 - 11:43 AM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by NoBetNoWin:

    13 is too many for a divisional rivalry game..  Bad blood between these teams,  Baltimore will win but I doubt they cover 13.
    Low Score also.
     
    Bal 16 - Cle 9
     
    GLA - had a negative week in week 2 need to rebound!!!!

    going by whats gone on thus far this season, u couldnt be more  wrong my friend. Browns offense is offensive with Quinn at qb and "sweet dunbar" pretending 2 still be a running back. not being able 2 score on Denver is a major cause 4 concern, and if Dumervill goes Derrick Thomas on u, what do u think T Sizzle and co have in store? As for the under, this aint da Ravens of yesteryear buddy. Alotta point givin 2 both K.C as well as S. Diego, not 2 mention an all of a sudden powerful Flacco led O. I say the OVER is the bet here, maybe DumbGini can get a couple tdz, a J. Cribbs special or wut have u. look 4 B More 2 score 24-28 minimun, and that D 2 leak a lil in da 2nd half. BOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoBetNoWin:

    13 is too many for a divisional rivalry game..  Bad blood between these teams,  Baltimore will win but I doubt they cover 13.
    Low Score also.
     
    Bal 16 - Cle 9
     
    GLA - had a negative week in week 2 need to rebound!!!!

    going by whats gone on thus far this season, u couldnt be more  wrong my friend. Browns offense is offensive with Quinn at qb and "sweet dunbar" pretending 2 still be a running back. not being able 2 score on Denver is a major cause 4 concern, and if Dumervill goes Derrick Thomas on u, what do u think T Sizzle and co have in store? As for the under, this aint da Ravens of yesteryear buddy. Alotta point givin 2 both K.C as well as S. Diego, not 2 mention an all of a sudden powerful Flacco led O. I say the OVER is the bet here, maybe DumbGini can get a couple tdz, a J. Cribbs special or wut have u. look 4 B More 2 score 24-28 minimun, and that D 2 leak a lil in da 2nd half. BOL

     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2009 - 1:13 PM ET #4

    13 is NOT too much to cover. Ravens won by 14 against the Chiefs, who actually have legit offensive players unlike the Browns. Game would have been much worse if not for a blocked punt TD and a pick returned to the 6. Bal covered a big number last year in their home game vs. the clowns. The Browns offense is just pathetic this year, and Quinn is very turnover prone. With Ed Reed back there duping Quinn into a pick or 2, and the slow Jamal Lewis being shut down by his former team, I think the Brows will be lucky to score 10 points. And Flacco can actually pass well this year, with Heap being back to his old self.
     
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    13 is NOT too much to cover. Ravens won by 14 against the Chiefs, who actually have legit offensive players unlike the Browns. Game would have been much worse if not for a blocked punt TD and a pick returned to the 6. Bal covered a big number last year in their home game vs. the clowns. The Browns offense is just pathetic this year, and Quinn is very turnover prone. With Ed Reed back there duping Quinn into a pick or 2, and the slow Jamal Lewis being shut down by his former team, I think the Brows will be lucky to score 10 points. And Flacco can actually pass well this year, with Heap being back to his old self.
     
    Ravens -13
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2009 - 4:29 PM ET #5

        This game has all signs of an easy blowout for the Ravens. With Baltimore having all the positives and the Brownies having all the negatives, I wouldn't be too surprised the # doesn't climb to 13.5 to 14! Ravens just missed getting to the big show LY.  My Best Bet (and I hate eating Chalk!!   
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        This game has all signs of an easy blowout for the Ravens. With Baltimore having all the positives and the Brownies having all the negatives, I wouldn't be too surprised the # doesn't climb to 13.5 to 14! Ravens just missed getting to the big show LY.  My Best Bet (and I hate eating Chalk!!   
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2009 - 6:16 PM ET #6

    Ravens win no doubt but cover 13 points? 
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    Ravens win no doubt but cover 13 points? 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2009 - 7:45 PM ET #7

    Dont be afraid of the -13, the ravens had 9 wins by double digits in 2008, and they are even better this year with improved O.  While the browns are probably worse, Ravens were in this exact same spot in 08 season it was CLE @ Bal week 3 the result of that game was 28-10 Balt it should be a similar result this year all things taken into account.
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    Dont be afraid of the -13, the ravens had 9 wins by double digits in 2008, and they are even better this year with improved O.  While the browns are probably worse, Ravens were in this exact same spot in 08 season it was CLE @ Bal week 3 the result of that game was 28-10 Balt it should be a similar result this year all things taken into account.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2009 - 9:07 PM ET #8

    Wow 13?!?!?! - I think that's too many, even for the Steamers.........
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    Wow 13?!?!?! - I think that's too many, even for the Steamers.........
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2009 - 5:22 AM ET #9

    ravens at home playing the browns........JACKPOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    ravens at home playing the browns........JACKPOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2009 - 1:00 PM ET #10

    Tackle SLOW footed Lewis running up the middle, double  team B. Edwards, Don't kick to Cribbs ... Am I missing anything ?
    One thing for sure, The Browns WILL CONTINUE TO BE WITHOUT AN OFFENSIVE TOUCHDOWN, After WEEK 3
    This Browns team is horrendous and clueless...RAVENS ROLL, with a defensive TD to boot....
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    Tackle SLOW footed Lewis running up the middle, double  team B. Edwards, Don't kick to Cribbs ... Am I missing anything ?
    One thing for sure, The Browns WILL CONTINUE TO BE WITHOUT AN OFFENSIVE TOUCHDOWN, After WEEK 3
    This Browns team is horrendous and clueless...RAVENS ROLL, with a defensive TD to boot....
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2009 - 7:45 PM ET #11

    Sounds real easy to beat Cleveland especially considering the ravens have played so far.  I had the Ravens last week as my pick of the week but this week i am leaning towards Cleveland.  The just had a huge game at San Diego and who do they play next week?  New England

    This is the perfect trap game as cleveland who desperately needs a win to stay alive in the division.  they will play harder and will probably be even more physical.  I like the Browns to cover the number

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    Sounds real easy to beat Cleveland especially considering the ravens have played so far.  I had the Ravens last week as my pick of the week but this week i am leaning towards Cleveland.  The just had a huge game at San Diego and who do they play next week?  New England

    This is the perfect trap game as cleveland who desperately needs a win to stay alive in the division.  they will play harder and will probably be even more physical.  I like the Browns to cover the number

    Browns +13
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2009 - 8:31 PM ET #12

    I can't remember how many times I bet Pitts or Balt to smash the Browns and end up losing money... I'l gladly take the 13 here. GL
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    I can't remember how many times I bet Pitts or Balt to smash the Browns and end up losing money... I'l gladly take the 13 here. GL
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2009 - 9:15 PM ET #13

    NFL WORST, CLEV, vs NFL BEST, BALT. Mangini is gone(watter bottle fine??). Blow out of the day. Could (should) be Balt by 30 Plus
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    NFL WORST, CLEV, vs NFL BEST, BALT. Mangini is gone(watter bottle fine??). Blow out of the day. Could (should) be Balt by 30 Plus
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2009 - 10:10 PM ET #14

    Baltimore - 23                         Cleveland - 17
    Browns +13                   over 38.5
    Brady Quinn and the Browns slowly get their act together.
    Take the 13 and hope for the Browns defense keeps the Ravens in check....
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    Baltimore - 23                         Cleveland - 17
    Browns +13                   over 38.5
    Brady Quinn and the Browns slowly get their act together.
    Take the 13 and hope for the Browns defense keeps the Ravens in check....
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2009 - 10:59 AM ET #15

    i'm not touching this game. everyone is jumping on baltimore and thats how vegas makes cash ill watch it but ill stay away save my money to take the giants by 7.5
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    i'm not touching this game. everyone is jumping on baltimore and thats how vegas makes cash ill watch it but ill stay away save my money to take the giants by 7.5
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2009 - 1:59 PM ET #16

    OVER!!!
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    OVER!!!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2009 - 2:16 PM ET #17

    Cleveland +13
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    Cleveland +13
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2009 - 3:09 PM ET #18

    1) too many points to give a wounded animal in a divisional game against a team coming home off a quality road win.

    2) as good as the ravens are this year, it's more due to their offense taking a step forward as their defense has been passed on by the chiefs and chargers.  They lost a few key guys on D to rex ryan and the jets, and while they are a more balanced team now, their defense will let up more points in comparison to past years than their offense will spot them in addition to past years.

    3) 72% of money on baltimore, yet the line moved down from +14 to +13.

    CLE +13 (wait until game time to hopefully get it back at +14)
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    1) too many points to give a wounded animal in a divisional game against a team coming home off a quality road win.

    2) as good as the ravens are this year, it's more due to their offense taking a step forward as their defense has been passed on by the chiefs and chargers.  They lost a few key guys on D to rex ryan and the jets, and while they are a more balanced team now, their defense will let up more points in comparison to past years than their offense will spot them in addition to past years.

    3) 72% of money on baltimore, yet the line moved down from +14 to +13.

    CLE +13 (wait until game time to hopefully get it back at +14)
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2009 - 6:15 PM ET #19

    i watched cleveland play last week they are seriously garbage i think baltimore defense stacks up some points here
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    i watched cleveland play last week they are seriously garbage i think baltimore defense stacks up some points here
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2009 - 11:12 PM ET #20

    ravens are too good, cleveland won't be able to keep up.  brady quinn sucks and will score for the other team.  ravens -13
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    ravens are too good, cleveland won't be able to keep up.  brady quinn sucks and will score for the other team.  ravens -13
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2009 - 4:45 AM ET #21

    cleveland is god aweful , abut seems like alot of points, just sit back and watch... who in their right mind would put $ on Cleveland here
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    cleveland is god aweful , abut seems like alot of points, just sit back and watch... who in their right mind would put $ on Cleveland here
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2009 - 12:12 PM ET #22

    Going down to the wire.  Clev for me.
     
     
     
     
     
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    Going down to the wire.  Clev for me.
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2009 - 5:37 PM ET #23

    Browns +13
     
    Historically NFL teams that are 0-2 ATS cover against teams 2-0 ATS.
     
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    Ravens have been hearing how great they are and Cleveland has been hearing how terrible they are. Well guess who is going to be more MOTIVATED for this one.
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    Browns +13
     
    Historically NFL teams that are 0-2 ATS cover against teams 2-0 ATS.
     
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    Ravens have been hearing how great they are and Cleveland has been hearing how terrible they are. Well guess who is going to be more MOTIVATED for this one.
     
    bustn2night
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2009 - 12:18 AM ET #24

    I don't see anything going right for Cleve Brownies in this one. This counter trap ooooh there pissed now is pissing in the wind. Take the pro's not the schmoes  RAVENS by 19
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    I don't see anything going right for Cleve Brownies in this one. This counter trap ooooh there pissed now is pissing in the wind. Take the pro's not the schmoes  RAVENS by 19
     
     
    kyunman
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2009 - 3:07 AM ET #25

    YTD 2-1
    ML 0-2
     
    Browns 9
    Ravens 27
     
    Ravens are good in red zone scoring and the Browns are not.
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    YTD 2-1
    ML 0-2
     
    Browns 9
    Ravens 27
     
    Ravens are good in red zone scoring and the Browns are not.
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