The NYGiants are reeling having lost their L-2 games. Now they face a Bears team fresh off wins at Dallas and vs Green Bay at home on MNF. I don't see a line yet so I'll just go with the Bears Money Line.
Pick = Bears-ML
My Guesstimate = Bears-24 NYGiants-20
The NYGiants are reeling having lost their L-2 games. Now they face a Bears team fresh off wins at Dallas and vs Green Bay at home on MNF. I don't see a line yet so I'll just go with the Bears Money Line.
Da Bears are 3-1 SU and ATS in the L-4 vs the NYGiants including 2-0 SU and ATS at the Giants/Jets stadium... whatever it's called. The Bears were +1 and +9 in those wins in New Jersey. Go back further and note that the Bears are 5-2 SU and ATS vs the NYGiants in the L-7 meetings.
Crazy huh?
Quote Originally Posted by ClassyAnski:
Da Bears are 3-1 SU and ATS in the L-4 vs the NYGiants including 2-0 SU and ATS at the Giants/Jets stadium... whatever it's called. The Bears were +1 and +9 in those wins in New Jersey. Go back further and note that the Bears are 5-2 SU and ATS vs the NYGiants in the L-7 meetings.
AM I missing something here,you got to be nuts"ss, did you see what happen Monday Night it looks like your going to the poor house take two of these and call me in the morning
Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Insight:
Giants by 13
AM I missing something here,you got to be nuts"ss, did you see what happen Monday Night it looks like your going to the poor house take two of these and call me in the morning
i'm calling shennanegins on this one. Bears are the only 3-0 team in the AFC and the giants public stock is very low after back to back blowouts, but there are other issues afoot which are pushing me towards the giants...
g-men will be fired up to play the only undefeated team in their conference and the coaches will spend a LOT of time perfecting a solid game plan against this top tier team.
some variables at work:
CJ ran for 125, but on 32 carries, so the giants held him under 4 yards per carry, no small feat. I think that an inferior bears running attack will struggle to maintain an offensive balance which will put this game on cutler's back and while he could do it, I still see him throwing at least one pick and the Bears have looked vulnerable to a pass rush which will make mistakes more likely as he continues to take hits. Just look at how hard detroit made it on him in week one and i know detroit's d-line is improved, but it's not in the conversation as the giants personnel on d-line.
Giants played a very good pass defense who capitalized on some sloppy play, but it's not like the giants couldn't do anything. I saw a eli manning throw for 386 yards on an elite secondary with a lot of pressure and a giants squad run for 105 on 19 carries, looking very good in the run game, but lacked opportunities to maintain their success on the ground due to 2 hugely costly turnovers that did not allow them to stay in the game late and forced them to keep throwing as they played on their heels. If eli doesn't get cute at the goal line having delusions of brett favre that game could have a very different complexion.
They are still an elite offense, and I think that they have enough working for them on defense to get an inspired home effort that makes the difference. It's not time to write them off yet. I believe in their offense more than i believe in chicago's still and their defense isn't inferior enough at relevant positions to be enough of an edge to overcome the giant's offense.
I like betting on the home team off a home loss, and i love betting the team off a big in division home win, especially beating a team everyone picked to play the cowboys in the NFC title game.
The Bear's stock is too high and the Giants stock is too low for that spread to mean anything other than vegas is making another highly calculated risk, claiming that the giants will beat the bears by a touchdown, and knowing what I know about this matchup, I believe them.
I will wait before booking it and just research the little things, but I think i'm going
GIANTS -4
i'm calling shennanegins on this one. Bears are the only 3-0 team in the AFC and the giants public stock is very low after back to back blowouts, but there are other issues afoot which are pushing me towards the giants...
g-men will be fired up to play the only undefeated team in their conference and the coaches will spend a LOT of time perfecting a solid game plan against this top tier team.
some variables at work:
CJ ran for 125, but on 32 carries, so the giants held him under 4 yards per carry, no small feat. I think that an inferior bears running attack will struggle to maintain an offensive balance which will put this game on cutler's back and while he could do it, I still see him throwing at least one pick and the Bears have looked vulnerable to a pass rush which will make mistakes more likely as he continues to take hits. Just look at how hard detroit made it on him in week one and i know detroit's d-line is improved, but it's not in the conversation as the giants personnel on d-line.
Giants played a very good pass defense who capitalized on some sloppy play, but it's not like the giants couldn't do anything. I saw a eli manning throw for 386 yards on an elite secondary with a lot of pressure and a giants squad run for 105 on 19 carries, looking very good in the run game, but lacked opportunities to maintain their success on the ground due to 2 hugely costly turnovers that did not allow them to stay in the game late and forced them to keep throwing as they played on their heels. If eli doesn't get cute at the goal line having delusions of brett favre that game could have a very different complexion.
They are still an elite offense, and I think that they have enough working for them on defense to get an inspired home effort that makes the difference. It's not time to write them off yet. I believe in their offense more than i believe in chicago's still and their defense isn't inferior enough at relevant positions to be enough of an edge to overcome the giant's offense.
I like betting on the home team off a home loss, and i love betting the team off a big in division home win, especially beating a team everyone picked to play the cowboys in the NFC title game.
The Bear's stock is too high and the Giants stock is too low for that spread to mean anything other than vegas is making another highly calculated risk, claiming that the giants will beat the bears by a touchdown, and knowing what I know about this matchup, I believe them.
I will wait before booking it and just research the little things, but I think i'm going
CHICAGO is 0-12 away vs nfc non div opp off non div su ats loss. They are 0-11 if above 500 vs opp off bb su losses.they are 0-9 dogs 6 points vs opp off bb losses.And CHICAGO is 0-9 dogs vs non div opp off a su fav loss GMEN lost to the TITANS last week they were -3.BEARS are0-9 0ff bb su wins of 10pts or less vs non div opp with revenge GMEN beat them in 2007 21-16.Stats and trends are from Marc Lawrence black book 2010.
CHICAGO is 0-12 away vs nfc non div opp off non div su ats loss. They are 0-11 if above 500 vs opp off bb su losses.they are 0-9 dogs 6 points vs opp off bb losses.And CHICAGO is 0-9 dogs vs non div opp off a su fav loss GMEN lost to the TITANS last week they were -3.BEARS are0-9 0ff bb su wins of 10pts or less vs non div opp with revenge GMEN beat them in 2007 21-16.Stats and trends are from Marc Lawrence black book 2010.
bears sucked on the road last season. they beat dallas only because dallas beat themselves. alaso do not base your pick for this game on what bears did monday might. lovey smith has had a hard on vs the packers since he started coaching the bears so if anything it appears a letdown in giants hometown come sunday is inevitable.
bears sucked on the road last season. they beat dallas only because dallas beat themselves. alaso do not base your pick for this game on what bears did monday might. lovey smith has had a hard on vs the packers since he started coaching the bears so if anything it appears a letdown in giants hometown come sunday is inevitable.
CHICAGO is 0-12 away vs nfc non div opp off non div su ats loss. They are 0-11 if above 500 vs opp off bb su losses.they are 0-9 dogs 6 points vs opp off bb losses.And CHICAGO is 0-9 dogs vs non div opp off a su fav loss GMEN lost to the TITANS last week they were -3.BEARS are0-9 0ff bb su wins of 10pts or less vs non div opp with revenge GMEN beat them in 2007 21-16.Stats and trends are from Marc Lawrence black book 2010.
This game is an INT party or what.
Quote Originally Posted by greek04champs:
CHICAGO is 0-12 away vs nfc non div opp off non div su ats loss. They are 0-11 if above 500 vs opp off bb su losses.they are 0-9 dogs 6 points vs opp off bb losses.And CHICAGO is 0-9 dogs vs non div opp off a su fav loss GMEN lost to the TITANS last week they were -3.BEARS are0-9 0ff bb su wins of 10pts or less vs non div opp with revenge GMEN beat them in 2007 21-16.Stats and trends are from Marc Lawrence black book 2010.
man i dont know here. this seems like one of those NFL games that happen all the time. everything points to taking the bears. a few things scare me with that. the giants are backed into a corner here fighting for their season and some jobs. the bears are also coming off a short week and going on the road. they are 3 n 0 but they really got luvky last week in my mind with greenbay having all those penaltys. i`ll probally stay away from this one boys...
GL
man i dont know here. this seems like one of those NFL games that happen all the time. everything points to taking the bears. a few things scare me with that. the giants are backed into a corner here fighting for their season and some jobs. the bears are also coming off a short week and going on the road. they are 3 n 0 but they really got luvky last week in my mind with greenbay having all those penaltys. i`ll probally stay away from this one boys...
Giants -3 and a hook. Da bears are overrated cause of those GB and Cowgirl games, who both looked terrible. Remember he Detriot game that the Lions actually won?
Gaints -3.5
Giants -3 and a hook. Da bears are overrated cause of those GB and Cowgirl games, who both looked terrible. Remember he Detriot game that the Lions actually won?
it looks like your going to the poor house
take two of these and call me in the morning
the Bear"ss
miss it.
either way... giants -3.5
I love public perception and the line! Take the Bears- clearly the superior team here against the pathetic G- Men!
GL
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