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    Chicago at Detroit (12/05/2010)

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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2010 - 1:22 AM ET #1

    Away:  Chicago [6-4-1 ATS]
    Home:  Detroit [7-4 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Ford Field

    Recent Meetings:
    09/12/10 - DET 14 vs. CHI 19

    Team Leaders:

    Chicago:
    Passing: Jay Cutler (2311)
    Rushing: Matt Forte (684)
    Receiving: Johnny Knox (740)

    Detroit:
    Passing: Shaun Hill (2206)
    Rushing: Jahvid Best (390)
    Receiving: Calvin Johnson (806)

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    Away:  Chicago [6-4-1 ATS]
    Home:  Detroit [7-4 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Ford Field

    Recent Meetings:
    09/12/10 - DET 14 vs. CHI 19

    Team Leaders:

    Chicago:
    Passing: Jay Cutler (2311)
    Rushing: Matt Forte (684)
    Receiving: Johnny Knox (740)

    Detroit:
    Passing: Shaun Hill (2206)
    Rushing: Jahvid Best (390)
    Receiving: Calvin Johnson (806)

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    TheQuadYeah
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2010 - 2:25 PM ET #2

    Wow, just 3.5 points? I thought it would open at like 6.5 or even 7. Another fishy line here - I'm staying away from this game
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    Wow, just 3.5 points? I thought it would open at like 6.5 or even 7. Another fishy line here - I'm staying away from this game
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2010 - 5:35 PM ET #3

    CHICAGO  - 3.5

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    CHICAGO  - 3.5

     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2010 - 5:38 PM ET #4

    Nothing fishy about the line, books know Chicago barely got by Detroit in week 1, on a questionable call at that, and think public will remember. The thing is this is a much improved Bears team and will want to dispel any lingering doubts about that game. I look for Bears to demolish Lions tightening their grip on the NFC Central.
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    Nothing fishy about the line, books know Chicago barely got by Detroit in week 1, on a questionable call at that, and think public will remember. The thing is this is a much improved Bears team and will want to dispel any lingering doubts about that game. I look for Bears to demolish Lions tightening their grip on the NFC Central.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2010 - 2:11 PM ET #5

    Detroit starting 3rd string QB.  Bears strength is defense.  One rule I usually play by that cashes in very often.  When a 3rd string QB starts against a solid defense, I go against the QB.

    In this case Stanton played pretty well in his only extended action of the year, and Lions covered in the loss to the Giants.  HOWEVER, Stanton did come off the bench to replace Hill in that game.  Meaning, the Giants did not gameplan all week for Stanton.  Huge difference.   Now the Bears know Stanton will start and can gameplan pressure, etc to magnify his weaknesses.  And with the line at -3.5...buying the half point and taking the Bears.

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    Detroit starting 3rd string QB.  Bears strength is defense.  One rule I usually play by that cashes in very often.  When a 3rd string QB starts against a solid defense, I go against the QB.

    In this case Stanton played pretty well in his only extended action of the year, and Lions covered in the loss to the Giants.  HOWEVER, Stanton did come off the bench to replace Hill in that game.  Meaning, the Giants did not gameplan all week for Stanton.  Huge difference.   Now the Bears know Stanton will start and can gameplan pressure, etc to magnify his weaknesses.  And with the line at -3.5...buying the half point and taking the Bears.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2010 - 2:19 PM ET #6

    BTW...here's Stanton's 2009 totals (his only significant playing time before this year)...

    QB Rating -   26.1

    Completion % -   51%  (26 of 51)

    Yards -  259

    TDs -  0

    INTs -  6  (INT every 8.5 passes)

    Sacked -  5 times  (sack every 10 passes)

    In every way do these stats tell me the 3rd string QB rule against a good defense is in play here.   Bears -3 (buying 1/2) large

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    BTW...here's Stanton's 2009 totals (his only significant playing time before this year)...

    QB Rating -   26.1

    Completion % -   51%  (26 of 51)

    Yards -  259

    TDs -  0

    INTs -  6  (INT every 8.5 passes)

    Sacked -  5 times  (sack every 10 passes)

    In every way do these stats tell me the 3rd string QB rule against a good defense is in play here.   Bears -3 (buying 1/2) large

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2010 - 9:51 PM ET #7

    Lions +2 1st half.
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    Lions +2 1st half.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2010 - 10:49 PM ET #8

    I like the Over 45    
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    I like the Over 45    
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2010 - 11:32 AM ET #9

    I like Chi and the under

    Chi 24- Det 9

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    I like Chi and the under

    Chi 24- Det 9

     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2010 - 3:27 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuadYeah:

    Wow, just 3.5 points? I thought it would open at like 6.5 or even 7. Another fishy line here - I'm staying away from this game

     

    I see the line has moved up to +5, but you know what? Cutler's still Cutler, and he's overdue for one of those 5 interception games where he also gets knocked down like 7 times, and sacked twice. Coming off of a high from the Eagles win, this is the perfect storm for one of those types of games.

    LIONS

     - {money}

    + - {plus}

    ------------------------ - {line}

    = - {equals}

     - {happy me}

     

    just a small play though

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuadYeah:

    Wow, just 3.5 points? I thought it would open at like 6.5 or even 7. Another fishy line here - I'm staying away from this game

     

    I see the line has moved up to +5, but you know what? Cutler's still Cutler, and he's overdue for one of those 5 interception games where he also gets knocked down like 7 times, and sacked twice. Coming off of a high from the Eagles win, this is the perfect storm for one of those types of games.

    LIONS

     - {money}

    + - {plus}

    ------------------------ - {line}

    = - {equals}

     - {happy me}

     

    just a small play though

     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2010 - 4:40 PM ET #11

    While Detroit may mot win this here against Chicago...

    (they have lost the last 3 ATS- after starting 6-1  )

    Da Bears are a Red Hot 4-0 after a Halloween bye. Defeating Buff by 3...throttled Childress and the Vikes...Dolphins 16-0. And they're coming off a rather impressive win vs. Philly (but in hind sight the Eagles were ripe for a letdown) As they had defeated Indy, NYG, Houston and the Skins in this same 5 game span. 

    Recently Detroit dropped one they shouldn't have to the J-E-T-S, were the Bills first victory, outplayed by Dallas and New England in the 2nd half.  The Lions had a few extra days to prepare for this one.  Add a dash of revenge to the pot....

    I'm gonna wait and see if this number climbs higher then 5.5....also patiently waiting for a Lion TT Over (18.5, 19?)

    BOL


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    While Detroit may mot win this here against Chicago...

    (they have lost the last 3 ATS- after starting 6-1  )

    Da Bears are a Red Hot 4-0 after a Halloween bye. Defeating Buff by 3...throttled Childress and the Vikes...Dolphins 16-0. And they're coming off a rather impressive win vs. Philly (but in hind sight the Eagles were ripe for a letdown) As they had defeated Indy, NYG, Houston and the Skins in this same 5 game span. 

    Recently Detroit dropped one they shouldn't have to the J-E-T-S, were the Bills first victory, outplayed by Dallas and New England in the 2nd half.  The Lions had a few extra days to prepare for this one.  Add a dash of revenge to the pot....

    I'm gonna wait and see if this number climbs higher then 5.5....also patiently waiting for a Lion TT Over (18.5, 19?)

    BOL


     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2010 - 3:54 PM ET #12

    bears -5
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    bears -5
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2010 - 6:35 PM ET #13

    DET IS 9-56 ATS OFF A LOSS AT HOME THEY LOST TO THE PATS ON TURKEY DAY.STATS AND TRENDS FROM MARC LAWRENCE NFL PLAYBOOK 2006.
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    DET IS 9-56 ATS OFF A LOSS AT HOME THEY LOST TO THE PATS ON TURKEY DAY.STATS AND TRENDS FROM MARC LAWRENCE NFL PLAYBOOK 2006.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2010 - 7:49 PM ET #14

    No write up needed, other than this:
    Stanton is TERRIBLE (don't be surprised to see Zac Robinson)
    Peppers will have a field day
     
    Chi -4 (I always buy the hook)
    Parlay: Chi and the Under
     
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    Parlay: Bears ml // Auburn ml HUUUUUGE!!!!
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    No write up needed, other than this:
    Stanton is TERRIBLE (don't be surprised to see Zac Robinson)
    Peppers will have a field day
     
    Chi -4 (I always buy the hook)
    Parlay: Chi and the Under
     
    My Biggest play in months:
    Parlay: Bears ml // Auburn ml HUUUUUGE!!!!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2010 - 7:52 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by hockeytown71:

    No write up needed, other than this:
    Stanton is TERRIBLE (don't be surprised to see Zac Robinson)
    Peppers will have a field day
     
    Chi -4 (I always buy the hook)
    Parlay: Chi and the Under
     
    My Biggest play in months:
    Parlay: Bears ml // Auburn ml HUUUUUGE!!!!
    By the way, I did post this in the Auburn / S.C. thread well before that game kicked off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hockeytown71:

    No write up needed, other than this:
    Stanton is TERRIBLE (don't be surprised to see Zac Robinson)
    Peppers will have a field day
     
    Chi -4 (I always buy the hook)
    Parlay: Chi and the Under
     
    My Biggest play in months:
    Parlay: Bears ml // Auburn ml HUUUUUGE!!!!
    By the way, I did post this in the Auburn / S.C. thread well before that game kicked off.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2010 - 8:59 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by vue21849:

    CHICAGO  - 3.5



    PHEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Hahahahaha! 
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    Quote Originally Posted by vue21849:

    CHICAGO  - 3.5



    PHEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Hahahahaha! 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 1:44 AM ET #17

    Detroit/Chicago OVER 43
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    Detroit/Chicago OVER 43
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 3:09 AM ET #18

    Line is at -5.5 now.  Still a very fishy line.  I see the bears winning by more that a td.  But bears could be on a let down.  on the other hand, 3rd string qb for detroit against bears D...  take the bears!
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    Line is at -5.5 now.  Still a very fishy line.  I see the bears winning by more that a td.  But bears could be on a let down.  on the other hand, 3rd string qb for detroit against bears D...  take the bears!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 3:54 AM ET #19

    I woulda never guessed the Bears would have a better record than the Pack at this time of the season especially after that Giant game when they sacked Cutler about 20 times and they still lost to Seattle & Washington since then           - Lions could get it going one of these years and it looked as if it coulda been this one as they got screwed in what 3 early games? They have some pieces on offense although they are too banged up to hang against this D today -- Chicago -4.5
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    I woulda never guessed the Bears would have a better record than the Pack at this time of the season especially after that Giant game when they sacked Cutler about 20 times and they still lost to Seattle & Washington since then           - Lions could get it going one of these years and it looked as if it coulda been this one as they got screwed in what 3 early games? They have some pieces on offense although they are too banged up to hang against this D today -- Chicago -4.5
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 4:43 AM ET #20

    Marc Lawrence is picking the Detroit Lions in this matchup.  Uh, what the heck is going on?  I know most of his plays are based off of statistics and probability, but come Drew Stanton is starting.  
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    Marc Lawrence is picking the Detroit Lions in this matchup.  Uh, what the heck is going on?  I know most of his plays are based off of statistics and probability, but come Drew Stanton is starting.  
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 5:09 AM ET #21

    jay cutler may have his return today.the infamous sacks and INT throw. careful on the betting the bear today. D'Town ML may
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    jay cutler may have his return today.the infamous sacks and INT throw. careful on the betting the bear today. D'Town ML may
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 5:32 AM ET #22

    Line was made knowing the QB situation in Detroit..Still books only posted a FG differential..Perhaps they feel that Stanton may be underestimated seeing he has such a plethora of receivers at his disposal and time too work the play book..I for one subscribe to that philosophy even if they don`t..Rational thinking is a spectator when it comes to laying the dime on sporting events and mine has become a long distant relative by now..
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    Line was made knowing the QB situation in Detroit..Still books only posted a FG differential..Perhaps they feel that Stanton may be underestimated seeing he has such a plethora of receivers at his disposal and time too work the play book..I for one subscribe to that philosophy even if they don`t..Rational thinking is a spectator when it comes to laying the dime on sporting events and mine has become a long distant relative by now..
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    easypics
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 8:11 AM ET #23

    LIONS N' TIGERS N' BEARS ?  

                                 LIONS N' TIGERS N ' BEARS ?

                                                                   
                                                                LIONS  N' TIGERS N '


                                         B  E  A  R  S

                                         CUTLER VS. DET : 8 TDS  1 INT.

                                                       DET. PASS D ? 

                   ( CUTLER VS EAGLES 247 YRDS 4 TD'S 0 INT. )  

         
                                  B  $  L  A

                                     

                                                       CHI BY 22

      What Lions need on the way to the Emerald city...



                                                         
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    LIONS N' TIGERS N' BEARS ?  

                                 LIONS N' TIGERS N ' BEARS ?

                                                                   
                                                                LIONS  N' TIGERS N '


                                         B  E  A  R  S

                                         CUTLER VS. DET : 8 TDS  1 INT.

                                                       DET. PASS D ? 

                   ( CUTLER VS EAGLES 247 YRDS 4 TD'S 0 INT. )  

         
                                  B  $  L  A

                                     

                                                       CHI BY 22

      What Lions need on the way to the Emerald city...



                                                         
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 8:37 AM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by hockeytown71:

    No write up needed, other than this:
    Stanton is TERRIBLE (don't be surprised to see Zac Robinson)
    Peppers will have a field day
     
    Chi -4 (I always buy the hook)
    Parlay: Chi and the Under
     


    Are you being dichotomous on purpose in your post?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hockeytown71:

    No write up needed, other than this:
    Stanton is TERRIBLE (don't be surprised to see Zac Robinson)
    Peppers will have a field day
     
    Chi -4 (I always buy the hook)
    Parlay: Chi and the Under
     


    Are you being dichotomous on purpose in your post?
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 8:41 AM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by greek04champs:

    DET IS 9-56 ATS OFF A LOSS AT HOME THEY LOST TO THE PATS ON TURKEY DAY.STATS AND TRENDS FROM MARC LAWRENCE NFL PLAYBOOK 2006.

    This stat is pretty convincing Mr. Lawrence......   
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    Quote Originally Posted by greek04champs:

    DET IS 9-56 ATS OFF A LOSS AT HOME THEY LOST TO THE PATS ON TURKEY DAY.STATS AND TRENDS FROM MARC LAWRENCE NFL PLAYBOOK 2006.

    This stat is pretty convincing Mr. Lawrence......   
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