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    Carolina at Cleveland (11/28/2010)

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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2010 - 10:43 AM ET #1

    Away:  Carolina [2-8 ATS]
    Home:  Cleveland [4-6 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Cleveland Browns Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Carolina:
    Passing: Matt Moore (857)
    Rushing: DeAngelo Williams (361)
    Receiving: Steve Smith (411)

    Cleveland:
    Passing: Colt McCoy (975)
    Rushing: Peyton Hillis (774)
    Receiving: Benjamin Watson (434)

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    Away:  Carolina [2-8 ATS]
    Home:  Cleveland [4-6 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Cleveland Browns Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Carolina:
    Passing: Matt Moore (857)
    Rushing: DeAngelo Williams (361)
    Receiving: Steve Smith (411)

    Cleveland:
    Passing: Colt McCoy (975)
    Rushing: Peyton Hillis (774)
    Receiving: Benjamin Watson (434)

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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 3:06 PM ET #2

    Line is going to be 11, word on the steets is that the moneyline will come in around -600. That's 6 to 1 for an NFL team against a CFL team. Load up on Cleveland.
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    Line is going to be 11, word on the steets is that the moneyline will come in around -600. That's 6 to 1 for an NFL team against a CFL team. Load up on Cleveland.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 10:03 PM ET #3

    This line makes no sense. 

    Baltimore was +13 and now the books are saying Cleveland +11.

    So Baltimore is only 2 points better than Cleveland?

    Plus, Cleveland lost to a brutal Jacksonville team and now you want me to lay 11 with them? I understand Carolina is brutal and decimated by injury, but common... 11 points?! They haven't been favoured all year and when they are it's by this margin.

    Let's also not forget Carolina scored 13 on an 8th ranked Ravens Defence, where as Cleveland ranks 23rd.

    I honestly can't see how anyone could keep a straight face betting Carolina, but I also can't see how anyone could keep a straight face betting Cleveland +11 here either.

    This game is an absolute pass regardless.
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    This line makes no sense. 

    Baltimore was +13 and now the books are saying Cleveland +11.

    So Baltimore is only 2 points better than Cleveland?

    Plus, Cleveland lost to a brutal Jacksonville team and now you want me to lay 11 with them? I understand Carolina is brutal and decimated by injury, but common... 11 points?! They haven't been favoured all year and when they are it's by this margin.

    Let's also not forget Carolina scored 13 on an 8th ranked Ravens Defence, where as Cleveland ranks 23rd.

    I honestly can't see how anyone could keep a straight face betting Carolina, but I also can't see how anyone could keep a straight face betting Cleveland +11 here either.

    This game is an absolute pass regardless.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 10:44 PM ET #4

    Anybody leaning Cleveland needs to consider McCoy is doubtful.  So this isn't the same chemistry that won two impressive games recently.  It's more likely the team with one win in it's first 6 games...3 pts over Cincy.  The same win total Carolina had in their first 6 games...one 3 pt. win.  As said before, I can't see how anyone could lay money on Carolina with any confidence.  Now with McCoy sitting down and a big spread, can't see Cleveland dominating enough to cover either.  Pass!
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    Anybody leaning Cleveland needs to consider McCoy is doubtful.  So this isn't the same chemistry that won two impressive games recently.  It's more likely the team with one win in it's first 6 games...3 pts over Cincy.  The same win total Carolina had in their first 6 games...one 3 pt. win.  As said before, I can't see how anyone could lay money on Carolina with any confidence.  Now with McCoy sitting down and a big spread, can't see Cleveland dominating enough to cover either.  Pass!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2010 - 4:11 PM ET #5

        It's now or never, for a Panthers cover! All the indications are there for a big effort.

    CAROLINA  + 10  (LARGE)

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        It's now or never, for a Panthers cover! All the indications are there for a big effort.

    CAROLINA  + 10  (LARGE)

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2010 - 9:56 PM ET #6

    i would have to go with car +10. i dont think theyll win straight up but i also dont think the browns have enough to cover 10 points.

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    i would have to go with car +10. i dont think theyll win straight up but i also dont think the browns have enough to cover 10 points.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2010 - 6:38 AM ET #7

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=21&sub=100895290

    Browns reporting that Colt McCoy will NOT Start and most likely be OUT for a while with a high ankle sprain.

    Browns HC Eric Mangini is leaning towards starting "Has-Been" Jake Delhomme over Senica(?) Wallace since it's Delhomme's old team they are playing in the Panthers.

    The Browns are STILL listed as a -10 favorite this Sunday.

    The line reflects all the good work that Colt McCoy has done since he's been the starter but without him the Browns offense has been aweful this season.

    Carolina has their own issues and also one at QB but Delhomme might throw more Carolina TD's than any Panthers QB that they could field.

    The line is a landmine waiting to go "BOOM" and kill any Browns wager that goes near it.

    My advise... Tease the Under to the maximum and wait to cash.

    Good Luck for those who dare to tread towards Cleveland-10

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    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=21&sub=100895290

    Browns reporting that Colt McCoy will NOT Start and most likely be OUT for a while with a high ankle sprain.

    Browns HC Eric Mangini is leaning towards starting "Has-Been" Jake Delhomme over Senica(?) Wallace since it's Delhomme's old team they are playing in the Panthers.

    The Browns are STILL listed as a -10 favorite this Sunday.

    The line reflects all the good work that Colt McCoy has done since he's been the starter but without him the Browns offense has been aweful this season.

    Carolina has their own issues and also one at QB but Delhomme might throw more Carolina TD's than any Panthers QB that they could field.

    The line is a landmine waiting to go "BOOM" and kill any Browns wager that goes near it.

    My advise... Tease the Under to the maximum and wait to cash.

    Good Luck for those who dare to tread towards Cleveland-10

     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2010 - 2:41 PM ET #8

    pass
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    pass
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2010 - 2:04 AM ET #9

    OK Panthers HC is using back up from Rams last year keith Null

    another int machine  !

    BUT really should celve be favored by this much ?

    they only won 3 games STIL it gets nasty in Celeve with gusty winds and that dosent bold well for panthers

    JOHN FOX next coach to get da boot at end of year

    LIKE why arent you using  your 3rd string rookie instead you go grab jo St Pieere  to play at home vs ravens a 13 pt HOME dog got close  but two more picks from St Pieere gave Balty an easy win 37-13 

    Browns lost two games  in final minutes  at Jags and HOME in OT  to jets  both games  lost by same margin  ATS   - 3 points

    I come up with at most a 7 point win for Browns here 

     

    rember these are all PRO teams playing the worst can beat the best any given sunday

    Delhomme of course would love to beat his former team and they sure would love to beat him for fucking up thier playoffs two years ago  when tossed 6 picks to cardinals as a 10 point home fav !

    Holmgreen in charge of Browns now and he wants to turn this losing franchise into a winner 

    BUT i'll take the overpriced DOG here  they will play  harder this time  and this may come down to a FG 

     

    DO NOT underestimate Panthers Pass defense  they are very good  there  ranked  7th  in league  !

    EXPECT the turnover battle to get Panthers Cover  two to three gifts from jake  is all they need  !

    THEN again will NULL do what he did last year  with rams  3 td's 10 INTS  or suomthing like that !

    IF pamthers can score  17 points  they cover

    hoping for a muddy slow surface or high gusty winds  even in dry conditions it causes low scoring games and earrant passes with weak arm QB's

     really tough to move the ball with 20 - 30 MPH winds swirling  through stadium

    disadavantgae to both teams  especially favorites in DD's or more than a TD

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    OK Panthers HC is using back up from Rams last year keith Null

    another int machine  !

    BUT really should celve be favored by this much ?

    they only won 3 games STIL it gets nasty in Celeve with gusty winds and that dosent bold well for panthers

    JOHN FOX next coach to get da boot at end of year

    LIKE why arent you using  your 3rd string rookie instead you go grab jo St Pieere  to play at home vs ravens a 13 pt HOME dog got close  but two more picks from St Pieere gave Balty an easy win 37-13 

    Browns lost two games  in final minutes  at Jags and HOME in OT  to jets  both games  lost by same margin  ATS   - 3 points

    I come up with at most a 7 point win for Browns here 

     

    rember these are all PRO teams playing the worst can beat the best any given sunday

    Delhomme of course would love to beat his former team and they sure would love to beat him for fucking up thier playoffs two years ago  when tossed 6 picks to cardinals as a 10 point home fav !

    Holmgreen in charge of Browns now and he wants to turn this losing franchise into a winner 

    BUT i'll take the overpriced DOG here  they will play  harder this time  and this may come down to a FG 

     

    DO NOT underestimate Panthers Pass defense  they are very good  there  ranked  7th  in league  !

    EXPECT the turnover battle to get Panthers Cover  two to three gifts from jake  is all they need  !

    THEN again will NULL do what he did last year  with rams  3 td's 10 INTS  or suomthing like that !

    IF pamthers can score  17 points  they cover

    hoping for a muddy slow surface or high gusty winds  even in dry conditions it causes low scoring games and earrant passes with weak arm QB's

     really tough to move the ball with 20 - 30 MPH winds swirling  through stadium

    disadavantgae to both teams  especially favorites in DD's or more than a TD

     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2010 - 10:20 AM ET #10

    ARE YOU SERIOUS? HOW DID THIS HAPPENED? MCCOY GETS HURT JUST IN TIME FOR DELHOMME TO PLAY VS HIS OLD TEAM? WHAT TIMING AND WHAT A BEATING.

    CLEVELAND -10
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    ARE YOU SERIOUS? HOW DID THIS HAPPENED? MCCOY GETS HURT JUST IN TIME FOR DELHOMME TO PLAY VS HIS OLD TEAM? WHAT TIMING AND WHAT A BEATING.

    CLEVELAND -10
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2010 - 1:37 PM ET #11

    with mccoy doubtful, and with the panthers getting jonathen stewart back to go along with goodson, and clevland has never beat corolina. i can see the panthers winning this one su with there ground game. corolina-20 clevland-17;;; feed the dog;;;;;

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    with mccoy doubtful, and with the panthers getting jonathen stewart back to go along with goodson, and clevland has never beat corolina. i can see the panthers winning this one su with there ground game. corolina-20 clevland-17;;; feed the dog;;;;;

     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2010 - 2:04 PM ET #12

    Cleveland - 20                              Carolina - 9

    Browns -10                              under 37.5 

    Panthers are struggling bigtime and traveling up to play a hungry Browns team might not bode well for this outfit.

    Dog Pound will be woofing on Sunday.

    Browns - Under

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    Cleveland - 20                              Carolina - 9

    Browns -10                              under 37.5 

    Panthers are struggling bigtime and traveling up to play a hungry Browns team might not bode well for this outfit.

    Dog Pound will be woofing on Sunday.

    Browns - Under

     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2010 - 8:30 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by CincoCincoCinco:

    Line is going to be 11, word on the steets is that the moneyline will come in around -600. That's 6 to 1 for an NFL team against a CFL team. Load up on Cleveland.

    Even Montreal or Sakatchewan who are playing in the Grey Cup tomorrow would be able to beat Carolina and quite possibly Cleveland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CincoCincoCinco:

    Line is going to be 11, word on the steets is that the moneyline will come in around -600. That's 6 to 1 for an NFL team against a CFL team. Load up on Cleveland.

    Even Montreal or Sakatchewan who are playing in the Grey Cup tomorrow would be able to beat Carolina and quite possibly Cleveland.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2010 - 8:57 PM ET #14

    Tony Pike might play....Gives Panthers a spark..   Carolina covers

     

     

     

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    Tony Pike might play....Gives Panthers a spark..   Carolina covers

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2010 - 11:04 PM ET #15

    CAROLINA +9.5 
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    CAROLINA +9.5 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2010 - 11:47 PM ET #16

    Cleveland Browns -9.5 LARGE

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    Cleveland Browns -9.5 LARGE

     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2010 - 11:50 PM ET #17

    No way I'm putting money on Delhomme and the Browns, can't believe I'm saying this but........

    Panthers +9.5

    So god help me.

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    No way I'm putting money on Delhomme and the Browns, can't believe I'm saying this but........

    Panthers +9.5

    So god help me.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2010 - 1:21 AM ET #18

    Let's see here. Cleveland beats New Orleans, beats the Saints, loses to the Jets in overtime, then loses another close one to a Jacksonville team that is pulling it all together. What better way to take out the frustration from the last two games than to lay an ass whoopin on the worst team in the league. Clausen alone will probably score two touchdowns for the brownies. As far as McCoy not playing, with the motivation Delhomme should have for this game, it's probably a step up at the quarterback position for Cleveland.

    Car 7    Cle 31

    Cleveland -9.5
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    Let's see here. Cleveland beats New Orleans, beats the Saints, loses to the Jets in overtime, then loses another close one to a Jacksonville team that is pulling it all together. What better way to take out the frustration from the last two games than to lay an ass whoopin on the worst team in the league. Clausen alone will probably score two touchdowns for the brownies. As far as McCoy not playing, with the motivation Delhomme should have for this game, it's probably a step up at the quarterback position for Cleveland.

    Car 7    Cle 31

    Cleveland -9.5
     
    Whalewatcher
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2010 - 1:36 AM ET #19

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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2010 - 2:13 AM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by Smashed69:

    Let's see here. Cleveland beats New Orleans, beats the Patriots, loses to the Jets in overtime, then loses another close one to a Jacksonville team that is pulling it all together. What better way to take out the frustration from the last two games than to lay an ass whoopin on the worst team in the league. Clausen alone will probably score two touchdowns for the brownies. As far as McCoy not playing, with the motivation Delhomme should have for this game, it's probably a step up at the quarterback position for Cleveland.

    Car 7    Cle 31

    Cleveland -9.5


    Correction, getting too late.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smashed69:

    Let's see here. Cleveland beats New Orleans, beats the Patriots, loses to the Jets in overtime, then loses another close one to a Jacksonville team that is pulling it all together. What better way to take out the frustration from the last two games than to lay an ass whoopin on the worst team in the league. Clausen alone will probably score two touchdowns for the brownies. As far as McCoy not playing, with the motivation Delhomme should have for this game, it's probably a step up at the quarterback position for Cleveland.

    Car 7    Cle 31

    Cleveland -9.5


    Correction, getting too late.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2010 - 2:19 AM ET #21

    I don't see how you can take Carolina on the road.  I also don't see how you can lay 10 on the Browns.  This game blows cock.  Play the Over if anything.
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    I don't see how you can take Carolina on the road.  I also don't see how you can lay 10 on the Browns.  This game blows cock.  Play the Over if anything.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2010 - 3:11 AM ET #22

    I hate Delhomme and think he is a tee shirt at best. But if he plays along side this cleveland team of late (anyone watch the pats, saints, jets or jags games?) I think they blow the doors off this team.

    Car has ZERO to play for and have been plaing that way for a while. Cleveland is turning the corner from doormat to respectable team.
    HUGE line and there is a reason for that. Blowout alert.

    Pound the Browns
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    I hate Delhomme and think he is a tee shirt at best. But if he plays along side this cleveland team of late (anyone watch the pats, saints, jets or jags games?) I think they blow the doors off this team.

    Car has ZERO to play for and have been plaing that way for a while. Cleveland is turning the corner from doormat to respectable team.
    HUGE line and there is a reason for that. Blowout alert.

    Pound the Browns
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2010 - 4:24 AM ET #23

    VER 37.5
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    VER 37.5
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2010 - 9:37 AM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by W8LIFTER:

    Cleveland Browns -9.5 LARGE

    PLAY OF THE DAY!!!! W8LIFTER IS A MACHINE!!! LOCK THIS UP!Good luck W8, you are the best!

    Watch this guy, he is on fire!

    Saturday's Picks!

    NCAAF

    Michigan +16.5

    Purdue -3.5 

    Maryland +2 LARGE

    Northwestern +23

    Mississippi +3

    Oregon State +13

    Notre Dame +4.5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by W8LIFTER:

    Cleveland Browns -9.5 LARGE

    PLAY OF THE DAY!!!! W8LIFTER IS A MACHINE!!! LOCK THIS UP!Good luck W8, you are the best!

    Watch this guy, he is on fire!

    Saturday's Picks!

    NCAAF

    Michigan +16.5

    Purdue -3.5 

    Maryland +2 LARGE

    Northwestern +23

    Mississippi +3

    Oregon State +13

    Notre Dame +4.5

     
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2010 - 10:48 AM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by shimmersun:

    No way I'm putting money on Delhomme and the Browns, can't believe I'm saying this but........

    Panthers +9.5

    So god help me.

    Couldn't have said it better .........  Panthers +9.5   God help us all !! 

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    Quote Originally Posted by shimmersun:

    No way I'm putting money on Delhomme and the Browns, can't believe I'm saying this but........

    Panthers +9.5

    So god help me.

    Couldn't have said it better .........  Panthers +9.5   God help us all !! 

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