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    Buffalo at New England (09/14/2009)

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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2009 - 5:05 PM ET #1

    Away:  Atlanta [9-7 ATS]
    Home:  Arizona [9-7 ATS]

    Game Time: 4:30 PM
    Stadium: University of Phoenix Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
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    Team Leaders:

    Atlanta:
    Passing: Matt Ryan (3440)
    Rushing: Michael Turner (1699)
    Receiving: Roddy White (1382)

    Arizona:
    Passing: Kurt Warner (4583)
    Rushing: Edgerrin James (514)
    Receiving: Larry Fitzgerald (1431)

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    Away:  Atlanta [9-7 ATS]
    Home:  Arizona [9-7 ATS]

    Game Time: 4:30 PM
    Stadium: University of Phoenix Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
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    Team Leaders:

    Atlanta:
    Passing: Matt Ryan (3440)
    Rushing: Michael Turner (1699)
    Receiving: Roddy White (1382)

    Arizona:
    Passing: Kurt Warner (4583)
    Rushing: Edgerrin James (514)
    Receiving: Larry Fitzgerald (1431)

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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2009 - 8:39 PM ET #2

    Bills always play well after they play the Patriots. The key word here is AFTER. You know the rest......
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    Bills always play well after they play the Patriots. The key word here is AFTER. You know the rest......
     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2009 - 9:03 PM ET #3

    Pats come out strong!!
     
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    Pats come out strong!!
     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2009 - 8:32 PM ET #4

     Easy Win for the Pats!
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     Easy Win for the Pats!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 6, 2009 - 3:15 PM ET #5

    Leaning Bills +10  depending on tom's injury
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    Leaning Bills +10  depending on tom's injury
     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2009 - 8:20 PM ET #6

    NE wins by 2 TDs
    NE -10 
    GLTA 
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    NE wins by 2 TDs
    NE -10 
    GLTA 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2009 - 10:30 AM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by snowjocky:

    Leaning Bills +10  depending on tom's injury


    There is no injury, Brady will be listed on the injury report for the rest of his career with a right shoulder strain
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowjocky:

    Leaning Bills +10  depending on tom's injury


    There is no injury, Brady will be listed on the injury report for the rest of his career with a right shoulder strain
     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2009 - 6:56 PM ET #8

    Pats will cover, 31-13
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    Pats will cover, 31-13
     
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    Posted: Sep. 9, 2009 - 12:22 AM ET #9

    Buffalo sucks on offense
    Pats should kill Bills
    Pats 40  Bills 9
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    Buffalo sucks on offense
    Pats should kill Bills
    Pats 40  Bills 9
     
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    Posted: Sep. 9, 2009 - 2:49 PM ET #10

    if lynch was playing i would have taken buffalo
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    if lynch was playing i would have taken buffalo
     
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    Posted: Sep. 9, 2009 - 8:17 PM ET #11

    I am as die hard Buffalo Bills fan as you will ever meet (sorry to say) and you would be insane to bet the Bills in this game.  I post on Bills boards so I know this team inside and out.  We are going to be terrible this year, and I do mean TERRIBLE.  If it wasnt for my fear of burning in hell, i would bet the hell out of the Patriots....Where to start....
     
    The Bills offense:  The Bills starting unit failed to score 1 offensive TD in the preseason.  The Bills offensive line is COMPLETELY reshuffled.  Our RG is a rookie who will be seeing his first game, along with our LG.  Our center is back-up guard from the Panthers.  We just let Langston Walker go (the only player on our team with LT starting experience) and will have another rookie, Demetrius Bell, start in his place.  Demetrius will bea solid player in the future, but is a project.  He was taken in the 7th round last year, and impressed some coaches.  He missed 15 games due to injury, and did not play in the only game he dressed for.  Our line as struggled for YEARS against the 3-4 and now we have a completely inexperienced line trying to do the job.  Lynch is suspended.  Freddy Jackson is solid and will start, but after him Xavier Omon averages hardly 2 yards a carry and hasnt shown me hes capable of anything.  For some dumb effing reason, the bills let dominic rhodes go.  WR is the only strength on this team, but with the lack of protection, Trent will be forced to go with his usual small dump of gains that wont amount to crap.  The fact that we wont be able to run the ball wont help that at all.
     
    Bills Defense:  The Bills defense showed once again its failure to get pressure on the QB this preseason.  Rookie Aaron Maybin showed some positve signs that he could be a force in the future, however his lack of size and run stoping ability makes him a situational rusher only.  You cannot give Tom Brady 4 clean seconds to throw the ball.  You simply cannot.  This is one of the major reasons the Pats have owned us for years.  No pressure on Tom.  We get hardly an edge rush, and when we do, theres no pressure up the middle so Tom will just step up and find someone.  Our CBs are decent (Mckelvin and Mcgee) however lack of size matched up on Moss concerns me.  Our safetys are jokes. We passed on Ngata in the draft for Whitner and guess who has more interceptions?  Yup a freaking DT.....
     
    I can go on.  The only edge we have is on special teams...however you guys get the point.  The Pats have absolutely owned us for years and we're even worse now.  This spread should seriously be at least 17 and i personally think we'll lose by 21 or more....hope I could help...as you can see, us Bills fans are optimistic.....GL all
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    I am as die hard Buffalo Bills fan as you will ever meet (sorry to say) and you would be insane to bet the Bills in this game.  I post on Bills boards so I know this team inside and out.  We are going to be terrible this year, and I do mean TERRIBLE.  If it wasnt for my fear of burning in hell, i would bet the hell out of the Patriots....Where to start....
     
    The Bills offense:  The Bills starting unit failed to score 1 offensive TD in the preseason.  The Bills offensive line is COMPLETELY reshuffled.  Our RG is a rookie who will be seeing his first game, along with our LG.  Our center is back-up guard from the Panthers.  We just let Langston Walker go (the only player on our team with LT starting experience) and will have another rookie, Demetrius Bell, start in his place.  Demetrius will bea solid player in the future, but is a project.  He was taken in the 7th round last year, and impressed some coaches.  He missed 15 games due to injury, and did not play in the only game he dressed for.  Our line as struggled for YEARS against the 3-4 and now we have a completely inexperienced line trying to do the job.  Lynch is suspended.  Freddy Jackson is solid and will start, but after him Xavier Omon averages hardly 2 yards a carry and hasnt shown me hes capable of anything.  For some dumb effing reason, the bills let dominic rhodes go.  WR is the only strength on this team, but with the lack of protection, Trent will be forced to go with his usual small dump of gains that wont amount to crap.  The fact that we wont be able to run the ball wont help that at all.
     
    Bills Defense:  The Bills defense showed once again its failure to get pressure on the QB this preseason.  Rookie Aaron Maybin showed some positve signs that he could be a force in the future, however his lack of size and run stoping ability makes him a situational rusher only.  You cannot give Tom Brady 4 clean seconds to throw the ball.  You simply cannot.  This is one of the major reasons the Pats have owned us for years.  No pressure on Tom.  We get hardly an edge rush, and when we do, theres no pressure up the middle so Tom will just step up and find someone.  Our CBs are decent (Mckelvin and Mcgee) however lack of size matched up on Moss concerns me.  Our safetys are jokes. We passed on Ngata in the draft for Whitner and guess who has more interceptions?  Yup a freaking DT.....
     
    I can go on.  The only edge we have is on special teams...however you guys get the point.  The Pats have absolutely owned us for years and we're even worse now.  This spread should seriously be at least 17 and i personally think we'll lose by 21 or more....hope I could help...as you can see, us Bills fans are optimistic.....GL all
     
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    Posted: Sep. 9, 2009 - 8:19 PM ET #12

    Pats ML For me.... Easy win
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    Pats ML For me.... Easy win
     
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    Posted: Sep. 9, 2009 - 9:12 PM ET #13

    oh yeah, i should also mention we just fired our offensive coordinator a week before the season.  effing awesome
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    oh yeah, i should also mention we just fired our offensive coordinator a week before the season.  effing awesome
     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2009 - 3:34 AM ET #14

    Bills +10.5
     
    BUFFALO 24
    PATRIOTS 21
     
     
    BILLS ARE KNOWN FOR SHOCKING THE NATION ON MONDAY NIGHT...
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    Bills +10.5
     
    BUFFALO 24
    PATRIOTS 21
     
     
    BILLS ARE KNOWN FOR SHOCKING THE NATION ON MONDAY NIGHT...
     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2009 - 4:15 AM ET #15

    thats awesome FlyingDutchman! thx for the info.
      taking a 3 team 10 point teaz here
     
        ravens-3
        saints-3
        pats-0.5
     
       also baltimore  - 13
         new england -  10.5  2 team parlay
      
     
         goodluck to all
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    thats awesome FlyingDutchman! thx for the info.
      taking a 3 team 10 point teaz here
     
        ravens-3
        saints-3
        pats-0.5
     
       also baltimore  - 13
         new england -  10.5  2 team parlay
      
     
         goodluck to all
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2009 - 12:26 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by L0cks_all_d4y:

    Bills +10.5
     
    BUFFALO 24
    PATRIOTS 21
     
     
    BILLS ARE KNOWN FOR SHOCKING THE NATION ON MONDAY NIGHT...

    huh? we havent won a primtime game in years....the last time we played the pats in primetime, Randy Moss scored 4 TDs IN THE FIRST HALF...we lost to the effing Browns at home last year in primetime....the only time we've come close to shocking anyone is when we nearly beat the Cowboys.  Besides that we usually just embarass ourselves

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by L0cks_all_d4y:

    Bills +10.5
     
    BUFFALO 24
    PATRIOTS 21
     
     
    BILLS ARE KNOWN FOR SHOCKING THE NATION ON MONDAY NIGHT...

    huh? we havent won a primtime game in years....the last time we played the pats in primetime, Randy Moss scored 4 TDs IN THE FIRST HALF...we lost to the effing Browns at home last year in primetime....the only time we've come close to shocking anyone is when we nearly beat the Cowboys.  Besides that we usually just embarass ourselves

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2009 - 12:56 PM ET #17

     
    Brady is back...  needs to prove something to himself.  Will dominate.  NE covers.
     
    NE 35 - 13
     
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    Brady is back...  needs to prove something to himself.  Will dominate.  NE covers.
     
    NE 35 - 13
     
    GLA
     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2009 - 2:07 PM ET #18

    Check out how many times double digit dogs covered in the first 4 weeks of football last year.
     
    Last year in week one the only double digit dog was Kansas City against NEW ENGLAND! KC was +16.5, but game day they were +17.
    KC lost by 7 (They covered, and they suck!) and they put Brady out for the season.
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    Check out how many times double digit dogs covered in the first 4 weeks of football last year.
     
    Last year in week one the only double digit dog was Kansas City against NEW ENGLAND! KC was +16.5, but game day they were +17.
    KC lost by 7 (They covered, and they suck!) and they put Brady out for the season.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2009 - 2:21 PM ET #19

    anyone considering under here?

    pats come out slow, brady's first real full game in two years... obth D's stepping it up at primetime... buffalo unable to move the ball effectively...
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    anyone considering under here?

    pats come out slow, brady's first real full game in two years... obth D's stepping it up at primetime... buffalo unable to move the ball effectively...
     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2009 - 2:45 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by dsummer4:



    There is no injury, Brady will be listed on the injury report for the rest of his career with a right shoulder strain

    That's hilarious because it's true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsummer4:



    There is no injury, Brady will be listed on the injury report for the rest of his career with a right shoulder strain

    That's hilarious because it's true.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2009 - 2:51 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by dude1618:

    anyone considering under here?

    pats come out slow, brady's first real full game in two years... obth D's stepping it up at primetime... buffalo unable to move the ball effectively...

    NAH. If anything I like the PATS & OVER. New England's defense is almost completely new faces, aside from Wilfork and Warren. That's a lot of overturn. You'd think it would take some time for that unit to gel with one another.

    And I wouldn't worry about Brady. That offense is loaded with weapons. You can have Moss and Galloway run fly patterns or hit Welker over the middle. They also have a nice little stable of running backs with Maroney, Taylor, Faulk, Morris and Green-Ellis.

    PATS & OVER

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    Quote Originally Posted by dude1618:

    anyone considering under here?

    pats come out slow, brady's first real full game in two years... obth D's stepping it up at primetime... buffalo unable to move the ball effectively...

    NAH. If anything I like the PATS & OVER. New England's defense is almost completely new faces, aside from Wilfork and Warren. That's a lot of overturn. You'd think it would take some time for that unit to gel with one another.

    And I wouldn't worry about Brady. That offense is loaded with weapons. You can have Moss and Galloway run fly patterns or hit Welker over the middle. They also have a nice little stable of running backs with Maroney, Taylor, Faulk, Morris and Green-Ellis.

    PATS & OVER

     
    dddevin69
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    NAH. If anything I like the PATS & OVER. New England's defense is almost completely new faces, aside from Wilfork and Warren. That's a lot of overturn. You'd think it would take some time for that unit to gel with one another.

    And I wouldn't worry about Brady. That offense is loaded with weapons. You can have Moss and Galloway run fly patterns or hit Welker over the middle. They also have a nice little stable of running backs with Maroney, Taylor, Faulk, Morris and Green-Ellis.

    PATS & OVER

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    NAH. If anything I like the PATS & OVER. New England's defense is almost completely new faces, aside from Wilfork and Warren. That's a lot of overturn. You'd think it would take some time for that unit to gel with one another.

    And I wouldn't worry about Brady. That offense is loaded with weapons. You can have Moss and Galloway run fly patterns or hit Welker over the middle. They also have a nice little stable of running backs with Maroney, Taylor, Faulk, Morris and Green-Ellis.

    PATS & OVER

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    Huge Bills Fan here also I don't see the team as badd as u dutchman. Yes we didn't do much during preseason but we also didn't have T.O. after the first series of the first game. I see the Bills keeping it close and cover the 10.5 line. I hate the Pats more than anything and I live in Mass. We'll actually I lied probably hate the Bruins more but Pats are right up there. Bills +10.5 21-12 Pats as much as I hate to say it
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    Huge Bills Fan here also I don't see the team as badd as u dutchman. Yes we didn't do much during preseason but we also didn't have T.O. after the first series of the first game. I see the Bills keeping it close and cover the 10.5 line. I hate the Pats more than anything and I live in Mass. We'll actually I lied probably hate the Bruins more but Pats are right up there. Bills +10.5 21-12 Pats as much as I hate to say it
     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2009 - 3:50 AM ET #24

    NE will eat up the bills like Buffalo wings. haha
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    NE will eat up the bills like Buffalo wings. haha
     
     
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    youre thinking with your heart borba.  tons of love and respect for a fellow bills fan  but you must look at some things closely.  Number 1.  Take a look at how many primetime games we've won in the past 5 years. I personally cant remember 1 and I used to have season tickets.  Number 2.  How many times have we beat the Pats in the last 6 years.  Maybe once.  Now look deeper at how many games have been within the spread.  Not one.  New England owns us plain and simple.  Number 3.  Look at what the Bills do against teams who run the 3-4.  Take a look at what we put up against San Francisco last year for gods sake.  We DO NOT score against the 3-4. Plain and simple.  Number 4 and final point.  Pressure.  The Bills are the worst in the league at this.  T.O isnt gonna help get any pressure on Brady who should have plenty of time to pick us apart.  Im rooting for a miracle, but im a realist, we're screwed
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    youre thinking with your heart borba.  tons of love and respect for a fellow bills fan  but you must look at some things closely.  Number 1.  Take a look at how many primetime games we've won in the past 5 years. I personally cant remember 1 and I used to have season tickets.  Number 2.  How many times have we beat the Pats in the last 6 years.  Maybe once.  Now look deeper at how many games have been within the spread.  Not one.  New England owns us plain and simple.  Number 3.  Look at what the Bills do against teams who run the 3-4.  Take a look at what we put up against San Francisco last year for gods sake.  We DO NOT score against the 3-4. Plain and simple.  Number 4 and final point.  Pressure.  The Bills are the worst in the league at this.  T.O isnt gonna help get any pressure on Brady who should have plenty of time to pick us apart.  Im rooting for a miracle, but im a realist, we're screwed
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