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    Baltimore at New York (09/13/2010)

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    pipefitter_69er
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2010 - 5:12 PM ET #26

    BALTIMORE
    They're gonna eat Sanchez sandwich leftovers for lunch all week after
    under 36 Ravens defense ! 
    They cant make the line any lower either


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    BALTIMORE
    They're gonna eat Sanchez sandwich leftovers for lunch all week after
    under 36 Ravens defense ! 
    They cant make the line any lower either


     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2010 - 10:14 PM ET #27

    This could be a defensive battle for sure !  Line down to Ravens +1 !  Everything is pointing to the Ravens and Under 36.5 ...... 

     But and there is always a butt, Jets @ home with a little something to prove, a few turnovers and some special teams play and the Yets just might cover ??? 

    Undecided ??

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    This could be a defensive battle for sure !  Line down to Ravens +1 !  Everything is pointing to the Ravens and Under 36.5 ...... 

     But and there is always a butt, Jets @ home with a little something to prove, a few turnovers and some special teams play and the Yets just might cover ??? 

    Undecided ??

     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2010 - 10:58 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by bkg1010:

    This could be a defensive battle for sure !  Line down to Ravens +1 !  Everything is pointing to the Ravens and Under 36.5 ...... 

     But and there is always a butt, Jets @ home with a little something to prove, a few turnovers and some special teams play and the Yets just might cover ??? 

    Undecided ??

    No need for me to post... you've said it all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bkg1010:

    This could be a defensive battle for sure !  Line down to Ravens +1 !  Everything is pointing to the Ravens and Under 36.5 ...... 

     But and there is always a butt, Jets @ home with a little something to prove, a few turnovers and some special teams play and the Yets just might cover ??? 

    Undecided ??

    No need for me to post... you've said it all.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2010 - 1:02 AM ET #29

    Jets -1.5 (-120)
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    Jets -1.5 (-120)
     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2010 - 1:53 AM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by vue21849:

     Will have to side with the Jets here.  Don't worry about Sanchez. Flacco is not ALL THAT either!! Jets finished with one of the better "D's" LY- can pick up where they left off. Jets to cover late with an improbable "smoke and mirror" play!

          

     

     

     

    u mite wanna consider just betting the UNDER with 2 defensive minded teams................just sayin

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    Quote Originally Posted by vue21849:

     Will have to side with the Jets here.  Don't worry about Sanchez. Flacco is not ALL THAT either!! Jets finished with one of the better "D's" LY- can pick up where they left off. Jets to cover late with an improbable "smoke and mirror" play!

          

     

     

     

    u mite wanna consider just betting the UNDER with 2 defensive minded teams................just sayin

     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2010 - 2:03 AM ET #31

    Ravens have always hung their hat on defense, but they were one of the most penalized teams last year when it came to pass interference calls I believe, and there secondary will be tested. Everything about these teams scream under, but I think the Jets will air it out tomorrow more than people think. Should be an interesting game.
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    Ravens have always hung their hat on defense, but they were one of the most penalized teams last year when it came to pass interference calls I believe, and there secondary will be tested. Everything about these teams scream under, but I think the Jets will air it out tomorrow more than people think. Should be an interesting game.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2010 - 2:13 AM ET #32

    After watching how fast and slick the new meadowlands field played today and how the ball seemed to find its way on the new turf, I'm a firm believer that no matter how good these 2 defenses are, that field will be notorious for hitting the over no matter who plays on it.  With that being said, my bets on the over for sure as both teams defenses could very well put up 6 a piece on turnovers, along with a HIGH %ege chance of Sanchez throwing at least 1 interception, which could go to the house as well.  Monday Night, NEW TURF, DEFENSES STEP UP...SANCHEZ pretty good at giving it up when he gets too comfortable... 2.5 units on the over, 2.5 units on the ravens +2, 1 unit ravens +2, over 36.5 parlay... good luck everyone
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    After watching how fast and slick the new meadowlands field played today and how the ball seemed to find its way on the new turf, I'm a firm believer that no matter how good these 2 defenses are, that field will be notorious for hitting the over no matter who plays on it.  With that being said, my bets on the over for sure as both teams defenses could very well put up 6 a piece on turnovers, along with a HIGH %ege chance of Sanchez throwing at least 1 interception, which could go to the house as well.  Monday Night, NEW TURF, DEFENSES STEP UP...SANCHEZ pretty good at giving it up when he gets too comfortable... 2.5 units on the over, 2.5 units on the ravens +2, 1 unit ravens +2, over 36.5 parlay... good luck everyone
     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2010 - 3:00 AM ET #33

    27 - 24 ravens... this one will be decided by the toes of BALTIMORES NEW PRIZE KICKER BILLIAM CUNDIFF
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    27 - 24 ravens... this one will be decided by the toes of BALTIMORES NEW PRIZE KICKER BILLIAM CUNDIFF
     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2010 - 5:03 AM ET #34

    Been tossing this game around since the line came out and am still not 100% sure what to believe might happen. I do like the imput regarding the field made by Milkmoney67 above my post here. The new field could play some role since both teams have yet to play a real game on it. On one hand I do find it hard to believe that this game could be as high scoring as the CAR/NYG game was but anything is possible.

    The way I am seeing it is that Balt's "O" is stronger than thier "D" is now... and the opposite is true of the Jets. Thier "D" is much stronger than what little "O" they do possess. This means that the main story of the game will be the Ravens "O" vs the Jets "D". How many points can the Ravens score vs how many points will the Jets defense allow.

    So... I see the Ravens offense vs the Jets defense as a push situation. Now... moving on to the second storyline of this matchup... the Jets offense vs the Ravens defense. I have to give the edge to the Ravens defense here so when all is said and done I expect the Ravens to pull out an ATS and SU win on MNF vs the J-E-T-S.

    Mike Greenberg will be sobbing on Tuesday morning as will Mike Golic, tomorrow, who's beloved Notre Dame squad lost at home to Michigan at home on Saturday.

    My guesstimate is Baltimore-10 Jets-9

    Baltimore (I know, Colts) vs the Jets use to mean something grand... those were the days. I was a little bit of a Colts fan as a kid just because of Johny U.

    Weren't all us kids back then. Time sucks sometimes.

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    Been tossing this game around since the line came out and am still not 100% sure what to believe might happen. I do like the imput regarding the field made by Milkmoney67 above my post here. The new field could play some role since both teams have yet to play a real game on it. On one hand I do find it hard to believe that this game could be as high scoring as the CAR/NYG game was but anything is possible.

    The way I am seeing it is that Balt's "O" is stronger than thier "D" is now... and the opposite is true of the Jets. Thier "D" is much stronger than what little "O" they do possess. This means that the main story of the game will be the Ravens "O" vs the Jets "D". How many points can the Ravens score vs how many points will the Jets defense allow.

    So... I see the Ravens offense vs the Jets defense as a push situation. Now... moving on to the second storyline of this matchup... the Jets offense vs the Ravens defense. I have to give the edge to the Ravens defense here so when all is said and done I expect the Ravens to pull out an ATS and SU win on MNF vs the J-E-T-S.

    Mike Greenberg will be sobbing on Tuesday morning as will Mike Golic, tomorrow, who's beloved Notre Dame squad lost at home to Michigan at home on Saturday.

    My guesstimate is Baltimore-10 Jets-9

    Baltimore (I know, Colts) vs the Jets use to mean something grand... those were the days. I was a little bit of a Colts fan as a kid just because of Johny U.

    Weren't all us kids back then. Time sucks sometimes.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2010 - 5:05 AM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by pipefitter_69er:

    BALTIMORE
    They're gonna eat Sanchez sandwich leftovers for lunch all week after
    under 36 Ravens defense ! 
    They cant make the line any lower either
    Hey pipefitter_69er... That is one nice looking ass in your avitar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pipefitter_69er:

    BALTIMORE
    They're gonna eat Sanchez sandwich leftovers for lunch all week after
    under 36 Ravens defense ! 
    They cant make the line any lower either
    Hey pipefitter_69er... That is one nice looking ass in your avitar.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2010 - 8:04 AM ET #36

    take the ravens, some allegations of sexual harassment swirling involving the jets team including coaching stafff, negative light being shinned on a team has always been something i like to go against, take the points here and gllll
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    take the ravens, some allegations of sexual harassment swirling involving the jets team including coaching stafff, negative light being shinned on a team has always been something i like to go against, take the points here and gllll
     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2010 - 8:07 AM ET #37

    nn
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    nn
     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2010 - 9:55 AM ET #38

    I dont think that Marky Mark can get any thing going with this Ravens D, But the same thing goes for Flaco, its gonna be tuff to get it going on the stingy Jets D. 

    Im gonna go with the Ravens here I think that with the depth at WR they will be able to move the ball better than the Jets, and getting points is even better.

    Ravens

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    I dont think that Marky Mark can get any thing going with this Ravens D, But the same thing goes for Flaco, its gonna be tuff to get it going on the stingy Jets D. 

    Im gonna go with the Ravens here I think that with the depth at WR they will be able to move the ball better than the Jets, and getting points is even better.

    Ravens

     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2010 - 11:35 AM ET #39

    UNDER
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    UNDER
     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2010 - 11:53 AM ET #40

    I have to go with the home team in a MNF opener.  I wonder how desperate the Jets are knowing that they could be the only team losing their first real game in a new home stadium...

    Jets-1

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    I have to go with the home team in a MNF opener.  I wonder how desperate the Jets are knowing that they could be the only team losing their first real game in a new home stadium...

    Jets-1

     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2010 - 12:27 PM ET #41

    NOT YETS   ravens win

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    NOT YETS   ravens win

     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2010 - 1:46 PM ET #42

    This is a game all about matchups...both teams obviously have great defenses so you have to disect a little more

    QB: Flacco

    RB: Ray Rice

    WR's favor Baltimore (Revis=out of shape)

    This is going to be come down to Rayvens offense vs Jets D, if Flacco can hold onto the ball and not commit any turnovers I like the Rayvens.  Sanchez could have sophmore slump and the Jets offense looked very shaky in preseason.  Hard Knocks showed that they were going full throttle and wanting to put up points. 

    Rayvens have veteran leadership that should help against rowdy crowd

    Rayvens +1

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    This is a game all about matchups...both teams obviously have great defenses so you have to disect a little more

    QB: Flacco

    RB: Ray Rice

    WR's favor Baltimore (Revis=out of shape)

    This is going to be come down to Rayvens offense vs Jets D, if Flacco can hold onto the ball and not commit any turnovers I like the Rayvens.  Sanchez could have sophmore slump and the Jets offense looked very shaky in preseason.  Hard Knocks showed that they were going full throttle and wanting to put up points. 

    Rayvens have veteran leadership that should help against rowdy crowd

    Rayvens +1

     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2010 - 2:11 PM ET #43

    RAVENS IN A CLOSE GAME........20-17
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    RAVENS IN A CLOSE GAME........20-17
     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2010 - 2:15 PM ET #44

    13-10 Balt.
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    13-10 Balt.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2010 - 3:06 PM ET #45

    Quote Originally Posted by MrMannix:

    I think Ray Rice is an overrated featured runningback. 
    To win this game Ravens are going to have to have a consistent threat on the ground to open the passing game on the blitz happy Jets defense. Flacco should keep them in the game with his receiving threats and possibly win it on late game heroics, but I see the Jets winning this FG type situation. 
    Gonna watch that line- see which way she sways.
    Wouldn't be surprised to see a shift there with the Revis signing, Hard Knocks airing, & all the public/media sh*t going on with the Jets lately.

    Ray Rice is an overrated runningback?

    Yeah. I'm surprised that that haven't cut him yet!!

     Mr. Mannix                                  

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMannix:

    I think Ray Rice is an overrated featured runningback. 
    To win this game Ravens are going to have to have a consistent threat on the ground to open the passing game on the blitz happy Jets defense. Flacco should keep them in the game with his receiving threats and possibly win it on late game heroics, but I see the Jets winning this FG type situation. 
    Gonna watch that line- see which way she sways.
    Wouldn't be surprised to see a shift there with the Revis signing, Hard Knocks airing, & all the public/media sh*t going on with the Jets lately.

    Ray Rice is an overrated runningback?

    Yeah. I'm surprised that that haven't cut him yet!!

     Mr. Mannix                                  

     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2010 - 3:42 PM ET #46

    I'm not gonna lie, i may switch to the Ravens tonight and buy out of my Jet pick...i dont feel right with the JETS after seeing the line movement at my book.
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    I'm not gonna lie, i may switch to the Ravens tonight and buy out of my Jet pick...i dont feel right with the JETS after seeing the line movement at my book.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2010 - 3:42 PM ET #47

    Ravens @ Jets -1 O/U 36.5 (-3, 38.5)

    Both teams were beaten by the Colts in postseason last yr.

    2009 Season Rankings were:
    Defense:
    Jets were #1  (14.6pt/gm 252 yds/gm) 
    Ravens were #3 (16.3pt/gm 261yds/gm)

    Offense:
    Jets were #20 (21.6pts 321yds) 
    Ravens were #13 (23.4 pts 351 yds)

    Jets were #31 in passing off (148.8 yds) #1 in rushing (172yds/gm)
    Ravens were #18 in passing (213 yds) #5 in rushing (137yds/gm)

    QB:
    Sanchez had rating of 63 and had 12 tds and tied for 2nd worst in Ints (20) 
    Flacco had rating of 88.9  with 21 tds and 12 Ints
    (for comparison of td,ints: Brady had 28,13, Brees had 34,11)

    Hype has been on the improved offense of the Ravens with the addition of Anquan Boldin and TJ Housh.

    Jets picked up Santonio Holmes and LaDanian Tomlinson. Shutdown corner D Revis just signed and didn't go through training camp but will play but how well? Since he has been sitting on the couch for the past month.

    And...Holmes who was dumped by the Steelers as damaged goods won't play, despite being the 09 Superbowl MVP and 79 receptions for 1,248yds(#7) last season. He is a self admitted former drug dealer, was arrested in 08 for possession and now has failed the "substance abuse policy" of the NFL and is suspended without pay for the 1st 4 Jets gms.

    Hey! Santonio time to stop "wake n bake" and maybe just drink coffee in the morning. If he fails drug testing again then he sits for a whole season. And stop throwing drink glasses at women at the club. Although, he is on the right team now based on what Ines Sainz is saying. Hey, I would "hoot and holler" at her too.

    Matchup of 2 of the leagues best defenses, and they mostly run on offense.

    So...looking at the kicking game, last yr Jets #3 in FG's made with 30 for 36, 83% (2nd highest atts), Ravens #22 21 for 30, 70%.

    BUT that was with Jay Feely who the Jets let go to AZ as free agent. NOW the Jets have Dallas cast off Nick Folk who after R hip surgery was 18 for 28 64% last year and missed an extra point in preseason. No wonder Dallas let him go, he missed a FG in 6 consecutive games last yr.

    Ravens win this on paper and the line has moved to -1 from -3, and the O/U has dropped.

    Sanchez should be more careful with the ball in his 2nd season but...I expect at least 1 int this game vs the shutdown Raven D. (Sanchez already has 2 ints in preseason)

    Ray Lewis is right the Jets are puffed up by the NY press and overrated.
    Taking the Ravens -1




     




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    Ravens @ Jets -1 O/U 36.5 (-3, 38.5)

    Both teams were beaten by the Colts in postseason last yr.

    2009 Season Rankings were:
    Defense:
    Jets were #1  (14.6pt/gm 252 yds/gm) 
    Ravens were #3 (16.3pt/gm 261yds/gm)

    Offense:
    Jets were #20 (21.6pts 321yds) 
    Ravens were #13 (23.4 pts 351 yds)

    Jets were #31 in passing off (148.8 yds) #1 in rushing (172yds/gm)
    Ravens were #18 in passing (213 yds) #5 in rushing (137yds/gm)

    QB:
    Sanchez had rating of 63 and had 12 tds and tied for 2nd worst in Ints (20) 
    Flacco had rating of 88.9  with 21 tds and 12 Ints
    (for comparison of td,ints: Brady had 28,13, Brees had 34,11)

    Hype has been on the improved offense of the Ravens with the addition of Anquan Boldin and TJ Housh.

    Jets picked up Santonio Holmes and LaDanian Tomlinson. Shutdown corner D Revis just signed and didn't go through training camp but will play but how well? Since he has been sitting on the couch for the past month.

    And...Holmes who was dumped by the Steelers as damaged goods won't play, despite being the 09 Superbowl MVP and 79 receptions for 1,248yds(#7) last season. He is a self admitted former drug dealer, was arrested in 08 for possession and now has failed the "substance abuse policy" of the NFL and is suspended without pay for the 1st 4 Jets gms.

    Hey! Santonio time to stop "wake n bake" and maybe just drink coffee in the morning. If he fails drug testing again then he sits for a whole season. And stop throwing drink glasses at women at the club. Although, he is on the right team now based on what Ines Sainz is saying. Hey, I would "hoot and holler" at her too.

    Matchup of 2 of the leagues best defenses, and they mostly run on offense.

    So...looking at the kicking game, last yr Jets #3 in FG's made with 30 for 36, 83% (2nd highest atts), Ravens #22 21 for 30, 70%.

    BUT that was with Jay Feely who the Jets let go to AZ as free agent. NOW the Jets have Dallas cast off Nick Folk who after R hip surgery was 18 for 28 64% last year and missed an extra point in preseason. No wonder Dallas let him go, he missed a FG in 6 consecutive games last yr.

    Ravens win this on paper and the line has moved to -1 from -3, and the O/U has dropped.

    Sanchez should be more careful with the ball in his 2nd season but...I expect at least 1 int this game vs the shutdown Raven D. (Sanchez already has 2 ints in preseason)

    Ray Lewis is right the Jets are puffed up by the NY press and overrated.
    Taking the Ravens -1




     




     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2010 - 3:46 PM ET #48

    BALTIMORE RAVENS +1.5 POINTS (2 UNITS)
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    BALTIMORE RAVENS +1.5 POINTS (2 UNITS)
     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2010 - 3:56 PM ET #49

    Ravens win this one in a shootout!! I'm a firm believer in games meant to be defensive games turning out to be offensive battles. I don't think this one is going to be any different. I really don't see how the Ravens drop this one to the Jets. The worst thing the Jets could have done is to fire up the Ravens team any more than they already are.

    Ravens & Over (Larger than last night)

    You'd think I'd have learned my lesson by now with the Cowboys! I knew better than to rely on this coaching staff! I preached it last year and it proves true again this year... The Cowboys have no dicipline and it starts with the coach!!!

    Good Luck to Everyone!!

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    Ravens win this one in a shootout!! I'm a firm believer in games meant to be defensive games turning out to be offensive battles. I don't think this one is going to be any different. I really don't see how the Ravens drop this one to the Jets. The worst thing the Jets could have done is to fire up the Ravens team any more than they already are.

    Ravens & Over (Larger than last night)

    You'd think I'd have learned my lesson by now with the Cowboys! I knew better than to rely on this coaching staff! I preached it last year and it proves true again this year... The Cowboys have no dicipline and it starts with the coach!!!

    Good Luck to Everyone!!

     
     
    dukeycat
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2010 - 4:00 PM ET #50

    Ravens +1, sorry
    Line has dropped to even, ouch!
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    Ravens +1, sorry
    Line has dropped to even, ouch!
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