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    Baltimore at New England (10/04/2009)

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    rekamyenoM
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2009 - 7:07 PM ET #26

    The Ravens' stats are based on playing the Chargers, Chiefs, and Browns. The Chiefs and Browns are TERRIBLE! The Chargers have hardly been world-beaters this year either. I am not saying that Buffalo is a great team. The Pats have struggled some this year, but the Falcons and Jets are both better than anyone the Ravens have played. Lets not put Flacco in Canton just yet. I also don't think this Raven's D is as good as 2007. In 2007 the Pats played the Ravens in one of 2 or 3 games McAllister and Rolle both played in. Plus, they had Bart Scott. Should be interesting, but I don't really think either team should be making Super Bowl plans if they win this one.
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    The Ravens' stats are based on playing the Chargers, Chiefs, and Browns. The Chiefs and Browns are TERRIBLE! The Chargers have hardly been world-beaters this year either. I am not saying that Buffalo is a great team. The Pats have struggled some this year, but the Falcons and Jets are both better than anyone the Ravens have played. Lets not put Flacco in Canton just yet. I also don't think this Raven's D is as good as 2007. In 2007 the Pats played the Ravens in one of 2 or 3 games McAllister and Rolle both played in. Plus, they had Bart Scott. Should be interesting, but I don't really think either team should be making Super Bowl plans if they win this one.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2009 - 9:27 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by rekamyenoM:

    The Ravens' stats are based on playing the Chargers, Chiefs, and Browns. The Chiefs and Browns are TERRIBLE! The Chargers have hardly been world-beaters this year either. I am not saying that Buffalo is a great team. The Pats have struggled some this year, but the Falcons and Jets are both better than anyone the Ravens have played. Lets not put Flacco in Canton just yet. I also don't think this Raven's D is as good as 2007. In 2007 the Pats played the Ravens in one of 2 or 3 games McAllister and Rolle both played in. Plus, they had Bart Scott. Should be interesting, but I don't really think either team should be making Super Bowl plans if they win this one.

    rekamyenom the big factor here is REVENGE for that game two years ago the RAVENS should have won and sent the Pats to 15-1 is still well remembered and you know who ( i think his last name is Lewis)  will have that D so fired up that i just can't see the Pats winning and they have been having trouble in the red zone this year and will be even tougher in this game. I just remember how pissed off Baltimore  were at the end of that game.  If you have the game locked in then good luck to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rekamyenoM:

    The Ravens' stats are based on playing the Chargers, Chiefs, and Browns. The Chiefs and Browns are TERRIBLE! The Chargers have hardly been world-beaters this year either. I am not saying that Buffalo is a great team. The Pats have struggled some this year, but the Falcons and Jets are both better than anyone the Ravens have played. Lets not put Flacco in Canton just yet. I also don't think this Raven's D is as good as 2007. In 2007 the Pats played the Ravens in one of 2 or 3 games McAllister and Rolle both played in. Plus, they had Bart Scott. Should be interesting, but I don't really think either team should be making Super Bowl plans if they win this one.

    rekamyenom the big factor here is REVENGE for that game two years ago the RAVENS should have won and sent the Pats to 15-1 is still well remembered and you know who ( i think his last name is Lewis)  will have that D so fired up that i just can't see the Pats winning and they have been having trouble in the red zone this year and will be even tougher in this game. I just remember how pissed off Baltimore  were at the end of that game.  If you have the game locked in then good luck to you.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2009 - 11:58 PM ET #28

    New England - 23                 Baltimore - 20
    Patriots -2                      under 44.5
    Brady over Flacco., barely
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    New England - 23                 Baltimore - 20
    Patriots -2                      under 44.5
    Brady over Flacco., barely
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2009 - 2:24 AM ET #29

    NE -1.5 (1u)
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    NE -1.5 (1u)
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2009 - 10:53 AM ET #30

    looking towin i posted that wrong buddy 8-1 i donno where the hell i put the 9 from.. i loaded up 15000 last week.. i dont care what you or anyone says i like the pats in this one but i will not be putting money on the game.. because a good gambler wouldnt throw his money on a game like this. there is plenty other for me but at the end i think brady will make something out of it
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    looking towin i posted that wrong buddy 8-1 i donno where the hell i put the 9 from.. i loaded up 15000 last week.. i dont care what you or anyone says i like the pats in this one but i will not be putting money on the game.. because a good gambler wouldnt throw his money on a game like this. there is plenty other for me but at the end i think brady will make something out of it
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2009 - 11:52 AM ET #31

    Hmmmmmm this could be a trap game

    BAL has beat CLE SD KC

    NE has beat ATL BUF (shouldn’t have) and lost to NYJ

    I’ll lean BAL here to cover

    Not one of my favs.

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    Hmmmmmm this could be a trap game

    BAL has beat CLE SD KC

    NE has beat ATL BUF (shouldn’t have) and lost to NYJ

    I’ll lean BAL here to cover

    Not one of my favs.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2009 - 3:08 PM ET #32

    Baltimore is ranked 1st in the power ranking for a reason.  They are the best team in the NFL.  Joe Flacco is playing superb and this is probably Baltimore's offense in a long time.  Their defense isn't as good as it was but they are still good.  I will wait to see what the weather looks like before choosing my O/U for this game.

    Baltimore +1
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    Baltimore is ranked 1st in the power ranking for a reason.  They are the best team in the NFL.  Joe Flacco is playing superb and this is probably Baltimore's offense in a long time.  Their defense isn't as good as it was but they are still good.  I will wait to see what the weather looks like before choosing my O/U for this game.

    Baltimore +1
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2009 - 4:58 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by lookingtowin:

    rekamyenom the big factor here is REVENGE for that game two years ago the RAVENS should have won and sent the Pats to 15-1 is still well remembered and you know who ( i think his last name is Lewis)  will have that D so fired up that i just can't see the Pats winning and they have been having trouble in the red zone this year and will be even tougher in this game. I just remember how pissed off Baltimore  were at the end of that game.  If you have the game locked in then good luck to you.



    REVENGE.... the single worst trend to bet on in NFL football.... revenge is meaningless.... everytime I have ever bet on REVENGE I have lost.... I learned my lesson years ago....

    that game was close and in my eyes the ravens really won that game...

    but they don't have shutdown corners anymore, and that was the strength of that defense....

    I agree with Moneymaker.... Ravens only impressive win was on the road in San Diego, with no Tomlinson....

    I say this is a close one and Brady pulls out a 2 min drive....

    If Welker plays that's more of a reason to choose the Pats, but either way I see NE winning in a close game....

    NE in the UNDER
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    Quote Originally Posted by lookingtowin:

    rekamyenom the big factor here is REVENGE for that game two years ago the RAVENS should have won and sent the Pats to 15-1 is still well remembered and you know who ( i think his last name is Lewis)  will have that D so fired up that i just can't see the Pats winning and they have been having trouble in the red zone this year and will be even tougher in this game. I just remember how pissed off Baltimore  were at the end of that game.  If you have the game locked in then good luck to you.



    REVENGE.... the single worst trend to bet on in NFL football.... revenge is meaningless.... everytime I have ever bet on REVENGE I have lost.... I learned my lesson years ago....

    that game was close and in my eyes the ravens really won that game...

    but they don't have shutdown corners anymore, and that was the strength of that defense....

    I agree with Moneymaker.... Ravens only impressive win was on the road in San Diego, with no Tomlinson....

    I say this is a close one and Brady pulls out a 2 min drive....

    If Welker plays that's more of a reason to choose the Pats, but either way I see NE winning in a close game....

    NE in the UNDER
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2009 - 6:26 PM ET #34

    Balt is the better team even on the road here. GL
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    Balt is the better team even on the road here. GL
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2009 - 7:48 PM ET #35

    This is setting up to be a big Patriots win.  I love the hype for the Ravens, and I will take the low points spread.
     
    New England covers easily at home. 
     
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    This is setting up to be a big Patriots win.  I love the hype for the Ravens, and I will take the low points spread.
     
    New England covers easily at home. 
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2009 - 11:31 PM ET #36

    Baltimore Ravens @ New England Patriots

    Baltimore has never won against New England, but I think this time it will be different. The Ravens are playing very well in all the important sectors in the field. QB Joe Flacco has improved a lot, much more confident on his decisions during this year, thanks to the time his OL provides him to take the best calls and also because he has good offensive players to which he can deliver his passes.

    This improvement on the Baltimore's Offense, playing very well both on the passing game and on the rushing game as well, offsets the lower performance of the Ravens D, by far their strongest spot. We could say that the Baltimore's Defence is weaker because they suffer a lot more points than on the previous season, but for me that is not the real reason: in fact, the Ravens D is attacking a lot more, taking more risks. And when they are called to win a game, like it happened on week 2, Ravens D was outstanding, earning a winner. Baltimore has one of the best defenses of the NFL, if not even the best of the league.

    Curiously the Patriots have been very good on the Defense, but they are playing very poor on the Offense, which is the opposite of the Ravens performances. When in the early season everything pointed to some  struggle on the defense and a show of force on the offense, we are getting the opposite. The reason why the Pats O is not doing well is due to lack of form of their QB Tom Brady, which hasn't returned to his good old self. Only when that happens, New England will become again a great offensive powerhouse, something that I believe will happen someday this season, but not on this match.

    Wes Welker is missing due to injury, he is a very important player for Brady, we still don't know for sure if he will play in this game, the reports I've got say that he hasn't practiced, which is never a good sign. The Pats have played poorly on the passing game, but on the rushing game they are doing very well, but for this match, they will face the best ground defense team in the NFL and the Ravens will make things very hard for the Pats' rushers.

    This is a game where Baltimore shows up at a superior level than New England, the Ravens have a great Defense and their Offense has delivered the goods with a lot of points scored, but for this game, life won't be easy for the Ravens, because the Patriots are defending very well, but the New England's offense is having a lot of troubles on the air and their winners were due to their rushing game, which will have a very difficult time against the best ground defense team in the league, and that is why I see a win on the road for the Baltimore Ravens.


    Pick: Baltimore Ravens +1,5 -110 (1,91) Bookmaker

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    Baltimore Ravens @ New England Patriots

    Baltimore has never won against New England, but I think this time it will be different. The Ravens are playing very well in all the important sectors in the field. QB Joe Flacco has improved a lot, much more confident on his decisions during this year, thanks to the time his OL provides him to take the best calls and also because he has good offensive players to which he can deliver his passes.

    This improvement on the Baltimore's Offense, playing very well both on the passing game and on the rushing game as well, offsets the lower performance of the Ravens D, by far their strongest spot. We could say that the Baltimore's Defence is weaker because they suffer a lot more points than on the previous season, but for me that is not the real reason: in fact, the Ravens D is attacking a lot more, taking more risks. And when they are called to win a game, like it happened on week 2, Ravens D was outstanding, earning a winner. Baltimore has one of the best defenses of the NFL, if not even the best of the league.

    Curiously the Patriots have been very good on the Defense, but they are playing very poor on the Offense, which is the opposite of the Ravens performances. When in the early season everything pointed to some  struggle on the defense and a show of force on the offense, we are getting the opposite. The reason why the Pats O is not doing well is due to lack of form of their QB Tom Brady, which hasn't returned to his good old self. Only when that happens, New England will become again a great offensive powerhouse, something that I believe will happen someday this season, but not on this match.

    Wes Welker is missing due to injury, he is a very important player for Brady, we still don't know for sure if he will play in this game, the reports I've got say that he hasn't practiced, which is never a good sign. The Pats have played poorly on the passing game, but on the rushing game they are doing very well, but for this match, they will face the best ground defense team in the NFL and the Ravens will make things very hard for the Pats' rushers.

    This is a game where Baltimore shows up at a superior level than New England, the Ravens have a great Defense and their Offense has delivered the goods with a lot of points scored, but for this game, life won't be easy for the Ravens, because the Patriots are defending very well, but the New England's offense is having a lot of troubles on the air and their winners were due to their rushing game, which will have a very difficult time against the best ground defense team in the league, and that is why I see a win on the road for the Baltimore Ravens.


    Pick: Baltimore Ravens +1,5 -110 (1,91) Bookmaker

     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2009 - 12:06 AM ET #37

    I'll take Ravens. Not because they have a madd D. I still think Patriots can give up points despite a good Falcons poor performance last week.
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    I'll take Ravens. Not because they have a madd D. I still think Patriots can give up points despite a good Falcons poor performance last week.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2009 - 8:50 AM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:



    REVENGE.... the single worst trend to bet on in NFL football.... revenge is meaningless.... everytime I have ever bet on REVENGE I have lost.... I learned my lesson years ago....

    that game was close and in my eyes the ravens really won that game...

    but they don't have shutdown corners anymore, and that was the strength of that defense....

    I agree with Moneymaker.... Ravens only impressive win was on the road in San Diego, with no Tomlinson....

    I say this is a close one and Brady pulls out a 2 min drive....

    If Welker plays that's more of a reason to choose the Pats, but either way I see NE winning in a close game....

    NE in the UNDER

    You are right this is going to be a  a close one and REVENGE from that  game two years ago will be the factor the Ravens win it. You have to have a player like RAY LEWIS to inact the revenge factor and he will have that whole team pumped.  The only way the Pats win is if Ravens let Brady set in the pocket all day long and i don't think thats going to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:



    REVENGE.... the single worst trend to bet on in NFL football.... revenge is meaningless.... everytime I have ever bet on REVENGE I have lost.... I learned my lesson years ago....

    that game was close and in my eyes the ravens really won that game...

    but they don't have shutdown corners anymore, and that was the strength of that defense....

    I agree with Moneymaker.... Ravens only impressive win was on the road in San Diego, with no Tomlinson....

    I say this is a close one and Brady pulls out a 2 min drive....

    If Welker plays that's more of a reason to choose the Pats, but either way I see NE winning in a close game....

    NE in the UNDER

    You are right this is going to be a  a close one and REVENGE from that  game two years ago will be the factor the Ravens win it. You have to have a player like RAY LEWIS to inact the revenge factor and he will have that whole team pumped.  The only way the Pats win is if Ravens let Brady set in the pocket all day long and i don't think thats going to happen.

     
    danstyk
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    Revenge my ass.  Flacco and Ray Rice weren't even on the team then.  Half of the Patriots D didn't play in that game either.  Even if it was only last week, this game is THIS week.  Balt does not want it more than NE does.  Considering the Pats -2 but it is not a no-brainer.

    Speaking of no-brainers, just saw this on the injury report"

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    Revenge my ass.  Flacco and Ray Rice weren't even on the team then.  Half of the Patriots D didn't play in that game either.  Even if it was only last week, this game is THIS week.  Balt does not want it more than NE does.  Considering the Pats -2 but it is not a no-brainer.

    Speaking of no-brainers, just saw this on the injury report"

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    Head?
     
    danstyk
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2009 - 9:22 AM ET #40

    Not sure what happened there, but it was Ray Lewis listed with a head injury.   Of course he'll play, but wondering what that was about.
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    Not sure what happened there, but it was Ray Lewis listed with a head injury.   Of course he'll play, but wondering what that was about.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2009 - 9:50 AM ET #41

    Its supposed to be 68 degrees in foxboro with a 20% chance of rain.  I think the winner gets 30 or more, I'll take the over and hope for a close, high schoring game.  Pats D looks weak thus far, and I've heard Tom Brady can score TD's! 
     
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    Its supposed to be 68 degrees in foxboro with a 20% chance of rain.  I think the winner gets 30 or more, I'll take the over and hope for a close, high schoring game.  Pats D looks weak thus far, and I've heard Tom Brady can score TD's! 
     
    OVER 44.5
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by danstyk:

    Revenge my ass.  Flacco and Ray Rice weren't even on the team then.  Half of the Patriots D didn't play in that game either.  Even if it was only last week, this game is THIS week.  Balt does not want it more than NE does.  Considering the Pats -2 but it is not a no-brainer.

    Speaking of no-brainers, just saw this on the injury report"

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    I'm not sure what playing in that game has to do with Revenge those two are now Ravens and so they feed on the hype.  Anyways you think the Pats are going to win and i think the Ravens will win this contest.  Like G.B. - Min, SD - Pitt, Jets- Saints, Den - Dallas, there are a few toss the coin games this week but only one game were the last time they played the Ravens had their heart rip out of their chests in the last few seconds they totally outplayed the Pats in that game and suck ass Brady found a way to win in the last seconds as they did in their last few games that year.  Give me the Ravens i hope Brady eats dirt all game.  I'm sick of Billacheat and his Pats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danstyk:

    Revenge my ass.  Flacco and Ray Rice weren't even on the team then.  Half of the Patriots D didn't play in that game either.  Even if it was only last week, this game is THIS week.  Balt does not want it more than NE does.  Considering the Pats -2 but it is not a no-brainer.

    Speaking of no-brainers, just saw this on the injury report"

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    Head?

    I'm not sure what playing in that game has to do with Revenge those two are now Ravens and so they feed on the hype.  Anyways you think the Pats are going to win and i think the Ravens will win this contest.  Like G.B. - Min, SD - Pitt, Jets- Saints, Den - Dallas, there are a few toss the coin games this week but only one game were the last time they played the Ravens had their heart rip out of their chests in the last few seconds they totally outplayed the Pats in that game and suck ass Brady found a way to win in the last seconds as they did in their last few games that year.  Give me the Ravens i hope Brady eats dirt all game.  I'm sick of Billacheat and his Pats.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2009 - 11:26 AM ET #43

    PATS AT HOME -1.5 ALL ABOARD!
     

    NFL WEEK 1 ATS  (5-11)

    NFL WEEK 2 ATS (5-1-10)

    NFL WEEK 3 ATS (9-7)

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    PATS AT HOME -1.5 ALL ABOARD!
     

    NFL WEEK 1 ATS  (5-11)

    NFL WEEK 2 ATS (5-1-10)

    NFL WEEK 3 ATS (9-7)

     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2009 - 11:32 AM ET #44

    RAVENS
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    RAVENS
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2009 - 12:03 PM ET #45

    BAL +1 BOL
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    BAL +1 BOL
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2009 - 12:03 PM ET #46

    Over 45
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    Over 45
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2009 - 12:10 PM ET #47

    Love the Pats here.  They are getting no respect and the defense is getting poo pooed......They will play well today, just like last week and take care of another undefeated team.  It might not be pretty, but it will be a win.
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    Love the Pats here.  They are getting no respect and the defense is getting poo pooed......They will play well today, just like last week and take care of another undefeated team.  It might not be pretty, but it will be a win.
     
    hockeytown71
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2009 - 12:13 PM ET #48

    Ravens come down to earth. hard not to take belichek -1 at home.
    Pats -1
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    Ravens come down to earth. hard not to take belichek -1 at home.
    Pats -1
     
    mannyfanny
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2009 - 12:29 PM ET #49

    pats
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    pats
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2009 - 12:38 PM ET #50

    I took the Ravens and the line is strait up.
    Everyone is living in the Pattsies past....
    Even if Even if Wes Walker does play???
    If you think the Jets D shook up Brady,, here come the Ravens!!!!
    If it's trap they got me?
     
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    I took the Ravens and the line is strait up.
    Everyone is living in the Pattsies past....
    Even if Even if Wes Walker does play???
    If you think the Jets D shook up Brady,, here come the Ravens!!!!
    If it's trap they got me?
     
    BOL & Cheers!!
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