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browns44

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Posted: Jan. 4, 2009 - 9:12 AM ET #126

I believe the Fins had best turnover ratio this year, also if you look back at the first time they played Balt in October they had 359 total yards,and Ravens came into that game off playing Pitt,Tenn,and Indy..a huge step down in class at that time.It was also revenge for Baltimore based on Fins only win last year was aginst them. Ravens are also just 1-5 against playoff teams this and Fins are 1-2,and of those 3, San Diego and Arizona both won yesterday. You saw what happened to the rookie QB and coach combination yesterday. My only negative on Miami is the weak schedule down the strecth,but they won them all. Take the Fins plus the points!

duffield550

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Posted: Jan. 4, 2009 - 9:16 AM ET #127

Who's going to kick BAL's field goals?

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The better bet is PHI over MINN easy.

silverbull271

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Posted: Jan. 4, 2009 - 9:36 AM ET #128

Quote Originally Posted by silverbull271:

I see a lot of W's next to Miami in their recent games.....but is it just me or does that look like a "cupcake" of a schedule on paper?

BALT-3.5

Im thinking about changing my pick..........

Fish+4 (bought hook)

Bobup

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Posted: Jan. 4, 2009 - 9:40 AM ET #129

The Baltimore Ravens to beat the FINS

silverbull271

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Posted: Jan. 4, 2009 - 9:57 AM ET #130

Quote Originally Posted by Bobup:

The Baltimore Ravens to beat the FINS

I dont know bro....seems that the home teams this postseason are bringing in the Wins for the home crowd

tileman999

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Posted: Jan. 4, 2009 - 9:58 AM ET #131

This game scares the hell out of me. I cant find an edge either way. Bal. did have a pick six in first game which sent it over. Bal. stover is hurting. Gonna tease miami and under. GL

ncrum

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Posted: Jan. 4, 2009 - 10:10 AM ET #132

Quote Originally Posted by tagsrock:

wo wo wo just a minute with the pathetic offence shit, incase you forgot about fast ass willie gault, sweatness,matt suhey,kevin butler, the td machine known as he fridge,

First, I love my Bears so keep in mind the tone of my message. That said, they won 4 games that year by scoring 20 or less points and if you watched the games, the defense scored as many points as the offense did by turnovers, field position, etc. Yes they had some cool, great players on offense but the truth is the won games based on their defense. The point is.... this is not the same situation as yesterday's rookie QB versus a veteran QB. Ravens are not as dependent on thier QB as Atlanta was.

Wise-Degenerate

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Posted: Jan. 4, 2009 - 10:11 AM ET #133

Taking Miami and Philly today

ncrum

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Posted: Jan. 4, 2009 - 10:13 AM ET #134

Quote Originally Posted by tagsrock:

dont forget morehead and mkinnon and the great o line bro. heres a lil something for you bro https://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=765019771919333912

Tagsrock, wasn't that the coolest thing any Super Bowl champs have done? The incredible thing was the filmed this the day after the Dolphins beat them, well before the playoffs even started and after taking their first loss of the season. Talk about destiny!!! Our Bears were the best that year.

Wise-Degenerate

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Posted: Jan. 4, 2009 - 10:16 AM ET #135

Quote Originally Posted by W8LIFTER:

Trust in W8 on this one bro. The Eagles are a different bird going into Minny especially if Tavaris Jackson is starting at QB. Hell they barely got by the Giants with mostly backups playing in the second half of that game. Should be enough said there. Hence that dog will hunt! Only road team to cover this weekend. . .

Straighty W 8 TY. I am with you Bro.

Irisheyez

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Posted: Jan. 4, 2009 - 10:23 AM ET #136

Well first off I need to wish my friends BigDaddy and Fish Naked good luck on the game today and I hope you enjoy watching your Fins in the playoffs. It's been awhile and I'm sure you are both jacked up for it!

CROD21

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Posted: Jan. 4, 2009 - 10:31 AM ET #137

Mr Irisheyez let's enjoy our Eagles today.

Irisheyez

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Posted: Jan. 4, 2009 - 10:34 AM ET #138

With the well wishes being said, sincere as they are, I can't see Miami winning this game.......well I guess I could see it.......I just don't think they will. Miami ranks in the middle of the NFL in both offense and defense. They are 8-8 ATS and actually struggled mostly at home, going 2-6 ATS this year. Meanwhile, Balt ranks #2 in defense and 4th in the league running the ball. They own a 12-4 ATS record this year and have a better overall offense than most people and cappers credit them for. They also have a 9-5-1 record on the OVER........not bad for a team that "relies on defense and running the football and keeping the scoring low to win." I saw some talking head on tv say that last night and I wanted to get sick.

This game was dominated by Balt earlier in the year in the same venue. The game went over the total at 35.5 and made it to 40 total points. I believe Miami plays much better in this game today and the total is pushed over again. But I will be banging on Balt.........I believe they win by 6-13 points today. GL to everyone and stop by my page and say hi and let me know what you think about the games today!!

Romo1065

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Posted: Jan. 4, 2009 - 10:45 AM ET #139

getting 3+.5 is huge here. i'm definitely on the fins.

i know people believe flacco isn't as important to his offense as ryan is, but miami will make flacco win this game. i still do see the ravens being able to pull this out but not by more than 3. 20-17 ravens imo.

taking miami here but not as large as ari & sd yesterday

csp

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Posted: Jan. 4, 2009 - 10:47 AM ET #140

Miami +3.5 for me. GL ALL

CrimsonSteel

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Posted: Jan. 4, 2009 - 10:54 AM ET #141

Whatever happens in this game I'll be doing the exact opposite of the public....Last night Vegas made all their money back and then some by SD winning outright and the under coming in.

It's playoff time.....where Vegas makes up for losing so much during the regular season. The teams/players really don't decide the outcome. Refs...And Vegas.

GL 2 ALL

BD-We'll be rooting for your fins today back in the Burgh....

ncrum

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Posted: Jan. 4, 2009 - 11:01 AM ET #142

Quote Originally Posted by ncrum:

Baltimore's schedule in my mind was much tougher although they were not that successful. They played 9 playoff teams and won just 2 of those...Miami and Philly. Miami played only three and they one 1 against SD in their first game.

Two points here:

1. I need to correct myself. The Ravens played 7 regular season against playoff teams not 9. They won 2 of them. (they played 2 other playoff teams in pre-season but we can't count them.) Miami played 3 playoff teams and won just 1. Yeah Miami is 9-1 in their last 10 games but none were against playoff teams.

2. Phancard and other threaders...I am seeing a lot of people on both the Ravens and Eagles threads warning about taking road favorites based on yesterday's play and that home teams are the way to go. Now don't get me wrong...I strongly believe in taking the home team EVERY chance I can. But to say take the home teams based on yesterday is close to moronic.

Last year in round one:

2 home teams won

2 road teams lost

I believe the two road team winners were even DOGS, not favorites.

If we could pick winners by just merely taking the home teams we wouldn't need to read all the advice and opinions on these threads. Just bet the home teams and win. Well, its not the easy either.

I am still leaning on the Ravens and Eagles but the one main thing that keeps me from pulling the trigger is that they are playing on the road. Man, I hate watching a game when I have the road team and listening to that crowd root against me.

ncrum

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Posted: Jan. 4, 2009 - 11:05 AM ET #143

Quote Originally Posted by Irisheyez:

Irisheyez, I am with you on this game. I posted my rationale in earlier thread ... let's bring this one home while others think they see a "trend" due to yesterday's home winners, we will surprise them when they find out home teams don't necessarily HAVE to go 4-0 and seldom do in the playoffs. Like I said before last year it was 2-2 and the two winners were road DOGS not even road favorites.

ncrum

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Posted: Jan. 4, 2009 - 11:11 AM ET #144

Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonSteel:

Whatever happens in this game I'll be doing the exact opposite of the public....Last night Vegas made all their money back and then some by SD winning outright and the under coming in.

It's playoff time.....where Vegas makes up for losing so much during the regular season. The teams/players really don't decide the outcome. Refs...And Vegas.

GL 2 ALL

BD-We'll be rooting for your fins today back in the Burgh....

Man, did you see different games than I did? SD got some very tough calls against them last night until the overtime where they did get some nice calls their way, although the calls were correct except perhaps the holding call. That may have been correct but many refs in my opinion would have let that call go. Nevertheless, SD clearly outplayed Indy last night and if they had not turned the ball over twice in the endzone (one on a questionalble call that went Indy's way) this game would have not been close.

DyHardBillsFan

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Posted: Jan. 4, 2009 - 11:20 AM ET #145

Baltimore and Philly today guys

agent0

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Posted: Jan. 4, 2009 - 11:32 AM ET #146

Quote Originally Posted by Fpronk:

Dude, I know we had our differences in the past, but this is a great post..I mean you really hit the nail on the head. The Miami Def and special teams as played well this year and the Dolphins. I know you can't over look the Ravens DEF but don't look at this game as an easy winner by taking the Ravens.

thx

bentladdle

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Posted: Jan. 4, 2009 - 11:36 AM ET #147

Miami and the over if it does not go over 38. Unit G made a good point. Rookies in the playoffs are a liability. Also, coaching is a factor and I think Dolphins have the edge. Criison Steele is right on about SD and Vegas making money. I live in Vegas and the books are happy as clams that Indy lost. This line should be a pick or .5 to 1 for the Ravens. I see Miami playing run, trick plays and if they score first they win. Of course DyHardBillsFan will take Baltimore. Most Bills fans would.

Go Shula

ICEman83

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Posted: Jan. 4, 2009 - 11:39 AM ET #148

Balt and the over......

ncrum

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Posted: Jan. 4, 2009 - 11:40 AM ET #149

Interesting info on past 4 years for the first round of playoff results on who wins...home teams versus road teams. Wish I could say this was against the spread results, but these were just straight up. The point is, road teams can and do win playoff teams:

Home team record listed first, road team second:

2004 1-3

2005 1-3

2006 4-0

2007 2-2

Radiators

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Posted: Jan. 4, 2009 - 11:44 AM ET #150

Quote Originally Posted by jgenti:

hey its rad+iator ='s ball bag. i faded u tonight and won thanks buddy ol pal

Dude get out of my face you little punk, stop copying things I say and talking trash. I had Chargers and Under look it up. you are so out of your element its rediculous. Go play with your Tonka trucks you little punk.

GET A LIFE PUNK RICE RIDER

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