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    Baltimore at Cleveland (11/16/2009)

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    Philly215
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2009 - 4:29 PM ET #76

    I need the under to win my pool, but a staight up Clev win will do it as well.  I know ima get fugged again on the MNF total tiebreaker, shoulda never switched the Birds with the Packers last minute and I already woulda had it locked up.

    How bout them skins and panthers!! All over it.

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    I need the under to win my pool, but a staight up Clev win will do it as well.  I know ima get fugged again on the MNF total tiebreaker, shoulda never switched the Birds with the Packers last minute and I already woulda had it locked up.

    How bout them skins and panthers!! All over it.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2009 - 4:29 PM ET #77

    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:

    look deeper my friend.... Baltimore was HOME.... this is in the DogPound...

    and if you look at the match-up history you'll find that Cleveland has never lost to the Ravens by 11 at home....

    If this were in Balt big difference, and the spread would be more, but I would not take Cleveland...

    then take a look at the MNF HOME DOG DOUBLE DIGIT TREND...

    then consider how well Cleveland Plays historically on Monday Night Football....

    Baltimore defense was also much better last year....

    Cribbs will make this game interesting mark my words....

     

    LOVE THE OVER!!!!!!!!!

    GL TO ALL!

     

    You nailed it - just watch - the majority of the people in here will go "WOW!!!! ONLY 10.5!!!!! I'M JUMPING ON THE RAVENS BEFORE THIS LINE HITS 25!!!!!! RAVENS 50 BROWNS 3!!!!!!"

    These are the same nutjobs who yesterday pounded Atlanta, New Orleans, N.Y. Jets, Miami, etc. - and also think teams like the Florida Gators and the Texas Longhorns are always going to cover that 30 points they have to give up every game.

    Even though Man-Gina is a huge douche, and the Browns do suck donkey-balls, they're still an NFL team, and 10.5 is just too many points to pass up, at home, against a "defensive but not necessarily offensive" minded Ravens, and on a National televised game.

    I think the Browns show up, and I like the over.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:

    look deeper my friend.... Baltimore was HOME.... this is in the DogPound...

    and if you look at the match-up history you'll find that Cleveland has never lost to the Ravens by 11 at home....

    If this were in Balt big difference, and the spread would be more, but I would not take Cleveland...

    then take a look at the MNF HOME DOG DOUBLE DIGIT TREND...

    then consider how well Cleveland Plays historically on Monday Night Football....

    Baltimore defense was also much better last year....

    Cribbs will make this game interesting mark my words....

     

    LOVE THE OVER!!!!!!!!!

    GL TO ALL!

     

    You nailed it - just watch - the majority of the people in here will go "WOW!!!! ONLY 10.5!!!!! I'M JUMPING ON THE RAVENS BEFORE THIS LINE HITS 25!!!!!! RAVENS 50 BROWNS 3!!!!!!"

    These are the same nutjobs who yesterday pounded Atlanta, New Orleans, N.Y. Jets, Miami, etc. - and also think teams like the Florida Gators and the Texas Longhorns are always going to cover that 30 points they have to give up every game.

    Even though Man-Gina is a huge douche, and the Browns do suck donkey-balls, they're still an NFL team, and 10.5 is just too many points to pass up, at home, against a "defensive but not necessarily offensive" minded Ravens, and on a National televised game.

    I think the Browns show up, and I like the over.....

     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2009 - 4:38 PM ET #78

    I believe that Clevland needs to stick with Brady.  Brady is very smart.....something that is absolutely essential to play as an NFL QB.....He's the stronger of the two QB's.......problem is they have nothing around the horn for him to use.  rookie and first year wideouts......bad backs.......bad line......average D.......I expect emotion and the fact that the fans want Brady and by most accounts I think the team does.......That should be enough for Clev to get over 7 points in the first half which is my favorite bet of the night.....besides Balt to roll them by 11 or more!!!
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    I believe that Clevland needs to stick with Brady.  Brady is very smart.....something that is absolutely essential to play as an NFL QB.....He's the stronger of the two QB's.......problem is they have nothing around the horn for him to use.  rookie and first year wideouts......bad backs.......bad line......average D.......I expect emotion and the fact that the fans want Brady and by most accounts I think the team does.......That should be enough for Clev to get over 7 points in the first half which is my favorite bet of the night.....besides Balt to roll them by 11 or more!!!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2009 - 4:54 PM ET #79

    Off rip Bal was a lock but after further review cle plays big on monday night. take the points an the over. 27-20 final.  cle should score a meaningless td to wrap up the game. really iffy but im up big this week. glta 
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    Off rip Bal was a lock but after further review cle plays big on monday night. take the points an the over. 27-20 final.  cle should score a meaningless td to wrap up the game. really iffy but im up big this week. glta 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2009 - 4:57 PM ET #80

    Baltimore is thought of as a great "D" team......they were last year. One of Baltimore's problems is they're still reading last years clippings.  This is a must win for Ravens but they have Peyton comming to town next week.  This the Browms last chance to not be the laughing stock of the NFL on natl. tv. 2 weeks to bring Brady along, the Browns can score 20 at home vs. Ravens...........this one's going over 39.
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    Baltimore is thought of as a great "D" team......they were last year. One of Baltimore's problems is they're still reading last years clippings.  This is a must win for Ravens but they have Peyton comming to town next week.  This the Browms last chance to not be the laughing stock of the NFL on natl. tv. 2 weeks to bring Brady along, the Browns can score 20 at home vs. Ravens...........this one's going over 39.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2009 - 5:03 PM ET #81

    OVER with the RAVENS in a small TEASE... I live in MD and love the Ravens BUT 10.5 on the road on MNF is too risky for a team that hasn't performed well the past 3 weeks. GL all.

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    OVER with the RAVENS in a small TEASE... I live in MD and love the Ravens BUT 10.5 on the road on MNF is too risky for a team that hasn't performed well the past 3 weeks. GL all.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2009 - 5:05 PM ET #82

    division, rivalry game, MNF, both offenses stink ... i think any scoring will be a direct result of special teams and turnovers ... this one goes under the number ...

     Good Luck with your wagers !!!!

    anna31204

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    division, rivalry game, MNF, both offenses stink ... i think any scoring will be a direct result of special teams and turnovers ... this one goes under the number ...

     Good Luck with your wagers !!!!

    anna31204

     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2009 - 5:11 PM ET #83

    On a (somewhat) sidenote:

    Along w/ Harvin and Crabtree, Massaquoi is one of my favorite wide-outs of this season's rookie class.  I love that he's a former Bulldog, too.  Great fit for this new-look Browns receiving corps.  

    If Cleveland shows up tonight, you can bet he'll be involved in some big plays.

    P.S.  The 'B' stands for BALLS.
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    On a (somewhat) sidenote:

    Along w/ Harvin and Crabtree, Massaquoi is one of my favorite wide-outs of this season's rookie class.  I love that he's a former Bulldog, too.  Great fit for this new-look Browns receiving corps.  

    If Cleveland shows up tonight, you can bet he'll be involved in some big plays.

    P.S.  The 'B' stands for BALLS.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2009 - 5:18 PM ET #84

    I am putting a small wager on this game...

     

    I think the Browns will keep it close within 10.5...

     

    by no means is this a large play...

     

    But it's monday night football... and I'm a degenerate and can't stay away...  and I'm rooting for the underdog....

    so why not go against the public and take the home dog of 10.5 for a small play?

     

    The largest loss of my career came when Ed Reed intercepted Jeff Garcia for the longest td in the history of the game.... then he did it again last year LOL... I got massacred that night... so I go into this matchup with caution...

    I know these 2 teams well... and don't forget about the history of these 2 franchises.... nevermind the division rivalry... this is a city rivalry as well....

     

    I gotta take the points...

     

    Final Score Baltimore 27 Browns 17... and I cover by a half of point

    GL TO ALL!

     

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    I am putting a small wager on this game...

     

    I think the Browns will keep it close within 10.5...

     

    by no means is this a large play...

     

    But it's monday night football... and I'm a degenerate and can't stay away...  and I'm rooting for the underdog....

    so why not go against the public and take the home dog of 10.5 for a small play?

     

    The largest loss of my career came when Ed Reed intercepted Jeff Garcia for the longest td in the history of the game.... then he did it again last year LOL... I got massacred that night... so I go into this matchup with caution...

    I know these 2 teams well... and don't forget about the history of these 2 franchises.... nevermind the division rivalry... this is a city rivalry as well....

     

    I gotta take the points...

     

    Final Score Baltimore 27 Browns 17... and I cover by a half of point

    GL TO ALL!

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2009 - 5:18 PM ET #85

    One more thing:

    Does anybody local have a bead on the weather conditions for tonight.  Thx. 
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    One more thing:

    Does anybody local have a bead on the weather conditions for tonight.  Thx. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2009 - 5:27 PM ET #86

    if this goes up to 11.5 I'm teasing it to 17.5....

     

    Pickinvet... where are you for this primetime play?

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    if this goes up to 11.5 I'm teasing it to 17.5....

     

    Pickinvet... where are you for this primetime play?

     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2009 - 5:31 PM ET #87

    Quote Originally Posted by Cgizzle41:

    This game sucks a fat one but I'm a degenerate so I'll bet Browns +11 and hope they do show up here for Monday Night.  Just wish they still had Braylon so he can have his one good game of the year tonight. 




    BROWNS +10.5 or 11 and if you got ginormous balls take CLE ML




    Allright - I did it. Browns M/L. It's a bet! Yes, but hear me out, I did go small, very small, I mean when I say small, I mean small small small - - all right, I did it for $10.00, but still - at +450, that's a possible $45.00 of beer money this week as opposed to $10.00!!! Hopefully I'm drinking Sam Adams for the Panthers / Dolphins Thursday night instead of PBR!!!!!


    GO BROWNS!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cgizzle41:

    This game sucks a fat one but I'm a degenerate so I'll bet Browns +11 and hope they do show up here for Monday Night.  Just wish they still had Braylon so he can have his one good game of the year tonight. 




    BROWNS +10.5 or 11 and if you got ginormous balls take CLE ML




    Allright - I did it. Browns M/L. It's a bet! Yes, but hear me out, I did go small, very small, I mean when I say small, I mean small small small - - all right, I did it for $10.00, but still - at +450, that's a possible $45.00 of beer money this week as opposed to $10.00!!! Hopefully I'm drinking Sam Adams for the Panthers / Dolphins Thursday night instead of PBR!!!!!


    GO BROWNS!!!!!!!!!!!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2009 - 5:46 PM ET #88

    Doesn't vegas know that Cleveland is 1-7 with SIX of those loses being double digits.  Doesn't vegas know that the Browns have scored over 14 points in exactly TWO games.

    Doesn't vegas know that the Ravens have already won three games by double digits (albeit all at home), including against the Browns.  Doesn't vegas know that they are coming off a big loss to Cincinnati and want to stomp a mud hole in Cleveland.

    No way the Ravens don't cover 10.5!!  How could Vegas miss all thsi stuff (sure am glad I'm smarter than the book makers).  We should all grab it before Vegas realizes what a mistake they made.  This is a gift from the betting gods.

    But with 70% going Baltimore, why hasn't the line moved?  Just because I don't believe in gifts...

    BROWNS +10.5

     

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    Doesn't vegas know that Cleveland is 1-7 with SIX of those loses being double digits.  Doesn't vegas know that the Browns have scored over 14 points in exactly TWO games.

    Doesn't vegas know that the Ravens have already won three games by double digits (albeit all at home), including against the Browns.  Doesn't vegas know that they are coming off a big loss to Cincinnati and want to stomp a mud hole in Cleveland.

    No way the Ravens don't cover 10.5!!  How could Vegas miss all thsi stuff (sure am glad I'm smarter than the book makers).  We should all grab it before Vegas realizes what a mistake they made.  This is a gift from the betting gods.

    But with 70% going Baltimore, why hasn't the line moved?  Just because I don't believe in gifts...

    BROWNS +10.5

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2009 - 5:51 PM ET #89

    How can this game be over, is the O/U even higher than the last time they meet?.
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    How can this game be over, is the O/U even higher than the last time they meet?.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2009 - 6:10 PM ET #90

    Baltimore better cover I have money on those fuckers tonight.
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    Baltimore better cover I have money on those fuckers tonight.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2009 - 6:19 PM ET #91

    Quote Originally Posted by shygorilla384:

    Sunday Night Football was a huge over.  Usually, that means MNF is going to be under.  You have a struggling Baltimore and a pathetic Cleveland.  Sure, Baltimore has their defense, but unless they start running back interceptions I could see this as being an under game.  Argh!!!!  I'm so undecided about this game.  GLTA


    7 games apply to this scenario(take out wk1 and wk8). 4 of the scenarios they ended the same either both over or under. 3 if 1 went over, the other night stayed under. don't use this method to wager on games. if you must, i would like to book the action. horrible thought process for wagering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shygorilla384:

    Sunday Night Football was a huge over.  Usually, that means MNF is going to be under.  You have a struggling Baltimore and a pathetic Cleveland.  Sure, Baltimore has their defense, but unless they start running back interceptions I could see this as being an under game.  Argh!!!!  I'm so undecided about this game.  GLTA


    7 games apply to this scenario(take out wk1 and wk8). 4 of the scenarios they ended the same either both over or under. 3 if 1 went over, the other night stayed under. don't use this method to wager on games. if you must, i would like to book the action. horrible thought process for wagering.
     
    joseq1800
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2009 - 6:27 PM ET #92

    Look for a repeat of the Bal-Den Game for the Ravens. stellar D and good scoring. After  watching yesterdays upsets Baltomore does not want to be embarrassed on MNF. Ravens

    BIG

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    Look for a repeat of the Bal-Den Game for the Ravens. stellar D and good scoring. After  watching yesterdays upsets Baltomore does not want to be embarrassed on MNF. Ravens

    BIG

     
    easypics
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2009 - 6:30 PM ET #93

    Quote Originally Posted by Jumptown_Johnny:

    On a (somewhat) sidenote:

    Along w/ Harvin and Crabtree, Massaquoi is one of my favorite wide-outs of this season's rookie class.  I love that he's a former Bulldog, too.  Great fit for this new-look Browns receiving corps.  

    If Cleveland shows up tonight, you can bet he'll be involved in some big plays.

    P.S.  The 'B' stands for BALLS.

    LOL , Unit J

    For your sake, Hope the B is for  "Balls" n' not broke .




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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumptown_Johnny:

    On a (somewhat) sidenote:

    Along w/ Harvin and Crabtree, Massaquoi is one of my favorite wide-outs of this season's rookie class.  I love that he's a former Bulldog, too.  Great fit for this new-look Browns receiving corps.  

    If Cleveland shows up tonight, you can bet he'll be involved in some big plays.

    P.S.  The 'B' stands for BALLS.

    LOL , Unit J

    For your sake, Hope the B is for  "Balls" n' not broke .




     
    coltsalltheway
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2009 - 6:33 PM ET #94

    breakabookie my teaser was money like you said :)what a great day sunday was. indi -1 and the over, cinci to sweep, arizona and minni to cover. woooh man all i need to do is bet on these good teams every week and money will keep comming in. i'm taking baltimore -7 first half.

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    breakabookie my teaser was money like you said :)what a great day sunday was. indi -1 and the over, cinci to sweep, arizona and minni to cover. woooh man all i need to do is bet on these good teams every week and money will keep comming in. i'm taking baltimore -7 first half.

     
    coltsalltheway
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2009 - 6:34 PM ET #95

    easypics you suck dude i said jags will cover and then you come on and say all this stuff and changed my mind booo
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    easypics you suck dude i said jags will cover and then you come on and say all this stuff and changed my mind booo
     
    rossoneri
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2009 - 6:40 PM ET #96

    CLEVELAND +10.5
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    CLEVELAND +10.5
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2009 - 6:42 PM ET #97

    RAVENS are an ANGRY bunch   not to mention is the better team. Baltimore lost to good teams Minn, underrated Cinn twice, and NE .

    Clev. very very poor   34-3 1st meeting... home field usually worth 3 pts. 

    Ravens -11

    I need this 1 BAD

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    RAVENS are an ANGRY bunch   not to mention is the better team. Baltimore lost to good teams Minn, underrated Cinn twice, and NE .

    Clev. very very poor   34-3 1st meeting... home field usually worth 3 pts. 

    Ravens -11

    I need this 1 BAD

     
    Sandman23
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2009 - 6:49 PM ET #98

    Ravens roll here...but you never know just like last night

    The fix could be in !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Ravens roll here...but you never know just like last night

    The fix could be in !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2009 - 6:50 PM ET #99

    Lets throw all the trends out for now.  Cleveland is a very very different team now.

    Baltimore is the only team that hasn't changed.  Anyone can point to the past and bring up a relative fact. 

    I understand it would be a rivalry but not matter how much they want or feel or wish... skill is skill.  There is a large gap between the 2.  If you are playing the odds, you choose Baltimore, if you are playing gut feeling, hoping, wishing, you play Cleveland. 

    No one ever stated that Cleveland can't hang with Baltimore.  It's playing the odds that most likely Cleveland can't stay close to Baltimore.

    My plays would be:
    1st half under 19
    1st half Baltimore -6
    Baltimore whole game -11

    If Score is 10-17 to 0 going into half, I would play Baltimore again.. again, only if scoreless.  After browns realize not much can be done, they will start throwing for longer plays going for big ones and thats where TO and mistakes will start to happen.
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    Lets throw all the trends out for now.  Cleveland is a very very different team now.

    Baltimore is the only team that hasn't changed.  Anyone can point to the past and bring up a relative fact. 

    I understand it would be a rivalry but not matter how much they want or feel or wish... skill is skill.  There is a large gap between the 2.  If you are playing the odds, you choose Baltimore, if you are playing gut feeling, hoping, wishing, you play Cleveland. 

    No one ever stated that Cleveland can't hang with Baltimore.  It's playing the odds that most likely Cleveland can't stay close to Baltimore.

    My plays would be:
    1st half under 19
    1st half Baltimore -6
    Baltimore whole game -11

    If Score is 10-17 to 0 going into half, I would play Baltimore again.. again, only if scoreless.  After browns realize not much can be done, they will start throwing for longer plays going for big ones and thats where TO and mistakes will start to happen.
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2009 - 6:52 PM ET #100

    31-6 Ravens POUND! 
     
    With Quinn as starting quarterback, the Browns are 0-3 ATS this season. 
    Ravens are 8-0 ATS in their last eight games against a team with a losing record.
    Ravens are 5-1 ATS in their last six games following a loss.
    Browns are 1-6-1 ATS in their last eight home games.
    Browns are 2-9-1 ATS in their last 12 games following a straight up loss.

    This is going to be a bloodbath.  The Browns might be the worst team in the league at this point and that is saying a lot. 

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    31-6 Ravens POUND! 
     
    With Quinn as starting quarterback, the Browns are 0-3 ATS this season. 
    Ravens are 8-0 ATS in their last eight games against a team with a losing record.
    Ravens are 5-1 ATS in their last six games following a loss.
    Browns are 1-6-1 ATS in their last eight home games.
    Browns are 2-9-1 ATS in their last 12 games following a straight up loss.

    This is going to be a bloodbath.  The Browns might be the worst team in the league at this point and that is saying a lot. 

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