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    Atlanta at Arizona (01/03/2009)

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    NFLGURUX
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2009 - 2:40 PM ET #101

    Look up Larry Fitzgerald and read his recent encounter with the law. (12-31-08) ( accused for beating his baby's mama and now ordered to stay away from her and his 11-year old child. )

    It might be a distraction for his performance.

    With hardly anyone talking about this incident makes me believe that ATLANTA wins this game. But who knows the whole story. Might be all made up by a gold-digger.


    Anyway, don't hate on how I pick games. Good Luck all.

    (Currently 12-4 ATS on 5* picks)
    This is my other 5* pick on ATLANTA +1.5
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    Look up Larry Fitzgerald and read his recent encounter with the law. (12-31-08) ( accused for beating his baby's mama and now ordered to stay away from her and his 11-year old child. )

    It might be a distraction for his performance.

    With hardly anyone talking about this incident makes me believe that ATLANTA wins this game. But who knows the whole story. Might be all made up by a gold-digger.


    Anyway, don't hate on how I pick games. Good Luck all.

    (Currently 12-4 ATS on 5* picks)
    This is my other 5* pick on ATLANTA +1.5
     
    Go_Terps49
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2009 - 2:42 PM ET #102

    ARIZ all day at home....

    Be careful ATL backers...
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    ARIZ all day at home....

    Be careful ATL backers...
     
    roofdog03
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2009 - 2:49 PM ET #103

    hank is a jerk off.
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    hank is a jerk off.
     
    AJLightning
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2009 - 2:53 PM ET #104

    ATL   
     
    Cards are one dimensional     
     
    not going to get into the 4 point line movement either     
     
     GL 2 all
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    ATL   
     
    Cards are one dimensional     
     
    not going to get into the 4 point line movement either     
     
     GL 2 all
     
    zacharycashman
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2009 - 2:55 PM ET #105

    Quote Originally Posted by Clark3232:

     

    You just gave me a new outlook on this game. I see the Cards comming out pumped up and causing some turnovers. Cards have been down lately but they should put it together at home.



    First post ever.  Anyway, isn't it true that as recent as yesterday this was scheduled to be a blackout because of lack of ticket sales?  Seems like AZ fans can't even get excited about this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clark3232:

     

    You just gave me a new outlook on this game. I see the Cards comming out pumped up and causing some turnovers. Cards have been down lately but they should put it together at home.



    First post ever.  Anyway, isn't it true that as recent as yesterday this was scheduled to be a blackout because of lack of ticket sales?  Seems like AZ fans can't even get excited about this game.
     
    HughesMiester
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2009 - 2:58 PM ET #106

    My book currently has Zona at -1.5 and the O/U at 51. What do you guys think about teasing Zona to plus 4.5 and the O/U to 45 and taking the Over? All thoughts welcome!
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    My book currently has Zona at -1.5 and the O/U at 51. What do you guys think about teasing Zona to plus 4.5 and the O/U to 45 and taking the Over? All thoughts welcome!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2009 - 3:24 PM ET #107

    Going with Atlanta. Better all around offense. Turner will grind the clock and keep Warner and co. off the field.  Also Wisenhunt is one dumb coach. It will bite him in the ass come playoffs time.
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    Going with Atlanta. Better all around offense. Turner will grind the clock and keep Warner and co. off the field.  Also Wisenhunt is one dumb coach. It will bite him in the ass come playoffs time.
     
    CrimsonSteel
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2009 - 3:37 PM ET #108

    Still sad about my Bama losing last night....But oh well...cashed in on Ole Miss and the over in the Bama game.
     
    Did I read that right? 90% of public on the over? Could Vegas really stand to pay that many people?
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    Still sad about my Bama losing last night....But oh well...cashed in on Ole Miss and the over in the Bama game.
     
    Did I read that right? 90% of public on the over? Could Vegas really stand to pay that many people?
     
    cowboyzwin
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2009 - 3:45 PM ET #109

    Clayton reports Turner dealing with domestic issues lately-cops, his baby momma etc..+ he's been beat to death this year leading the league with attempts, can he hold up? Plus AZ knows how to focus on stopping running teams when they have to, plus I hate rookie GB's getting their first taste of playoff football. Atl has the resume, but gotta put my money on the Cards...GLA
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    Clayton reports Turner dealing with domestic issues lately-cops, his baby momma etc..+ he's been beat to death this year leading the league with attempts, can he hold up? Plus AZ knows how to focus on stopping running teams when they have to, plus I hate rookie GB's getting their first taste of playoff football. Atl has the resume, but gotta put my money on the Cards...GLA
     
    Mangs
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2009 - 3:46 PM ET #110

    Cardinals have played terrible since clinching their playoff spot. Edge is leaving cause he doesn't want to block. Said he isn't a lineman. All Cards do is pass. Abraham will have a big day. Turner will have a big day.
     
    Falcons 38-20
     
    I got Falcons +1.
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    Cardinals have played terrible since clinching their playoff spot. Edge is leaving cause he doesn't want to block. Said he isn't a lineman. All Cards do is pass. Abraham will have a big day. Turner will have a big day.
     
    Falcons 38-20
     
    I got Falcons +1.
     
    OnlyGod
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2009 - 3:48 PM ET #111

    Is that injury list they have on covers accurate ?  I  mean their is like 20 guys out for the Falcons ?  Well 19 if you don't count Vick I mean he has been out all year.
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    Is that injury list they have on covers accurate ?  I  mean their is like 20 guys out for the Falcons ?  Well 19 if you don't count Vick I mean he has been out all year.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2009 - 3:50 PM ET #112

    Quote Originally Posted by Fpronk:

    Crod - I don't place a lot of weight on trends. Each game is different and is about how teams match up with one another. I think we are on for a show and a Cardinal win.
     
    Good Luck!
     
    Arizona +1.5

    Fronk,

    Stop throwing garbage pick in here when you know it is not right.

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fpronk:

    Crod - I don't place a lot of weight on trends. Each game is different and is about how teams match up with one another. I think we are on for a show and a Cardinal win.
     
    Good Luck!
     
    Arizona +1.5

    Fronk,

    Stop throwing garbage pick in here when you know it is not right.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2009 - 3:51 PM ET #113

    Quote Originally Posted by OnlyGod:

    Is that injury list they have on covers accurate ?  I  mean their is like 20 guys out for the Falcons ?  Well 19 if you don't count Vick I mean he has been out all year.
    9 of them are questionable and im sure most will play. its playoffs!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnlyGod:

    Is that injury list they have on covers accurate ?  I  mean their is like 20 guys out for the Falcons ?  Well 19 if you don't count Vick I mean he has been out all year.
    9 of them are questionable and im sure most will play. its playoffs!!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2009 - 3:53 PM ET #114

     Sunday 12/28/08       Seattle       W 34-21   
    Finally getting momentum going into the playoffs
        
    Sunday 12/21/08     @ New England     L 7-47     
    Didn't show up.  Probabaly too cold for them.
        
    Sunday 12/14/08     Minnesota     L 14-35
    Hung over from getting into the playoffs, but the score isn't close to the game.  They down like 24+? points at the half.
        
    Sunday 12/07/08     St. Louis     W 34-10     
    Killed the lambs

    Thursday 11/27/08     @ Philadelphia     L 20-48
    Lose, to a playoff team
        
    Sunday 11/23/08     N.Y. Giants     L 29-37
    Lose to a playoff team
        
    Sunday 11/16/08     @ Seattle     W 26-20
        
    Monday 11/10/08     San Francisco     W 29-24
    Should have lost this game.
        
    Sunday 11/02/08     @ St. Louis     W 34-13
        
    Sunday 10/26/08     @ Carolina     L 23-27
    Lose to a playoff team.    
    BYE
    Sunday 10/12/08     Dallas     W 30-24 x
    Solid win
            
    Sunday 10/05/08     Buffalo     W 41-17
    Sunday 09/28/08     @ N.Y. Jets     L 35-56   
    The score is not even close to the actual game.  I believe Cards were down like 35+ points at the half.
     
    Sunday 09/21/08     @ Washington     L 17-24 
    WTF, to Wash?  

    Sunday 09/14/08     Miami         W 31-10
    Beat a playoff team.  With a new QB and HC
        
    Sunday 09/07/08     @ San Francisco W 23-13

    Looked at the body of work that the cards have.  They lose to good teams and beat shitty teams.  They only beat one play off bound team and it was in W2 against a new QB and new HC at home.  They are 6-0 in their division, a division that only had 1 team with a winning record.  They beat Buff, Dal, and Mia.  out of division.

    Good thing for Cards, all those win came at home and they are home now.  I really hope they win, so I can fade them hard next week.  

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     Sunday 12/28/08       Seattle       W 34-21   
    Finally getting momentum going into the playoffs
        
    Sunday 12/21/08     @ New England     L 7-47     
    Didn't show up.  Probabaly too cold for them.
        
    Sunday 12/14/08     Minnesota     L 14-35
    Hung over from getting into the playoffs, but the score isn't close to the game.  They down like 24+? points at the half.
        
    Sunday 12/07/08     St. Louis     W 34-10     
    Killed the lambs

    Thursday 11/27/08     @ Philadelphia     L 20-48
    Lose, to a playoff team
        
    Sunday 11/23/08     N.Y. Giants     L 29-37
    Lose to a playoff team
        
    Sunday 11/16/08     @ Seattle     W 26-20
        
    Monday 11/10/08     San Francisco     W 29-24
    Should have lost this game.
        
    Sunday 11/02/08     @ St. Louis     W 34-13
        
    Sunday 10/26/08     @ Carolina     L 23-27
    Lose to a playoff team.    
    BYE
    Sunday 10/12/08     Dallas     W 30-24 x
    Solid win
            
    Sunday 10/05/08     Buffalo     W 41-17
    Sunday 09/28/08     @ N.Y. Jets     L 35-56   
    The score is not even close to the actual game.  I believe Cards were down like 35+ points at the half.
     
    Sunday 09/21/08     @ Washington     L 17-24 
    WTF, to Wash?  

    Sunday 09/14/08     Miami         W 31-10
    Beat a playoff team.  With a new QB and HC
        
    Sunday 09/07/08     @ San Francisco W 23-13

    Looked at the body of work that the cards have.  They lose to good teams and beat shitty teams.  They only beat one play off bound team and it was in W2 against a new QB and new HC at home.  They are 6-0 in their division, a division that only had 1 team with a winning record.  They beat Buff, Dal, and Mia.  out of division.

    Good thing for Cards, all those win came at home and they are home now.  I really hope they win, so I can fade them hard next week.  

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2009 - 3:57 PM ET #115

    If the Cardinals come out and try to just pass the whole game i think they are in trouble, they have to try and run the ball with at least a little success to keep Atlantas D honest, If the cards can do this i think they can win, But knowing that they almost cannot help themselves by passing 65+% a game i think they become 1 dimensional,  it might take Atlanta a quarter too make adjustments against the 3 reciever sets, but thats what they want, they want Arizona to be one dimensional and PASS, it gives the D a advantage...with this said i think Atlanta can control the ball and make the Cardinals 1 dimensional which leads to some turnovers .... ATLANTA  / UNDER

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    If the Cardinals come out and try to just pass the whole game i think they are in trouble, they have to try and run the ball with at least a little success to keep Atlantas D honest, If the cards can do this i think they can win, But knowing that they almost cannot help themselves by passing 65+% a game i think they become 1 dimensional,  it might take Atlanta a quarter too make adjustments against the 3 reciever sets, but thats what they want, they want Arizona to be one dimensional and PASS, it gives the D a advantage...with this said i think Atlanta can control the ball and make the Cardinals 1 dimensional which leads to some turnovers .... ATLANTA  / UNDER

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2009 - 4:00 PM ET #116

    Quote Originally Posted by viet77064:

    Fronk,

    Stop throwing garbage pick in here when you know it is not right.

    viet77064 let's show some respect in the thread!!!! Fpronk has made me some money, and even though I do not like his pick for this one, that scares me.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by viet77064:

    Fronk,

    Stop throwing garbage pick in here when you know it is not right.

    viet77064 let's show some respect in the thread!!!! Fpronk has made me some money, and even though I do not like his pick for this one, that scares me.

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2009 - 4:01 PM ET #117

    Cardinals have no running game and no D. 
     
    Atlanta +1
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    Cardinals have no running game and no D. 
     
    Atlanta +1
     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2009 - 4:02 PM ET #118

    AZ at -2 now
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    AZ at -2 now
     
    Wolfies167
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2009 - 4:07 PM ET #119

    Well I haven't posted in a very long time..have not bet either.  I like the over here...I can see the score 28-14 at half alone...so 1st half over or for the game.  Winner is tough to call...Warner is an X factor...not sure if his experience will mean anything...
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    Well I haven't posted in a very long time..have not bet either.  I like the over here...I can see the score 28-14 at half alone...so 1st half over or for the game.  Winner is tough to call...Warner is an X factor...not sure if his experience will mean anything...
     
    CallMeBruce
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2009 - 4:08 PM ET #120

    Sunday 12/28/08       St. Louis        W 31-27       
    Sunday 12/21/08     @ Minnesota     W 24-17
    Beat a playoff team that needed a win and in their stadium.
        
    Sunday 12/14/08     Tampa Bay     W 13-10 x
    In division so they split with them, but TB is a really good team that was fighting for their playoff lives.
        
    Sunday 12/07/08     @ New Orleans     L 25-29
    Same as TB, Lost to a good passing team.
        
    Sunday 11/30/08     @ San Diego     W 22-16
    Same as Minn
        
    Sunday 11/23/08     Carolina     W 45-28
    Same as TB
        
    Sunday 11/16/08     Denver     L 20-24
    Bad loss, lost to a pssing team with Bad D (sounds like the Cards)
        
    Sunday 11/09/08     New Orleans     W 34-20

    Sunday 11/02/08     @ Oakland     W 24-0
    Sunday 10/26/08     @ Philadelphia     L 14-27
    Good passing team.
        
    BYE
    Sunday 10/12/08     Chicago     W 22-20     
    Sunday 10/05/08     @ Green Bay     W 27-24     
    Sunday 09/28/08     @ Carolina     L 9-24
    Sunday 09/21/08     Kansas City     W 38-14     
    Sunday 09/14/08     @ Tampa Bay     L 9-24     
    Sunday 09/07/08     Detroit     W 34-21

    ATL beat 3 playoff teams.  That has to say something. And two of them were away and those teams were playing for their playoff lives.  My worry with this team is that they seem to lose to good passing teams (phil and denver).  I really worry about that game vs. Denver.

    And there is this weird line movement on this game.  Not sure if this is a true reverse line movement (sharp action) or the public betting on the cards (late public money).

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    Sunday 12/28/08       St. Louis        W 31-27       
    Sunday 12/21/08     @ Minnesota     W 24-17
    Beat a playoff team that needed a win and in their stadium.
        
    Sunday 12/14/08     Tampa Bay     W 13-10 x
    In division so they split with them, but TB is a really good team that was fighting for their playoff lives.
        
    Sunday 12/07/08     @ New Orleans     L 25-29
    Same as TB, Lost to a good passing team.
        
    Sunday 11/30/08     @ San Diego     W 22-16
    Same as Minn
        
    Sunday 11/23/08     Carolina     W 45-28
    Same as TB
        
    Sunday 11/16/08     Denver     L 20-24
    Bad loss, lost to a pssing team with Bad D (sounds like the Cards)
        
    Sunday 11/09/08     New Orleans     W 34-20

    Sunday 11/02/08     @ Oakland     W 24-0
    Sunday 10/26/08     @ Philadelphia     L 14-27
    Good passing team.
        
    BYE
    Sunday 10/12/08     Chicago     W 22-20     
    Sunday 10/05/08     @ Green Bay     W 27-24     
    Sunday 09/28/08     @ Carolina     L 9-24
    Sunday 09/21/08     Kansas City     W 38-14     
    Sunday 09/14/08     @ Tampa Bay     L 9-24     
    Sunday 09/07/08     Detroit     W 34-21

    ATL beat 3 playoff teams.  That has to say something. And two of them were away and those teams were playing for their playoff lives.  My worry with this team is that they seem to lose to good passing teams (phil and denver).  I really worry about that game vs. Denver.

    And there is this weird line movement on this game.  Not sure if this is a true reverse line movement (sharp action) or the public betting on the cards (late public money).

     
    HoosierIVXX
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2009 - 4:10 PM ET #121

    What do Playoff teams need? A good D and a Running game. Cards have neither.
     
    Dirty Birds +1.5
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    What do Playoff teams need? A good D and a Running game. Cards have neither.
     
    Dirty Birds +1.5
     
    wolfeman3
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2009 - 4:10 PM ET #122

    Lots of late money on the Cards...I like it, go Falcons.
    The impossible only takes longer….
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    Lots of late money on the Cards...I like it, go Falcons.
     
    Fpronk
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2009 - 4:12 PM ET #123

    Quote Originally Posted by viet77064:

    Fronk,

    Stop throwing garbage pick in here when you know it is not right.

     

     

    What are you talking about? I got this game at AZ +1.5 this morning on BetEd. Secondly, I don't know you, nor do I care what you think is garbage. Check the link below and you'll see that this morning BetEd had it at AZ +1.5 till about 11:30 am. Thanks and have a good day.

    https://www.covers.com/sports/odds/lineHistory.aspx?eventId=26284&sport=nfl

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by viet77064:

    Fronk,

    Stop throwing garbage pick in here when you know it is not right.

     

     

    What are you talking about? I got this game at AZ +1.5 this morning on BetEd. Secondly, I don't know you, nor do I care what you think is garbage. Check the link below and you'll see that this morning BetEd had it at AZ +1.5 till about 11:30 am. Thanks and have a good day.

    https://www.covers.com/sports/odds/lineHistory.aspx?eventId=26284&sport=nfl

     

     
    W8LIFTER
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2009 - 4:14 PM ET #124

    Quote Originally Posted by HughesMiester:

    My book currently has Zona at -1.5 and the O/U at 51. What do you guys think about teasing Zona to plus 4.5 and the O/U to 45 and taking the Over? All thoughts welcome!

    Personally I would just take two separate str8 bets on both and forget the teaser. If you just had too, rather than a teaser (the less of the two evils) your better off with a parlay on both plus alot better value on the payoff bro. Just my opinion though... BOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by HughesMiester:

    My book currently has Zona at -1.5 and the O/U at 51. What do you guys think about teasing Zona to plus 4.5 and the O/U to 45 and taking the Over? All thoughts welcome!

    Personally I would just take two separate str8 bets on both and forget the teaser. If you just had too, rather than a teaser (the less of the two evils) your better off with a parlay on both plus alot better value on the payoff bro. Just my opinion though... BOL

     
     
    Fpronk
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2009 - 4:15 PM ET #125

    Crod, thanks for the back up but I honestly give two shits what some of these guys say. I respect many of them and they are they ones on my friends list. Other than, they can piss off...if they dont like me fade. I've been in a slump the last day or two but that means nothing when there are 365 days in the year. Best of Luck!
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    Crod, thanks for the back up but I honestly give two shits what some of these guys say. I respect many of them and they are they ones on my friends list. Other than, they can piss off...if they dont like me fade. I've been in a slump the last day or two but that means nothing when there are 365 days in the year. Best of Luck!
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