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#51
-5 Cards 26-21
Arizona at San Francisco (12/14/2009)
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#52
Quote Originally Posted by ewillie169:
SF +3.5: the public is pounding the Cardinals to the tune of 92% as if they already know the score. With the low spread, Vegas is begging people to bet the visitors, the same visitors that torched the Vikings and are a show-in for the playoffs. The Niners have everything to play for on a national stage while the Cardinals are already looking to the playoffs and don't need the game as much. This rivalry game gives the edge to the Bay Area boys. Score: Forty-niners 27-Cardinals 24 (4 units).
SF +3.5: the public is pounding the Cardinals to the tune of 92% as if they already know the score. With the low spread, Vegas is begging people to bet the visitors, the same visitors that torched the Vikings and are a show-in for the playoffs. The Niners have everything to play for on a national stage while the Cardinals are already looking to the playoffs and don't need the game as much. This rivalry game gives the edge to the Bay Area boys. Score: Forty-niners 27-Cardinals 24 (4 units).
I must agree with this post (not necessarily with the score)... Warner is not 100% and I have a feeling you'll see Leinart before this game is over. SF's offense is good enough to drive on this Arizona D and should give their secondary plenty of time to rest to cover the likes of Boldin & Fitzgerald. One turnover will change the course of this game and if there isn't enough questions about the game already... Why is this line @ 4?
SF plays to the level of their competition & Singletary will have his locker room jumping before they take the field. I don't normally like to bet with a team's emotions, but this defense will be after Warner all night long and like I said above... I don't think Warner finishes this game. (Just my opinion)
Final play... SF +4 ($1)
Good Luck to All!! 
Posted:
#53
[Quote: Originally Posted by HappyKane]
It doesn't matter if it is Sunday Night, Monday Night or any prime time matchup. Reading the lines is always helpful. For a person to just bet on a team not knowing why the line is moving up or down is just retarded. Or to bet on a team because its "hot" like N.O. goodbye, lose your money. People study these lines and there's a spread for a reason. We as the public is always blinded to one side, not knowing why, who or how Vegas comes up with these lines but they do know one thing we dont...
If you think reading lines is stupid, just look at what you are doing.. Rating players with Biorhythm/ephemerides..? A- , B+, etc? What is that crap about? That doesnt show anything, we all know Arizona is better than S.F.
BOL.
AZ opened at 3 now to 4.. Line movement says take AZ easily.. even with the public on them..
Generally, for MNF or most primetime games, you can bet the favorite or underdog with confidence knowing that either the fave will win in blow-out fashion or the underdog will win straight-up. That means, FORGET THE SPREAD! That means, DON'T READ INTO THE F**KING LINE! That means, THE SPREAD MIGHT NOT MATTER!
Sorry for the bold, but i'm sure there are discussions out there that have these "line-readers" trying to decipher the spread any given week... that just cracks me up sometimes. I can agree that it is helpful to read into line movements and certain spreads but the point is -- just take a look at previous primetime matchups. Did the spread really mattered?
So... people. Please. Stop it with the "read the line" crap, okay? Especially when its Monday night.
I was leaning towards San Fran in this one but since this particular matchup of divisional rivals have a revenge factor to it, i'm afraid to bet against the Cardinals. Especially given the fact that these redbirds do play very well on the road and they're generally money in such spots. This defense can make things happen and could very well shut-down Gore and Coffee tonight.
On the offensive side i don't see how the 49ers 27th ranked pass defense can contain let alone stop Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Boldin; and don't forget Steve Breaston -- he's no slouch either. There really isn't a lot of 5-10 corners that can matchup with Fitzgerald and Boldin. The absence of Nate Clements is probably a big part of why this 49ers pass defense is suffering. Dre Bly is still serviceable but i think he gets beat. Shawntae Spencer is 6-1 and have good speed and is a decent matchup at right corner. I'm sure he's the one that'll give Fitzgerald extra attention. But its not Fitzgerald's speed that he's concerned about -- its his technique.
Flip the field, i think Rogers-Cromartie can take care of Crabtree. He's actually taller than Crabtree. Otherwise there really isn't much more the Cardinals DBs are really concerned with when they had to face Favre and his trio of receivers.
And then we get to Alex Smith versus Kurt Warner. I could never understand how this guy flourished under Urban Meyer's spread offense and couldn't do jack-chit with the 49ers. And this year, the 49ers did some outfitting with new offensive coaches and coordinators. Surprisingly, its the 49ers defense that have improved. Pop Warner is playing hurt and he might be due for a bad outing, according to his "star chart" readings that is. But i think i've learned my lesson going against a pious man like Kurt Warner. I went against him last week and he certainly proved me wrong -- or it was just a case of the Vikings sucking at the wrong time or me and the right time for the Cardinals. Maybe it could be just my luck that when i support him this week and he does come out with a disappointing game. It sure wasn't his "lucky" day on September 13, 2009.
Over/Under -- i'm partial to the Under. This could be a defensive struggle of sorts if both sides can't run the ball. But i can also see the Over hit because both pass defenses suck, statistically speaking. But when i sense that one team might not be able to score enough to help the cause, i can't take the Over. Cardinals could possibly put up 27 points tonight. How much will the 49ers contribute? I say much less than 27 points.
Biorhythm/ephemerides readings below.
It doesn't matter if it is Sunday Night, Monday Night or any prime time matchup. Reading the lines is always helpful. For a person to just bet on a team not knowing why the line is moving up or down is just retarded. Or to bet on a team because its "hot" like N.O. goodbye, lose your money. People study these lines and there's a spread for a reason. We as the public is always blinded to one side, not knowing why, who or how Vegas comes up with these lines but they do know one thing we dont...
If you think reading lines is stupid, just look at what you are doing.. Rating players with Biorhythm/ephemerides..? A- , B+, etc? What is that crap about? That doesnt show anything, we all know Arizona is better than S.F.
BOL.
AZ opened at 3 now to 4.. Line movement says take AZ easily.. even with the public on them..
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#55
The huge difference in the first matchup was Warners 2 picks and the Cards inability to find the endzone(3 field goals). The Cards are more disciplined and will not make the same mistakes. I gotta take Zona and the over here. Of course if Leinhart plays at all in this game were screwed.
Cards-34
9ers-17
cards roll easily
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#57
gamboholic - Enlighten us with all of your handicapping arsenals, sir.
Don't flame something you don't understand. 
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#61
Daddydbol... Thanks for your reply
I have no screen name "bigcash"? not sure man but thanks
I also have no record to post - as I have only one post and no picks posted until tonight. Just decided to sign on the other day after years of reading these. Thanks for your welcome to the forum you veteran you. 170 posts haha douche. Hopefully your other posts have been more informative than your reply to me.
I will be taking Zona also, but at -3
I like the overs. Trend or no trend. Cards get ino the 30's and SF pulls out 17-20 pts.
Best of Luck to you all
Again for those who might care about the trend. MNF last 5 have gone under.
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#64
Quote Originally Posted by Daddydbol:
i really have to laugh when i read crap like this...i mean really? about time to buck a trend??? you must be new...
here is some advice son....never buck a trend....with your rationale i may go 0-5 trying to hit that "buck the trend" thinking....i ride the trend i go 4-1...at worst i go 0-1....i will ride till its over and lose one game...with that lose i am off....but hey keep thinking that way....,my bookie needs your money lol
but with a record of 94-91-4 and a screen name of bigcash i don't expect anything other than a "lets buck the trend" mentality
kids....when will they learn
I agree. Always bet the streak until it runs out.
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#65
Yes, MGilson, Road Team is 8-0 ATS, but Dog is also 6-1 ATS. AZ also 4-0 ATS last 4 in San Fran.
Like the Cardinals, but I think the play is the under. Last four games, AZ has given up an average of 18 pts. and SF, 17. And Covers' hot trends for both teams are all Unders save for AZ being 14-3 Over in December (and I'm not much for monthly trends, save SD and Dallas in Dec.).
Good luck to all, and I hate to see Lackey going to BoSox. An Angels fan, what I'll miss most is TV shots of Lackey's wife, who is actually better looking than Tiger's wife.
Like the Cardinals, but I think the play is the under. Last four games, AZ has given up an average of 18 pts. and SF, 17. And Covers' hot trends for both teams are all Unders save for AZ being 14-3 Over in December (and I'm not much for monthly trends, save SD and Dallas in Dec.).
Good luck to all, and I hate to see Lackey going to BoSox. An Angels fan, what I'll miss most is TV shots of Lackey's wife, who is actually better looking than Tiger's wife.
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#66
CARDS playing out of their minds lately. eventhough they beat chic in chic, I will take the niners at home by the bay. Ariz. doesnt mind playing on the road. but S.F. doesnt mind playing the cards, ever. public on one side, everytime that happens, the underdog wins outright.
PLAY NINERS M/L AND PLUS 3.5
WHEN THE SNIPER SPEAKS SMART PEOPLE LISTEN
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#67
you know .this football not real sport .we want to try support the team we like .but not true because this game for money ,some one control the ball. every time they got redzone then they time out that will some thing happen just one yard they hold the ball not touchdown .lets see to night.every thing I say true.if you bit over they will play like bore .if you bit under they will play over .this is not real game .alots good team were die because you bit on them too much.
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#68
I'm sure most of you know that the winning team in an NFL game covers
72% of time. This week is a prime example, where 13 of 15 winners
covered the spread--with only New England and Atlanta failing to do so.
Of course, the hard part is picking the winner of many NFL games. Tonight's game is a good example. Still, I like the Cardinals.
And, obviously, this trend doesn't always work, or Vegas would go broke even faster than it already is. Pray for the new casino if you like to Visit Vegas!
Of course, the hard part is picking the winner of many NFL games. Tonight's game is a good example. Still, I like the Cardinals.
And, obviously, this trend doesn't always work, or Vegas would go broke even faster than it already is. Pray for the new casino if you like to Visit Vegas!
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#69
lol. Happykane.. didnt mean to flame your strategy. But you shouldnt say that line readers are crap just because this is a Monday Night game? That is pretty ignorant of you to say that. You shouldnt flame something you dont understand. Of course, im not saying line movement always work or points you towards the right direction.. its just a different strategy.
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#71
| Injuries for Week 14 | ||||
| Name | Position | Injury | Practice Status | Game Status |
| Will Davis | LB | Knee | Out (Definitely Will Not Play) | Out |
| Bert Berry | LB | Illness | Limited Participation in Practice | Questionable |
| Kenny Iwebema | DE | Thumb | Limited Participation in Practice | Questionable |
| Stephen Spach | TE | Knee | Limited Participation in Practice | Questionable |
| Bryan Robinson | DT | Illness | Did Not Participate In Practice | Probable |
| Alan Branch | DT | Ankle | Full Participation in Practice | Probable |
| Mike Gandy | T | Pelvis | Full Participation in Practice | Probable |
| Tim Hightower | RB | Thumb | Full Participation in Practice | Probable |
| Dan Kreider | RB | Thigh | Full Participation in Practice | Probable |
| Jason Wright | RB | Illness | Full Participation in Practice | Probable |
| Ben Graham | P | left Groin | Limited Participation in Practice | Probable |
| Neil Rackers | K | right Groin | Limited Participation in Practice | Probable |
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