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    Arizona at Philadelphia (11/27/2008)

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    Mr_Covers
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2008 - 1:52 AM ET #1

    Away:  Arizona [7-4 ATS]
    Home:  Philadelphia [6-5 ATS]

    Game Time: 8:15 PM
    Stadium: Lincoln Financial Field

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Arizona:
    Passing: Kurt Warner (3505)
    Rushing: Edgerrin James (384)
    Receiving: Larry Fitzgerald (1013)

    Philadelphia:
    Passing: Donovan McNabb (2770)
    Rushing: Brian Westbrook (547)
    Receiving: DeSean Jackson (699)

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    Away:  Arizona [7-4 ATS]
    Home:  Philadelphia [6-5 ATS]

    Game Time: 8:15 PM
    Stadium: Lincoln Financial Field

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Arizona:
    Passing: Kurt Warner (3505)
    Rushing: Edgerrin James (384)
    Receiving: Larry Fitzgerald (1013)

    Philadelphia:
    Passing: Donovan McNabb (2770)
    Rushing: Brian Westbrook (547)
    Receiving: DeSean Jackson (699)

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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2008 - 11:04 AM ET #2

    You have to like Arizona in this spot, but then again you never know if McNabb might find himself again.  I expect he will one of these weeks, if only to show he still have value on the free agent market.

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    You have to like Arizona in this spot, but then again you never know if McNabb might find himself again.  I expect he will one of these weeks, if only to show he still have value on the free agent market.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2008 - 3:52 PM ET #3

    im predictin the total to go OVER 47
     
    you've got to blive Phi will score min 20+ pts against Arz medicore Defense...at the same time Arz can easily score 20+ pts on Phi...I hope Donovan comes out tryin to prove hes not washed up...
     
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    im predictin the total to go OVER 47
     
    you've got to blive Phi will score min 20+ pts against Arz medicore Defense...at the same time Arz can easily score 20+ pts on Phi...I hope Donovan comes out tryin to prove hes not washed up...
     
    gobble gobble gla 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2008 - 5:17 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by danstyk:

    You have to like Arizona in this spot, but then again you never know if McNabb might find himself again.  I expect he will one of these weeks, if only to show he still have value on the free agent market.




    How'z McNabb going to "find himself" sitting on the bench????? Philly is in turmoil - I've said it in too many threads before, McNabb SUCKS!!!!! - the Cards are too high powered of an offense for 'em - THEY'RE NOT EVEN FAVORED AT HOME ON THANKSGIVING FOR CHRIS'SAKES!!!!!!!! Take the Cards - the field goal won't matter in this game.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by danstyk:

    You have to like Arizona in this spot, but then again you never know if McNabb might find himself again.  I expect he will one of these weeks, if only to show he still have value on the free agent market.




    How'z McNabb going to "find himself" sitting on the bench????? Philly is in turmoil - I've said it in too many threads before, McNabb SUCKS!!!!! - the Cards are too high powered of an offense for 'em - THEY'RE NOT EVEN FAVORED AT HOME ON THANKSGIVING FOR CHRIS'SAKES!!!!!!!! Take the Cards - the field goal won't matter in this game.....
     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2008 - 5:41 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by Boludojones:




    How'z McNabb going to "find himself" sitting on the bench????? Philly is in turmoil - I've said it in too many threads before, McNabb SUCKS!!!!! - the Cards are too high powered of an offense for 'em - THEY'RE NOT EVEN FAVORED AT HOME ON THANKSGIVING FOR CHRIS'SAKES!!!!!!!! Take the Cards - the field goal won't matter in this game.....



    Sorry - Cards get 3.5 - even better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boludojones:




    How'z McNabb going to "find himself" sitting on the bench????? Philly is in turmoil - I've said it in too many threads before, McNabb SUCKS!!!!! - the Cards are too high powered of an offense for 'em - THEY'RE NOT EVEN FAVORED AT HOME ON THANKSGIVING FOR CHRIS'SAKES!!!!!!!! Take the Cards - the field goal won't matter in this game.....



    Sorry - Cards get 3.5 - even better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2008 - 5:45 PM ET #6

    cards are not even home ^
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    cards are not even home ^
     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2008 - 6:34 PM ET #7

    I'd think about the total.  Its going to be a cold Thanksgiving night.  Arizona is fortunate its not going to snow.  I'd really like to see Brian Westbrook break out.

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    I'd think about the total.  Its going to be a cold Thanksgiving night.  Arizona is fortunate its not going to snow.  I'd really like to see Brian Westbrook break out.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2008 - 9:08 PM ET #8

    The Eagles will have to really get at Warner HARD, if they don't forget it! 
    I don't see their pass rush being better than the GIANTS and they recorded  only one sack but hit Warner all night and he still threw for 351 yards!
    Warner will light it up against the Eagles.
     
    The Eagles are toast!
     
    This is another BS line but I'll take it
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    The Eagles will have to really get at Warner HARD, if they don't forget it! 
    I don't see their pass rush being better than the GIANTS and they recorded  only one sack but hit Warner all night and he still threw for 351 yards!
    Warner will light it up against the Eagles.
     
    The Eagles are toast!
     
    This is another BS line but I'll take it
     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2008 - 10:44 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by moorebe:

    The Eagles will have to really get at Warner HARD, if they don't forget it! 
    I don't see their pass rush being better than the GIANTS and they recorded  only one sack but hit Warner all night and he still threw for 351 yards!
    Warner will light it up against the Eagles.
     
    The Eagles are toast!



     
    This is another BS line but I'll take it




    The Giants did not blitz Warner a lot as they knew he would be ready with 3 step drops...They played cover 2 which allows for a lot of short throws underneath...Eagles will play same D with more blitzing on 3 downs and red zone...
    Very hard game for Card after playing physical to Gmen and then flying east with one practice??? Very hard game for them... Eagles last chance...
    Give the points
    Eagles

    GLA




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    Quote Originally Posted by moorebe:

    The Eagles will have to really get at Warner HARD, if they don't forget it! 
    I don't see their pass rush being better than the GIANTS and they recorded  only one sack but hit Warner all night and he still threw for 351 yards!
    Warner will light it up against the Eagles.
     
    The Eagles are toast!



     
    This is another BS line but I'll take it




    The Giants did not blitz Warner a lot as they knew he would be ready with 3 step drops...They played cover 2 which allows for a lot of short throws underneath...Eagles will play same D with more blitzing on 3 downs and red zone...
    Very hard game for Card after playing physical to Gmen and then flying east with one practice??? Very hard game for them... Eagles last chance...
    Give the points
    Eagles

    GLA




     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2008 - 11:20 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by Boludojones:




    How'z McNabb going to "find himself" sitting on the bench????? Philly is in turmoil - I've said it in too many threads before, McNabb SUCKS!!!!! - the Cards are too high powered of an offense for 'em - THEY'RE NOT EVEN FAVORED AT HOME ON THANKSGIVING FOR CHRIS'SAKES!!!!!!!! Take the Cards - the field goal won't matter in this game.....

    1) McNabb is the starter and will not be sitting the bench.

    2) Eagles are favored by 3 pts at home on Thanksgiving Day.

    3) If you don't know the basic info, then keep your misinformation to yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boludojones:




    How'z McNabb going to "find himself" sitting on the bench????? Philly is in turmoil - I've said it in too many threads before, McNabb SUCKS!!!!! - the Cards are too high powered of an offense for 'em - THEY'RE NOT EVEN FAVORED AT HOME ON THANKSGIVING FOR CHRIS'SAKES!!!!!!!! Take the Cards - the field goal won't matter in this game.....

    1) McNabb is the starter and will not be sitting the bench.

    2) Eagles are favored by 3 pts at home on Thanksgiving Day.

    3) If you don't know the basic info, then keep your misinformation to yourself.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2008 - 11:25 PM ET #11

    Kate Warner is the most overrated QB in the league.  By Far.  If his line didn't give him time, and if he didn't have such a great receiver squad, he would be subpar at best.  I expect the Eagles to give him a lot of different blitz schemes that will give him trouble.  McNabb should have his act together and this should be considered a good price for Philly at home.
     
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    Kate Warner is the most overrated QB in the league.  By Far.  If his line didn't give him time, and if he didn't have such a great receiver squad, he would be subpar at best.  I expect the Eagles to give him a lot of different blitz schemes that will give him trouble.  McNabb should have his act together and this should be considered a good price for Philly at home.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2008 - 12:02 AM ET #12

    Eagles rebound and Warner throws 3 picks.
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    Eagles rebound and Warner throws 3 picks.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2008 - 5:07 AM ET #13

    right kurt just has a super bowl ring.... eagles win but warner is not at all subppar
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    right kurt just has a super bowl ring.... eagles win but warner is not at all subppar
     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2008 - 8:00 AM ET #14

    Anyone have imput on total here.
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    Anyone have imput on total here.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2008 - 8:21 AM ET #15

    Eagles -3 (Big) + Over 46.5.

    1) Eagles are gonna bounce back after that terrible loss last week
    2) Arizona traveling east to play in the cold weather.
    3) public is hammering Arizona and the point spread is barely moving.
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    Eagles -3 (Big) + Over 46.5.

    1) Eagles are gonna bounce back after that terrible loss last week
    2) Arizona traveling east to play in the cold weather.
    3) public is hammering Arizona and the point spread is barely moving.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2008 - 8:42 AM ET #16

    To me, this is the Best play on Thanksgiving. The Eagles are off 3 bad performances, 2 losses and a tie to the lowly Bengals. McNabb comes in with something to prove this Thursday. Meanwhile, AZ has been bad when they've travelled East this year going 0-3 and getting blown out by the Jets. This line is made to bait the public. AZ is a 1st place 7-4 team going against an average Philly team off three bad weeks with QB problems. They've fallen from favor, but they're still a good team, especially against a west coast team at home on Thanksgiving. I'll be on the EAGLES tomorrow. Just hoping the line drops to -2.5 before kickoff. If not I'll buy the hook.

    EAGLES -2.5
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    To me, this is the Best play on Thanksgiving. The Eagles are off 3 bad performances, 2 losses and a tie to the lowly Bengals. McNabb comes in with something to prove this Thursday. Meanwhile, AZ has been bad when they've travelled East this year going 0-3 and getting blown out by the Jets. This line is made to bait the public. AZ is a 1st place 7-4 team going against an average Philly team off three bad weeks with QB problems. They've fallen from favor, but they're still a good team, especially against a west coast team at home on Thanksgiving. I'll be on the EAGLES tomorrow. Just hoping the line drops to -2.5 before kickoff. If not I'll buy the hook.

    EAGLES -2.5
     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2008 - 10:08 AM ET #17

    This game would be a lot better for the Eagles if it was the early game. I don't think the travel across the country will have as much of an effect on the Cardinals when they play at 8:15. The weather on the other hand could cause some problems. Everyone keeps bringing up the fact that the Cardinals are going to be sore after playing the physical G-men but don't forget that the Eagles just got done playing and getting destroyed by the Ravens. They don't have a bad D either and play just as physical as the Giants do. I'm on the CARDINALS here. Westbrook is beaten up, McNabb's confidence has to be somewhat shook and Andy Reid seems lost right now. If McNabb struggles in the first half again don't be surprised to see Kolb in there at quarterback in the second half again. The Cards need this game to prove that they can win away from home in bad weather in the playoffs. Eagles are in disarray right now and starting to play the blame game with each other. Both teams coming off short weeks against two physical opponents, Eagles seem more beat up and unsure of themselves at this point. I'll take Warner (the MVP of the league right now) and the Cards plus the points.
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    This game would be a lot better for the Eagles if it was the early game. I don't think the travel across the country will have as much of an effect on the Cardinals when they play at 8:15. The weather on the other hand could cause some problems. Everyone keeps bringing up the fact that the Cardinals are going to be sore after playing the physical G-men but don't forget that the Eagles just got done playing and getting destroyed by the Ravens. They don't have a bad D either and play just as physical as the Giants do. I'm on the CARDINALS here. Westbrook is beaten up, McNabb's confidence has to be somewhat shook and Andy Reid seems lost right now. If McNabb struggles in the first half again don't be surprised to see Kolb in there at quarterback in the second half again. The Cards need this game to prove that they can win away from home in bad weather in the playoffs. Eagles are in disarray right now and starting to play the blame game with each other. Both teams coming off short weeks against two physical opponents, Eagles seem more beat up and unsure of themselves at this point. I'll take Warner (the MVP of the league right now) and the Cards plus the points.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2008 - 11:00 AM ET #18

    The end is near for the Reid/McNabb era.   McNabb will be traded at the end of the season if not sooner to (Minnesota) or ? and free up alot of salary cap money.   I am not sure about the line here on this game and how Philly is giving points.    Times are tuff in Philly right now. If McNabb has another bad 1st half then what???
     
    Arizona   27  -  Philadelphia   24    
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    The end is near for the Reid/McNabb era.   McNabb will be traded at the end of the season if not sooner to (Minnesota) or ? and free up alot of salary cap money.   I am not sure about the line here on this game and how Philly is giving points.    Times are tuff in Philly right now. If McNabb has another bad 1st half then what???
     
    Arizona   27  -  Philadelphia   24    
     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2008 - 11:33 AM ET #19

    [Quote: Originally Posted by PokinSmot]
    im predictin the total to go OVER 47
     
    you've got to blive Phi will score min 20+ pts against Arz medicore Defense...at the same time Arz can easily score 20+ pts on Phi...I hope Donovan comes out tryin to prove hes not washed up...
     
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by PokinSmot]
    im predictin the total to go OVER 47
     
    you've got to blive Phi will score min 20+ pts against Arz medicore Defense...at the same time Arz can easily score 20+ pts on Phi...I hope Donovan comes out tryin to prove hes not washed up...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2008 - 2:21 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by joedaddy76:

    1) McNabb is the starter and will not be sitting the bench.

    2) Eagles are favored by 3 pts at home on Thanksgiving Day.

    3) If you don't know the basic info, then keep your misinformation to yourself.




    First off, I quickly corrected myself in the very next listing - if you'd bother to have read it. I had seen the line as +3.5 in another forum (obviously a typo) - then I saw it here....... Secondly, here's my prediction - game goes into overtime, there's 1:04 left on the clock, the Eagles have no time outs left and the ball with a first down on their own 35 yard line..... McNabb takes 2 "kneel downs" figuring why risk an interception or a fumble when we can just cruise into the second overtime period, right??? WHAT A DUMBASS!!!!!! How do you not know the friggin' rules??? Poor Donovan McNabb!!! I've got 2 words for you pal, "Daunte" and "Culpepper"!!!! There's your future.......... Now why don't you go home and have some more Campbell's soup with your mom!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by joedaddy76:

    1) McNabb is the starter and will not be sitting the bench.

    2) Eagles are favored by 3 pts at home on Thanksgiving Day.

    3) If you don't know the basic info, then keep your misinformation to yourself.




    First off, I quickly corrected myself in the very next listing - if you'd bother to have read it. I had seen the line as +3.5 in another forum (obviously a typo) - then I saw it here....... Secondly, here's my prediction - game goes into overtime, there's 1:04 left on the clock, the Eagles have no time outs left and the ball with a first down on their own 35 yard line..... McNabb takes 2 "kneel downs" figuring why risk an interception or a fumble when we can just cruise into the second overtime period, right??? WHAT A DUMBASS!!!!!! How do you not know the friggin' rules??? Poor Donovan McNabb!!! I've got 2 words for you pal, "Daunte" and "Culpepper"!!!! There's your future.......... Now why don't you go home and have some more Campbell's soup with your mom!!!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2008 - 2:22 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by FullAccess:

    The end is near for the Reid/McNabb era.   McNabb will be traded at the end of the season if not sooner to (Minnesota) or ? and free up alot of salary cap money.   I am not sure about the line here on this game and how Philly is giving points.    Times are tuff in Philly right now. If McNabb has another bad 1st half then what???
     
    Arizona   27  -  Philadelphia   24    



    This is probably the best quote in here - thank you "Full Access".....
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    Quote Originally Posted by FullAccess:

    The end is near for the Reid/McNabb era.   McNabb will be traded at the end of the season if not sooner to (Minnesota) or ? and free up alot of salary cap money.   I am not sure about the line here on this game and how Philly is giving points.    Times are tuff in Philly right now. If McNabb has another bad 1st half then what???
     
    Arizona   27  -  Philadelphia   24    



    This is probably the best quote in here - thank you "Full Access".....
     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2008 - 2:44 PM ET #22

    Despite the last 2 weeks Philly still has the 9th best O in the league and Donovan will play well he is to good to play like this 3 weeks in a row.  Warner is good for at least 1 fumble and 1 pick this game despite what espn tells you its not 1999.  Eagles scores on D and specials
     
    Philly 41 - 31
     
    I know big score
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    Despite the last 2 weeks Philly still has the 9th best O in the league and Donovan will play well he is to good to play like this 3 weeks in a row.  Warner is good for at least 1 fumble and 1 pick this game despite what espn tells you its not 1999.  Eagles scores on D and specials
     
    Philly 41 - 31
     
    I know big score
     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2008 - 3:37 PM ET #23

    I'LL TAKE EAGLES -3 AND OVER ANYTIME.....$$$$$$$$$$ 
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    I'LL TAKE EAGLES -3 AND OVER ANYTIME.....$$$$$$$$$$ 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2008 - 3:37 PM ET #24

    Gotta love the over here, think McDumbass will come out with something to prove and you know Warner is going to get you at least 21-24 points. Could be a shootout in Philly
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    Gotta love the over here, think McDumbass will come out with something to prove and you know Warner is going to get you at least 21-24 points. Could be a shootout in Philly
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2008 - 4:21 PM ET #25

    Arizona does not play well on the road, (1-3)    They played Sunday had one practice and are flying to COLD PHILLY.    Lay the 3 points on Philly as they pound the Cards.  
     
    Every week lines are posted and there is always one that makes no sense, everyone is too quick to take the obvious.   This line is that game TAKE PHILLY.
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    Arizona does not play well on the road, (1-3)    They played Sunday had one practice and are flying to COLD PHILLY.    Lay the 3 points on Philly as they pound the Cards.  
     
    Every week lines are posted and there is always one that makes no sense, everyone is too quick to take the obvious.   This line is that game TAKE PHILLY.
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