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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 1:10 AM ET #1

    Away:  Arizona [3-2 ATS]
    Home:  N.Y. Giants [4-1-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 8:20 PM
    Stadium: Giants Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
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    Team Leaders:

    Arizona:
    Passing: Kurt Warner (1441)
    Rushing: Timothy Hightower (158)
    Receiving: Larry Fitzgerald (360)

    N.Y. Giants:
    Passing: Eli Manning (1390)
    Rushing: Ahmad Bradshaw (423)
    Receiving: Steve Smith (525)

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    Away:  Arizona [3-2 ATS]
    Home:  N.Y. Giants [4-1-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 8:20 PM
    Stadium: Giants Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Arizona:
    Passing: Kurt Warner (1441)
    Rushing: Timothy Hightower (158)
    Receiving: Larry Fitzgerald (360)

    N.Y. Giants:
    Passing: Eli Manning (1390)
    Rushing: Ahmad Bradshaw (423)
    Receiving: Steve Smith (525)

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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 5:49 AM ET #2

    I'm leery of this game.  Giants are clearly the better team, but -7 is alot to cover.  I'm not playing this game, but if I did I would say  take the over 46.          Kurt warner against his old protege Eli Manning.  Both teams can SCORE.  that's all u have to know.  I would take  giants -7 due to their recent meltdown against New Orleans.  Giants really are a good team (and this is coming from a die hard Dallas fan).  Giants coming off an embarrsing loss to a great New Orleans team?  NY should be fighting mad and run the hell out of the ball.  make mines NY plz.   I already know that spytheweb is going the endorse his giants too. 

     

    nothing by respect Spy.  u really do know ur team.  I would be shocked if u picked against them.  uh, have u ever picked against NY?  I can't remember....

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    I'm leery of this game.  Giants are clearly the better team, but -7 is alot to cover.  I'm not playing this game, but if I did I would say  take the over 46.          Kurt warner against his old protege Eli Manning.  Both teams can SCORE.  that's all u have to know.  I would take  giants -7 due to their recent meltdown against New Orleans.  Giants really are a good team (and this is coming from a die hard Dallas fan).  Giants coming off an embarrsing loss to a great New Orleans team?  NY should be fighting mad and run the hell out of the ball.  make mines NY plz.   I already know that spytheweb is going the endorse his giants too. 

     

    nothing by respect Spy.  u really do know ur team.  I would be shocked if u picked against them.  uh, have u ever picked against NY?  I can't remember....

     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 7:24 AM ET #3

    and let's not forget Cardinals dismal record on the East coast, esp. if there's snow or bad weather.
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    and let's not forget Cardinals dismal record on the East coast, esp. if there's snow or bad weather.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 4:15 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by ewillie169:

    and let's not forget Cardinals dismal record on the East coast, esp. if there's snow or bad weather.

    Yeah, I'm with you on this one.  Though Arizona did cover their last east coast trip when they played Jax a few weeks back, I'm going to bet against them again and hope it's not a fool me once, fool me twice sort of deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ewillie169:

    and let's not forget Cardinals dismal record on the East coast, esp. if there's snow or bad weather.

    Yeah, I'm with you on this one.  Though Arizona did cover their last east coast trip when they played Jax a few weeks back, I'm going to bet against them again and hope it's not a fool me once, fool me twice sort of deal.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 9:09 PM ET #5

     Also dont forget Carolina is on the EAST COAST and see what happened to them in Bad weather,It's just a matter of what Cardinals team comes to play and play for 60 minutes! Dont fall  on this one.
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     Also dont forget Carolina is on the EAST COAST and see what happened to them in Bad weather,It's just a matter of what Cardinals team comes to play and play for 60 minutes! Dont fall  on this one.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 12:07 PM ET #6

    mmm arizona never played that good in new york with that being said i will take the gmen -7 specialy after a bad loss.
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    mmm arizona never played that good in new york with that being said i will take the gmen -7 specialy after a bad loss.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 5:16 PM ET #7

    NYGs defensive play calling is suspect. Defensive coach never made adjustments when needed. Even my kids know when you can't cover, you need more pressure, and Sheridan is a DC? Why and how?

    Cards are going to throw alot, so we'll see soon if NY has fixed their problems. How about sliding Tuck up and down the line and blitz once or twice during the game.

    NY should win but i don't know about -7.0. (-3.0) If they lose someone should lose their job or be cut to shake everyone else up. TC should go back to being the mean @ss he was.
    Good teams win games, Great teams cover the spread!
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    NYGs defensive play calling is suspect. Defensive coach never made adjustments when needed. Even my kids know when you can't cover, you need more pressure, and Sheridan is a DC? Why and how?

    Cards are going to throw alot, so we'll see soon if NY has fixed their problems. How about sliding Tuck up and down the line and blitz once or twice during the game.

    NY should win but i don't know about -7.0. (-3.0) If they lose someone should lose their job or be cut to shake everyone else up. TC should go back to being the mean @ss he was.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 7:53 PM ET #8

    i agree but i also know that the giants are a very tough team and they will learn from the mistakes made with the saints.. i think eli comes out big and the d will stop warner at home to gain back the respect. i think this game is a better cap than the new orleans game cause alot of people are jumping on new orleans. giants -7
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    i agree but i also know that the giants are a very tough team and they will learn from the mistakes made with the saints.. i think eli comes out big and the d will stop warner at home to gain back the respect. i think this game is a better cap than the new orleans game cause alot of people are jumping on new orleans. giants -7
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2009 - 9:37 PM ET #9

    NYG -7
    GLTA
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    NYG -7
    GLTA
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 2:28 AM ET #10

    Zona league leading rush defense.... anybody on under?
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    Zona league leading rush defense.... anybody on under?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 2:31 AM ET #11

    One of the best D's, and a decent one... high total.... semi-lean on under

    also leaned NO-NYG under last week, but at least another "decent" D stopped the giants....
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    One of the best D's, and a decent one... high total.... semi-lean on under

    also leaned NO-NYG under last week, but at least another "decent" D stopped the giants....
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 3:43 AM ET #12

    Last week's embarrassment was chalked up to how AMAZING the Saints are. And, they are. But, the underreported story of the week was the lack of quality wins NYG had in going 5-0. Remember the 6-0 Bills last year? Most people probably don't. It's because they hadn't beaten anyone with a winning record and that was quickly exposed once they got to the meat of their schedule. Well, this is the week the Giants are officially exposed as the average team that they are. The secondary was a joke last week. It'll be equally comical this week against the best receiving corp in the NFL. Zona +7.
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    Last week's embarrassment was chalked up to how AMAZING the Saints are. And, they are. But, the underreported story of the week was the lack of quality wins NYG had in going 5-0. Remember the 6-0 Bills last year? Most people probably don't. It's because they hadn't beaten anyone with a winning record and that was quickly exposed once they got to the meat of their schedule. Well, this is the week the Giants are officially exposed as the average team that they are. The secondary was a joke last week. It'll be equally comical this week against the best receiving corp in the NFL. Zona +7.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 7:18 AM ET #13

    THE WEATHER IS NOT A FACTOR...AROUND 54 DEGREES...THIS GAME HAS TO GO OVER THESE TEAMS CAN SCORE...

     

    NY 38-ARI-28

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    THE WEATHER IS NOT A FACTOR...AROUND 54 DEGREES...THIS GAME HAS TO GO OVER THESE TEAMS CAN SCORE...

     

    NY 38-ARI-28

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 12:47 PM ET #14

    manning will get a cheat cheat from his brother payton and the g men get it done here

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    manning will get a cheat cheat from his brother payton and the g men get it done here

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 5:58 PM ET #15

    Cards to Cover  
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    Cards to Cover  
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 8:29 PM ET #16

    i'm sorry bobseger but when you picked st.louis to cover over the colts, i cut you out lol sorry man
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    i'm sorry bobseger but when you picked st.louis to cover over the colts, i cut you out lol sorry man
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 10:20 PM ET #17

         Talent-wise both teams are pretty identical. Tell you the truth, this game scares the shit out of me- I'm keeping my money in my billfold! All signs point to the G-Men bouncing back from their poor performance in th Big Easy. However,  some stats, as well as a generous spread of 7, tells me to forget this one.
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         Talent-wise both teams are pretty identical. Tell you the truth, this game scares the shit out of me- I'm keeping my money in my billfold! All signs point to the G-Men bouncing back from their poor performance in th Big Easy. However,  some stats, as well as a generous spread of 7, tells me to forget this one.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2009 - 9:06 AM ET #18

    Giants will win this one though not crazy about laying 7 with Soft Blue secondary vs. Cardinal speed receivers .Advantage goes to Eli with quick score ability , longer pass completion percentage over Warner ,who's more likely to stick to shorter pass ,ground game, doing everything to keep Eli on the side,something they could not do vs.Peyton blowout.
    Sense this game going down to the wire .
    Pass game or tease it down to 1.

      
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    Giants will win this one though not crazy about laying 7 with Soft Blue secondary vs. Cardinal speed receivers .Advantage goes to Eli with quick score ability , longer pass completion percentage over Warner ,who's more likely to stick to shorter pass ,ground game, doing everything to keep Eli on the side,something they could not do vs.Peyton blowout.
    Sense this game going down to the wire .
    Pass game or tease it down to 1.

      
      BOLA 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2009 - 11:49 AM ET #19

    ok  The Giants are 2-0 at home this year, outscoring opponents 33.5-12.0, and are on a 13-4 ATS run as chalk. Road teams are on a 6-3 ATS run in the L9 games of this H2h series, and under the total has converted in six of the last eight.Fortunately for New York, the Cardinals haven’t had anywhere near the consistency of the Saints. The last time the Cardinals played in this stadium was a nightmare. They faced the Jets early last season and fell behind 34-0 at the half en route to a 56-35 loss that featured a club-record-tying six touchdown.

    The Cardinals have played in the 33-year-old structure that serves as home to the Giants and Jets 17 times since the move and won twice. The last win came in 1999.

    The Giants return home after being embarrassed 48-27 by the undefeated Saints in New Orleans, and they are looking to make amends.

    cardinals have not yet to win 2 in a row but this year, i don't think they will go 3 in a row.

    hungry giants -7 for me

    i hope i helped everyone.

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    ok  The Giants are 2-0 at home this year, outscoring opponents 33.5-12.0, and are on a 13-4 ATS run as chalk. Road teams are on a 6-3 ATS run in the L9 games of this H2h series, and under the total has converted in six of the last eight.Fortunately for New York, the Cardinals haven’t had anywhere near the consistency of the Saints. The last time the Cardinals played in this stadium was a nightmare. They faced the Jets early last season and fell behind 34-0 at the half en route to a 56-35 loss that featured a club-record-tying six touchdown.

    The Cardinals have played in the 33-year-old structure that serves as home to the Giants and Jets 17 times since the move and won twice. The last win came in 1999.

    The Giants return home after being embarrassed 48-27 by the undefeated Saints in New Orleans, and they are looking to make amends.

    cardinals have not yet to win 2 in a row but this year, i don't think they will go 3 in a row.

    hungry giants -7 for me

    i hope i helped everyone.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2009 - 1:27 PM ET #20

    After a tough loss last week I see the NYG coming out big here

    it is a lot of points for a pretty powerful ARI offence but i see NYG D stepping up this game

    I'll take the G-MEN to cover 

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    After a tough loss last week I see the NYG coming out big here

    it is a lot of points for a pretty powerful ARI offence but i see NYG D stepping up this game

    I'll take the G-MEN to cover 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2009 - 2:12 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by coltsalltheway:

    ok  The Giants are 2-0 at home this year, outscoring opponents 33.5-12.0, and are on a 13-4 ATS run as chalk. Road teams are on a 6-3 ATS run in the L9 games of this H2h series, and under the total has converted in six of the last eight.Fortunately for New York, the Cardinals haven’t had anywhere near the consistency of the Saints. The last time the Cardinals played in this stadium was a nightmare. They faced the Jets early last season and fell behind 34-0 at the half en route to a 56-35 loss that featured a club-record-tying six touchdown.

    The Cardinals have played in the 33-year-old structure that serves as home to the Giants and Jets 17 times since the move and won twice. The last win came in 1999.

    The Giants return home after being embarrassed 48-27 by the undefeated Saints in New Orleans, and they are looking to make amends.

    cardinals have not yet to win 2 in a row but this year, i don't think they will go 3 in a row.

    hungry giants -7 for me

    i hope i helped everyone.

    Most pick giants to win ,would help if you mentioned who giants beat to be 2-0 at home. OAK and WASH !!!! and wash was a push !cardinals were laughing stock of nfl,so past stadium trends ???giants own cardinals bottom line but check giants injuries and check warners quarterback rating and think cardinals played in superbowl last year.everybody knows giants got embarrassed 48 -27 last week.cardinals have not yet to win 2 in a row but this year ,i don't think they will go 3 in a row ???!!!??? hungry or not,7 is high.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coltsalltheway:

    ok  The Giants are 2-0 at home this year, outscoring opponents 33.5-12.0, and are on a 13-4 ATS run as chalk. Road teams are on a 6-3 ATS run in the L9 games of this H2h series, and under the total has converted in six of the last eight.Fortunately for New York, the Cardinals haven’t had anywhere near the consistency of the Saints. The last time the Cardinals played in this stadium was a nightmare. They faced the Jets early last season and fell behind 34-0 at the half en route to a 56-35 loss that featured a club-record-tying six touchdown.

    The Cardinals have played in the 33-year-old structure that serves as home to the Giants and Jets 17 times since the move and won twice. The last win came in 1999.

    The Giants return home after being embarrassed 48-27 by the undefeated Saints in New Orleans, and they are looking to make amends.

    cardinals have not yet to win 2 in a row but this year, i don't think they will go 3 in a row.

    hungry giants -7 for me

    i hope i helped everyone.

    Most pick giants to win ,would help if you mentioned who giants beat to be 2-0 at home. OAK and WASH !!!! and wash was a push !cardinals were laughing stock of nfl,so past stadium trends ???giants own cardinals bottom line but check giants injuries and check warners quarterback rating and think cardinals played in superbowl last year.everybody knows giants got embarrassed 48 -27 last week.cardinals have not yet to win 2 in a row but this year ,i don't think they will go 3 in a row ???!!!??? hungry or not,7 is high.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2009 - 6:27 PM ET #22

    Winner444 i love how people with 1 post are arguing with me. it sounds like covers hire people to do this. ok then pick the cardinals. why do i care?
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    Winner444 i love how people with 1 post are arguing with me. it sounds like covers hire people to do this. ok then pick the cardinals. why do i care?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2009 - 7:53 PM ET #23

    You believe covers hire people to argue with you  ???????
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    You believe covers hire people to argue with you  ???????
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2009 - 7:57 PM ET #24

    [Quote: Originally Posted by coltsalltheway] i'm sorry bobseger but when you picked st.louis to cover over the colts, i cut you out lol sorry man

    I know. What's wrong with me?  

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by coltsalltheway] i'm sorry bobseger but when you picked st.louis to cover over the colts, i cut you out lol sorry man

    I know. What's wrong with me?  

     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2009 - 9:09 PM ET #25

    lol bobseger.

    winner444?? go get your picks man i don't care, thought i told you that.

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    lol bobseger.

    winner444?? go get your picks man i don't care, thought i told you that.

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