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    Arizona at Atlanta (11/30/2014)

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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2014 - 12:54 AM ET #1

    Away:  Arizona [8-3 ATS]
    Home:  Atlanta [4-7 ATS]

    Game Time: 4:05 PM
    Stadium: Georgia Dome

    Featured Lines

    Recent Meetings:
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    Team Leaders:

    Arizona:
    Passing: Carson Palmer (1626)
    Rushing: Andre Ellington (648)
    Receiving: Larry Fitzgerald (658)

    Atlanta:
    Passing: Matt Ryan (3066)
    Rushing: Steven Jackson (501)
    Receiving: Julio Jones (980)

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    Away:  Arizona [8-3 ATS]
    Home:  Atlanta [4-7 ATS]

    Game Time: 4:05 PM
    Stadium: Georgia Dome

    Featured Lines

    Recent Meetings:
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    Team Leaders:

    Arizona:
    Passing: Carson Palmer (1626)
    Rushing: Andre Ellington (648)
    Receiving: Larry Fitzgerald (658)

    Atlanta:
    Passing: Matt Ryan (3066)
    Rushing: Steven Jackson (501)
    Receiving: Julio Jones (980)

     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2014 - 1:52 AM ET #2

    Atlanta .......... I would love to lay it down big , but I'm rooting for them to win the division so I may lay off

    Good spot for Mike Smith and Atlanta to bounce back
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    Atlanta .......... I would love to lay it down big , but I'm rooting for them to win the division so I may lay off

    Good spot for Mike Smith and Atlanta to bounce back
     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2014 - 3:40 PM ET #3

    The Cards offense is done. The last two games without Palmer have changed the whole dynamic. Stanton is a third string QB and it shows. Atlanta just plain sucks. Worst head coach and coordinators in the NFL. The biggest mismatch in this game is offense. The Falcons will score 20 plus at home, but I can't see the cards doing even close to that. Even against the horrible defense Atlanta trots out there. 

    Atlanta +3 
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    The Cards offense is done. The last two games without Palmer have changed the whole dynamic. Stanton is a third string QB and it shows. Atlanta just plain sucks. Worst head coach and coordinators in the NFL. The biggest mismatch in this game is offense. The Falcons will score 20 plus at home, but I can't see the cards doing even close to that. Even against the horrible defense Atlanta trots out there. 

    Atlanta +3 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2014 - 7:21 AM ET #4

    The collapse of the cardinals has already started. They are going to have a very tough time ending the season with wins. To start you now have Stanton at QB who can not move the ball at all. Add to that that Larry Fitz is really banged up (sprained mcl) and may not play again this week. Michael Floyd has been non existent, even with Fitz out, when most people thought he would overtake Fitz as Arizona's #1 WR. And then there's Ellington. He's also banged up. The team is clearly concerned as they just signed michael bush yesterday. Ellington has been real bad the past few weeks averaging less than 1.9 yards a carry his last three games (89 yards on 47 carries). I don't expect him to get going even against the sh1tty Falcons defense. On the other side, you have more talent with Atlanta's offense. I get it that they also haven't played well, but the talent and weapons are still there. Edge at QB. Edge at WR. Edge at RB. The offensive line and defense are serious question marks, but I definitely expect them to be able to put up 20+ points pretty easily while I'm not convinced that Arizona can do the same. Add in Zona is flying across the country to play a 1:00 game. Add in that the Falcons are typically a tough team at home, even if that hasn't necessarily been true this season. Add in that Atlanta is still tied for first in their division (as ridiculous as that is) and they'll be a hungry team looking to win and stay in it. Also add in that Zona played seattle last week. There's a crazy stat out there that I'll try and find, but teams that play seattle one week typically lose the next mostly attributed to how physical the Hawks play. They beat teams up and they stomped the cards last week. Add in that 75% of the public is on the cards........Sucker bet in the making. Keep the 2.5 points. I've got Atlanta winning this one outright!
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    The collapse of the cardinals has already started. They are going to have a very tough time ending the season with wins. To start you now have Stanton at QB who can not move the ball at all. Add to that that Larry Fitz is really banged up (sprained mcl) and may not play again this week. Michael Floyd has been non existent, even with Fitz out, when most people thought he would overtake Fitz as Arizona's #1 WR. And then there's Ellington. He's also banged up. The team is clearly concerned as they just signed michael bush yesterday. Ellington has been real bad the past few weeks averaging less than 1.9 yards a carry his last three games (89 yards on 47 carries). I don't expect him to get going even against the sh1tty Falcons defense. On the other side, you have more talent with Atlanta's offense. I get it that they also haven't played well, but the talent and weapons are still there. Edge at QB. Edge at WR. Edge at RB. The offensive line and defense are serious question marks, but I definitely expect them to be able to put up 20+ points pretty easily while I'm not convinced that Arizona can do the same. Add in Zona is flying across the country to play a 1:00 game. Add in that the Falcons are typically a tough team at home, even if that hasn't necessarily been true this season. Add in that Atlanta is still tied for first in their division (as ridiculous as that is) and they'll be a hungry team looking to win and stay in it. Also add in that Zona played seattle last week. There's a crazy stat out there that I'll try and find, but teams that play seattle one week typically lose the next mostly attributed to how physical the Hawks play. They beat teams up and they stomped the cards last week. Add in that 75% of the public is on the cards........Sucker bet in the making. Keep the 2.5 points. I've got Atlanta winning this one outright!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2014 - 7:53 AM ET #5

    Hoping the AZ worshippers start betting this up.  I would love to get ATL +3.5.

    Even with Stanton, AZ is a better team overall.

    Playing in ATL is a vacation from Seattle.

    May put something on the OV with ATL teased.

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    Hoping the AZ worshippers start betting this up.  I would love to get ATL +3.5.

    Even with Stanton, AZ is a better team overall.

    Playing in ATL is a vacation from Seattle.

    May put something on the OV with ATL teased.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2014 - 4:18 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by king_of_diamond:

    The collapse of the cardinals has already started. They are going to have a very tough time ending the season with wins. To start you now have Stanton at QB who can not move the ball at all. Add to that that Larry Fitz is really banged up (sprained mcl) and may not play again this week. Michael Floyd has been non existent, even with Fitz out, when most people thought he would overtake Fitz as Arizona's #1 WR. And then there's Ellington. He's also banged up. The team is clearly concerned as they just signed michael bush yesterday. Ellington has been real bad the past few weeks averaging less than 1.9 yards a carry his last three games (89 yards on 47 carries). I don't expect him to get going even against the sh1tty Falcons defense. On the other side, you have more talent with Atlanta's offense. I get it that they also haven't played well, but the talent and weapons are still there. Edge at QB. Edge at WR. Edge at RB. The offensive line and defense are serious question marks, but I definitely expect them to be able to put up 20+ points pretty easily while I'm not convinced that Arizona can do the same. Add in Zona is flying across the country to play a 1:00 game. Add in that the Falcons are typically a tough team at home, even if that hasn't necessarily been true this season. Add in that Atlanta is still tied for first in their division (as ridiculous as that is) and they'll be a hungry team looking to win and stay in it. Also add in that Zona played seattle last week. There's a crazy stat out there that I'll try and find, but teams that play seattle one week typically lose the next mostly attributed to how physical the Hawks play. They beat teams up and they stomped the cards last week. Add in that 75% of the public is on the cards........Sucker bet in the making. Keep the 2.5 points. I've got Atlanta winning this one outright!

    I need to change one thing in my analysis. This is a 4:00 game, not a 1:00. It doesn't change anything for me. Rolling with Atlanta. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by king_of_diamond:

    The collapse of the cardinals has already started. They are going to have a very tough time ending the season with wins. To start you now have Stanton at QB who can not move the ball at all. Add to that that Larry Fitz is really banged up (sprained mcl) and may not play again this week. Michael Floyd has been non existent, even with Fitz out, when most people thought he would overtake Fitz as Arizona's #1 WR. And then there's Ellington. He's also banged up. The team is clearly concerned as they just signed michael bush yesterday. Ellington has been real bad the past few weeks averaging less than 1.9 yards a carry his last three games (89 yards on 47 carries). I don't expect him to get going even against the sh1tty Falcons defense. On the other side, you have more talent with Atlanta's offense. I get it that they also haven't played well, but the talent and weapons are still there. Edge at QB. Edge at WR. Edge at RB. The offensive line and defense are serious question marks, but I definitely expect them to be able to put up 20+ points pretty easily while I'm not convinced that Arizona can do the same. Add in Zona is flying across the country to play a 1:00 game. Add in that the Falcons are typically a tough team at home, even if that hasn't necessarily been true this season. Add in that Atlanta is still tied for first in their division (as ridiculous as that is) and they'll be a hungry team looking to win and stay in it. Also add in that Zona played seattle last week. There's a crazy stat out there that I'll try and find, but teams that play seattle one week typically lose the next mostly attributed to how physical the Hawks play. They beat teams up and they stomped the cards last week. Add in that 75% of the public is on the cards........Sucker bet in the making. Keep the 2.5 points. I've got Atlanta winning this one outright!

    I need to change one thing in my analysis. This is a 4:00 game, not a 1:00. It doesn't change anything for me. Rolling with Atlanta. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2014 - 10:47 AM ET #7

    Good analysis.  Two counter points....

    1.  Huge coaching advantage with AZ
    2.  AZ is tougher team by far.
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    Good analysis.  Two counter points....

    1.  Huge coaching advantage with AZ
    2.  AZ is tougher team by far.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2014 - 11:20 AM ET #8

    These quotes are so funny! The Cards will win and will cover by at least 7pts
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    These quotes are so funny! The Cards will win and will cover by at least 7pts
     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2014 - 2:36 PM ET #9

    Cardinals D holds up this week, Atlanta being way overhyped at 4-7......Cards win 24-13
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    Cardinals D holds up this week, Atlanta being way overhyped at 4-7......Cards win 24-13
     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2014 - 8:38 PM ET #10

    All this Atlanta love are you kidding. Spin it anyway you want. Cards will WIN!
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    All this Atlanta love are you kidding. Spin it anyway you want. Cards will WIN!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2014 - 12:03 AM ET #11

    And then there's REVERSE LINE MOVEMENT!  70% of the public on the Arizona Cardinals everywhere you look and the line is moving the other way. The writing is on the wall. Atlanta's the play in this one. 
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    And then there's REVERSE LINE MOVEMENT!  70% of the public on the Arizona Cardinals everywhere you look and the line is moving the other way. The writing is on the wall. Atlanta's the play in this one. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2014 - 2:59 AM ET #12

    Like Falcons
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    Like Falcons
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2014 - 2:59 AM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by king_of_diamond:

    And then there's REVERSE LINE MOVEMENT!  70% of the public on the Arizona Cardinals everywhere you look and the line is moving the other way. The writing is on the wall. Atlanta's the play in this one. 
     

    Agree there.  Plus Fitzgerald is a game time decision. 

    Atl +2.5

    Tease.  ATL  +8.4  OV  38.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by king_of_diamond:

    And then there's REVERSE LINE MOVEMENT!  70% of the public on the Arizona Cardinals everywhere you look and the line is moving the other way. The writing is on the wall. Atlanta's the play in this one. 
     

    Agree there.  Plus Fitzgerald is a game time decision. 

    Atl +2.5

    Tease.  ATL  +8.4  OV  38.5

     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2014 - 9:44 AM ET #14

    Atlanta and the under is the sure bet!
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    Atlanta and the under is the sure bet!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2014 - 10:27 AM ET #15


    Against the spread
    ARIZONA 7-1 against conference opponents
    ARIZONA 8-1 when playing with 6 or less days rest
    ARIZONA 5-1 in dome games
    ARIZONA 7-2 in games played on turf

    Current Season Performance

    ARIZONA 6-0 Straight Up in dome games

    -Arizona has been held to a field goal over its last 7 quarters
    -Larry Fitzgerald (sprained knee) game-time decision
    -Falcons pass defense has surrendered more than 320 yards in each of the past 3 home losses
    -Cardinals have lost 6 straight in Atlanta

    Lean

    Cards -2.5







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    Against the spread
    ARIZONA 7-1 against conference opponents
    ARIZONA 8-1 when playing with 6 or less days rest
    ARIZONA 5-1 in dome games
    ARIZONA 7-2 in games played on turf

    Current Season Performance

    ARIZONA 6-0 Straight Up in dome games

    -Arizona has been held to a field goal over its last 7 quarters
    -Larry Fitzgerald (sprained knee) game-time decision
    -Falcons pass defense has surrendered more than 320 yards in each of the past 3 home losses
    -Cardinals have lost 6 straight in Atlanta

    Lean

    Cards -2.5







     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2014 - 10:42 AM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by king_of_diamond:

    The collapse of the cardinals has already started. They are going to have a very tough time ending the season with wins. To start you now have Stanton at QB who can not move the ball at all. Add to that that Larry Fitz is really banged up (sprained mcl) and may not play again this week. Michael Floyd has been non existent, even with Fitz out, when most people thought he would overtake Fitz as Arizona's #1 WR. And then there's Ellington. He's also banged up. The team is clearly concerned as they just signed michael bush yesterday. Ellington has been real bad the past few weeks averaging less than 1.9 yards a carry his last three games (89 yards on 47 carries). I don't expect him to get going even against the sh1tty Falcons defense. On the other side, you have more talent with Atlanta's offense. I get it that they also haven't played well, but the talent and weapons are still there. Edge at QB. Edge at WR. Edge at RB. The offensive line and defense are serious question marks, but I definitely expect them to be able to put up 20+ points pretty easily while I'm not convinced that Arizona can do the same. Add in Zona is flying across the country to play a 1:00 game. Add in that the Falcons are typically a tough team at home, even if that hasn't necessarily been true this season. Add in that Atlanta is still tied for first in their division (as ridiculous as that is) and they'll be a hungry team looking to win and stay in it. Also add in that Zona played seattle last week. There's a crazy stat out there that I'll try and find, but teams that play seattle one week typically lose the next mostly attributed to how physical the Hawks play. They beat teams up and they stomped the cards last week. Add in that 75% of the public is on the cards........Sucker bet in the making. Keep the 2.5 points. I've got Atlanta winning this one outright!

    I was on Atlanta before I read this, now I feel much better someone else is seeing it the same way I do !  

    Great Job brother, thanks for taking the time ! This is why I read every thread here on NFL games. 

    And now we are seeing line movement in Atlanta's favor .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by king_of_diamond:

    The collapse of the cardinals has already started. They are going to have a very tough time ending the season with wins. To start you now have Stanton at QB who can not move the ball at all. Add to that that Larry Fitz is really banged up (sprained mcl) and may not play again this week. Michael Floyd has been non existent, even with Fitz out, when most people thought he would overtake Fitz as Arizona's #1 WR. And then there's Ellington. He's also banged up. The team is clearly concerned as they just signed michael bush yesterday. Ellington has been real bad the past few weeks averaging less than 1.9 yards a carry his last three games (89 yards on 47 carries). I don't expect him to get going even against the sh1tty Falcons defense. On the other side, you have more talent with Atlanta's offense. I get it that they also haven't played well, but the talent and weapons are still there. Edge at QB. Edge at WR. Edge at RB. The offensive line and defense are serious question marks, but I definitely expect them to be able to put up 20+ points pretty easily while I'm not convinced that Arizona can do the same. Add in Zona is flying across the country to play a 1:00 game. Add in that the Falcons are typically a tough team at home, even if that hasn't necessarily been true this season. Add in that Atlanta is still tied for first in their division (as ridiculous as that is) and they'll be a hungry team looking to win and stay in it. Also add in that Zona played seattle last week. There's a crazy stat out there that I'll try and find, but teams that play seattle one week typically lose the next mostly attributed to how physical the Hawks play. They beat teams up and they stomped the cards last week. Add in that 75% of the public is on the cards........Sucker bet in the making. Keep the 2.5 points. I've got Atlanta winning this one outright!

    I was on Atlanta before I read this, now I feel much better someone else is seeing it the same way I do !  

    Great Job brother, thanks for taking the time ! This is why I read every thread here on NFL games. 

    And now we are seeing line movement in Atlanta's favor .....

     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2014 - 11:30 AM ET #17

    UH!... CARDS only lay 1.5 points....Expecting line should have been at least +3 or more. Will tease + Falcons +7.5 and Packers ML.....
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    UH!... CARDS only lay 1.5 points....Expecting line should have been at least +3 or more. Will tease + Falcons +7.5 and Packers ML.....
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2014 - 11:31 AM ET #18

    Opps ...I meant Falcons +7.5 + Packers +3.5
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    Opps ...I meant Falcons +7.5 + Packers +3.5
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2014 - 12:35 PM ET #19

    Under 44.5
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    Under 44.5
     
    KongKiller
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2014 - 4:27 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmydon:

    All this Atlanta love are you kidding. Spin it anyway you want. Cards will WIN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmydon:

    All this Atlanta love are you kidding. Spin it anyway you want. Cards will WIN!

     
    king_of_diamond
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2014 - 6:57 PM ET #21

    Let's see....

    Cards offense struggled.  Fitz didn't play.  Floyd was nonexistent. Ellington injured. They didn't score 20. Atlanta did. 

    I didn't see that coming at all. 
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    Let's see....

    Cards offense struggled.  Fitz didn't play.  Floyd was nonexistent. Ellington injured. They didn't score 20. Atlanta did. 

    I didn't see that coming at all. 
     
    rkapur105
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2014 - 8:06 PM ET #22

    These expert predictions are hilarious after the fact. 
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    These expert predictions are hilarious after the fact. 
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2014 - 10:25 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by rkapur105:

    These expert predictions are hilarious after the fact. 

    After the fact?  You obviously didn't read the thread. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by rkapur105:

    These expert predictions are hilarious after the fact. 

    After the fact?  You obviously didn't read the thread. 
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