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    What's the matter with the Swede today?

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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2017 - 12:56 PM ET #1

    The Swede (DJT until he gets over the Pocahontas thing) has not tweeted all morning. Is he in the can puking up over Michael Flynn flipping on him? Anyone embracing the domino theory yet? Looks like the Swede and his cohorts think they are better at the cover up than Nixon and his crowd. 
     
    Now and then even a BLIND squirrel can find an acorn
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    The Swede (DJT until he gets over the Pocahontas thing) has not tweeted all morning. Is he in the can puking up over Michael Flynn flipping on him? Anyone embracing the domino theory yet? Looks like the Swede and his cohorts think they are better at the cover up than Nixon and his crowd. 
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2017 - 1:05 PM ET #2

    Yeah if this were 4 yrs ago we would have ten threads about it by now.

    The amusing part that I see out there is his supporters are falling back on silly retorts about Clinton did this and how come she isnt prosecuted and the dates were too late (even though he had not been sworn in yet) all the technicalities typical of covering for the joker.

    Lying to the FBI is going to get someone in trouble and if Flynn has something to say, who knows what might come out...maybe nothing, maybe something.

    I consider this akin to these sex scandal events...I dont care which party or person is referenced, if the guy broke the law then he deserves to be kicked out, if not and they close up the investigation then that would also be the correct conclusion.

    I dont get the anger that his supporters have about anyone who crosses his path...its psychotic and very indicative of severe bias issues.
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    Yeah if this were 4 yrs ago we would have ten threads about it by now.

    The amusing part that I see out there is his supporters are falling back on silly retorts about Clinton did this and how come she isnt prosecuted and the dates were too late (even though he had not been sworn in yet) all the technicalities typical of covering for the joker.

    Lying to the FBI is going to get someone in trouble and if Flynn has something to say, who knows what might come out...maybe nothing, maybe something.

    I consider this akin to these sex scandal events...I dont care which party or person is referenced, if the guy broke the law then he deserves to be kicked out, if not and they close up the investigation then that would also be the correct conclusion.

    I dont get the anger that his supporters have about anyone who crosses his path...its psychotic and very indicative of severe bias issues.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2017 - 1:16 PM ET #3

    the one thing you can know for sure based on flynn's charge and plea, he is cooperating with the prosecution.  but, just about everybody does, who gets a chance, so this shouldn't be a big surprise. 
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    the one thing you can know for sure based on flynn's charge and plea, he is cooperating with the prosecution.  but, just about everybody does, who gets a chance, so this shouldn't be a big surprise. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2017 - 1:29 PM ET #4

    News source: Donald J Trump on Michael Flynn's guilty plead, "very, very, very bad!" 
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    News source: Donald J Trump on Michael Flynn's guilty plead, "very, very, very bad!" 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2017 - 1:33 PM ET #5

    Are you guys stating that Trump was not allowed to talk to Russians? Greatest farce in the history of United States politics. All emanating from the criminal and treasonous Left.
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    Are you guys stating that Trump was not allowed to talk to Russians? Greatest farce in the history of United States politics. All emanating from the criminal and treasonous Left.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2017 - 2:09 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    News source: Donald J Trump on Michael Flynn's guilty plead, "very, very, very bad!" 


    A News Source............

    An anonymous tweet from NBCPolitics.com, a politically-oriented blog section of MSNBC.com.

    Sounds like a very,very very reliable source...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    News source: Donald J Trump on Michael Flynn's guilty plead, "very, very, very bad!" 


    A News Source............

    An anonymous tweet from NBCPolitics.com, a politically-oriented blog section of MSNBC.com.

    Sounds like a very,very very reliable source...


     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2017 - 2:18 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Are you guys stating that Trump was not allowed to talk to Russians? Greatest farce in the history of United States politics. All emanating from the criminal and treasonous Left.

    Are you lacking comprehension? This isnt about "talking to the Russians".


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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Are you guys stating that Trump was not allowed to talk to Russians? Greatest farce in the history of United States politics. All emanating from the criminal and treasonous Left.

    Are you lacking comprehension? This isnt about "talking to the Russians".


     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2017 - 2:24 PM ET #8

    Here is the little I know wall.

    Breaking Viral Video: Obama Illegally Wiretapped General Flynn to Obtain Indictment

    Globalists trap Flynn in attempt to derail Trump administration


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    Here is the little I know wall.

    Breaking Viral Video: Obama Illegally Wiretapped General Flynn to Obtain Indictment

    Globalists trap Flynn in attempt to derail Trump administration


     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2017 - 2:28 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:



    A News Source............

    An anonymous tweet from NBCPolitics.com, a politically-oriented blog section of MSNBC.com.

    Sounds like a very,very very reliable source...



    Doesn't matter if you believe it or not. 

    Donald J Trump has abruptly cancelled the scheduled press when he meets with Libyan Prime Minister Fayez Serraj today. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:



    A News Source............

    An anonymous tweet from NBCPolitics.com, a politically-oriented blog section of MSNBC.com.

    Sounds like a very,very very reliable source...



    Doesn't matter if you believe it or not. 

    Donald J Trump has abruptly cancelled the scheduled press when he meets with Libyan Prime Minister Fayez Serraj today. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2017 - 2:43 PM ET #10

    The Russian investigation isn’t about talking to the Russians? 

    Go on..... Tell me more. 

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    The Russian investigation isn’t about talking to the Russians? 

    Go on..... Tell me more. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2017 - 3:03 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    The Russian investigation isn’t about talking to the Russians? 

    Go on..... Tell me more. 


    Read the indictment and get off the alt alt alt right wing blogs and maybe you will see what it is about.

    Talking to the Russians...yeah how is your vodka exports? How is the winter shaping up...

    Yeah its all about talking to the Russians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    The Russian investigation isn’t about talking to the Russians? 

    Go on..... Tell me more. 


    Read the indictment and get off the alt alt alt right wing blogs and maybe you will see what it is about.

    Talking to the Russians...yeah how is your vodka exports? How is the winter shaping up...

    Yeah its all about talking to the Russians.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2017 - 3:28 PM ET #12

    I did read the indictment. 

    It still remains unclear why the Obama Justice Department decided to investigate Flynn. There was nothing wrong with the income NS advisor meeting with Russians. 

    If the FBI had FISA recordings of Flynn’s conversations with Kislyak, there was no need to ask Flynn what the conversation entailed. 

    Flynn is prepared to testify that Trump or Kushner directed home to make contact with the Russians - initially to lay the ground work for mutual efforts against ISIS in Syria. 

    The penalty for what Flynn has been charged with is 0-6 months in jail and a fine up to $9000. 

    Nothingburger. 

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    I did read the indictment. 

    It still remains unclear why the Obama Justice Department decided to investigate Flynn. There was nothing wrong with the income NS advisor meeting with Russians. 

    If the FBI had FISA recordings of Flynn’s conversations with Kislyak, there was no need to ask Flynn what the conversation entailed. 

    Flynn is prepared to testify that Trump or Kushner directed home to make contact with the Russians - initially to lay the ground work for mutual efforts against ISIS in Syria. 

    The penalty for what Flynn has been charged with is 0-6 months in jail and a fine up to $9000. 

    Nothingburger. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2017 - 3:35 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    I did read the indictment. 

    It still remains unclear why the Obama Justice Department decided to investigate Flynn. There was nothing wrong with the income NS advisor meeting with Russians. 

    If the FBI had FISA recordings of Flynn’s conversations with Kislyak, there was no need to ask Flynn what the conversation entailed. 

    Flynn is prepared to testify that Trump or Kushner directed home to make contact with the Russians - initially to lay the ground work for mutual efforts against ISIS in Syria. 

    The penalty for what Flynn has been charged with is 0-6 months in jail and a fine up to $9000. 

    Nothingburger. 



    i'll disregard the assumptions but note that that is not the penalty for this charge.  however, it is a minor charge which should tell you that flynn is doing some serious cooperating. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    I did read the indictment. 

    It still remains unclear why the Obama Justice Department decided to investigate Flynn. There was nothing wrong with the income NS advisor meeting with Russians. 

    If the FBI had FISA recordings of Flynn’s conversations with Kislyak, there was no need to ask Flynn what the conversation entailed. 

    Flynn is prepared to testify that Trump or Kushner directed home to make contact with the Russians - initially to lay the ground work for mutual efforts against ISIS in Syria. 

    The penalty for what Flynn has been charged with is 0-6 months in jail and a fine up to $9000. 

    Nothingburger. 



    i'll disregard the assumptions but note that that is not the penalty for this charge.  however, it is a minor charge which should tell you that flynn is doing some serious cooperating. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2017 - 3:43 PM ET #14

    Estimated applicable guidelines range 

    0-6 months in jail 

    Fine between $500-$9500 


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    Estimated applicable guidelines range 

    0-6 months in jail 

    Fine between $500-$9500 


     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2017 - 3:44 PM ET #15

    And how could a meeting taking place a month after the election constitute “collusion” to get Trump elected?

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    And how could a meeting taking place a month after the election constitute “collusion” to get Trump elected?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2017 - 3:50 PM ET #16

    General Michael Flynn is a perfect example why President Trump should not have hired a former Obama administration official..
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    General Michael Flynn is a perfect example why President Trump should not have hired a former Obama administration official..
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2017 - 4:20 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Estimated applicable guidelines range 

    0-6 months in jail 

    Fine between $500-$9500 




    his guideline range will likely be 0-6 months.  but that is not the  penalty range.  that's just a suggestion.  the guidelines don't suggest fines. 

    at the end of the day, as long as he cooperates, he's not likely to go to jail for this.  he's getting a very good deal, unless he f*cks it up. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Estimated applicable guidelines range 

    0-6 months in jail 

    Fine between $500-$9500 




    his guideline range will likely be 0-6 months.  but that is not the  penalty range.  that's just a suggestion.  the guidelines don't suggest fines. 

    at the end of the day, as long as he cooperates, he's not likely to go to jail for this.  he's getting a very good deal, unless he f*cks it up. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2017 - 5:03 PM ET #18

    What we really need around here is a kissy-kissy room for the Swede, detox and sundance. Politics make strange bedfellows, and it doesn't get any stranger than that.
    Now and then even a BLIND squirrel can find an acorn
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    What we really need around here is a kissy-kissy room for the Swede, detox and sundance. Politics make strange bedfellows, and it doesn't get any stranger than that.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2017 - 5:05 PM ET #19

    KeyElement, you offer nothing to this discussion. Just sit on the sidelines and learn. 

    Thank you. 

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    KeyElement, you offer nothing to this discussion. Just sit on the sidelines and learn. 

    Thank you. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2017 - 5:10 PM ET #20

    The country is rolling again Key. We are witnessing the transformation of America. Exciting times!
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    The country is rolling again Key. We are witnessing the transformation of America. Exciting times!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2017 - 6:41 PM ET #21

    BREAKING: ABC News spokesperson tells me that “World News” will clarify that this should be president-elect Trump, not candidate Trump.


    In other words, President elect and his transition team were doing exactly what they were supposed to do. 

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    BREAKING: ABC News spokesperson tells me that “World News” will clarify that this should be president-elect Trump, not candidate Trump.


    In other words, President elect and his transition team were doing exactly what they were supposed to do. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2017 - 6:47 PM ET #22

    So, Trump was already elected and then reached out to a foreign government...

    Collusion 
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    So, Trump was already elected and then reached out to a foreign government...

    Collusion 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    BREAKING: ABC News spokesperson tells me that “World News” will clarify that this should be president-elect Trump, not candidate Trump.


    In other words, President elect and his transition team were doing exactly what they were supposed to do. 

    Stay tuned. During the campaign and transition the candidates and electees have no authority
    whatsoever to discuss sanctions and/or political coordination with any foreign power. The only one getting a bigger laugh out of your opinions than me is Vladimir Putin. He has got the Swede exactly where he wants him, an incompetent amateur playing emperor on the world stage. 

    It may be early but I have to wonder how many Republican congresspersons and senators will be asking the Swede to come to their home states and districts to campaign for them. His coattails weren't very long (non-existent) in Virginia and Alabama won't count, due to the stacked conditions in place there. 

    Now and then even a BLIND squirrel can find an acorn
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    BREAKING: ABC News spokesperson tells me that “World News” will clarify that this should be president-elect Trump, not candidate Trump.


    In other words, President elect and his transition team were doing exactly what they were supposed to do. 

    Stay tuned. During the campaign and transition the candidates and electees have no authority
    whatsoever to discuss sanctions and/or political coordination with any foreign power. The only one getting a bigger laugh out of your opinions than me is Vladimir Putin. He has got the Swede exactly where he wants him, an incompetent amateur playing emperor on the world stage. 

    It may be early but I have to wonder how many Republican congresspersons and senators will be asking the Swede to come to their home states and districts to campaign for them. His coattails weren't very long (non-existent) in Virginia and Alabama won't count, due to the stacked conditions in place there. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2017 - 7:10 PM ET #24

    The discussion was about their efforts to defeat ISIS 


    An amateur playing on the world stage? 

    The owner/president of an international conglomerate with plenty of experience on the world stage

    Vs 

    A community organizer with a net worth of $1 million 

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    The discussion was about their efforts to defeat ISIS 


    An amateur playing on the world stage? 

    The owner/president of an international conglomerate with plenty of experience on the world stage

    Vs 

    A community organizer with a net worth of $1 million 

     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2017 - 7:22 PM ET #25

    I'm told that ABC News will soon remove the initial tweet and issue another correction -- this time on Twitter.

    After 28,000 retweets a correction will come late Friday night. 

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    I'm told that ABC News will soon remove the initial tweet and issue another correction -- this time on Twitter.

    After 28,000 retweets a correction will come late Friday night. 

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