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    U.S. forces drop ‘mother of all bombs’ on ISIS complex in Afghanistan

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    Posted: Apr. 13, 2017 - 2:00 PM ET #1

    American bombers deployed one of the largest, non-nuclear munitions in the U.S. arsenal on an Islamic State tunnel complex in eastern Afghanistan for the first time, possibly indicating an uptick in operations against the terror group’s faction in the country.

    An MC-130 Combat Talon assigned to U.S. Air Force Special Operations Command dropped a GBU-43, known as the “mother of all bombs,” Thursday on the tunnel complex in the Achin district in eastern Afghanistan’s Nangahar province, which is home to Afghan Islamic State faction, known as Islamic State in Iraq and Syria-Khorasan province, or ISIS-K.

    “The strike was designed to minimize the risk to Afghan and U.S. Forces conducting clearing operations in the area while maximizing the destruction of ISIS-K fighters and facilities,” according to a statement from U.S. Forces-Afghanistan.

    The attack comes as President Trump announced Wednesday that National Security Adviser H.M. McMaster would be heading to Afghanistan, to assess the current state of U.S. operations in the country. Since his stunning electoral in last November, Mr. Trump and his national security team have been mum on the way ahead for the U.S. mission in Afghanistan.

    The last visit by a sitting national security adviser to the country was in 2009. Then-President Barack Obama sent then National Security Adviser Jim Jones to Afghanistan, shortly before announcing his surge strategy for the country. Washington officially ended combat operations there in 2014, taking on a train-and-advise mission shortly thereafter.

    At 22,000 pounds with a blast yield equivalent to 11 tons of TNT, the bomb was initially built to destroy heavily fortified underground enemy bunkers. It is the most powerful conventional weapon in the U.S. armory.

    The decision to use the devastating weapon during the Achin airstrike was necessary, given the increased threat of ISIS-K to Afghan, U.S. and NATO forces in the country, the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan said.

    “As ISIS-K’s losses have mounted, they are using IEDs, bunkers and tunnels to thicken their defense,” Gen. John Nicholson said in a command statement.

    “This is the right munition to reduce these obstacles and maintain the momentum of our offensive against ISIS-K,” he added, noting that U.S. forces will proceed with such operations “until ISIS-K is destroyed in Afghanistan.”

    “The United States takes the fight against ISIS very seriously,” Mr. Spicer said, adding that defeating the group involves eliminating its “operational space.”


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    American bombers deployed one of the largest, non-nuclear munitions in the U.S. arsenal on an Islamic State tunnel complex in eastern Afghanistan for the first time, possibly indicating an uptick in operations against the terror group’s faction in the country.

    An MC-130 Combat Talon assigned to U.S. Air Force Special Operations Command dropped a GBU-43, known as the “mother of all bombs,” Thursday on the tunnel complex in the Achin district in eastern Afghanistan’s Nangahar province, which is home to Afghan Islamic State faction, known as Islamic State in Iraq and Syria-Khorasan province, or ISIS-K.

    “The strike was designed to minimize the risk to Afghan and U.S. Forces conducting clearing operations in the area while maximizing the destruction of ISIS-K fighters and facilities,” according to a statement from U.S. Forces-Afghanistan.

    The attack comes as President Trump announced Wednesday that National Security Adviser H.M. McMaster would be heading to Afghanistan, to assess the current state of U.S. operations in the country. Since his stunning electoral in last November, Mr. Trump and his national security team have been mum on the way ahead for the U.S. mission in Afghanistan.

    The last visit by a sitting national security adviser to the country was in 2009. Then-President Barack Obama sent then National Security Adviser Jim Jones to Afghanistan, shortly before announcing his surge strategy for the country. Washington officially ended combat operations there in 2014, taking on a train-and-advise mission shortly thereafter.

    At 22,000 pounds with a blast yield equivalent to 11 tons of TNT, the bomb was initially built to destroy heavily fortified underground enemy bunkers. It is the most powerful conventional weapon in the U.S. armory.

    The decision to use the devastating weapon during the Achin airstrike was necessary, given the increased threat of ISIS-K to Afghan, U.S. and NATO forces in the country, the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan said.

    “As ISIS-K’s losses have mounted, they are using IEDs, bunkers and tunnels to thicken their defense,” Gen. John Nicholson said in a command statement.

    “This is the right munition to reduce these obstacles and maintain the momentum of our offensive against ISIS-K,” he added, noting that U.S. forces will proceed with such operations “until ISIS-K is destroyed in Afghanistan.”

    “The United States takes the fight against ISIS very seriously,” Mr. Spicer said, adding that defeating the group involves eliminating its “operational space.”


     
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    Posted: Apr. 13, 2017 - 2:00 PM ET #2

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    Posted: Apr. 13, 2017 - 2:01 PM ET #3

    Beautiful Beige • 29 minutes ago

    Isis needs to be eradicated off the face of the earth. It's what the American peolple wanted. Go President Trump go. Show the whole bunch of them that you have more testicular fortitude than Obama, Bush and Clinton put together.

    Get them TRUMP!!!     

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    Beautiful Beige • 29 minutes ago

    Isis needs to be eradicated off the face of the earth. It's what the American peolple wanted. Go President Trump go. Show the whole bunch of them that you have more testicular fortitude than Obama, Bush and Clinton put together.

    Get them TRUMP!!!     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 13, 2017 - 3:12 PM ET #4

    You're an imbecile of the highest order mate. 
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    You're an imbecile of the highest order mate. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 13, 2017 - 3:59 PM ET #5

    Yippee a republican is president so we rev up the war machine again.

    This will accomplish so much, I am very excited for the prospects.

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    Yippee a republican is president so we rev up the war machine again.

    This will accomplish so much, I am very excited for the prospects.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 13, 2017 - 4:45 PM ET #6

    There's gonna be a lot of lonely goats tonight in Afghanistan...
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    There's gonna be a lot of lonely goats tonight in Afghanistan...
     
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    Posted: Apr. 13, 2017 - 4:48 PM ET #7

    America history tells us in the last 100 years the Democrats are really the the one's who rev-up the war machine .....................

    The most aggressive war hawks have been leftist Democrats:

    Woodrow Wilson (D) (WW1)...
    FDR   (D) (WW2).....
    Truman  (D) (the A- bomb & the Korean War)
    Kenned (D) (the Bay of Pigs & the Cuban Missile Crisis)..
    LBJ  (D)  (Vietnam)...
    Clinton  (D)    (Somalia and Serbia)
    Obama (D) (Libya, Syria, ISIS, )


    The Trump Doctrine: "Peace Through Strength"...
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    America history tells us in the last 100 years the Democrats are really the the one's who rev-up the war machine .....................

    The most aggressive war hawks have been leftist Democrats:

    Woodrow Wilson (D) (WW1)...
    FDR   (D) (WW2).....
    Truman  (D) (the A- bomb & the Korean War)
    Kenned (D) (the Bay of Pigs & the Cuban Missile Crisis)..
    LBJ  (D)  (Vietnam)...
    Clinton  (D)    (Somalia and Serbia)
    Obama (D) (Libya, Syria, ISIS, )


    The Trump Doctrine: "Peace Through Strength"...
     
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    Posted: Apr. 13, 2017 - 5:44 PM ET #8

    for just about every president trump action, there's a specific criticism of that action by this guy


    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9Up_HtVYAAZx63.jpg
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    for just about every president trump action, there's a specific criticism of that action by this guy


    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9Up_HtVYAAZx63.jpg
     
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    Posted: Apr. 13, 2017 - 7:20 PM ET #9

    Clinton  (D)    (Somalia and Serbia)
    Obama (D) (Libya, Syria, ISIS, )

    So you compare that to Iraq two times???

    Trump's doctrine is to say whatever the sheep want to hear and then do the opposite when faced with reality.

    Trump bashed Obama for being involved with Syria militarily yet not even 3 months in and the guy is using bogus intel to throw 59 weapons at them.

    How you Trump apologists can ignore his blatant hypocritical decisions is not at all shocking...but it was completely predictable.

    So is China a currency manipulator or not? I guess he will keep waffling every other day like he does with most everything.

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    Clinton  (D)    (Somalia and Serbia)
    Obama (D) (Libya, Syria, ISIS, )

    So you compare that to Iraq two times???

    Trump's doctrine is to say whatever the sheep want to hear and then do the opposite when faced with reality.

    Trump bashed Obama for being involved with Syria militarily yet not even 3 months in and the guy is using bogus intel to throw 59 weapons at them.

    How you Trump apologists can ignore his blatant hypocritical decisions is not at all shocking...but it was completely predictable.

    So is China a currency manipulator or not? I guess he will keep waffling every other day like he does with most everything.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 13, 2017 - 7:25 PM ET #10

    Shortly after news broke that the U.S. military dropped the largest non-nuclear bomb ( MOAB ) in its arsenal on the Islamic State in Afghanistan ...President Trump was asked whether that sent a message to North Korea...

    “I don’t know if this sends a message. ...It doesn’t make any difference if it does or not,” ....... “North Korea is a problem. The problem will be taken care of.”....

    You gotta love the way President Trump frames the message.....


    In North Korea, the previous administration’s approach was known as “strategic patience,” although during former President Barack Obama’s time in office, Pyongyang tested four nuclear devices...sounds more like the former administrations inaction
    wasn't much of a deterrence .....


    Fox News reported the 18th Wing conducted a vast surprise military exercise at Kadena Air Base in Japan that involved HH-60 Pave Hawks, F-15 Eagles, E-3 Sentries and KC-135 Stratotankers...
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    Shortly after news broke that the U.S. military dropped the largest non-nuclear bomb ( MOAB ) in its arsenal on the Islamic State in Afghanistan ...President Trump was asked whether that sent a message to North Korea...

    “I don’t know if this sends a message. ...It doesn’t make any difference if it does or not,” ....... “North Korea is a problem. The problem will be taken care of.”....

    You gotta love the way President Trump frames the message.....


    In North Korea, the previous administration’s approach was known as “strategic patience,” although during former President Barack Obama’s time in office, Pyongyang tested four nuclear devices...sounds more like the former administrations inaction
    wasn't much of a deterrence .....


    Fox News reported the 18th Wing conducted a vast surprise military exercise at Kadena Air Base in Japan that involved HH-60 Pave Hawks, F-15 Eagles, E-3 Sentries and KC-135 Stratotankers...
     
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    Posted: Apr. 13, 2017 - 10:44 PM ET #11

    I 100% disagree...

    Horrible way of responding without thinking, he blurts whatever he thinks and has no idea the consequence of his blabbering mouth.

    If he takes care of this problem the same way he has other things so far, well it wont get done first but it puts MILLIONS of people in jeopardy so he can act like a big bully.

    The people of South Korea are the ones who will carry the burden of our big mouth moron president, and if you think China will keep letting Trump mess in their business I think that is very very wrong.

    Trump is such an embarrassment to this country, this will not end well for us, something bad will happen due to his awful bully approach and his lack of consistency and planning.
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    I 100% disagree...

    Horrible way of responding without thinking, he blurts whatever he thinks and has no idea the consequence of his blabbering mouth.

    If he takes care of this problem the same way he has other things so far, well it wont get done first but it puts MILLIONS of people in jeopardy so he can act like a big bully.

    The people of South Korea are the ones who will carry the burden of our big mouth moron president, and if you think China will keep letting Trump mess in their business I think that is very very wrong.

    Trump is such an embarrassment to this country, this will not end well for us, something bad will happen due to his awful bully approach and his lack of consistency and planning.
     
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    The Trump Doctrine: "Peace Through Strength"...

    Actually it's, "Peace Through Superior Firepower" 
    ~~~~~ZOSO~~~~~
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    The Trump Doctrine: "Peace Through Strength"...

    Actually it's, "Peace Through Superior Firepower" 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2017 - 2:53 AM ET #13

    The best defense is a good offense.

    I think Trump gets a kick out of seeing Qmich go ALL CAPS on his AZZ every day.


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    The best defense is a good offense.

    I think Trump gets a kick out of seeing Qmich go ALL CAPS on his AZZ every day.


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:



    Trump's doctrine is to say whatever the sheep want to hear and then do the opposite when faced with reality.

    How you Trump apologists can ignore his blatant hypocritical decisions is not at all shocking...but it was completely predictable.

    I guess he will keep waffling every other day like he does with most everything.


    That's one way to look at it ...

    OR

    One could view the President's recent decisions as having been made from a place of being well informed with new information, and adjusting accordingly.

    Whether or not the decisions he makes today or in the best interest of the country will not be answered by FOXNews, MSNBC et al ...
    Only history will tell us the truth 
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:



    Trump's doctrine is to say whatever the sheep want to hear and then do the opposite when faced with reality.

    How you Trump apologists can ignore his blatant hypocritical decisions is not at all shocking...but it was completely predictable.

    I guess he will keep waffling every other day like he does with most everything.


    That's one way to look at it ...

    OR

    One could view the President's recent decisions as having been made from a place of being well informed with new information, and adjusting accordingly.

    Whether or not the decisions he makes today or in the best interest of the country will not be answered by FOXNews, MSNBC et al ...
    Only history will tell us the truth 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2017 - 9:00 AM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:


    That's one way to look at it ...

    OR

    One could view the President's recent decisions as having been made from a place of being well informed with new information, and adjusting accordingly.

    Whether or not the decisions he makes today or in the best interest of the country will not be answered by FOXNews, MSNBC et al ...
    Only history will tell us the truth 

    Do you think I watch any of these types of programs?

    Of course not...I make decisions without the need of political biases, and my opinions on Trump come from observation of him and from the actual decisions he makes, his inconsistencies and his lack of focus, and of course his pathetic ego.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:


    That's one way to look at it ...

    OR

    One could view the President's recent decisions as having been made from a place of being well informed with new information, and adjusting accordingly.

    Whether or not the decisions he makes today or in the best interest of the country will not be answered by FOXNews, MSNBC et al ...
    Only history will tell us the truth 

    Do you think I watch any of these types of programs?

    Of course not...I make decisions without the need of political biases, and my opinions on Trump come from observation of him and from the actual decisions he makes, his inconsistencies and his lack of focus, and of course his pathetic ego.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2017 - 10:22 AM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    Do you think I watch any of these types of programs?

    Of course not...I make decisions without the need of political biases, and my opinions on Trump come from observation of him and from the actual decisions he makes, his inconsistencies and his lack of focus, and of course his pathetic ego.


    Our system, I believe was set up so that any avg citizen could become president (of course with advisors) of our republic.

    For years we've had establishment hacks that have used politics to help mostly themselves and their friends.

    Don't you find it even remotely refreshing that we have someone in there that seems to make decisions in real time?

    His opponent was only wanting to be president to fulfill a 40 year old bucket list wish made while at the dinner table across from her husband. She didn't want to be POTUS to truly help our country, but to go down in history books as the first woman president.

    Go back to her speech at the DNC convention for proof of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    Do you think I watch any of these types of programs?

    Of course not...I make decisions without the need of political biases, and my opinions on Trump come from observation of him and from the actual decisions he makes, his inconsistencies and his lack of focus, and of course his pathetic ego.


    Our system, I believe was set up so that any avg citizen could become president (of course with advisors) of our republic.

    For years we've had establishment hacks that have used politics to help mostly themselves and their friends.

    Don't you find it even remotely refreshing that we have someone in there that seems to make decisions in real time?

    His opponent was only wanting to be president to fulfill a 40 year old bucket list wish made while at the dinner table across from her husband. She didn't want to be POTUS to truly help our country, but to go down in history books as the first woman president.

    Go back to her speech at the DNC convention for proof of this.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2017 - 10:55 AM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    Do you think I watch any of these types of programs?

    Of course not...I make decisions without the need of political biases, and my opinions on Trump come from observation of him and from the actual decisions he makes, his inconsistencies and his lack of focus, and of course his pathetic ego.

    I happen to be in agreement with this.
    But I will not let my dislike of Trump's personality push me into rash opinions on his actions.

    If he said/believed one thing last year, and now he has intel that suggests a contrarian view on his previous words is appropriate, what's the big deal?

    Too many people get wrapped up in the ol' "flip-flop" criticism.
    As long as our President is making the "right" decisions, I don't care what he said/believed earlier.

    I felt this same way for every previous President.
    As an American, I just want them to get it right.
    I feel I am in the minority with this view 
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    Do you think I watch any of these types of programs?

    Of course not...I make decisions without the need of political biases, and my opinions on Trump come from observation of him and from the actual decisions he makes, his inconsistencies and his lack of focus, and of course his pathetic ego.

    I happen to be in agreement with this.
    But I will not let my dislike of Trump's personality push me into rash opinions on his actions.

    If he said/believed one thing last year, and now he has intel that suggests a contrarian view on his previous words is appropriate, what's the big deal?

    Too many people get wrapped up in the ol' "flip-flop" criticism.
    As long as our President is making the "right" decisions, I don't care what he said/believed earlier.

    I felt this same way for every previous President.
    As an American, I just want them to get it right.
    I feel I am in the minority with this view 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2017 - 10:58 AM ET #18

    Wally, my comments above are in response to you, but not directed at you.

    Some generalizations in there 
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    Wally, my comments above are in response to you, but not directed at you.

    Some generalizations in there 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2017 - 12:52 PM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:

    Wally, my comments above are in response to you, but not directed at you.

    Some generalizations in there 

    I got what you were meaning..no offense taken.

    I do have a problem with his inconsistencies because he was VERY abusive from the outside, extremely abusive and now he is doing the same thing and worse (IMO) so if nothing else he should acknowledge his arrogance and his errors in abusing Obama as he did...but that big fat mouth will never do something like that.

    I also am not convinced of this intel, and as we know intel is pretty much garbage...it is scripted, molded garbage to forward an agenda and Trump with his skepticism should have taken MUCH MUCH longer to decide what he did, given his level of disdain from the outside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:

    Wally, my comments above are in response to you, but not directed at you.

    Some generalizations in there 

    I got what you were meaning..no offense taken.

    I do have a problem with his inconsistencies because he was VERY abusive from the outside, extremely abusive and now he is doing the same thing and worse (IMO) so if nothing else he should acknowledge his arrogance and his errors in abusing Obama as he did...but that big fat mouth will never do something like that.

    I also am not convinced of this intel, and as we know intel is pretty much garbage...it is scripted, molded garbage to forward an agenda and Trump with his skepticism should have taken MUCH MUCH longer to decide what he did, given his level of disdain from the outside.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2017 - 5:33 PM ET #20


    So, did we bomb anybody today?

    Oh, I forgot.

    The day isn't over yet.
    ~~~~~ZOSO~~~~~
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    So, did we bomb anybody today?

    Oh, I forgot.

    The day isn't over yet.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2017 - 6:51 PM ET #21

    I saw a statement from a general on the bombing.  It basically suggested that this is part of a long-term strategy they've discussed for defeating ISIS.  However, if it didn't reduce the capability of ISIS to function within Afghanistan by more than 5%, than I'd say the overall impact from this individual attack wasn't really significant enough to receive the attention that it did. 
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    I saw a statement from a general on the bombing.  It basically suggested that this is part of a long-term strategy they've discussed for defeating ISIS.  However, if it didn't reduce the capability of ISIS to function within Afghanistan by more than 5%, than I'd say the overall impact from this individual attack wasn't really significant enough to receive the attention that it did. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2017 - 7:05 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by SwishSwish1234:

    You're an imbecile of the highest order mate. 


    You called him an imbecile while shaking his hand 

    3 more 
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwishSwish1234:

    You're an imbecile of the highest order mate. 


    You called him an imbecile while shaking his hand 

    3 more 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2017 - 7:08 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by zelo123:

    Beautiful Beige • 29 minutes ago

    Isis needs to be eradicated off the face of the earth. It's what the American peolple wanted. Go President Trump go. Show the whole bunch of them that you have more testicular fortitude than Obama, Bush and Clinton put together.

    Get them TRUMP!!!     



    MOAB drop ordered by US general, Trump approval not needed, officials say


    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/04/14/moab-drop-ordered-by-us-general-trump-approval-not-needed-officials-say.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by zelo123:

    Beautiful Beige • 29 minutes ago

    Isis needs to be eradicated off the face of the earth. It's what the American peolple wanted. Go President Trump go. Show the whole bunch of them that you have more testicular fortitude than Obama, Bush and Clinton put together.

    Get them TRUMP!!!     



    MOAB drop ordered by US general, Trump approval not needed, officials say


    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/04/14/moab-drop-ordered-by-us-general-trump-approval-not-needed-officials-say.html


     ZELO123 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2017 - 7:10 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by Sabanesque:

    Pres Trump gained on may levels by dropping a MOAB on an Afghan mountainside (with film from the Pentagon to show the world).

    I dod not see it at first, but in hindsight I see benefits.

    1) It did not coincide with any danger on the ground (as far as we know). It did coincide with a meeting w/Pres Xi of China. Pres Xi and all of the current Chinese leadership, are pragmatic leaders, they are engineers and businessmen. Trump is also a pragmatic businessman. Trump did gain the purchase of US coal, and a promise from China to attempt to reel in the N. Korean leadership. Now the N Koreans can see that Trump is unpredictable (as Trump deliberately tries to be--he calls it "an open box") and to allow Pres Xi a win in the negotiations as well. The ART of the deal, is that every side wins. China has a chance to be a world leader and save face w/ the US. The non nuclearized destructive warhead was and is a warning that the US can use them on N Korea, w/o the nuclear option.

    2) ISIS warriors in Afghanistan are losing morale when their normally impenetrable passageways are made vulnerable to attack. Likely these were jihadists with training and access to be in these tunnels. Very few will feel sorry for jihadists who are killers for a fascist ideology.

    3) Re: The Syrian airfield bombing: The political noise from the left about "colluson with Putin" was silenced. Even Geraldo Rivera called Trump "a friend." 

    The week for Trump was the equivalent of a 360 degree Bruce Lee defense. He did lose his base followers briefly, and will have to work more to reassure them that the US will not be fighting an on going proxy war for Israel or other entities. But for now, it was the fortunes of Trumpism in effect yet again.

    WHy did Trump again ?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabanesque:

    Pres Trump gained on may levels by dropping a MOAB on an Afghan mountainside (with film from the Pentagon to show the world).

    I dod not see it at first, but in hindsight I see benefits.

    1) It did not coincide with any danger on the ground (as far as we know). It did coincide with a meeting w/Pres Xi of China. Pres Xi and all of the current Chinese leadership, are pragmatic leaders, they are engineers and businessmen. Trump is also a pragmatic businessman. Trump did gain the purchase of US coal, and a promise from China to attempt to reel in the N. Korean leadership. Now the N Koreans can see that Trump is unpredictable (as Trump deliberately tries to be--he calls it "an open box") and to allow Pres Xi a win in the negotiations as well. The ART of the deal, is that every side wins. China has a chance to be a world leader and save face w/ the US. The non nuclearized destructive warhead was and is a warning that the US can use them on N Korea, w/o the nuclear option.

    2) ISIS warriors in Afghanistan are losing morale when their normally impenetrable passageways are made vulnerable to attack. Likely these were jihadists with training and access to be in these tunnels. Very few will feel sorry for jihadists who are killers for a fascist ideology.

    3) Re: The Syrian airfield bombing: The political noise from the left about "colluson with Putin" was silenced. Even Geraldo Rivera called Trump "a friend." 

    The week for Trump was the equivalent of a 360 degree Bruce Lee defense. He did lose his base followers briefly, and will have to work more to reassure them that the US will not be fighting an on going proxy war for Israel or other entities. But for now, it was the fortunes of Trumpism in effect yet again.

    WHy did Trump again ?
     
    Dude Please 
     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2017 - 7:11 PM ET #25

    again = gain 
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    again = gain 
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