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    Ukraine..What's the Next Step?

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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2022 - 8:41 PM ET #826

    Peace Talks Pro Tip - Avoid drinking/eating anything when sitting down to negotiate if the person you're dealing with has a track record of poisoning enemies.

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    Originally posted this in the wrong thread.

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    Peace Talks Pro Tip - Avoid drinking/eating anything when sitting down to negotiate if the person you're dealing with has a track record of poisoning enemies.

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    Originally posted this in the wrong thread.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2022 - 6:41 AM ET #827

    It took a while but even the Washington Post cannot deny that Ukrainian forces have effectively used their own civilians as human shields. This article actually shows how Ukrainian government officials lie/mislead about the realities on the ground.

    This whole conflict flipped a lot of switches in boomer brains (Midnight, Fubah, Kelly, Thirdperson, etc) where the silent propaganda meant to make them automatically side with anyone opposing Russia went into overdrive.

     

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/03/28/ukraine-kyiv-russia-civilians/

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    It took a while but even the Washington Post cannot deny that Ukrainian forces have effectively used their own civilians as human shields. This article actually shows how Ukrainian government officials lie/mislead about the realities on the ground.

    This whole conflict flipped a lot of switches in boomer brains (Midnight, Fubah, Kelly, Thirdperson, etc) where the silent propaganda meant to make them automatically side with anyone opposing Russia went into overdrive.

     

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/03/28/ukraine-kyiv-russia-civilians/

     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2022 - 6:46 AM ET #828

    Petrodollar is what props up US

    If any of the fools flying Ukraine flags understood anything, they’d recognize what a colossal blunder it was for the US to seize USD reserves held by Russia.

    Doing this means the dollar has no value, as it can be deleted with a keystroke.

    A smaller scale version of this recently happened when the US lost Afghanistan to the Taliban, and then proceeded to freeze all of the assets held there. Afghanistan is now facing the prospect of famine.

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    Petrodollar is what props up US

    If any of the fools flying Ukraine flags understood anything, they’d recognize what a colossal blunder it was for the US to seize USD reserves held by Russia.

    Doing this means the dollar has no value, as it can be deleted with a keystroke.

    A smaller scale version of this recently happened when the US lost Afghanistan to the Taliban, and then proceeded to freeze all of the assets held there. Afghanistan is now facing the prospect of famine.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2022 - 6:51 AM ET #829

    The Russian Ruble is nearing its pre-invasion value.

    Sanctions were designed to collapse its value. They failed.

    Russia got more land, a pretext to demand its gas be purchased in Rubles (after US seized their USD held in reserve), stronger China/India/Saudi alliance.

    Not the worst play in history.

     

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    The Russian Ruble is nearing its pre-invasion value.

    Sanctions were designed to collapse its value. They failed.

    Russia got more land, a pretext to demand its gas be purchased in Rubles (after US seized their USD held in reserve), stronger China/India/Saudi alliance.

    Not the worst play in history.

     

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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2022 - 1:43 PM ET #830

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    It took a while but even the Washington Post cannot deny that Ukrainian forces have effectively used their own civilians as human shields. This article actually shows how Ukrainian government officials lie/mislead about the realities on the ground. This whole conflict flipped a lot of switches in boomer brains (Midnight, Fubah, Kelly, Thirdperson, etc) where the silent propaganda meant to make them automatically side with anyone opposing Russia went into overdrive.   https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/03/28/ukraine-kyiv-russia-civilians/

    For most intelligent people it doesn't take the media telling us to figure out that the Ukrainian Army is hiding in civilian locations. Of course there are no conventional battles in the rural wheatfields, the Ukraines outgunned. So they hide in hospitals, churches, etc. hoping not to get taken out. I'd do the same thing. Then when Russian intel spots these troop locations and bomb them, they are "targeting innocent civilians"!!! 

    Still the Russians should not be there. A real mess now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    It took a while but even the Washington Post cannot deny that Ukrainian forces have effectively used their own civilians as human shields. This article actually shows how Ukrainian government officials lie/mislead about the realities on the ground. This whole conflict flipped a lot of switches in boomer brains (Midnight, Fubah, Kelly, Thirdperson, etc) where the silent propaganda meant to make them automatically side with anyone opposing Russia went into overdrive.   https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/03/28/ukraine-kyiv-russia-civilians/

    For most intelligent people it doesn't take the media telling us to figure out that the Ukrainian Army is hiding in civilian locations. Of course there are no conventional battles in the rural wheatfields, the Ukraines outgunned. So they hide in hospitals, churches, etc. hoping not to get taken out. I'd do the same thing. Then when Russian intel spots these troop locations and bomb them, they are "targeting innocent civilians"!!! 

    Still the Russians should not be there. A real mess now!

     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2022 - 1:47 PM ET #831

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @I_Need_A_Detox  Of course no country says it's OK Sparky. You have to be pretty naïve to think it doesn't happen in every war. Didn't you learn about this stuff in the 8th grade which were probably the best 4 years of your life!

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @I_Need_A_Detox  Of course no country says it's OK Sparky. You have to be pretty naïve to think it doesn't happen in every war. Didn't you learn about this stuff in the 8th grade which were probably the best 4 years of your life!

     

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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2022 - 2:55 PM ET #832

    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: @I_Need_A_Detox  Of course no country says it's OK Sparky. You have to be pretty naïve to think it doesn't happen in every war. Didn't you learn about this stuff in the 8th grade which were probably the best 4 years of your life!   Fact

    Ya think Zelensky has as knee cap bounty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: @I_Need_A_Detox  Of course no country says it's OK Sparky. You have to be pretty naïve to think it doesn't happen in every war. Didn't you learn about this stuff in the 8th grade which were probably the best 4 years of your life!   Fact

    Ya think Zelensky has as knee cap bounty?

     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2022 - 3:05 PM ET #833

    Russians units suffering heavy losses on the ground have been forced to return to Belarus and Russia to "reorganize and resupply," Britain's defense ministry said early Wednesday.

    The development demonstrates "the difficulties Russia is having reorganizing its units in forward areas within Ukraine," it said. However, the defense ministry warned that Russia would likely compensate for its reduced capability on the ground through mass artillery and missile strikes.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/live-blog/russia-ukraine-war-live-updates-russian-units-reportedly-forced-turn-n1293624

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    Russians units suffering heavy losses on the ground have been forced to return to Belarus and Russia to "reorganize and resupply," Britain's defense ministry said early Wednesday.

    The development demonstrates "the difficulties Russia is having reorganizing its units in forward areas within Ukraine," it said. However, the defense ministry warned that Russia would likely compensate for its reduced capability on the ground through mass artillery and missile strikes.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/live-blog/russia-ukraine-war-live-updates-russian-units-reportedly-forced-turn-n1293624

     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2022 - 8:41 PM ET #834

     

    The U.N. food chief warned that the war in Ukraine has created “a catastrophe on top of a catastrophe” and will have a global impact “beyond anything we’ve seen since World War II” because many of the Ukrainian farmers who produce a significant amount of the world’s wheat are now fighting Russians.

    ?Poland announced steps to end all Russian oil imports by year's end after banning coal imports earlier this week. Meanwhile, the German government said it received assurances from Russia that European companies won’t have to pay for Russian gas in rubles, a prospect that had raised fears Russia could cut them off.

    ?Over 4 million refugees have now fled Ukraine, about 10% of the population, a United Nations refugee agency says.

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    The U.N. food chief warned that the war in Ukraine has created “a catastrophe on top of a catastrophe” and will have a global impact “beyond anything we’ve seen since World War II” because many of the Ukrainian farmers who produce a significant amount of the world’s wheat are now fighting Russians.

    ?Poland announced steps to end all Russian oil imports by year's end after banning coal imports earlier this week. Meanwhile, the German government said it received assurances from Russia that European companies won’t have to pay for Russian gas in rubles, a prospect that had raised fears Russia could cut them off.

    ?Over 4 million refugees have now fled Ukraine, about 10% of the population, a United Nations refugee agency says.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2022 - 9:24 PM ET #835

    All could have been prevented....

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    All could have been prevented....

     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2022 - 9:49 PM ET #836

    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:

    All could have been prevented....

    but they voted in donnie chump anyhow  which is what caused the whole problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:

    All could have been prevented....

    but they voted in donnie chump anyhow  which is what caused the whole problem

     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2022 - 10:32 PM ET #837

    Trump caused Will Smith to slap Chris Rock too. an_roll_laugh

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    Trump caused Will Smith to slap Chris Rock too. an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2022 - 10:38 PM ET #838

    according to many republicans , joe biden is totally responsible for will smith slapping chris rock

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    according to many republicans , joe biden is totally responsible for will smith slapping chris rock

     
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    "Kamikaze" to the aid for Ukrainian forces, US has sent 100 Switchblades, aka killer drones to Ukraine in an arm package.(*1)

    "Kamikaze" by the Japanese Zero fighter planes during the wanning months of World War II has been executed by the Japanese pilots as suicidial missions. 

    *(1) https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/30/us-sends-100-killer-drones-called-switchblades-to-ukraine.html

    Oh, by the same time Donald J Trump has called on Vladimir Putin to find dirt on his opponent.(*2)

    (*2) https://www.voanews.com/a/trump-asks-putin-for-dirt-on-biden-family-in-echo-of-2016/6508516.html

     

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    "Kamikaze" to the aid for Ukrainian forces, US has sent 100 Switchblades, aka killer drones to Ukraine in an arm package.(*1)

    "Kamikaze" by the Japanese Zero fighter planes during the wanning months of World War II has been executed by the Japanese pilots as suicidial missions. 

    *(1) https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/30/us-sends-100-killer-drones-called-switchblades-to-ukraine.html

    Oh, by the same time Donald J Trump has called on Vladimir Putin to find dirt on his opponent.(*2)

    (*2) https://www.voanews.com/a/trump-asks-putin-for-dirt-on-biden-family-in-echo-of-2016/6508516.html

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 31, 2022 - 8:12 AM ET #840

    Drug overdoses hit an all-time high in the US last year. We have cartel wars raging on our broken border. Crazy levels of violent crime in US cities. Insanity in our schools. But our leaders want us to focus on a conflict thousands of miles away from our land.

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    Drug overdoses hit an all-time high in the US last year. We have cartel wars raging on our broken border. Crazy levels of violent crime in US cities. Insanity in our schools. But our leaders want us to focus on a conflict thousands of miles away from our land.

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    Posted: Mar. 31, 2022 - 8:29 AM ET #841

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    according to many republicans , joe biden is totally responsible for will smith slapping chris rock

     

    That's what I hear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    according to many republicans , joe biden is totally responsible for will smith slapping chris rock

     

    That's what I hear.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 31, 2022 - 8:57 AM ET #842

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Lt. Gen. (Ret.) Ben Hodges' assessment that Russian military will stop to attack Ukraine within 10 days because the Russian military does not have the three elements: time, manpower and ammunition.   https://www.msnbc.com/mtp-daily/watch/lt-gen-ben-hodges-russia-going-to-culminate-within-the-next-10-days-135330373657

    You posted this March 14th 

    Why was Ben Hodges so wrong … and why did you believe him? 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Lt. Gen. (Ret.) Ben Hodges' assessment that Russian military will stop to attack Ukraine within 10 days because the Russian military does not have the three elements: time, manpower and ammunition.   https://www.msnbc.com/mtp-daily/watch/lt-gen-ben-hodges-russia-going-to-culminate-within-the-next-10-days-135330373657

    You posted this March 14th 

    Why was Ben Hodges so wrong … and why did you believe him? 

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos: All could have been prevented.... but they voted in donnie chump anyhow  which is what caused the whole problem

     

    Weird, most people knew this invasion would happen back when Obama was in office. Oh wait, it's Trumps fault. The only reasoning the brainwashed left has as an argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos: All could have been prevented.... but they voted in donnie chump anyhow  which is what caused the whole problem

     

    Weird, most people knew this invasion would happen back when Obama was in office. Oh wait, it's Trumps fault. The only reasoning the brainwashed left has as an argument.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    The U.N. food chief warned that the war in Ukraine has created “a catastrophe on top of a catastrophe” and will have a global impact “beyond anything we’ve seen since World War II” because many of the Ukrainian farmers who produce a significant amount of the world’s wheat are now fighting Russians.

    even if putins war (supported and cheered by many on the GOP ) was to end next week , this will still have a very significant impact

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    The U.N. food chief warned that the war in Ukraine has created “a catastrophe on top of a catastrophe” and will have a global impact “beyond anything we’ve seen since World War II” because many of the Ukrainian farmers who produce a significant amount of the world’s wheat are now fighting Russians.

    even if putins war (supported and cheered by many on the GOP ) was to end next week , this will still have a very significant impact

     
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    FAKE ruble?

    London (CNN Business)
    The barrage of sanctions imposed by the West (led by Joe Biden)
    following Russia's invasion of Ukraine decimated the Russian ruble.
    But one month after the tanks rolled, the currency has made a full
    recovery and is now trading at levels seen prior to the war.

    an_light How is that possible?
    Russia's central bank has taken dramatic steps in recent weeks to
    intervene in the market, implementing policies to prevent investors
    and companies from selling the currency and other measures that
    force them to buy it.

    What has Moscow done to "artificially" boost the falling ruble?

    • The central bank has more than doubled interest rates to 20%. That encourages Russian savers to keep their money in local currency.
    • Exporters have been ordered to swap 80% of their foreign currency revenues for rubles rather than holding onto US dollars or euros.
    • Russian brokers have been banned from selling securities held by foreigners.
    • Residents are not allowed to make bank transfers outside Russia.
    • Russia has threatened to demand payment for natural gas in rubles, not euros or dollars.

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    FAKE ruble?

    London (CNN Business)
    The barrage of sanctions imposed by the West (led by Joe Biden)
    following Russia's invasion of Ukraine decimated the Russian ruble.
    But one month after the tanks rolled, the currency has made a full
    recovery and is now trading at levels seen prior to the war.

    an_light How is that possible?
    Russia's central bank has taken dramatic steps in recent weeks to
    intervene in the market, implementing policies to prevent investors
    and companies from selling the currency and other measures that
    force them to buy it.

    What has Moscow done to "artificially" boost the falling ruble?

    • The central bank has more than doubled interest rates to 20%. That encourages Russian savers to keep their money in local currency.
    • Exporters have been ordered to swap 80% of their foreign currency revenues for rubles rather than holding onto US dollars or euros.
    • Russian brokers have been banned from selling securities held by foreigners.
    • Residents are not allowed to make bank transfers outside Russia.
    • Russia has threatened to demand payment for natural gas in rubles, not euros or dollars.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 31, 2022 - 6:43 PM ET #846

    Russian soldiers lay dead in the streets of Ukraine with little or no attempt by Russia to recover their bodies.

    That is insanely sad for their families.

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    Russian soldiers lay dead in the streets of Ukraine with little or no attempt by Russia to recover their bodies.

    That is insanely sad for their families.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Russian soldiers lay dead in the streets of Ukraine with little or no attempt by Russia to recover their bodies. That is insanely sad for their families.

    The Daily Beast:
    Russia’s Vladimir Putin is calling up another 134,500 conscripts even as more and more of his own soldiers appear to be turning on him over humiliating losses in Ukraine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Russian soldiers lay dead in the streets of Ukraine with little or no attempt by Russia to recover their bodies. That is insanely sad for their families.

    The Daily Beast:
    Russia’s Vladimir Putin is calling up another 134,500 conscripts even as more and more of his own soldiers appear to be turning on him over humiliating losses in Ukraine.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 31, 2022 - 7:35 PM ET #848

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Russian soldiers lay dead in the streets of Ukraine with little or no attempt by Russia to recover their bodies. That is insanely sad for their families.

     

    Source(s)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Russian soldiers lay dead in the streets of Ukraine with little or no attempt by Russia to recover their bodies. That is insanely sad for their families.

     

    Source(s)?

     
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     Homey don't play dat!

    Do a simple search & you will find multiple news sources with pictures of the dead Russian soldiers. Not a pretty sight.

     

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     Homey don't play dat!

    Do a simple search & you will find multiple news sources with pictures of the dead Russian soldiers. Not a pretty sight.

     

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Russian soldiers lay dead in the streets of Ukraine with little or no attempt by Russia to recover their bodies. That is insanely sad for their families. The Daily Beast:Russia’s Vladimir Putin is calling up another 134,500 conscripts even as more and more of his own soldiers appear to be turning on him over humiliating losses in Ukraine.

    Why does he feel he needs to throw another 134,000 bodies into his illegal assault on Ukraine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Russian soldiers lay dead in the streets of Ukraine with little or no attempt by Russia to recover their bodies. That is insanely sad for their families. The Daily Beast:Russia’s Vladimir Putin is calling up another 134,500 conscripts even as more and more of his own soldiers appear to be turning on him over humiliating losses in Ukraine.

    Why does he feel he needs to throw another 134,000 bodies into his illegal assault on Ukraine?

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