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drJ

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Posted: May. 11, 2011 - 2:55 PM ET #26

Quote Originally Posted by cashin:

You poor, poor repubs - can't produce any candidates worth a damn so you have to go after this kinda BS. Just like when you couldn't stand Clinton's popularity & him gettin credit for the good economic times & had to go after him on sex stuff after everything else failed.

Sad shit & must be frustrating as hell for you guys. Get ready to keep bitchin about Obama for another 6 yrs

kind of insane like fire melting steel....you cant go after the birthers cashin when you're a truther. the birthers have as much "evidence" as you posted in truther thread. i dont read either side of the stuff.

i am not trying to be an asshole, it just seems like these issues wrangle in some odd folks.

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Posted: May. 11, 2011 - 3:07 PM ET #27

Quote Originally Posted by drJ:

i am not trying to be an asshole, it just seems like these issues wrangle in some odd folks.

doc - I've seen no real evidence in the case of the birthers & neither has any court evidently. The 911 issue is a completely different story -

If you have any real or ducumented evidence that he was not born in Hawaii or that his birth cert is a fake or doctored, let's hear it

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Posted: May. 11, 2011 - 3:12 PM ET #28

Quote Originally Posted by ApacheM:

I'd like to stand toe to toe with your sinevelly ass and have your refer to ANY of the birthers if they are Veterans (and many are) wanting a military person harmed in any way. You've got a real attitude toward the military you a-hole and are a sad excuse for a Linesman. The DEM.'s never have an answer, except 'it's Bush's fault'. I doubt you were in the cub scouts, just like your illustrious leader BO.

I notice you didn't exactly say that you are glad Osama is dead and no military members were harmed at the expense of Obama being reelected.

I wonder why you didn't.

Then again, like I said in another thread, military heroes I know could not care less about birth certificates. They are worried about jobs, health insurance, and the economy.

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Posted: May. 11, 2011 - 3:15 PM ET #29

Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

The House of Reps is not a court of law. Please show me what court of law found that Clinton was proven to have committed perjury.

That depends on what your definition of proven is.

drJ

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Posted: May. 11, 2011 - 3:20 PM ET #30

Quote Originally Posted by cashin:

doc - I've seen no real evidence in the case of the birthers & neither has any court evidently. The 911 issue is a completely different story -

If you have any real or ducumented evidence that he was not born in Hawaii or that his birth cert is a fake or doctored, let's hear it

i am not a birther and wont go searching through their archives......read their stuff if you want to....

i find my analogy between the two to be very apropos.

i am curious if others feel the same.

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Posted: May. 11, 2011 - 3:31 PM ET #31

[Quote: Originally Posted by djbrow]

I notice you didn't exactly say that you are glad Osama is dead and no military members were harmed at the expense of Obama being reelected.

I wonder why you didn't.

Then again, like I said in another thread, military heroes I know could not care less about birth certificates. They are worried about jobs, health insurance, and the economy. [/Quote]The heroes I know are all the guys I served with many years ago (65-67) and most are retired or are about to be. Also, I would not have ONE of our Military with as little as a flesh wound if it resulted in BHO relection. I simply wonder why this POTUS has SOOOO many secrets. I'd be asking the same question if a Repub. was POTUS. Why will NO ONE come forward if they ever knew BO????? You would think they would be happy to wheather they liked him or not. NOT A SOUL.....WTF

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Posted: May. 11, 2011 - 3:36 PM ET #32

At this point in my life the Government has very little to offer or take from me. However, I am concerned about the youth of this great country and the country's future.

Term limits, Reps and Sens pay SS, all laws past include them, pay your own Ins. and NO retirement. Live like the rest of Americans do...ie.GET A JOB...

ApacheM

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Posted: May. 11, 2011 - 3:41 PM ET #33

Quote Originally Posted by kujayhwk:

Wag the Dog...part 1 I and me, he's good at that. I wouldn't trust him with a BB gun.

Wag the Dog...part 2....for all you Texans out there....BHO couldn't ride Trigger at Wal-Mart

And finally.............US SEALS, Mission accomplished. Oh,BTW,BO were you watchin????

Now the truth surfaces.

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Posted: May. 11, 2011 - 4:00 PM ET #34

Quote Originally Posted by ApacheM:

At this point in my life the Government has very little to offer or take from me. However, I am concerned about the youth of this great country and the country's future.

Term limits, Reps and Sens pay SS, all laws past include them, pay your own Ins. and NO retirement. Live like the rest of Americans do...ie.GET A JOB...

term limits

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Posted: May. 11, 2011 - 4:03 PM ET #35

Quote Originally Posted by ApacheM:

Now the truth surfaces.

I know that BHO finally getting OBL sticks in the craw of you righties like a 6 pound ham bone.

The only cheer that arises from your pathetic mouths is when Obama fails at something...no matter the price to our country.

American Patriots in name only.

ApacheM

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Posted: May. 11, 2011 - 4:26 PM ET #36

Quote Originally Posted by kujayhwk:

I know that BHO finally getting OBL sticks in the craw of you righties like a 6 pound ham bone.

The only cheer that arises from your pathetic mouths is when Obama fails at something...no matter the price to our country.

American Patriots in name only.

I don't care who got OBL, I just glad he's history. As far as cheering for BHO, I never have. He hasn't done anything to help this country and has failed at most all his promises to the people of America Dem.s and Repub's alike. Pls name something he promised that he has fulfilled.

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Posted: May. 11, 2011 - 4:30 PM ET #37

Quote Originally Posted by kujayhwk:

I know that BHO finally getting OBL sticks in the craw of you righties like a 6 pound ham bone.

The only cheer that arises from your pathetic mouths is when Obama fails at something...no matter the price to our country.

American Patriots in name only.

" Dissent is the highest form of Patriotism"

kujayhwk

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Posted: May. 11, 2011 - 4:35 PM ET #38

Quote Originally Posted by be easy:

" Dissent is the highest form of Patriotism"

There's a difference between dissent and pathological hatred for the man.

The pathological side is mostly on display in this forum.

be easy

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Posted: May. 11, 2011 - 4:50 PM ET #39

Quote Originally Posted by kujayhwk:

There's a difference between dissent and pathological hatred for the man.

The pathological side is mostly on display in this forum.

how do you differentiate between the left and their hate for the right, and the right and their hate for the left?

from where i'm sitting, it's one big fat negative feedback loop from hell.

a bunch of confused folk, cheering on their favorite team, no matter the score.

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Posted: May. 11, 2011 - 4:51 PM ET #40

Quote Originally Posted by kujayhwk:

There's a difference between dissent and pathological hatred for the man.

The pathological side is mostly on display in this forum.

It stems from the inability to think for oneself. The people you are responding to are only capable of parroting hatred. They can't articulate specific reasons for their hatred.

Very much like the KKK in the 50s. Hmmm, interesting corollary.

be easy

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Posted: May. 11, 2011 - 4:59 PM ET #41

Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

It stems from the inability to think for oneself. The people you are responding to are only capable of parroting hatred. They can't articulate specific reasons for their hatred.

Very much like the KKK in the 50s. Hmmm, interesting corollary.

Interesting. So,

The left = think for themselves
The right = can't think for themselves

i guess it's by pure randomness that all you lefties think exactly alike

hey, at least you are taking an objective stance and not being hypocritical

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Posted: May. 11, 2011 - 5:02 PM ET #42

Quote Originally Posted by be easy:

Interesting. So,

The left = think for themselves
The right = can't think for themselves

i guess it's by pure randomness that all you lefties think exactly alike

hey, at least you are taking an objective stance and not being hypocritical

djbrow

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Posted: May. 11, 2011 - 5:02 PM ET #43

Quote Originally Posted by be easy:

how do you differentiate between the left and their hate for the right, and the right and their hate for the left?

from where i'm sitting, it's one big fat negative feedback loop from hell.

a bunch of confused folk, cheering on their favorite team, no matter the score.

This would have a whole lot more substance to it if the author ever commented about the right's hate.

But when one solely attacks the left and is silent on the other side, you lose the ability to come across as objective.

djbrow

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Posted: May. 11, 2011 - 5:09 PM ET #44

Quote Originally Posted by be easy:

Interesting. So,

The left = think for themselves
The right = can't think for themselves

i guess it's by pure randomness that all you lefties think exactly alike

hey, at least you are taking an objective stance and not being hypocritical

I have criticized the left on many occassions and have consistently defended Bush. You need to ask the Heritage Foundation or KOAJ how you should think.

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Posted: May. 11, 2011 - 5:09 PM ET #45

Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

This would have a whole lot more substance to it if the author ever commented about the right's hate.

But when one solely attacks the left and is silent on the other side, you lose the ability to come across as objective.

are you serious with this?

I just happen to have the common sense parlayed with the lack of time to ignore the people that i've come to learn, have nothing to share be it ideas or opinions. However, there are some others that i have held higher expectations of. I guess that is my fault, setting myself up to get disappointed

carry on,,,,,,,,

wait a minute, just to be clear, you are of the opinion that I "solely attack the left and am silent towards the other side?"

do you read all of my posts?

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Posted: May. 11, 2011 - 5:11 PM ET #46

Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

I have criticized the left on many occassions and have consistently defended Bush. You need to ask the Heritage Foundation or KOAJ how you should think.

you continually prove my point

drJ

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Posted: May. 11, 2011 - 5:18 PM ET #47

Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

This would have a whole lot more substance to it if the author ever commented about the right's hate.

But when one solely attacks the left and is silent on the other side, you lose the ability to come across as objective.

i have seen him bash righties plenty(esp the cut/paste flavor) theres a few of the left that jump on them pretty quick though so maybe fear of piling on could be part of why. also, why engage an ideologue? there are some closer to your belief system i just wont talk to. consider his post a sign of respect in a strange way.

not trying to fight with you but be easy is closer to an equal opportunity basher than you give him credit for at least by my analysis.

KU....here i'll say it. i am happy that our president had the courage and fortitude to play his part in wasting OBL. cheers to him, go spike that football, you earned it. there are many issues revolving around this i could bring up, but not relevant to what you wanted and i delivered.

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Posted: May. 11, 2011 - 7:06 PM ET #48

Quote Originally Posted by ApacheM:

“The problem with this 'new' birth certificate is that it's, well....new. It lists his birthday as August 4, 1961, then lists his father's native country as Kenya.

"The problem with that is Kenya didn't exist until 1963; it was British East Africa or East Africa Protectorate until then."

It actually says Kenya, EAST AFRICA on the certificate.

So your first point is wrong.

" It also lists the hospital of his birth as Kapi'olani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital, which didn't exist until 1978. "

The name Kapi'olani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital was used by this facility since 1931. The original hospital was opened in 1890 as Kapi‘olani Maternity Home. It changed its name to Kapi‘olani Medical Center for Women & Children in 1978.

So your second point is invalid to anyone that can read.

Prior to that time it was Kauaikeolani Children's Hospital. It is also dated April 25, 2011, with Dr. Alvin T. Onaka signing to the stamp of "I certify this is a true copy or abstract of the record on file in the Hawaii Department of State Health".

The two hospitals merged in to become the aforementioned Kapi‘olani Medical Center for Women & Children.

Here is a link for the above info:

https://www.kapiolani.org/women-and-children/about-us/default.aspx