To recap: Trump asked Comey for loyalty; asked him to drop the Flynn probe; fired Comey; pressured Sessions not to recuse; pressured Sessions to fire McCabe; pressured Coats, Rogers, Pompeo & multiple congressmen to say he wasn’t under FBI investigation; and tried to fire Mueller.
And now tonight we find out the first reason he offered to fire Mueller was because of a dispute years ago over the fees at the Trump National Golf Club.
Yes overpriced greens fees...!!!!
No wonder the entire White House Consel threatened to quit!!!
I’m sure it’s all a “Nothingburger” though!!
To remove first post, remove entire topic.
To recap: Trump asked Comey for loyalty; asked him to drop the Flynn probe; fired Comey; pressured Sessions not to recuse; pressured Sessions to fire McCabe; pressured Coats, Rogers, Pompeo & multiple congressmen to say he wasn’t under FBI investigation; and tried to fire Mueller.
And now tonight we find out the first reason he offered to fire Mueller was because of a dispute years ago over the fees at the Trump National Golf Club.
Yes overpriced greens fees...!!!!
No wonder the entire White House Consel threatened to quit!!!
An allegation that Mueller and Trump National Golf Club in Northern
Virginia had a dispute over membership fees when Mueller resigned as a
member in 2011, two White House advisers said. A spokesman for Mueller
said there was no dispute when Mueller, who was FBI director at the
time, left the club.
This was reported and refuted by the Washington Post....
An allegation that Mueller and Trump National Golf Club in Northern
Virginia had a dispute over membership fees when Mueller resigned as a
member in 2011, two White House advisers said. A spokesman for Mueller
said there was no dispute when Mueller, who was FBI director at the
time, left the club.
This was reported and refuted by the Washington Post....
Don’t you love how the batshi* crazy right wing quotes the WP and NY “Slimes” when it suits them? But otherwise it’s crap?!?
So here’s how Sarasota refutes a point about Russian collusion (something he has denied existed a BILLION TIMES):
He QUOTES AN article about how Trump’s lawyers are deflecting from the Russian collusion! And that’s IN THE TITLE! If that’s not getting off on the wrong foot I don’t know what is!
And he thinks that DEFENDS his point because it allegedly refuted the golf fee dispute.
Worse, MUELLER’s reps denied there was a dispute. OF COURSE they would. It was Trump’s first reason to dismiss him.
This of COURSE does not prevent Trump from raising any and all red flags to dismiss him, lie or otherwise. Your bold statement DEBUNKS the fact TRUMP could use it as justification that Mueller harbors animosity against him? It doesn’t of course.
(At this point Sarasota is lost and understands nothing of what I wrote and Hugh and Intense will support the “debunking” even further because well...it’s Scal saying it!).
Then he has enablers (Hugh and intense) who just follow suit with support to strengthen the echo chamber they infinitely reside in.
Folks read the posts above from start to finish.
If it weren’t so incredibly dense and sad it would be hilarious.
I can’t even. I really can’t....it’s too much. Read it for yourself!
Ah yes, dismiss the ENTIRE first paragraph. LOL.
Ok now the rest...
Don’t you love how the batshi* crazy right wing quotes the WP and NY “Slimes” when it suits them? But otherwise it’s crap?!?
So here’s how Sarasota refutes a point about Russian collusion (something he has denied existed a BILLION TIMES):
He QUOTES AN article about how Trump’s lawyers are deflecting from the Russian collusion! And that’s IN THE TITLE! If that’s not getting off on the wrong foot I don’t know what is!
And he thinks that DEFENDS his point because it allegedly refuted the golf fee dispute.
Worse, MUELLER’s reps denied there was a dispute. OF COURSE they would. It was Trump’s first reason to dismiss him.
This of COURSE does not prevent Trump from raising any and all red flags to dismiss him, lie or otherwise. Your bold statement DEBUNKS the fact TRUMP could use it as justification that Mueller harbors animosity against him? It doesn’t of course.
(At this point Sarasota is lost and understands nothing of what I wrote and Hugh and Intense will support the “debunking” even further because well...it’s Scal saying it!).
Then he has enablers (Hugh and intense) who just follow suit with support to strengthen the echo chamber they infinitely reside in.
Folks read the posts above from start to finish.
If it weren’t so incredibly dense and sad it would be hilarious.
I can’t even. I really can’t....it’s too much. Read it for yourself!
Did not refute the point about Russian collusion....Though it has not been proven yet..
Only posted to the thread topic in the title....
[Politics] Topic: Trump wanted to fire Mueller over an overpriced Country Club membership
Scalabrine, I see you are going out swinging ...but no need to swing at me personally.. it only makes the point you are trying to make weak and lacking merit...
Did not refute the point about Russian collusion....Though it has not been proven yet..
Only posted to the thread topic in the title....
[Politics] Topic: Trump wanted to fire Mueller over an overpriced Country Club membership
Scalabrine, I see you are going out swinging ...but no need to swing at me personally.. it only makes the point you are trying to make weak and lacking merit...
Ok I’ll make it easy for in one sentence you since you are not addressing it even though it has spelled out clearly:
You believe that MUELLER’s Reps saying publicly there was no dispute (which I accept as true) DISPROVES Trump could say a dispute DID occur and should be a reason Mueller is dismissed....
Yes or No?
Ok I’ll make it easy for in one sentence you since you are not addressing it even though it has spelled out clearly:
You believe that MUELLER’s Reps saying publicly there was no dispute (which I accept as true) DISPROVES Trump could say a dispute DID occur and should be a reason Mueller is dismissed....
As far as your assertion.. that I denied Russian collusion existed a BILLION TIMES..You are again telling an out and out untruth. I have never posted that Russian collusion existed or didn't exist... How could I know ........when a Special Counsel and a team of 17 top shelf lawyers,, who have been investigation the allegations for 6 months have not proven anything ..yet.
Till there's more proof.. I have not taken a position ..one way or the other.. ..
One thing fo shizzle... a report from the New York Times,citing four anonymous people told of the matter ....does not give me much comfort in their journalistic ability..
If, their source is these four unnamed people,, who were told about it ,,who then told of the matter to the Times ...way too much hearsay and 3rd hand accounts for me to believe the accuracy of the report...you believe what you want.....It's in the New York Times, so it must be true!...right ?
I will say this..... I for one will miss you come Feb 4th..you seem to have so much potential...
As far as your assertion.. that I denied Russian collusion existed a BILLION TIMES..You are again telling an out and out untruth. I have never posted that Russian collusion existed or didn't exist... How could I know ........when a Special Counsel and a team of 17 top shelf lawyers,, who have been investigation the allegations for 6 months have not proven anything ..yet.
Till there's more proof.. I have not taken a position ..one way or the other.. ..
One thing fo shizzle... a report from the New York Times,citing four anonymous people told of the matter ....does not give me much comfort in their journalistic ability..
If, their source is these four unnamed people,, who were told about it ,,who then told of the matter to the Times ...way too much hearsay and 3rd hand accounts for me to believe the accuracy of the report...you believe what you want.....It's in the New York Times, so it must be true!...right ?
I will say this..... I for one will miss you come Feb 4th..you seem to have so much potential...
Scalabrine is right. Trump has a legal history of malicious and vindictive behavior. He should be concerned about Mueller's investigation which has already resulted in four indictments of Trump insiders. So far, Trump and supporters have desperately been trying to discredit Mueller's investigation. But any attempt to remove special counsel would be a gross abuse of power and further evidence of obstruction of justice. Complex investigation is likely to continue for months.
Scalabrine is right. Trump has a legal history of malicious and vindictive behavior. He should be concerned about Mueller's investigation which has already resulted in four indictments of Trump insiders. So far, Trump and supporters have desperately been trying to discredit Mueller's investigation. But any attempt to remove special counsel would be a gross abuse of power and further evidence of obstruction of justice. Complex investigation is likely to continue for months.
Ok Sarasota, don’t answer one simple question. One which you said DEBUNKED my thread and did nothing of the sort. Because what you quoted in bold in your post does not debunk anything Trump could say.
I love how now the core all all investigative journalism, sources, most of the time anonymous, areALL now called into question. Of COURSE they are when the sources are damaging to their president.
And these are the very same people who go on and on about Hillary’s emails still till this day with not a thing proven about them. But just the suggestion of something untoward is enough for them in that case.
Comey comes out with the letter? We love Comey.
Comey takes notes on his conversations with Trump? Leaked and liar.
I can’t. I just can’t do it. Third person. Well said. There is no arguing with minions and people with no standards.
Look, this is the PARTY of FAMILY VALUES and Roy Moore fell a mere 22k votes of winning an election. You CANNOT make it up.
Time to deny the Stormy Daniels allegations guys! Lol. Hurry!
Ok Sarasota, don’t answer one simple question. One which you said DEBUNKED my thread and did nothing of the sort. Because what you quoted in bold in your post does not debunk anything Trump could say.
I love how now the core all all investigative journalism, sources, most of the time anonymous, areALL now called into question. Of COURSE they are when the sources are damaging to their president.
And these are the very same people who go on and on about Hillary’s emails still till this day with not a thing proven about them. But just the suggestion of something untoward is enough for them in that case.
Comey comes out with the letter? We love Comey.
Comey takes notes on his conversations with Trump? Leaked and liar.
I can’t. I just can’t do it. Third person. Well said. There is no arguing with minions and people with no standards.
Look, this is the PARTY of FAMILY VALUES and Roy Moore fell a mere 22k votes of winning an election. You CANNOT make it up.
Time to deny the Stormy Daniels allegations guys! Lol. Hurry!
How many times does someone like Scalabrine have to be wrong before they start to question their sources?
10?
20?
50?
100?
1000?
10000?
Why wouldn't DJT want to fire Mueller..especially STRONGLY considering his own DEMEANOR and self glorified persona......TOTALLY expected.....
Actually, I feel Mueller is one of the very few FBI officials(even former) that DJT respects.....COMEY not so much....If anything...DJT was RIGHT to Fire the very CORRUPT COMEY!!!
Yes SCAL..this is an absolute "Nothing Burger".. just another MSM diversion to an EXTREMELY successful voyage to DAVOS... Where many GLOBAL FINANCIAL Leaders see the benefit of a REAL POTUS leadership.
.
Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:
How many times does someone like Scalabrine have to be wrong before they start to question their sources?
10?
20?
50?
100?
1000?
10000?
Why wouldn't DJT want to fire Mueller..especially STRONGLY considering his own DEMEANOR and self glorified persona......TOTALLY expected.....
Actually, I feel Mueller is one of the very few FBI officials(even former) that DJT respects.....COMEY not so much....If anything...DJT was RIGHT to Fire the very CORRUPT COMEY!!!
Yes SCAL..this is an absolute "Nothing Burger".. just another MSM diversion to an EXTREMELY successful voyage to DAVOS... Where many GLOBAL FINANCIAL Leaders see the benefit of a REAL POTUS leadership.
Now you come in and make an even bigger fool of yourself as I’m grilling Slim to answer ONE question, and that question is about disproving my thread title.
Now how exactly has my OP been debunked????
I can’t tell you how embarrassing it is for anyone left of center to share the country with people who think like you and Slim and Crusher and Intense.
We are literally ASHAMED of you.
I have gone to foreign countries and have had to profusely explain I’m not of the same kind of people EXACLTLY alike yourself and Slim. And I did it while blushing.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE expect more of yourself. You the President his entire administration and a large majority of the Right are doing so much damage to the country just parroting the things you type here that it will be irreversible.
PLEASE set a higher bar for yourself in terms of decency, intellect and general conduct. I beg you!
Detox,
Now you come in and make an even bigger fool of yourself as I’m grilling Slim to answer ONE question, and that question is about disproving my thread title.
Now how exactly has my OP been debunked????
I can’t tell you how embarrassing it is for anyone left of center to share the country with people who think like you and Slim and Crusher and Intense.
We are literally ASHAMED of you.
I have gone to foreign countries and have had to profusely explain I’m not of the same kind of people EXACLTLY alike yourself and Slim. And I did it while blushing.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE expect more of yourself. You the President his entire administration and a large majority of the Right are doing so much damage to the country just parroting the things you type here that it will be irreversible.
PLEASE set a higher bar for yourself in terms of decency, intellect and general conduct. I beg you!
I mean anyone reading this, look at what is being written here.
DO NOT THINK OR ACT LIKE THEM.
They literally can’t even formulate the most basic argumentation or comprehend a simple OP.
Don’t let your life go down this path. You don’t have a billion dollars like trump to bail you out of the gutter you’ll soon be in if you do. It’s just a warning. Take it or leave it.
I mean anyone reading this, look at what is being written here.
DO NOT THINK OR ACT LIKE THEM.
They literally can’t even formulate the most basic argumentation or comprehend a simple OP.
Don’t let your life go down this path. You don’t have a billion dollars like trump to bail you out of the gutter you’ll soon be in if you do. It’s just a warning. Take it or leave it.
FACT: the OP starts a thread with a title that is blatantly false news
FACT: the OP gets called out on it
FACT: the OP goes into deflection mode (again)
FACT: the OP is down to his final 9 days on this site if he is a man of his word.
PS; Wally, if you read this I want you to know I have not forgotten our conversation. Soon we will find out a lot about some peoples character, which always rests in their actions, not in empty promises.
bigreds daddy
FACT: the OP starts a thread with a title that is blatantly false news
FACT: the OP gets called out on it
FACT: the OP goes into deflection mode (again)
FACT: the OP is down to his final 9 days on this site if he is a man of his word.
PS; Wally, if you read this I want you to know I have not forgotten our conversation. Soon we will find out a lot about some peoples character, which always rests in their actions, not in empty promises.
President Trump was asked directly today about The New York Times’ story and denied reports that he ordered the firing of
Special Counsel Robert Mueller in June and only backed down after his
White House counsel refused to carry out the instruction and threatened
to resign...........so that's enough for me to shoot down this fake story from unnamed sources.
Unless you have some sort of memo ,tape recording or citation to verify the claim..
It must be nice to know ,that you are sitting on death row with an execution date..so that you can come into this forum and call out people by name and attack them ..just like you were in the PBox ...and not get an kind admonishment from the mods...
Here's to ya !
Scalabrine,
President Trump was asked directly today about The New York Times’ story and denied reports that he ordered the firing of
Special Counsel Robert Mueller in June and only backed down after his
White House counsel refused to carry out the instruction and threatened
to resign...........so that's enough for me to shoot down this fake story from unnamed sources.
Unless you have some sort of memo ,tape recording or citation to verify the claim..
It must be nice to know ,that you are sitting on death row with an execution date..so that you can come into this forum and call out people by name and attack them ..just like you were in the PBox ...and not get an kind admonishment from the mods...
"ASHAMED of you.I have gone to foreign countries and have had to profusely explain I’m not of the same kind of people EXACLTLY alike yourself and Slim. And I did it while blushing."
I'm so glad you decided to stay! Welcome back kotter.
"ASHAMED of you.I have gone to foreign countries and have had to profusely explain I’m not of the same kind of people EXACLTLY alike yourself and Slim. And I did it while blushing."
I'm so glad you decided to stay! Welcome back kotter.
It must be nice to know ,that you are sitting on death row with an execution date..so that you can come into this forum and call out people by name and attack them ..just like you were in the PBox ...and not get an kind admonishment from the mods...
Here's to ya !
Slim, as acting Governor I have granted scal a stay of execution.
It came with some stipulations which he agreed to.
Thus, our verbose friend will be with us for the foreseeable future.
Should you have any interest in how we came to this new development, it is within scal's thread in the NFL forum.
bigreds daddy
Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:
Scalabrine,
It must be nice to know ,that you are sitting on death row with an execution date..so that you can come into this forum and call out people by name and attack them ..just like you were in the PBox ...and not get an kind admonishment from the mods...
Here's to ya !
Slim, as acting Governor I have granted scal a stay of execution.
It came with some stipulations which he agreed to.
Thus, our verbose friend will be with us for the foreseeable future.
Should you have any interest in how we came to this new development, it is within scal's thread in the NFL forum.
Slim, as acting Governor I have granted scal a stay of execution.
It came with some stipulations which he agreed to.
Thus, our verbose friend will be with us for the foreseeable future.
Should you have any interest in how we came to this new development, it is within scal's thread in the NFL forum.
Hugh_Jorgan,,,The way I see it it was an agreement between you two..so be it,,,but you can not negotiate away,what he said he would do...he gave his word ,that he would leave, if he lost ... more than once..
Quoting one of our past Presidents... “Don’t tell me words don’t matter,”...
If, Scalabrine has no honor and you cannot believe the words he posts,then if he is still posting after the SB .. he is dead to me ....
Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:
Slim, as acting Governor I have granted scal a stay of execution.
It came with some stipulations which he agreed to.
Thus, our verbose friend will be with us for the foreseeable future.
Should you have any interest in how we came to this new development, it is within scal's thread in the NFL forum.
Hugh_Jorgan,,,The way I see it it was an agreement between you two..so be it,,,but you can not negotiate away,what he said he would do...he gave his word ,that he would leave, if he lost ... more than once..
Quoting one of our past Presidents... “Don’t tell me words don’t matter,”...
If, Scalabrine has no honor and you cannot believe the words he posts,then if he is still posting after the SB .. he is dead to me ....
You're not allowed to express dissatisfaction when a federal agency allegedly colludes with the previous administration and an establishment candidate to rob you of an election using unverified evidence from Russian officials.
It is also frowned upon to have a problem with a kangaroo-court witch hunt launched to push the invented narrative.
Next
(Sometimes i start to wonder if I'm a bad person, when I get pleasure from embarrasing fools on the left. But then I realize its this kind of attitude that keeps me and other likeminded folk winning all the time)
Future leaders of the free world take note;
You're not allowed to express dissatisfaction when a federal agency allegedly colludes with the previous administration and an establishment candidate to rob you of an election using unverified evidence from Russian officials.
It is also frowned upon to have a problem with a kangaroo-court witch hunt launched to push the invented narrative.
Next
(Sometimes i start to wonder if I'm a bad person, when I get pleasure from embarrasing fools on the left. But then I realize its this kind of attitude that keeps me and other likeminded folk winning all the time)
One of Scal’s weirder moments in the political forum. Talk about a discombobulated thread by the OP and title.
You have that right 165yrds ...The OP claiming President tried to
fire Meuller ...President Trump can not fire Mueller.. the one that
appointed him Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein is the only one
that can fire Special Counsel Mueller
President Trump can not simply fire off a termination letter,as he did with FBI Director Comey...and have him fired..
According to those regulations,
a special counsel “may be disciplined or removed from office only by
the personal action of the Attorney General” (or in this case, the
acting attorney general) Rosenstein and he alone exercises firing authority...
Back in June ( same time as the NYTimes annomyous report) in a Senate hearing Rosenstein said that he had not seen any evidence of good cause for firing Mueller....
Quote Originally Posted by 165yds:
One of Scal’s weirder moments in the political forum. Talk about a discombobulated thread by the OP and title.
You have that right 165yrds ...The OP claiming President tried to
fire Meuller ...President Trump can not fire Mueller.. the one that
appointed him Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein is the only one
that can fire Special Counsel Mueller
President Trump can not simply fire off a termination letter,as he did with FBI Director Comey...and have him fired..
According to those regulations,
a special counsel “may be disciplined or removed from office only by
the personal action of the Attorney General” (or in this case, the
acting attorney general) Rosenstein and he alone exercises firing authority...
Back in June ( same time as the NYTimes annomyous report) in a Senate hearing Rosenstein said that he had not seen any evidence of good cause for firing Mueller....
Ah yes, dismiss the ENTIRE first paragraph. LOL. 
I can’t
..COMEY not so much....If anything...DJT was RIGHT to Fire the very CORRUPT COMEY!!!
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