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    Trump to be impeached odds...

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    alangrrbs
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    Posted: May. 17, 2017 - 1:35 AM ET #1

    I'm posting this as purely a betting thread...can't wait for the political opinion to eventually make it's way into here, and watch the emotions explode...

    Odds on Trump to be Prez on 1-1-18 have changed drastically. I've watched them change drastically just over the last hour.  Right now the odds are:

    NO +220
    YES -300

    The knee jerk reaction is to jump on NO because people think impeachment is coming.  Impeachment isn't kicking a President out.  Impeachment is just putting a President on trial.  It's reeeeeeally hard to kick a President out.  Nixon actually resigned.  He wasn't kicked out.  It takes the House of Representatives to file charges, and then 67 votes in the Senate for the final vote.  With both the House and the Senate being controlled by Republicans, I don't see them voting for impeachment.  The White House will deny, deny, deny, and this process will take forever.  Even if he does get impeached and kicked out, it won't be before 1-1-18.

    The other thing to take in to considerations is this.  If the Dems are playing this game didbolically, they won't push for impeachment right now.  They will wait til 2018.  If there is a quick impeachment, and Trump is booted this year, Pence will take over, and the Republicans will be able to run on, "We put country over party" in 2018, and they can use that to rally the base.  If the Dems really want to make this a nightmare for the right, they don't push for anything til 2018.  They keep it in the headlines, use it to stall Republican policies, and make a big push for impeachment, accuse the Republicans of hiding all of it, and they rally the voters in 2018 to try and flip the House and Senate on that momentum.  

    So for betting purposes, I'm not betting anything right now, but I'll be keeping a close eye on these odds, and I'll be betting for Trump to be Prez on 1-1-18.  The price has to be right, but I think if I'm still getting anything below -300 after July 1, and they haven't moved forward on anything aggressive, I'll lay some money on it.  No way they do anything after Thanksgiving and Christmas, and I actually think both parties want to stall kicking him out.
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    I'm posting this as purely a betting thread...can't wait for the political opinion to eventually make it's way into here, and watch the emotions explode...

    Odds on Trump to be Prez on 1-1-18 have changed drastically. I've watched them change drastically just over the last hour.  Right now the odds are:

    NO +220
    YES -300

    The knee jerk reaction is to jump on NO because people think impeachment is coming.  Impeachment isn't kicking a President out.  Impeachment is just putting a President on trial.  It's reeeeeeally hard to kick a President out.  Nixon actually resigned.  He wasn't kicked out.  It takes the House of Representatives to file charges, and then 67 votes in the Senate for the final vote.  With both the House and the Senate being controlled by Republicans, I don't see them voting for impeachment.  The White House will deny, deny, deny, and this process will take forever.  Even if he does get impeached and kicked out, it won't be before 1-1-18.

    The other thing to take in to considerations is this.  If the Dems are playing this game didbolically, they won't push for impeachment right now.  They will wait til 2018.  If there is a quick impeachment, and Trump is booted this year, Pence will take over, and the Republicans will be able to run on, "We put country over party" in 2018, and they can use that to rally the base.  If the Dems really want to make this a nightmare for the right, they don't push for anything til 2018.  They keep it in the headlines, use it to stall Republican policies, and make a big push for impeachment, accuse the Republicans of hiding all of it, and they rally the voters in 2018 to try and flip the House and Senate on that momentum.  

    So for betting purposes, I'm not betting anything right now, but I'll be keeping a close eye on these odds, and I'll be betting for Trump to be Prez on 1-1-18.  The price has to be right, but I think if I'm still getting anything below -300 after July 1, and they haven't moved forward on anything aggressive, I'll lay some money on it.  No way they do anything after Thanksgiving and Christmas, and I actually think both parties want to stall kicking him out.
     
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    Posted: May. 17, 2017 - 1:36 AM ET #2

    Holy crap.  As I just posted this, the odds for him to be in office on 1-1-18 is already down to -145.  

    Un-be-lievable.
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    Holy crap.  As I just posted this, the odds for him to be in office on 1-1-18 is already down to -145.  

    Un-be-lievable.
     
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    Posted: May. 17, 2017 - 1:39 AM ET #3

    Aaaaannnnnd now it's back up to -290.  Not playing anything right now, but I will be checking closely and gauging what the political scope is.

    I guess there's a lot of money coming in on these bets right now.
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    Aaaaannnnnd now it's back up to -290.  Not playing anything right now, but I will be checking closely and gauging what the political scope is.

    I guess there's a lot of money coming in on these bets right now.
     
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    Posted: May. 17, 2017 - 2:07 AM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by alangrrbs:

    Aaaaannnnnd now it's back up to -290.  Not playing anything right now, but I will be checking closely and gauging what the political scope is.

    I guess there's a lot of money coming in on these bets right now.

    Heard on TV that Nixon got impeached after TWO years of investigation over Watergate Scandal. This thing does take time, Alan. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by alangrrbs:

    Aaaaannnnnd now it's back up to -290.  Not playing anything right now, but I will be checking closely and gauging what the political scope is.

    I guess there's a lot of money coming in on these bets right now.

    Heard on TV that Nixon got impeached after TWO years of investigation over Watergate Scandal. This thing does take time, Alan. 
     
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    Posted: May. 17, 2017 - 2:28 AM ET #5

    I'd say the only realistic way he's not President 1/1/18 is if he resigns.  With pressure from the media, public, democrats and especially the republicans can just be too much for him by years end.  While I think there's a reasonable chance he gets impeached ... I can't see the senate convicting him.  They just don't have the votes.  And none of this is gunna happen by 2018.  So will Trump gut this out for the remainder of 2017?  That I don't know.
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    I'd say the only realistic way he's not President 1/1/18 is if he resigns.  With pressure from the media, public, democrats and especially the republicans can just be too much for him by years end.  While I think there's a reasonable chance he gets impeached ... I can't see the senate convicting him.  They just don't have the votes.  And none of this is gunna happen by 2018.  So will Trump gut this out for the remainder of 2017?  That I don't know.
     
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    Posted: May. 17, 2017 - 2:46 AM ET #6

    He will definitely be president. Free money.
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    He will definitely be president. Free money.
     
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    Posted: May. 17, 2017 - 5:24 AM ET #7


    Where are you getting these wagering lines?  5Dimes? 
    ~~~~~ZOSO~~~~~
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    Where are you getting these wagering lines?  5Dimes? 
     
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    Posted: May. 17, 2017 - 6:11 AM ET #8


    Are there any assassination odds? 
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    Are there any assassination odds? 
     
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    Posted: May. 17, 2017 - 6:13 AM ET #9

    LOL. I lost a little on Election, going to make a fortune on this. I have prop bets all over Trump not 2020 nominee down...
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    LOL. I lost a little on Election, going to make a fortune on this. I have prop bets all over Trump not 2020 nominee down...
     
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    Posted: May. 17, 2017 - 9:48 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:


    Where are you getting these wagering lines?  5Dimes? 

    Yep
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:


    Where are you getting these wagering lines?  5Dimes? 

    Yep
     
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    Posted: May. 17, 2017 - 11:03 AM ET #11

    if you are going to make a bet like this, make sure you are very clear on what you are betting.  as alan points out, impeachment doesn't necessarily mean trump is out.  not to get into politics as alan said, but remember, the republicans control everything and i don't think they care about anything other than getting tax cuts for the rich so as long as they think that's a possibility, i think they let whatever trump does slide. 

    one caveat- the only other thing they care about is getting reelected and if it ever looks like the trump effect is jeopardized that, then you will see some action.  however, the problem with this is that it will be hard to tell until 2018.  also, many of these guys in the house are safe because their districts are gerrymandered so there are a certain percentage of house members who don't care about anything hurting the country because they can't be beat.


    but, my main point is that you need to be clear on what the bet entails.  if it's simply whether trump is president on a certain date, that's pretty simple, but there is another method to remove trump that isn't impeachment.  assume republicans think trump is just too f*cking nuts or stupid to get tax cuts for the rich passed, which is possible.  or, he people up so badly that even somewhat safe republicans are at risk in 2018.  republicans need a way to get rid of trump and put the idiot pence in place with as little collateral damage as possible.  the 25th amendment is a better way.  instead of having to tell their base they kicked trump out because he's the worst president imaginable, they can say the guy lost it due to dementia or whatever and they had to remove him because he can't handle the job.  it ain't great, but it probably looks better than impeachment because the guy is shite.


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    if you are going to make a bet like this, make sure you are very clear on what you are betting.  as alan points out, impeachment doesn't necessarily mean trump is out.  not to get into politics as alan said, but remember, the republicans control everything and i don't think they care about anything other than getting tax cuts for the rich so as long as they think that's a possibility, i think they let whatever trump does slide. 

    one caveat- the only other thing they care about is getting reelected and if it ever looks like the trump effect is jeopardized that, then you will see some action.  however, the problem with this is that it will be hard to tell until 2018.  also, many of these guys in the house are safe because their districts are gerrymandered so there are a certain percentage of house members who don't care about anything hurting the country because they can't be beat.


    but, my main point is that you need to be clear on what the bet entails.  if it's simply whether trump is president on a certain date, that's pretty simple, but there is another method to remove trump that isn't impeachment.  assume republicans think trump is just too f*cking nuts or stupid to get tax cuts for the rich passed, which is possible.  or, he people up so badly that even somewhat safe republicans are at risk in 2018.  republicans need a way to get rid of trump and put the idiot pence in place with as little collateral damage as possible.  the 25th amendment is a better way.  instead of having to tell their base they kicked trump out because he's the worst president imaginable, they can say the guy lost it due to dementia or whatever and they had to remove him because he can't handle the job.  it ain't great, but it probably looks better than impeachment because the guy is shite.


     
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    Posted: May. 17, 2017 - 11:41 AM ET #12

    Trump NOT in office at 1/1/20 is -115 on 5Dimes. That's fairly insane.
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    Trump NOT in office at 1/1/20 is -115 on 5Dimes. That's fairly insane.
     
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    Posted: May. 17, 2017 - 12:48 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Trump NOT in office at 1/1/20 is -115 on 5Dimes. That's fairly insane.

    Yep, he could be impeached but highly unlikely that he'll get the boot.  

    I wouldn't want my money tied up that long either.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Trump NOT in office at 1/1/20 is -115 on 5Dimes. That's fairly insane.

    Yep, he could be impeached but highly unlikely that he'll get the boot.  

    I wouldn't want my money tied up that long either.  
     
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    Posted: May. 18, 2017 - 12:47 AM ET #14

    Putin to win Russian Election.  -1200

    Seriously.  If you have a bunch of cash laying around...just put it in a sports book, and lay it on that.  In the gambling world, we often here the phrase..."easy money".  But that bet might be the definition of easy money.  
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    Putin to win Russian Election.  -1200

    Seriously.  If you have a bunch of cash laying around...just put it in a sports book, and lay it on that.  In the gambling world, we often here the phrase..."easy money".  But that bet might be the definition of easy money.  
     
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    Posted: May. 18, 2017 - 9:22 AM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by alangrrbs:

    Putin to win Russian Election.  -1200

    Seriously.  If you have a bunch of cash laying around...just put it in a sports book, and lay it on that.  In the gambling world, we often here the phrase..."easy money".  But that bet might be the definition of easy money.  



    have you seen any odds on putin to win the republican nomination for 2020? 


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    Quote Originally Posted by alangrrbs:

    Putin to win Russian Election.  -1200

    Seriously.  If you have a bunch of cash laying around...just put it in a sports book, and lay it on that.  In the gambling world, we often here the phrase..."easy money".  But that bet might be the definition of easy money.  



    have you seen any odds on putin to win the republican nomination for 2020? 


     
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    Posted: May. 18, 2017 - 10:13 AM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by alangrrbs:

    Putin to win Russian Election.  -1200

    Seriously.  If you have a bunch of cash laying around...just put it in a sports book, and lay it on that.  In the gambling world, we often here the phrase..."easy money".  But that bet might be the definition of easy money.  

    If they took a $1.2 million max on this bet I'd make it.

    If there was no cap, how couldn't Zuckerberg sink half his fortune into this bet. The guy literally fixes his election and thumbs his nose at you after.

    And this somehow opened at -800!?! It should be -800,000 or better OFF THE BOARD!
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    Quote Originally Posted by alangrrbs:

    Putin to win Russian Election.  -1200

    Seriously.  If you have a bunch of cash laying around...just put it in a sports book, and lay it on that.  In the gambling world, we often here the phrase..."easy money".  But that bet might be the definition of easy money.  

    If they took a $1.2 million max on this bet I'd make it.

    If there was no cap, how couldn't Zuckerberg sink half his fortune into this bet. The guy literally fixes his election and thumbs his nose at you after.

    And this somehow opened at -800!?! It should be -800,000 or better OFF THE BOARD!
     
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    Posted: May. 18, 2017 - 12:32 PM ET #17

    Odds that Trump:

    IS PRESIDENT on 1/1/2020 -105
    IS NOT President on 1/1/2020 -135

    5Dimes


    !!!!

    Trump is a FAVORITE to be removed from office/resign.

    HISTORIC odds here!!!
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    Odds that Trump:

    IS PRESIDENT on 1/1/2020 -105
    IS NOT President on 1/1/2020 -135

    5Dimes


    !!!!

    Trump is a FAVORITE to be removed from office/resign.

    HISTORIC odds here!!!
     
    Slobbasaurus
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    Posted: May. 18, 2017 - 4:38 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Odds that Trump:

    IS PRESIDENT on 1/1/2020 -105
    IS NOT President on 1/1/2020 -135

    5Dimes


    !!!!

    Trump is a FAVORITE to be removed from office/resign.

    HISTORIC odds here!!!

    Books are offering the same odds at -135 that Trump will be re-elected  so you probably have the dates wrong.  

    You should totally bet whatever Loser the Democrats manage to come up with and run, and take another bath on Election Night 2020, hahahaha.  You were so sure Hillary would be the President right now.  

    Or...

    If this line is not a mistake, you can make your money back because as much as you hate him, he's not resigning and he won't be impeached as long as the Republicans maintain the majority in Congress.  

    Wager with your head, not with emotion.  
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Odds that Trump:

    IS PRESIDENT on 1/1/2020 -105
    IS NOT President on 1/1/2020 -135

    5Dimes


    !!!!

    Trump is a FAVORITE to be removed from office/resign.

    HISTORIC odds here!!!

    Books are offering the same odds at -135 that Trump will be re-elected  so you probably have the dates wrong.  

    You should totally bet whatever Loser the Democrats manage to come up with and run, and take another bath on Election Night 2020, hahahaha.  You were so sure Hillary would be the President right now.  

    Or...

    If this line is not a mistake, you can make your money back because as much as you hate him, he's not resigning and he won't be impeached as long as the Republicans maintain the majority in Congress.  

    Wager with your head, not with emotion.  
     
    alangrrbs
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    Posted: May. 18, 2017 - 11:16 PM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:




    have you seen any odds on putin to win the republican nomination for 2020? 



    Ok.  That's funny.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:




    have you seen any odds on putin to win the republican nomination for 2020? 



    Ok.  That's funny.  
     
    alangrrbs
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    Posted: May. 18, 2017 - 11:25 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    If they took a $1.2 million max on this bet I'd make it.

    If there was no cap, how couldn't Zuckerberg sink half his fortune into this bet. The guy literally fixes his election and thumbs his nose at you after.

    And this somehow opened at -800!?! It should be -800,000 or better OFF THE BOARD!

    I'm guessing they might cap the max bet on this one...lol



    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    If they took a $1.2 million max on this bet I'd make it.

    If there was no cap, how couldn't Zuckerberg sink half his fortune into this bet. The guy literally fixes his election and thumbs his nose at you after.

    And this somehow opened at -800!?! It should be -800,000 or better OFF THE BOARD!

    I'm guessing they might cap the max bet on this one...lol



     
    alangrrbs
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    Posted: May. 18, 2017 - 11:27 PM ET #21

    Trump to be president on October 1 of this year is -855.  If you have extra money laying around that you don't mind tying up for a few months...this is the play.
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    Trump to be president on October 1 of this year is -855.  If you have extra money laying around that you don't mind tying up for a few months...this is the play.
     
    scalabrine
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    Posted: May. 19, 2017 - 12:24 AM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by Slobbasaurus:


    Books are offering the same odds at -135 that Trump will be re-elected  so you probably have the dates wrong.  

    You should totally bet whatever Loser the Democrats manage to come up with and run, and take another bath on Election Night 2020, hahahaha.  You were so sure Hillary would be the President right now.  

    Or...

    If this line is not a mistake, you can make your money back because as much as you hate him, he's not resigning and he won't be impeached as long as the Republicans maintain the majority in Congress.  

    Wager with your head, not with emotion.  

    Those are the odds on 5 Dimes right now. Not sure why you doubt them.


    And it is YOU that is way off on the reelection odds:

    Trump is a WHOPPING +345 to be reelected.

    And -515 for the field.



    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by Slobbasaurus:


    Books are offering the same odds at -135 that Trump will be re-elected  so you probably have the dates wrong.  

    You should totally bet whatever Loser the Democrats manage to come up with and run, and take another bath on Election Night 2020, hahahaha.  You were so sure Hillary would be the President right now.  

    Or...

    If this line is not a mistake, you can make your money back because as much as you hate him, he's not resigning and he won't be impeached as long as the Republicans maintain the majority in Congress.  

    Wager with your head, not with emotion.  

    Those are the odds on 5 Dimes right now. Not sure why you doubt them.


    And it is YOU that is way off on the reelection odds:

    Trump is a WHOPPING +345 to be reelected.

    And -515 for the field.



     
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    Posted: May. 19, 2017 - 12:37 AM ET #23



    Odds Trump will wear a Kippah during his trip inside Israel...

    Yes - 110

    No - 110




    ~~~~~ZOSO~~~~~
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    Odds Trump will wear a Kippah during his trip inside Israel...

    Yes - 110

    No - 110




     
    zelo123
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    Posted: May. 20, 2017 - 4:48 AM ET #24

    Trump is not going anywhere,believe it, you all on the left that would like to see that.              
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    Trump is not going anywhere,believe it, you all on the left that would like to see that.              
     
     
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    Posted: May. 20, 2017 - 10:16 AM ET #25

    I wouldn't bother betting on Trump to be impeached.  You have to consider the behavior that accompanies actions or words.  Trump's bluster indicates to me that he knows there's no direct implication or link between whatever activity that occurred, collusion or otherwise.  So even if all of his associates engaged in that collusion, which eventually we'll find out anyway, I suspect it's highly unlikely there's any evidence that points to Trump.

    Putin is the former head of the KGB, which I think is called FSB or something like that.  He knows exactly how intelligence officers conduct themselves, the protocols, how our system works, etc.  If they worked together, Putin made sure every detail was perfectly crafted to the finest minutiae.
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    I wouldn't bother betting on Trump to be impeached.  You have to consider the behavior that accompanies actions or words.  Trump's bluster indicates to me that he knows there's no direct implication or link between whatever activity that occurred, collusion or otherwise.  So even if all of his associates engaged in that collusion, which eventually we'll find out anyway, I suspect it's highly unlikely there's any evidence that points to Trump.

    Putin is the former head of the KGB, which I think is called FSB or something like that.  He knows exactly how intelligence officers conduct themselves, the protocols, how our system works, etc.  If they worked together, Putin made sure every detail was perfectly crafted to the finest minutiae.
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