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    monstergrit
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2018 - 2:04 AM ET #26

    side note:an_speak

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    side note:an_speak

     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2018 - 6:31 AM ET #27

    Too many iffs and no Trump won’t quit. First The senates power shift although Chuck could get the gavel having the needed 2/3 vote to impeach is unrealistic. Nancy in the house could get back the gavel and vote to move the proceedings forward but no way. Plus 350 is not realistic plus 10000 more to the point. 

    It will be entertaining for you and me. Reality this will just take up the next few years till the presidential election in 2020

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    Too many iffs and no Trump won’t quit. First The senates power shift although Chuck could get the gavel having the needed 2/3 vote to impeach is unrealistic. Nancy in the house could get back the gavel and vote to move the proceedings forward but no way. Plus 350 is not realistic plus 10000 more to the point. 

    It will be entertaining for you and me. Reality this will just take up the next few years till the presidential election in 2020

     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2018 - 7:07 AM ET #28

    Problem is that if they get The gavel in both houses. They going to move to impeachment. But they know they won’t win that fight without the votes . They simply can not state with any understanding what they are for only what they are against. And if they do somehow come up with something they stand for they will mimic it till it sounds like a tape recording...and defeat themselves trust when it comes to a national election the dems will find a way to lose.

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    Problem is that if they get The gavel in both houses. They going to move to impeachment. But they know they won’t win that fight without the votes . They simply can not state with any understanding what they are for only what they are against. And if they do somehow come up with something they stand for they will mimic it till it sounds like a tape recording...and defeat themselves trust when it comes to a national election the dems will find a way to lose.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2018 - 8:48 AM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by Dsn150:


    Comey- FBI director-2013-2017

    McCabe- Deputy Director FBI- 2016-2017

    Holder- Attorney General 2009-2015, only cabinet member in history to be held in contempt in Congress

    Lynch- Attorney General 2015-2017

    Clinton- Secretary of state 2009-2013

    Abedin- Deputy Chief of Staff for Clinton 2009-2013

    Brazile- acting DNC chairman 2011, again 2016-2017 -gave amusing apology to Bernie for a rigged primary against him...

    Yates- Deputy Attorney General 2015-2017

    Rosenstein- not on Obama's watch as far as I can tell-

    Mueller- FBI Director 2001-2013



    Obama presidency- 2009-2017

    I'll grant you Rosenstein, but the rest were all deep inside the Obama Administration-
    Talk about one year- 2016 seems to get a lot of attention here...

    Tell me again which lawsuits Donald J Trump is personally named in (since assuming the Presidency)- 


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dsn150:


    Comey- FBI director-2013-2017

    McCabe- Deputy Director FBI- 2016-2017

    Holder- Attorney General 2009-2015, only cabinet member in history to be held in contempt in Congress

    Lynch- Attorney General 2015-2017

    Clinton- Secretary of state 2009-2013

    Abedin- Deputy Chief of Staff for Clinton 2009-2013

    Brazile- acting DNC chairman 2011, again 2016-2017 -gave amusing apology to Bernie for a rigged primary against him...

    Yates- Deputy Attorney General 2015-2017

    Rosenstein- not on Obama's watch as far as I can tell-

    Mueller- FBI Director 2001-2013



    Obama presidency- 2009-2017

    I'll grant you Rosenstein, but the rest were all deep inside the Obama Administration-
    Talk about one year- 2016 seems to get a lot of attention here...

    Tell me again which lawsuits Donald J Trump is personally named in (since assuming the Presidency)- 


     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2018 - 8:50 AM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    dsn,

    Obama 8 years, some of those names are not Obama issues...Trump 1 year.

    The question stands, in ONE years time has any other president had so many legal issues as Trump has?

    It makes sense to me, you do your business dealings and build/destroy wealth as Trump has this sort of legal issues are common place.


    I think 2018 may be a big year for Obama- depending on when the IG report, as well as more info from Nunes, is released-
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    dsn,

    Obama 8 years, some of those names are not Obama issues...Trump 1 year.

    The question stands, in ONE years time has any other president had so many legal issues as Trump has?

    It makes sense to me, you do your business dealings and build/destroy wealth as Trump has this sort of legal issues are common place.


    I think 2018 may be a big year for Obama- depending on when the IG report, as well as more info from Nunes, is released-
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2018 - 9:14 AM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Too many iffs and no Trump won’t quit. First The senates power shift although Chuck could get the gavel having the needed 2/3 vote to impeach is unrealistic. Nancy in the house could get back the gavel and vote to move the proceedings forward but no way. Plus 350 is not realistic plus 10000 more to the point.  It will be entertaining for you and me. Reality this will just take up the next few years till the presidential election in 2020

    appreciate it. think 100-1 is way off tho this is a kinda silly thing to try to handicap (in reality what isn't for me anyways). Again this is basically a play on him resigning, impeeachment is a small bonus percent at best. Already laid out why i think he quits...guess we'll see. ill leave it at 100 for fun for now :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Too many iffs and no Trump won’t quit. First The senates power shift although Chuck could get the gavel having the needed 2/3 vote to impeach is unrealistic. Nancy in the house could get back the gavel and vote to move the proceedings forward but no way. Plus 350 is not realistic plus 10000 more to the point.  It will be entertaining for you and me. Reality this will just take up the next few years till the presidential election in 2020

    appreciate it. think 100-1 is way off tho this is a kinda silly thing to try to handicap (in reality what isn't for me anyways). Again this is basically a play on him resigning, impeeachment is a small bonus percent at best. Already laid out why i think he quits...guess we'll see. ill leave it at 100 for fun for now :)

     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2018 - 10:05 AM ET #32

    Understand a couple things people....

    Obama was the only President to have the GNP not grow during an 8 year term hence the slowest recovery from a recession ever...

    If he did one of the things Trump did in just 15 months, Trump never wins...Congress is a joke, strictly looking out for re-election based on the fundraising/election system which is forces them to care about that mostly at the end of the day

    Do you want your kids and grandkids to continue to live in a stale economy where the government is useless and just wastes money?

    Trump has some warts but no Democrat will create better trade laws, increase corporate spending leading to bonuses, higher wages, more money in most people's paychecks starting this month, infra strurcture spending(just watch what kind of jobs that creates, not Minimum Wage believe me), and lead companies to put new jobs in our country and not Mexico, Asia and anywhere your kids won't be working


    You can only hope someone leads us with decency and hopefully these ideas take root and your kids will be flipping burgers at McDonalds while you hope you saved for your self...
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    Understand a couple things people....

    Obama was the only President to have the GNP not grow during an 8 year term hence the slowest recovery from a recession ever...

    If he did one of the things Trump did in just 15 months, Trump never wins...Congress is a joke, strictly looking out for re-election based on the fundraising/election system which is forces them to care about that mostly at the end of the day

    Do you want your kids and grandkids to continue to live in a stale economy where the government is useless and just wastes money?

    Trump has some warts but no Democrat will create better trade laws, increase corporate spending leading to bonuses, higher wages, more money in most people's paychecks starting this month, infra strurcture spending(just watch what kind of jobs that creates, not Minimum Wage believe me), and lead companies to put new jobs in our country and not Mexico, Asia and anywhere your kids won't be working


    You can only hope someone leads us with decency and hopefully these ideas take root and your kids will be flipping burgers at McDonalds while you hope you saved for your self...
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2018 - 10:40 AM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by Dsn150:

    QUOTE Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: dsn, Obama 8 years, some of those names are not Obama issues...Trump 1 year. The question stands, in ONE years time has any other president had so many legal issues as Trump has? It makes sense to me, you do your business dealings and build/destroy wealth as Trump has this sort of legal issues are common place. I think 2018 may be a big year for Obama- depending on when the IG report, as well as more info from Nunes, is released-

    Even if your theory is correct, that is eight years in office..are you so fixated on Obama that you cant answer a question? Trump has been IN office ONE year, has there been a president that had so many legal issues with himself and family and staff in their FIRST year in office? See those big words, they are specific...not for you to try and say that ONE year means the legal issues were unfolded in one year, that is silliness. For being IN office ONE year, has another president seen so many legal issues?

    Trump, his family, his cabinet and appointees...these are his people, his direct and specific choices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dsn150:

    QUOTE Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: dsn, Obama 8 years, some of those names are not Obama issues...Trump 1 year. The question stands, in ONE years time has any other president had so many legal issues as Trump has? It makes sense to me, you do your business dealings and build/destroy wealth as Trump has this sort of legal issues are common place. I think 2018 may be a big year for Obama- depending on when the IG report, as well as more info from Nunes, is released-

    Even if your theory is correct, that is eight years in office..are you so fixated on Obama that you cant answer a question? Trump has been IN office ONE year, has there been a president that had so many legal issues with himself and family and staff in their FIRST year in office? See those big words, they are specific...not for you to try and say that ONE year means the legal issues were unfolded in one year, that is silliness. For being IN office ONE year, has another president seen so many legal issues?

    Trump, his family, his cabinet and appointees...these are his people, his direct and specific choices.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2018 - 10:41 AM ET #34

    What is manafort going to flip to if mueller already has his nuts in a vice for $ laundering before he ever knew how to spell Trump,and manafort says may I have another?
    Seems like your delusional bet is predicated on manafort spinning some Russian fairytales.
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    What is manafort going to flip to if mueller already has his nuts in a vice for $ laundering before he ever knew how to spell Trump,and manafort says may I have another?
    Seems like your delusional bet is predicated on manafort spinning some Russian fairytales.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2018 - 10:56 AM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    It looks like President Trump is planning on running in 2020...

    President Donald Trump energized conservative activists at CPAC today ... CPAC president Matt Schlapp said it was the biggest audience in history.

    Celebrating his accomplishments during his first year in office President Trump told the wildly cheering crowd .....

    “Hey, we have got seven years to go, folks!”

    MAGA......



    It's not hard to get the seals to clap
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    It looks like President Trump is planning on running in 2020...

    President Donald Trump energized conservative activists at CPAC today ... CPAC president Matt Schlapp said it was the biggest audience in history.

    Celebrating his accomplishments during his first year in office President Trump told the wildly cheering crowd .....

    “Hey, we have got seven years to go, folks!”

    MAGA......



    It's not hard to get the seals to clap
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2018 - 11:04 AM ET #36

    Strange times we’re living in where emotion reigns supreme and logic and reason are shamed to some dark corner.
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    Strange times we’re living in where emotion reigns supreme and logic and reason are shamed to some dark corner.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2018 - 11:32 AM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:


    It's not hard to get the seals to clap


    "Lions don't care about the opinions of sheep."
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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:


    It's not hard to get the seals to clap


    "Lions don't care about the opinions of sheep."
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2018 - 4:46 PM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Even if your theory is correct, that is eight years in office..are you so fixated on Obama that you cant answer a question? Trump has been IN office ONE year, has there been a president that had so many legal issues with himself and family and staff in their FIRST year in office? See those big words, they are specific...not for you to try and say that ONE year means the legal issues were unfolded in one year, that is silliness. For being IN office ONE year, has another president seen so many legal issues?

    Trump, his family, his cabinet and appointees...these are his people, his direct and specific choices.


    I think a better question would be how many of the legal issues are legitimate?

    As an international businessman/billionaire with multiple projects underway at any given time, he will be involved in multiple lawsuits-

    When your hatred of someone is so deep that it blinds you from any objectivity, maybe its time to step back for a moment...


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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Even if your theory is correct, that is eight years in office..are you so fixated on Obama that you cant answer a question? Trump has been IN office ONE year, has there been a president that had so many legal issues with himself and family and staff in their FIRST year in office? See those big words, they are specific...not for you to try and say that ONE year means the legal issues were unfolded in one year, that is silliness. For being IN office ONE year, has another president seen so many legal issues?

    Trump, his family, his cabinet and appointees...these are his people, his direct and specific choices.


    I think a better question would be how many of the legal issues are legitimate?

    As an international businessman/billionaire with multiple projects underway at any given time, he will be involved in multiple lawsuits-

    When your hatred of someone is so deep that it blinds you from any objectivity, maybe its time to step back for a moment...


     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2018 - 5:06 PM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Strange times we’re living in where emotion reigns supreme and logic and reason are shamed to some dark corner.
    You were not required to post your psychanalysts opinion of your mental state.

    bigsmile

    Now and then even a BLIND squirrel can find an acorn
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Strange times we’re living in where emotion reigns supreme and logic and reason are shamed to some dark corner.
    You were not required to post your psychanalysts opinion of your mental state.

    bigsmile

     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2018 - 8:05 PM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by Dsn150:

    QUOTE Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: Even if your theory is correct, that is eight years in office..are you so fixated on Obama that you cant answer a question? Trump has been IN office ONE year, has there been a president that had so many legal issues with himself and family and staff in their FIRST year in office? See those big words, they are specific...not for you to try and say that ONE year means the legal issues were unfolded in one year, that is silliness. For being IN office ONE year, has another president seen so many legal issues? Trump, his family, his cabinet and appointees...these are his people, his direct and specific choices. I think a better question would be how many of the legal issues are legitimate?As an international businessman/billionaire with multiple projects underway at any given time, he will be involved in multiple lawsuits-When your hatred of someone is so deep that it blinds you from any objectivity, maybe its time to step back for a moment...

     

    Ahhhh the old "fake news" racket huh? Well how about we play this joke of an angle then since you brought it up.

     

    What charges are fake, what legal issues are fake...tell me and show the proof they are fake...not some stupid "oh the media is against Trump" blah blah blah....and I am not talking about his companies, although you are right he is always in the middle of legal issues with HIS companies. I am talking about his appointees, his son-in-law, the people HE chose to surround himself with, he picked himself to represent him. So feel free to run and hide, or divert again with some angle that makes no sense. You cannot answer my question because the answer is NO president has this history...none. And there will be more to come. Manifort is drowning right now, things are going to get worse for Trump well before they get better.

    Enlighten me with your wisdom and please use facts and real data...not the sour grapes "You hate Trump so you are blinded" malarkey...I asked a question based on real, tangible, legit issues right in front of us. The fact that I think Trump is a disgusting and deplorable person has nothing to do with these real, legit legal issues.

    So?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dsn150:

    QUOTE Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: Even if your theory is correct, that is eight years in office..are you so fixated on Obama that you cant answer a question? Trump has been IN office ONE year, has there been a president that had so many legal issues with himself and family and staff in their FIRST year in office? See those big words, they are specific...not for you to try and say that ONE year means the legal issues were unfolded in one year, that is silliness. For being IN office ONE year, has another president seen so many legal issues? Trump, his family, his cabinet and appointees...these are his people, his direct and specific choices. I think a better question would be how many of the legal issues are legitimate?As an international businessman/billionaire with multiple projects underway at any given time, he will be involved in multiple lawsuits-When your hatred of someone is so deep that it blinds you from any objectivity, maybe its time to step back for a moment...

     

    Ahhhh the old "fake news" racket huh? Well how about we play this joke of an angle then since you brought it up.

     

    What charges are fake, what legal issues are fake...tell me and show the proof they are fake...not some stupid "oh the media is against Trump" blah blah blah....and I am not talking about his companies, although you are right he is always in the middle of legal issues with HIS companies. I am talking about his appointees, his son-in-law, the people HE chose to surround himself with, he picked himself to represent him. So feel free to run and hide, or divert again with some angle that makes no sense. You cannot answer my question because the answer is NO president has this history...none. And there will be more to come. Manifort is drowning right now, things are going to get worse for Trump well before they get better.

    Enlighten me with your wisdom and please use facts and real data...not the sour grapes "You hate Trump so you are blinded" malarkey...I asked a question based on real, tangible, legit issues right in front of us. The fact that I think Trump is a disgusting and deplorable person has nothing to do with these real, legit legal issues.

    So?

     
    Dsn150
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2018 - 9:24 PM ET #41

    Well-
    I asked in post 29- 

    In order to answer the question, you're going to have to tell me which lawsuits Donald J Trump has been named in since assuming the Presidency-
    For that matter, which lawsuits have been filed against Don Jr, Eric, Kushner, or Ivanka?

    Which part of any charges against Flynn, Manafort, Gates, or Papadopolous mention Donald J Trump?

    I'll be happy to answer your allegations of legal issues as soon as you provide one-

    Not things you wish were true, or heard from Don Lemon or Jake Tapper- but actual lawsuits filed against D Trump, D Trump Jr, Eric, Kushner, or Ivanka....
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    Well-
    I asked in post 29- 

    In order to answer the question, you're going to have to tell me which lawsuits Donald J Trump has been named in since assuming the Presidency-
    For that matter, which lawsuits have been filed against Don Jr, Eric, Kushner, or Ivanka?

    Which part of any charges against Flynn, Manafort, Gates, or Papadopolous mention Donald J Trump?

    I'll be happy to answer your allegations of legal issues as soon as you provide one-

    Not things you wish were true, or heard from Don Lemon or Jake Tapper- but actual lawsuits filed against D Trump, D Trump Jr, Eric, Kushner, or Ivanka....
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2018 - 9:38 PM ET #42

    So your definition of legal issues are lawsuits exclusively...ok I see we are playing the deflect and avoid game.

    I also did not say that any legal issues were pointed at the slimeball directly....YET anyway. Such things take much longer to unfold than the soldiers around him.

    The issue is the people around him that he chose and represent him many are hip deep and sinking with regard to legal issues.

    DJT has a long history of quandry and what we see now and in the future will be just another round of golf for the last few decades of Trump.

    So what other presidents in their first year are similar to the issues surrounding Trump? Oh and lets make sure to not include the women issues, as those will continue to come forward as well.

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    So your definition of legal issues are lawsuits exclusively...ok I see we are playing the deflect and avoid game.

    I also did not say that any legal issues were pointed at the slimeball directly....YET anyway. Such things take much longer to unfold than the soldiers around him.

    The issue is the people around him that he chose and represent him many are hip deep and sinking with regard to legal issues.

    DJT has a long history of quandry and what we see now and in the future will be just another round of golf for the last few decades of Trump.

    So what other presidents in their first year are similar to the issues surrounding Trump? Oh and lets make sure to not include the women issues, as those will continue to come forward as well.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2018 - 9:45 PM ET #43

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Gimmie,

    Your name is the epitome of Trump and his first year..

    I take issue with the state of the economy but especially with your comment about NOW..

    Yeah I got to go to Flemmings and have anything I want on the menu, I ate the steak, the lobster, the sides, appetizer, dessert, nice bottle of wine....it all was OUTSTANDING.

    The best part is I dont have to pay for it...I get to enjoyyyyyyyy all I want and my kids will pick up the tab, their kids will pick up the tab...my bill is being financed by the lowest wage workers who will see their benefits erode and the debt escalate.

     

    But me? the steak was delicious and since I dont think about anyone but me and my steak, life is GREAT!

     

    What a joke..



    All I took from this is that it doesn't matter who is in "office", if you apply yourself, work hard, DON'T EXPECT A HANDOUT FROM THE GOVERNMENT, then you too can enjoy steak & lobster with all the fixin's at your local Fleming's.....

    BTW - there's one about 5 miles from my house, I LOVE the "5-For-$6-'Till-7" happy hour. Man! That prime burger is de---lish!!!!


    Sorry, what were we talking about? 

    Anyways.....

    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Gimmie,

    Your name is the epitome of Trump and his first year..

    I take issue with the state of the economy but especially with your comment about NOW..

    Yeah I got to go to Flemmings and have anything I want on the menu, I ate the steak, the lobster, the sides, appetizer, dessert, nice bottle of wine....it all was OUTSTANDING.

    The best part is I dont have to pay for it...I get to enjoyyyyyyyy all I want and my kids will pick up the tab, their kids will pick up the tab...my bill is being financed by the lowest wage workers who will see their benefits erode and the debt escalate.

     

    But me? the steak was delicious and since I dont think about anyone but me and my steak, life is GREAT!

     

    What a joke..



    All I took from this is that it doesn't matter who is in "office", if you apply yourself, work hard, DON'T EXPECT A HANDOUT FROM THE GOVERNMENT, then you too can enjoy steak & lobster with all the fixin's at your local Fleming's.....

    BTW - there's one about 5 miles from my house, I LOVE the "5-For-$6-'Till-7" happy hour. Man! That prime burger is de---lish!!!!


    Sorry, what were we talking about? 

    Anyways.....

     
    Dsn150
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2018 - 11:26 PM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    So your definition of legal issues are lawsuits exclusively...ok I see we are playing the deflect and avoid game.

    I also did not say that any legal issues were pointed at the slimeball directly....YET anyway. Such things take much longer to unfold than the soldiers around him.

    The issue is the people around him that he chose and represent him many are hip deep and sinking with regard to legal issues.

    DJT has a long history of quandry and what we see now and in the future will be just another round of golf for the last few decades of Trump.

    So what other presidents in their first year are similar to the issues surrounding Trump? Oh and lets make sure to not include the women issues, as those will continue to come forward as well.


    So your answer is none-
    No legal charges have been filed against Donald J Trump or any of his family members since he took office....
    So, in his first year of his presidency, he has had exactly the same number of charges brought against him as me- zero....

    What was your point again?

    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    So your definition of legal issues are lawsuits exclusively...ok I see we are playing the deflect and avoid game.

    I also did not say that any legal issues were pointed at the slimeball directly....YET anyway. Such things take much longer to unfold than the soldiers around him.

    The issue is the people around him that he chose and represent him many are hip deep and sinking with regard to legal issues.

    DJT has a long history of quandry and what we see now and in the future will be just another round of golf for the last few decades of Trump.

    So what other presidents in their first year are similar to the issues surrounding Trump? Oh and lets make sure to not include the women issues, as those will continue to come forward as well.


    So your answer is none-
    No legal charges have been filed against Donald J Trump or any of his family members since he took office....
    So, in his first year of his presidency, he has had exactly the same number of charges brought against him as me- zero....

    What was your point again?

     
    Dsn150
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2018 - 11:35 PM ET #45

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    So your definition of legal issues are lawsuits exclusively...ok I see we are playing the deflect and avoid game.

    I also did not say that any legal issues were pointed at the slimeball directly....YET anyway. Such things take much longer to unfold than the soldiers around him.

    The issue is the people around him that he chose and represent him many are hip deep and sinking with regard to legal issues.

    DJT has a long history of quandry and what we see now and in the future will be just another round of golf for the last few decades of Trump.

    So what other presidents in their first year are similar to the issues surrounding Trump? Oh and lets make sure to not include the women issues, as those will continue to come forward as well.


    None of the charges and/or indictments have anything to do with D Trump-

    Manafort's issues predated Trump even announcing his candidacy-
    Flynn lied about something that wasn't even improper- I always thought he was kind of shady, but is a weak charge-sounds like it might get withdrawn- time will tell-
    Papadopolous- lying to FBI- nothing incriminating except for himself
    Gates- lying to FBI

    After almost a year, this is the best Mueller can come up with?
    I realize he has to drop a couple of people, just to justify his existence, but not much meat there-

    On the other hand- there seems to be quite a bit yet to unfold about the investigative teams themselves- funny how that worked out-
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    So your definition of legal issues are lawsuits exclusively...ok I see we are playing the deflect and avoid game.

    I also did not say that any legal issues were pointed at the slimeball directly....YET anyway. Such things take much longer to unfold than the soldiers around him.

    The issue is the people around him that he chose and represent him many are hip deep and sinking with regard to legal issues.

    DJT has a long history of quandry and what we see now and in the future will be just another round of golf for the last few decades of Trump.

    So what other presidents in their first year are similar to the issues surrounding Trump? Oh and lets make sure to not include the women issues, as those will continue to come forward as well.


    None of the charges and/or indictments have anything to do with D Trump-

    Manafort's issues predated Trump even announcing his candidacy-
    Flynn lied about something that wasn't even improper- I always thought he was kind of shady, but is a weak charge-sounds like it might get withdrawn- time will tell-
    Papadopolous- lying to FBI- nothing incriminating except for himself
    Gates- lying to FBI

    After almost a year, this is the best Mueller can come up with?
    I realize he has to drop a couple of people, just to justify his existence, but not much meat there-

    On the other hand- there seems to be quite a bit yet to unfold about the investigative teams themselves- funny how that worked out-
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2018 - 11:39 PM ET #46

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2017/05/05/trump-has-been-sued-times-federal-court-since-inauguration-day/E4AqZBYaKYHtzwfQ3k9hdM/story.html
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    https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2017/05/05/trump-has-been-sued-times-federal-court-since-inauguration-day/E4AqZBYaKYHtzwfQ3k9hdM/story.html
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2018 - 11:43 PM ET #47

    Yeah-
    Those as head of state, related to enacted policy, aren't really what we're talking about now, are they?
    By that standard, every other President has also been named-

    But thanks for playing...
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    Yeah-
    Those as head of state, related to enacted policy, aren't really what we're talking about now, are they?
    By that standard, every other President has also been named-

    But thanks for playing...
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dsn150:

    Yeah-
    Those as head of state, related to enacted policy, aren't really what we're talking about now, are they?
    By that standard, every other President has also been named-

    But thanks for playing...

    post #29  Tell me again which lawsuits Donald J Trump is personally named in (since assuming the Presidency)- 


    Taken out of context but since republicans often cite things out of context, I thought you would appreciate it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dsn150:

    Yeah-
    Those as head of state, related to enacted policy, aren't really what we're talking about now, are they?
    By that standard, every other President has also been named-

    But thanks for playing...

    post #29  Tell me again which lawsuits Donald J Trump is personally named in (since assuming the Presidency)- 


    Taken out of context but since republicans often cite things out of context, I thought you would appreciate it.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 25, 2018 - 10:42 AM ET #49

    Hey Wall Street, I haven’t even started looking bro but wasn’t Obama’s commissioner of the IRS Lois Lerner was a real nice choice!  

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.nytimes.com/2017/10/05/us/politics/irs-targeting-tea-party-liberals-democrats.amp.html

    Every administration screws up bro but how many administrations waste 8 years with no economic growth, tons of good jobs disappearing day and college graduates working at person Sporting Goods?

    Have you seen the Middle Class? Oh I’m sorry it’s in Asia..
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    Hey Wall Street, I haven’t even started looking bro but wasn’t Obama’s commissioner of the IRS Lois Lerner was a real nice choice!  

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.nytimes.com/2017/10/05/us/politics/irs-targeting-tea-party-liberals-democrats.amp.html

    Every administration screws up bro but how many administrations waste 8 years with no economic growth, tons of good jobs disappearing day and college graduates working at person Sporting Goods?

    Have you seen the Middle Class? Oh I’m sorry it’s in Asia..
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 25, 2018 - 6:59 PM ET #50

    Impeachment = Civil unrest on a scale never seen in modern times. 

    A wrecked economy + likely a market crash... And for what?  Because the dems ran the most corrupt/Incompetent/dishonest candidate in the history of the USA.

    2/3 of the Senate is an impossibility so keep dreaming...


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    Impeachment = Civil unrest on a scale never seen in modern times. 

    A wrecked economy + likely a market crash... And for what?  Because the dems ran the most corrupt/Incompetent/dishonest candidate in the history of the USA.

    2/3 of the Senate is an impossibility so keep dreaming...


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