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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2017 - 6:22 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Lose the pop vote by 3 million and rank 46 out of 58 in electoral elections. That's some landslide.

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/12/18/us/elections/donald-trump-electoral-college-popular-vote.html

    are you sure those numbers do not seem right. 
    How could this be possibly correct where we live in a the greatest democracy in the world.    
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Lose the pop vote by 3 million and rank 46 out of 58 in electoral elections. That's some landslide.

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/12/18/us/elections/donald-trump-electoral-college-popular-vote.html

    are you sure those numbers do not seem right. 
    How could this be possibly correct where we live in a the greatest democracy in the world.    
     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2017 - 6:51 PM ET #27

    99% of the land in the US is colored red. It is extremely hard to make this up. The Left can not stand it. Total butt kicking. What is hard to understand is the Left's refusal to have a 'peaceful transition of power'! The Dems put a bunch of dumbed down hooligans with IQ's of less than 50 out their to wreak havoc. Classless!

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    99% of the land in the US is colored red. It is extremely hard to make this up. The Left can not stand it. Total butt kicking. What is hard to understand is the Left's refusal to have a 'peaceful transition of power'! The Dems put a bunch of dumbed down hooligans with IQ's of less than 50 out their to wreak havoc. Classless!

     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2017 - 6:57 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:


    are you sure those numbers do not seem right. 
    How could this be possibly correct where we live in a the greatest democracy in the world.    
    Click on the link.
    And we don't live in a true democracy, we live in a representative democracy
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:


    are you sure those numbers do not seem right. 
    How could this be possibly correct where we live in a the greatest democracy in the world.    
    Click on the link.
    And we don't live in a true democracy, we live in a representative democracy
     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2017 - 6:59 PM ET #29

    actually i think he was reading from one of those fake news sources remember ny times does not always report truthfully
    NEW YORK (CNN) -- The New York Times has concluded, after an extensive internal investigation, that one of its former reporters committed "frequent acts of journalistic fraud." - cnn 11 may 2oo3

    ...In a 7,500 word article published Saturday on its Web site, the prestigious newspaper accuses the reporter of making up reports from other cities while writing from his apartment in Brooklyn. The paper says the reporter invented quotes, wrote about scenery from published photographs and stole material from other news organizations.

    The article, to be published in Sunday's print editions, details how reporter Jayson Blair, 27, was quickly promoted through the ranks from intern to the national desk despite a history of corrections, sloppy reporting and lectures from his editors.

    Blair did not comment on the paper's investigation, though he was given numerous opportunities to defend himself or provide accurate information, the newspaper reported.

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    actually i think he was reading from one of those fake news sources remember ny times does not always report truthfully
    NEW YORK (CNN) -- The New York Times has concluded, after an extensive internal investigation, that one of its former reporters committed "frequent acts of journalistic fraud." - cnn 11 may 2oo3

    ...In a 7,500 word article published Saturday on its Web site, the prestigious newspaper accuses the reporter of making up reports from other cities while writing from his apartment in Brooklyn. The paper says the reporter invented quotes, wrote about scenery from published photographs and stole material from other news organizations.

    The article, to be published in Sunday's print editions, details how reporter Jayson Blair, 27, was quickly promoted through the ranks from intern to the national desk despite a history of corrections, sloppy reporting and lectures from his editors.

    Blair did not comment on the paper's investigation, though he was given numerous opportunities to defend himself or provide accurate information, the newspaper reported.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2017 - 7:03 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Click on the link.
    And we don't live in a true democracy, we live in a representative democracy

    sounds like a bunch of double talk to me do clarify what the differences between a true democracy and a representative democracy are we not the part of a true representative democracy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Click on the link.
    And we don't live in a true democracy, we live in a representative democracy

    sounds like a bunch of double talk to me do clarify what the differences between a true democracy and a representative democracy are we not the part of a true representative democracy?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2017 - 7:04 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    99% of the land in the US is colored red. It is extremely hard to make this up. The Left can not stand it. Total butt kicking. What is hard to understand is the Left's refusal to have a 'peaceful transition of power'! The Dems put a bunch of dumbed down hooligans with IQ's of less than 50 out their to wreak havoc. Classless!

    Ignorant people like you don't like facts. Give me a link to dispute it sunny boi. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    99% of the land in the US is colored red. It is extremely hard to make this up. The Left can not stand it. Total butt kicking. What is hard to understand is the Left's refusal to have a 'peaceful transition of power'! The Dems put a bunch of dumbed down hooligans with IQ's of less than 50 out their to wreak havoc. Classless!

    Ignorant people like you don't like facts. Give me a link to dispute it sunny boi. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2017 - 7:07 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    99% of the land in the US is colored red. It is extremely hard to make this up. The Left can not stand it. Total butt kicking. What is hard to understand is the Left's refusal to have a 'peaceful transition of power'! The Dems put a bunch of dumbed down hooligans with IQ's of less than 50 out their to wreak havoc. Classless!


    so why would the democratic supposively out for the little guy not view that all that real estate should not give some voice in electing the Presidency?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    99% of the land in the US is colored red. It is extremely hard to make this up. The Left can not stand it. Total butt kicking. What is hard to understand is the Left's refusal to have a 'peaceful transition of power'! The Dems put a bunch of dumbed down hooligans with IQ's of less than 50 out their to wreak havoc. Classless!


    so why would the democratic supposively out for the little guy not view that all that real estate should not give some voice in electing the Presidency?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2017 - 7:22 PM ET #33

    to quote a link sundance with a mobile just state where ever you found the information date signature of the article and post with a lap top you can click move the mouse to cover the information . click the right side to drop a menu click copy go back to this field click the response field rt click the mouse and select paste ..
    the site does not like pictures but text is easy.  we use this emotion con to suggest a poke concept that this is all friendly banter the shtick as you will.
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    to quote a link sundance with a mobile just state where ever you found the information date signature of the article and post with a lap top you can click move the mouse to cover the information . click the right side to drop a menu click copy go back to this field click the response field rt click the mouse and select paste ..
    the site does not like pictures but text is easy.  we use this emotion con to suggest a poke concept that this is all friendly banter the shtick as you will.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2017 - 7:27 PM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:


    sounds like a bunch of double talk to me do clarify what the differences between a true democracy and a representative democracy are we not the part of a true representative democracy?

    true democracy is rule by majority

    representative democracy is when a group elects a representative to speak for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:


    sounds like a bunch of double talk to me do clarify what the differences between a true democracy and a representative democracy are we not the part of a true representative democracy?

    true democracy is rule by majority

    representative democracy is when a group elects a representative to speak for them.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2017 - 8:02 PM ET #35

    so what law could be passed to correct this obvious bias?
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    so what law could be passed to correct this obvious bias?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2017 - 8:11 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    so what law could be passed to correct this obvious bias?
    Do away with the electoral college or make all electoral votes represent the same population.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    so what law could be passed to correct this obvious bias?
    Do away with the electoral college or make all electoral votes represent the same population.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2017 - 8:26 PM ET #37

    what is an electoral college how does this decide an election?
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    what is an electoral college how does this decide an election?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2017 - 9:51 PM ET #38

    The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes.

    you really think they can do all this to pass that piece of legislation not to mention the state ratification. How is this possible without a 50 state stadegy y'all know you just fly over us anyway.
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    The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes.

    you really think they can do all this to pass that piece of legislation not to mention the state ratification. How is this possible without a 50 state stadegy y'all know you just fly over us anyway.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2017 - 9:54 PM ET #39

    now see i am one up on dark horse so he will concede. not respond or he will dig deep for some way the party might be able to you know actual think of a fifty state stradegy some one from that side had a stradegy like this...hmm i forget.
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    now see i am one up on dark horse so he will concede. not respond or he will dig deep for some way the party might be able to you know actual think of a fifty state stradegy some one from that side had a stradegy like this...hmm i forget.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2017 - 10:07 PM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    now see i am one up on dark horse so he will concede. not respond or he will dig deep for some way the party might be able to you know actual think of a fifty state stradegy some one from that side had a stradegy like this...hmm i forget.


    https://www.pri.org/stories/2016-11-19/states-consider-move-get-around-electoral-college
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    now see i am one up on dark horse so he will concede. not respond or he will dig deep for some way the party might be able to you know actual think of a fifty state stradegy some one from that side had a stradegy like this...hmm i forget.


    https://www.pri.org/stories/2016-11-19/states-consider-move-get-around-electoral-college
     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2017 - 10:12 PM ET #41

    sounds like a bunch of dreamers and you call yourself some sort of realist.
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    sounds like a bunch of dreamers and you call yourself some sort of realist.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2017 - 10:23 PM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:


    https://www.pri.org/stories/2016-11-19/states-consider-move-get-around-electoral-college


    what happens when a group of states descide to break away from the law of the land and in direct violation of federal law in so much they violate the spirit of the document of the constitution (( seems we have a panel some where when these matters must be heard.)
    when states disagree with other states) 1


    1 when parentheses or closed functions  are used it hint for another red hearing to throw.
    or another bone to chew because that point has no merit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:


    https://www.pri.org/stories/2016-11-19/states-consider-move-get-around-electoral-college


    what happens when a group of states descide to break away from the law of the land and in direct violation of federal law in so much they violate the spirit of the document of the constitution (( seems we have a panel some where when these matters must be heard.)
    when states disagree with other states) 1


    1 when parentheses or closed functions  are used it hint for another red hearing to throw.
    or another bone to chew because that point has no merit.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2017 - 10:29 PM ET #43

    now the hint also reveals where i intend to take my arguement.
    in some super secret poorly spelled lawyer lingo Dark horse knows well i think he understands where i will be taking my discussion and he needs to keep the boat from ending there. so he can dig up other sources of support for such a fantasy to become reality....
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    now the hint also reveals where i intend to take my arguement.
    in some super secret poorly spelled lawyer lingo Dark horse knows well i think he understands where i will be taking my discussion and he needs to keep the boat from ending there. so he can dig up other sources of support for such a fantasy to become reality....
     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2017 - 10:32 PM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:



    what happens when a group of states descide to break away from the law of the land and in direct violation of federal law in so much they violate the spirit of the document of the constitution (( seems we have a panel some where when these matters must be heard.)
    when states disagree with other states) 1


    1 when parentheses or closed functions  are used it hint for another red hearing to throw.
    or another bone to chew because that point has no merit.

    What law is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:



    what happens when a group of states descide to break away from the law of the land and in direct violation of federal law in so much they violate the spirit of the document of the constitution (( seems we have a panel some where when these matters must be heard.)
    when states disagree with other states) 1


    1 when parentheses or closed functions  are used it hint for another red hearing to throw.
    or another bone to chew because that point has no merit.

    What law is that?

     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2017 - 10:45 PM ET #45

    well we have federal courts that decide these matters...
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    well we have federal courts that decide these matters...
     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2017 - 10:48 PM ET #46

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    well we have federal courts that decide these matters...

    You posted that it is in direct violation of federal law, which law?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    well we have federal courts that decide these matters...

    You posted that it is in direct violation of federal law, which law?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2017 - 10:50 PM ET #47

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    What law is that?


    but to your question
    \ the states do not pick the electoral college.
    the members voting for a candidate dictate who the individual will be
    that decides how they vote in the electoral college.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    What law is that?


    but to your question
    \ the states do not pick the electoral college.
    the members voting for a candidate dictate who the individual will be
    that decides how they vote in the electoral college.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2017 - 10:53 PM ET #48

    states would have to pass laws to redefinee the will of the college.
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    states would have to pass laws to redefinee the will of the college.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2017 - 11:02 PM ET #49

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    states would have to pass laws to redefinee the will of the college.

    The Compact is based on the current rule in Article II, Section 1, Clause 2 of the Constitution that gives each state legislature the plenary power to determine how it chooses its electors
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    states would have to pass laws to redefinee the will of the college.

    The Compact is based on the current rule in Article II, Section 1, Clause 2 of the Constitution that gives each state legislature the plenary power to determine how it chooses its electors
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2017 - 11:06 PM ET #50

    but that was admended

    Amendment XII

    The electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;--The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives
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    but that was admended

    Amendment XII

    The electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;--The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives
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