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    ilsp2003
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2017 - 10:42 AM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by wordsmyth:



    Why have a military then?
     
    By the way. Obama isn't just a coward, he is a vagina.

    He should have never drew a line in the sand if he didn't intend to back it up. What do you have to say about that?

    You gonna try tell me that line in sand was fake news?

    Before you make any comments, you better get your facts straight.

    one major difference between Trump's strikes against the Assad regime and Obama's ISIS airstrikes is the legal authorization for carrying them out.

    When Obama considered launching airstrikes in Syria against 2013 in response to the chemical attacks, he decided to go to Congress before striking, and the resistance he faced there convinced the president not to hit Assad.

    https://www.cnn.com/2013/08/31/politics/obama-syria-transcript-saturday/

    Obama stated that he was comfortable going forward without U.N. Security Council approval.

    When Obam a ordered the US military to attack Libya to get rid of Ghaddafi, a lot of right-wingres  said it was unconstitutional because Congress did not approve it 
    Was the Republican-led congress a coward and a vagina ? 


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    Quote Originally Posted by wordsmyth:



    Why have a military then?
     
    By the way. Obama isn't just a coward, he is a vagina.

    He should have never drew a line in the sand if he didn't intend to back it up. What do you have to say about that?

    You gonna try tell me that line in sand was fake news?

    Before you make any comments, you better get your facts straight.

    one major difference between Trump's strikes against the Assad regime and Obama's ISIS airstrikes is the legal authorization for carrying them out.

    When Obama considered launching airstrikes in Syria against 2013 in response to the chemical attacks, he decided to go to Congress before striking, and the resistance he faced there convinced the president not to hit Assad.

    https://www.cnn.com/2013/08/31/politics/obama-syria-transcript-saturday/

    Obama stated that he was comfortable going forward without U.N. Security Council approval.

    When Obam a ordered the US military to attack Libya to get rid of Ghaddafi, a lot of right-wingres  said it was unconstitutional because Congress did not approve it 
    Was the Republican-led congress a coward and a vagina ? 


     
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2017 - 11:27 AM ET #27

    President can conduct war for 90 days.
    Without Congress Congress has not declared war since www2 . hard to belie e that this is now an issue.
    But according to the constitution trump can bomb at will till July without Congress.
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    President can conduct war for 90 days.
    Without Congress Congress has not declared war since www2 . hard to belie e that this is now an issue.
    But according to the constitution trump can bomb at will till July without Congress.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2017 - 12:27 PM ET #28

    Give the credit to Pres. Trump for attacking Assad, Assad is a murderer he single handed murders over 400,000 of his own people. And the uses of mass destruction weapons signal his demise eventually, both our allies UK and Australia concur the US's strike against Assad.  
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    Give the credit to Pres. Trump for attacking Assad, Assad is a murderer he single handed murders over 400,000 of his own people. And the uses of mass destruction weapons signal his demise eventually, both our allies UK and Australia concur the US's strike against Assad.  
     
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2017 - 1:11 PM ET #29

    Trump has international support for the strikes, those voicing objection are the predictable/usual suspects, russia and the left. 

    Trump was given 2 options by his advisors, precision strikes on military targets or a dance protest outside syrian embassy. 

    I think he made the right choice. 

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    Trump has international support for the strikes, those voicing objection are the predictable/usual suspects, russia and the left. 

    Trump was given 2 options by his advisors, precision strikes on military targets or a dance protest outside syrian embassy. 

    I think he made the right choice. 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2017 - 2:29 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    President can conduct war for 90 days.
    Without Congress Congress has not declared war since www2 . hard to belie e that this is now an issue.
    But according to the constitution trump can bomb at will till July without Congress.

    War Powers Resolution (WPR) or War Powers Act give the president of the United States the authority to use force without congress declaration of war or specific statutory authorization only in the case of a national emergency (attack on the United States, its territories, allies , armed forces)
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    President can conduct war for 90 days.
    Without Congress Congress has not declared war since www2 . hard to belie e that this is now an issue.
    But according to the constitution trump can bomb at will till July without Congress.

    War Powers Resolution (WPR) or War Powers Act give the president of the United States the authority to use force without congress declaration of war or specific statutory authorization only in the case of a national emergency (attack on the United States, its territories, allies , armed forces)
     
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2017 - 2:39 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

    Trump has international support for the strikes, those voicing objection are the predictable/usual suspects, russia and the left. 

    Trump was given 2 options by his advisors, precision strikes on military targets or a dance protest outside syrian embassy. 

    I think he made the right choice. 


    Get your facts straight 

    "While we all condemn the atrocities in Syria, the United States was not attacked. The President needs Congressional authorization for military action as required by the Constitution. Our prior interventions in this region have done nothing to make us safer and Syria will be no different,"


    Republican Senator Rand Paul 



    Trump in 2013 

    The President must get congressional approval before attacking Syria - Big mistake IF he does not !


    Republican Robert Aderholt  and Pete Olson were against Obama in 2013 now approve of Trump's action

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    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

    Trump has international support for the strikes, those voicing objection are the predictable/usual suspects, russia and the left. 

    Trump was given 2 options by his advisors, precision strikes on military targets or a dance protest outside syrian embassy. 

    I think he made the right choice. 


    Get your facts straight 

    "While we all condemn the atrocities in Syria, the United States was not attacked. The President needs Congressional authorization for military action as required by the Constitution. Our prior interventions in this region have done nothing to make us safer and Syria will be no different,"


    Republican Senator Rand Paul 



    Trump in 2013 

    The President must get congressional approval before attacking Syria - Big mistake IF he does not !


    Republican Robert Aderholt  and Pete Olson were against Obama in 2013 now approve of Trump's action

     
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2017 - 2:42 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:


    Before you make any comments, you better get your facts straight.

    one major difference between Trump's strikes against the Assad regime and Obama's ISIS airstrikes is the legal authorization for carrying them out.

    When Obama considered launching airstrikes in Syria against 2013 in response to the chemical attacks, he decided to go to Congress before striking, and the resistance he faced there convinced the president not to hit Assad.

    https://www.cnn.com/2013/08/31/politics/obama-syria-transcript-saturday/

    Obama stated that he was comfortable going forward without U.N. Security Council approval.

    When Obam a ordered the US military to attack Libya to get rid of Ghaddafi, a lot of right-wingres  said it was unconstitutional because Congress did not approve it 
    Was the Republican-led congress a coward and a vagina ? 


    The point is still the same, regardless. Why would Obama open his pie hole and draw a line if he had any chance of walking it back for any reason?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:


    Before you make any comments, you better get your facts straight.

    one major difference between Trump's strikes against the Assad regime and Obama's ISIS airstrikes is the legal authorization for carrying them out.

    When Obama considered launching airstrikes in Syria against 2013 in response to the chemical attacks, he decided to go to Congress before striking, and the resistance he faced there convinced the president not to hit Assad.

    https://www.cnn.com/2013/08/31/politics/obama-syria-transcript-saturday/

    Obama stated that he was comfortable going forward without U.N. Security Council approval.

    When Obam a ordered the US military to attack Libya to get rid of Ghaddafi, a lot of right-wingres  said it was unconstitutional because Congress did not approve it 
    Was the Republican-led congress a coward and a vagina ? 


    The point is still the same, regardless. Why would Obama open his pie hole and draw a line if he had any chance of walking it back for any reason?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2017 - 2:48 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:


    Oh is that right ?  Where am I wrong Darkhorse..and be specific..

    Assad is still there and they have more airfields. What did we gain slim for our 1 billion dollar show of force? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:


    Oh is that right ?  Where am I wrong Darkhorse..and be specific..

    Assad is still there and they have more airfields. What did we gain slim for our 1 billion dollar show of force? 
     
    HockeyTeeth
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2017 - 2:51 PM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:


    Get your facts straight 

    "While we all condemn the atrocities in Syria, the United States was not attacked. The President needs Congressional authorization for military action as required by the Constitution. Our prior interventions in this region have done nothing to make us safer and Syria will be no different,"


    Republican Senator Rand Paul 



    Trump in 2013 

    The President must get congressional approval before attacking Syria - Big mistake IF he does not !


    Republican Robert Aderholt  and Pete Olson were against Obama in 2013 now approve of Trump's action



    i have my facts straight, enjoy the protest. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:


    Get your facts straight 

    "While we all condemn the atrocities in Syria, the United States was not attacked. The President needs Congressional authorization for military action as required by the Constitution. Our prior interventions in this region have done nothing to make us safer and Syria will be no different,"


    Republican Senator Rand Paul 



    Trump in 2013 

    The President must get congressional approval before attacking Syria - Big mistake IF he does not !


    Republican Robert Aderholt  and Pete Olson were against Obama in 2013 now approve of Trump's action



    i have my facts straight, enjoy the protest. 
     
    ClubDirt
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2017 - 2:57 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by Day-trader1:

    the question is who exactly are we supporting? Isis is fighting Assad and we just bombed the pissss out of him?? was this just a message to the rest of the world? was this a slap to the face of the media that Trump and Russia are not in bed together? Was this to boost his ratings? 


    these are good questions along with what bws mentioned:  trump basically told these syrian kids to f*ck off when we knew they were fleeing chemical and other terrorist attacks and now trump cares enough to basically attack the country without consulting congress?  why? 

    i may have found the answer.  i'll let this guy explain  it.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8znlxJVwAAcxHG.jpg:large
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    Quote Originally Posted by Day-trader1:

    the question is who exactly are we supporting? Isis is fighting Assad and we just bombed the pissss out of him?? was this just a message to the rest of the world? was this a slap to the face of the media that Trump and Russia are not in bed together? Was this to boost his ratings? 


    these are good questions along with what bws mentioned:  trump basically told these syrian kids to f*ck off when we knew they were fleeing chemical and other terrorist attacks and now trump cares enough to basically attack the country without consulting congress?  why? 

    i may have found the answer.  i'll let this guy explain  it.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8znlxJVwAAcxHG.jpg:large
     
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2017 - 3:08 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:



    i have my facts straight, enjoy the protest. 

    what protest are you referring you ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:



    i have my facts straight, enjoy the protest. 

    what protest are you referring you ?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2017 - 3:10 PM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by wordsmyth:

    The point is still the same, regardless. Why would Obama open his pie hole and draw a line if he had any chance of walking it back for any reason?

    what was your point again ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wordsmyth:

    The point is still the same, regardless. Why would Obama open his pie hole and draw a line if he had any chance of walking it back for any reason?

    what was your point again ?

     
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2017 - 3:15 PM ET #38

    The anti trump anti white men anti immigration pro lbgt pink hat a day without women black lives matter and all the endless do nothing protests you and your ilk occupy your time with.

    Those protests . 

    Stick to the protests, the big boys are handling things now.
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    The anti trump anti white men anti immigration pro lbgt pink hat a day without women black lives matter and all the endless do nothing protests you and your ilk occupy your time with.

    Those protests . 

    Stick to the protests, the big boys are handling things now.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2017 - 3:25 PM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

    The anti trump anti white men anti immigration pro lbgt pink hat a day without women black lives matter and all the endless do nothing protests you and your ilk occupy your time with.

    Those protests . 

    Stick to the protests, the big boys are handling things now.

    Dude you're really  annoying  

    U.S should have attacked Syria back in 2013 and Assad should have been removed from power.

    Stop making it a partisan issue. Republicans who oppose Obama in 2013 are the same ones cheering for Trump.

    is Destroying one airfield enough ?

    what's next ?

    Sooner or later Congress needs to get involved IF Trump has a long term strategy 

    Russia pledges to boost Syria defenses 
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    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

    The anti trump anti white men anti immigration pro lbgt pink hat a day without women black lives matter and all the endless do nothing protests you and your ilk occupy your time with.

    Those protests . 

    Stick to the protests, the big boys are handling things now.

    Dude you're really  annoying  

    U.S should have attacked Syria back in 2013 and Assad should have been removed from power.

    Stop making it a partisan issue. Republicans who oppose Obama in 2013 are the same ones cheering for Trump.

    is Destroying one airfield enough ?

    what's next ?

    Sooner or later Congress needs to get involved IF Trump has a long term strategy 

    Russia pledges to boost Syria defenses 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2017 - 3:28 PM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:



    these are good questions along with what bws mentioned:  trump basically told these syrian kids to f*ck off when we knew they were fleeing chemical and other terrorist attacks and now trump cares enough to basically attack the country without consulting congress?  why? 

    i may have found the answer.  i'll let this guy explain  it.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8znlxJVwAAcxHG.jpg:large

    Good one

    Trump was against attacking Syria back in 2013 when Assad used chemical weapons 
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:



    these are good questions along with what bws mentioned:  trump basically told these syrian kids to f*ck off when we knew they were fleeing chemical and other terrorist attacks and now trump cares enough to basically attack the country without consulting congress?  why? 

    i may have found the answer.  i'll let this guy explain  it.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8znlxJVwAAcxHG.jpg:large

    Good one

    Trump was against attacking Syria back in 2013 when Assad used chemical weapons 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2017 - 3:35 PM ET #41

    this guy really thinks it was a bad idea to bomb syria, especially without approval from congress.  he seems to be a huge critic of our president.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8z2IrdXcAIxqqw.jpg


    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8xhxSYXYAAyJx0.jpg



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    this guy really thinks it was a bad idea to bomb syria, especially without approval from congress.  he seems to be a huge critic of our president.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8z2IrdXcAIxqqw.jpg


    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8xhxSYXYAAyJx0.jpg



     
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2017 - 3:37 PM ET #42

    A law can not overrule the comstitional authority GI end the executive branch by the constitution without a constitutional amendment.

    Go such was confirmed and the constitution really has no grey area.
    Consider we Dodge a bullet. Hillary stated we should bb every air base in Syria without notification of the Russian command in Syria
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    A law can not overrule the comstitional authority GI end the executive branch by the constitution without a constitutional amendment.

    Go such was confirmed and the constitution really has no grey area.
    Consider we Dodge a bullet. Hillary stated we should bb every air base in Syria without notification of the Russian command in Syria
     
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2017 - 3:40 PM ET #43

    Congress raises and spends money that is its job. They can not even do that with any rhyme or reason. 
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    Congress raises and spends money that is its job. They can not even do that with any rhyme or reason. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2017 - 3:42 PM ET #44

    Might as well wish god be on earth than congress actually passes a balanced budget that the CBO and ways amd eans committee actually affis that it will be balanced

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    Might as well wish god be on earth than congress actually passes a balanced budget that the CBO and ways amd eans committee actually affis that it will be balanced

     
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2017 - 3:48 PM ET #45

    Give you my point. Congress can not do its Job. So it must try to do the executive branch job as well? @ilisp
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    Give you my point. Congress can not do its Job. So it must try to do the executive branch job as well? @ilisp
     
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2017 - 3:56 PM ET #46

    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    this guy really thinks it was a bad idea to bomb syria, especially without approval from congress.  he seems to be a huge critic of our president.


    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8z2IrdXcAIxqqw.jpg


    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8xhxSYXYAAyJx0.jpg






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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    this guy really thinks it was a bad idea to bomb syria, especially without approval from congress.  he seems to be a huge critic of our president.


    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8z2IrdXcAIxqqw.jpg


    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8xhxSYXYAAyJx0.jpg






    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8vEVhcXoAANzi5.jpg:large
     
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2017 - 4:04 PM ET #47

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Give you my point. Congress can not do its Job. So it must try to do the executive branch job as well? @ilisp

    I agree 

    This is supposed to be a team effort.

    Those who disagreed with Obama are the ones cheering for Trump
    What  has Congress done to stop Assad 4 years ago ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Give you my point. Congress can not do its Job. So it must try to do the executive branch job as well? @ilisp

    I agree 

    This is supposed to be a team effort.

    Those who disagreed with Obama are the ones cheering for Trump
    What  has Congress done to stop Assad 4 years ago ?

     
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2017 - 4:24 PM ET #48

    so, what the f*ck are we doing in syria other than wasting money?  50 missiles and we can't hit an airbase?

    https://www.businessinsider.com/monitor-syrian-warplanes-take-off-from-airbase-hit-by-us-cruise-missiles-2017-4
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    so, what the f*ck are we doing in syria other than wasting money?  50 missiles and we can't hit an airbase?

    https://www.businessinsider.com/monitor-syrian-warplanes-take-off-from-airbase-hit-by-us-cruise-missiles-2017-4
     
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2017 - 4:29 PM ET #49

    Yeah I saw those photos a bit as well, it does not look like our aim was so great.

    That is what happens when you charge forward blindly without taking proper time to plan and prepare.

    Vintage Trump...
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    Yeah I saw those photos a bit as well, it does not look like our aim was so great.

    That is what happens when you charge forward blindly without taking proper time to plan and prepare.

    Vintage Trump...
     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2017 - 4:32 PM ET #50

    I don't know how much damage was done but the Russians are supposed to have S300 and S400 anti-aircraft missile systems and they could not stop the Tomahawk missiles.





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    I don't know how much damage was done but the Russians are supposed to have S300 and S400 anti-aircraft missile systems and they could not stop the Tomahawk missiles.





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