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    True cost of Ukraine war.

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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2023 - 3:21 PM ET #1

    The Ukrainian high command is at pains to present a positive spin on the increasingly bloody defence of the east of the country. US officials have estimated that the Ukrainian army may have taken 120,000 casualties compared with 200,000 by the Russian army.

    Kupol told the Washington Post this week that the Ukrainian army training was often poor and that some of the rookie replacements didn’t know how to throw a hand grenade or fire a rifle.

    Others had abandoned their positions shortly after arriving at the front line, he said.

    A third of a million soldiers  are dead.

    Put it context Ukraine and Russia has lost more men in Ukraine then the entirety of world war 2..... 

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    The Ukrainian high command is at pains to present a positive spin on the increasingly bloody defence of the east of the country. US officials have estimated that the Ukrainian army may have taken 120,000 casualties compared with 200,000 by the Russian army.

    Kupol told the Washington Post this week that the Ukrainian army training was often poor and that some of the rookie replacements didn’t know how to throw a hand grenade or fire a rifle.

    Others had abandoned their positions shortly after arriving at the front line, he said.

    A third of a million soldiers  are dead.

    Put it context Ukraine and Russia has lost more men in Ukraine then the entirety of world war 2..... 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2023 - 3:54 PM ET #2

    I know I know we need to send better death dealing devices... (Sarcastic emoji).

    Why not out fit em with sky net and a10 predator drones and give em all a shorter life span than the knock off battery in that electric dildo( eye roll)......

    Maybe China can argue with both sides to end this blood bath... ( Angel emoji prayer hands) or their won't be a Ukrainian left..let alone any mamal plant or incect if this escalates and goes another year....

    Don't give me bidens laptop or trump's blow job with a Hooker as some rebuttal we are witnessing the extermination of Ukrainian and Russians.....

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    I know I know we need to send better death dealing devices... (Sarcastic emoji).

    Why not out fit em with sky net and a10 predator drones and give em all a shorter life span than the knock off battery in that electric dildo( eye roll)......

    Maybe China can argue with both sides to end this blood bath... ( Angel emoji prayer hands) or their won't be a Ukrainian left..let alone any mamal plant or incect if this escalates and goes another year....

    Don't give me bidens laptop or trump's blow job with a Hooker as some rebuttal we are witnessing the extermination of Ukrainian and Russians.....

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2023 - 3:55 PM ET #3

    Putin wants nothing more for this to drag on more years, continued pumping of American dollars and Euros from the Western cabal into slavi Ukraini, the longer the better all while weakening the system he wishes to break.  

    German tanks? 

    Polish fighter jets?  

    What do those matter when you will have no Ukrainian soldiers to man them?  What comes next after that?  

    Where will all the false virtue Blue & Yellow flags fly when American soldiers enter the equation?  This isn't post 9/11 Iraq or Afghanistan sentiment we are talking about.... there will be no appetite for dead US troops on Ukrainian soil.  

    Time is a flat circle....
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    Putin wants nothing more for this to drag on more years, continued pumping of American dollars and Euros from the Western cabal into slavi Ukraini, the longer the better all while weakening the system he wishes to break.  

    German tanks? 

    Polish fighter jets?  

    What do those matter when you will have no Ukrainian soldiers to man them?  What comes next after that?  

    Where will all the false virtue Blue & Yellow flags fly when American soldiers enter the equation?  This isn't post 9/11 Iraq or Afghanistan sentiment we are talking about.... there will be no appetite for dead US troops on Ukrainian soil.  

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2023 - 4:06 PM ET #4

    Sure why not... We have dead veterans on the battlefield Ukrainian foreign defense campaign yes any abled bodies combat trained ez us personal are welcome to fight for Ukraine in Ukraine....

     

    Yes contact Ukrainian embassy and you can be shipped and killed within hours... Unless your hung up on the transport out of Berlin...

    . Life expectancy on the front line...a friggin June bug come to mind about 5 maybe 6 days...

    Should separate what is mortal to immortal very quickly...

     

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    Sure why not... We have dead veterans on the battlefield Ukrainian foreign defense campaign yes any abled bodies combat trained ez us personal are welcome to fight for Ukraine in Ukraine....

     

    Yes contact Ukrainian embassy and you can be shipped and killed within hours... Unless your hung up on the transport out of Berlin...

    . Life expectancy on the front line...a friggin June bug come to mind about 5 maybe 6 days...

    Should separate what is mortal to immortal very quickly...

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2023 - 4:10 PM ET #5

    If you have a son or daughter in Kyiv or Moscow about 16 and they are drafted.. kiss em good bye give em a big meal by the plot at the local cementary and wait for the news I. About a week......

     

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    If you have a son or daughter in Kyiv or Moscow about 16 and they are drafted.. kiss em good bye give em a big meal by the plot at the local cementary and wait for the news I. About a week......

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2023 - 4:17 PM ET #6

    [Quote: Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg]Putin wants nothing more for this to drag on more years, continued pumping of American dollars and Euros from the Western cabal into slavi Ukraini, the longer the better all while weakening the system he wishes to break.   German tanks?  Polish fighter jets?   What do those matter when you will have no Ukrainian soldiers to man them?  What comes next after that?   Where will all the false virtue Blue & Yellow flags fly when American soldiers enter the equation?  This isn't post 9/11 Iraq or Afghanistan sentiment we are talking about.... there will be no appetite for dead US troops on Ukrainian soil.

    /https://fightforua.org/

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg]Putin wants nothing more for this to drag on more years, continued pumping of American dollars and Euros from the Western cabal into slavi Ukraini, the longer the better all while weakening the system he wishes to break.   German tanks?  Polish fighter jets?   What do those matter when you will have no Ukrainian soldiers to man them?  What comes next after that?   Where will all the false virtue Blue & Yellow flags fly when American soldiers enter the equation?  This isn't post 9/11 Iraq or Afghanistan sentiment we are talking about.... there will be no appetite for dead US troops on Ukrainian soil.

    /https://fightforua.org/

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2023 - 4:22 PM ET #7

    Upon arrival to the collection point in Ukraine, join the International Legion of Defence of Ukraine (sign the contract) and engage the Russian occupiers together with fighters from all over the world and Ukrainian soldiers.

     

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/88qwm3/foreign-fighters-in-ukraine 

    You can join the Legion if you have combat experience, have no criminal record and are aged between 18 and 60 years.

    Waivers can be granted under special circumstances 

     

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    Upon arrival to the collection point in Ukraine, join the International Legion of Defence of Ukraine (sign the contract) and engage the Russian occupiers together with fighters from all over the world and Ukrainian soldiers.

     

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/88qwm3/foreign-fighters-in-ukraine 

    You can join the Legion if you have combat experience, have no criminal record and are aged between 18 and 60 years.

    Waivers can be granted under special circumstances 

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2023 - 4:54 PM ET #8

    @nature1970

     good luck to them.... 

    Time is a flat circle....
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    @nature1970

     good luck to them.... 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2023 - 5:43 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    The Ukrainian high command is at pains to present a positive spin on the increasingly bloody defence of the east of the country. US officials have estimated that the Ukrainian army may have taken 120,000 casualties compared with 200,000 by the Russian army. Kupol told the Washington Post this week that the Ukrainian army training was often poor and that some of the rookie replacements didn’t know how to throw a hand grenade or fire a rifle. Others had abandoned their positions shortly after arriving at the front line, he said. A third of a million soldiers  are dead. Put it context Ukraine and Russia has lost more men in Ukraine then the entirety of world war 2.....

    Surprised no one has called you on this one. Not that I trust Wikipedia but they state 8.6 million Russian soldiers died in WW2 and as an armchair history buff I agree that sounds about right.

    None the less over 300,000 dead and millions displaced in a war that the US had no intention of avoiding rather escalated the hostilities. So stupid! And so are Republicans who support it's continuance. The belief that if we get peace Putin will just reload is so damn stupid. We see how powerful Russia is, THEY'RE NOT!!!! 

    Ya have to believe these politicians are in bed with defense contractors, or, they are actually that ignorant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    The Ukrainian high command is at pains to present a positive spin on the increasingly bloody defence of the east of the country. US officials have estimated that the Ukrainian army may have taken 120,000 casualties compared with 200,000 by the Russian army. Kupol told the Washington Post this week that the Ukrainian army training was often poor and that some of the rookie replacements didn’t know how to throw a hand grenade or fire a rifle. Others had abandoned their positions shortly after arriving at the front line, he said. A third of a million soldiers  are dead. Put it context Ukraine and Russia has lost more men in Ukraine then the entirety of world war 2.....

    Surprised no one has called you on this one. Not that I trust Wikipedia but they state 8.6 million Russian soldiers died in WW2 and as an armchair history buff I agree that sounds about right.

    None the less over 300,000 dead and millions displaced in a war that the US had no intention of avoiding rather escalated the hostilities. So stupid! And so are Republicans who support it's continuance. The belief that if we get peace Putin will just reload is so damn stupid. We see how powerful Russia is, THEY'RE NOT!!!! 

    Ya have to believe these politicians are in bed with defense contractors, or, they are actually that ignorant.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2023 - 6:06 PM ET #10

    How many in Ukraine? Not the entire theater

    Russia fought from Moscow to Berlin from Norway to Yugoslavia 

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    How many in Ukraine? Not the entire theater

    Russia fought from Moscow to Berlin from Norway to Yugoslavia 

     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2023 - 6:07 PM ET #11

    The eastern front come to mind...

     

    Their were dead Russians in Germany Poland Czech republic slavakia Lithuania the Slavic nations ECT ect....

    You know when they were actually killing Nazis....

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    The eastern front come to mind...

     

    Their were dead Russians in Germany Poland Czech republic slavakia Lithuania the Slavic nations ECT ect....

    You know when they were actually killing Nazis....

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