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Posted: #101
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Where r these states where adultery is illegal

Second on the Google search:

https://www.freep.com/story/life/family/2014/04/17/in-which-states-is-cheating-on-your-spouse-illegal/28936155/

A bit dated but I don't think most people are in any kind of a hurry to prosecute two consenting adults for something like this. Well maybe except for ole' c0ckblock Bowlslit. 

Screw the economy, stability in the Middle East, lowering taxes or the national debt. We need to make sure unhappily married people don't stray before finalizing a divorce. 
 
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Second on the Google search:

https://www.freep.com/story/life/family/2014/04/17/in-which-states-is-cheating-on-your-spouse-illegal/28936155/

A bit dated but I don't think most people are in any kind of a hurry to prosecute two consenting adults for something like this. Well maybe except for ole' c0ckblock Bowlslit. 

Screw the economy, stability in the Middle East, lowering taxes or the national debt. We need to make sure unhappily married people don't stray before finalizing a divorce. 

As usual, poorly thought out by yourself once again. Even though you like to hang on to the small details.

First off do you know how many marriages are ruined because one strayed the first time then their spouse couldn't forget or forgive them. Are you aware of how many people cheat for several years before they confess or get caught?

Then there is the whole idea of the indirect consequences of the couple being torn up. Most times, the couples just had communication issues that led to one of them straying.

Surely, there isn't any ambition to prosecute people that cheat but could you imagine how much better things would be if cheating was socially unaccepted and prosecuted?

Some cultures, a huge portion of their domestic violence issues stem from infidelity.

How hard is it to end the relationship if the love isn't there? Why live a lie...a huge lie at that?

I'm no hypocrite either, I've never even cheated on a girlfriend. When I knew I wasn't in love anymore, I ended the relationship and moved on. 

In most of those states, including New York, adultery is a misdemeanor. But in others — Massachusetts, Idaho, Michigan, Oklahoma, and Wisconsin — it is a felony, though rarely prosecuted. In the armed forces, it can be punished severely, although usually in combination with greater wrongdoing. 
 
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Posted: #103
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Do you really care if politicians have extra marital affairs if they are doing a good job? I honestly could care less if any politician, whether they be a D or an R, fools around on their spouse, so long as they are doing a good job. There have been plenty of politicians from all sides of the spectrum that have been caught cheating on their wives. 

If Trump was able to turn the economy around and create stability in the Middle East and improve the lives of most Americans, then I could honestly care less if he wanted to celebrate by banging half of the Miss USA contestants. Hell I'd even vote for him next time around. 


i couldn't care less, with one exception.  when the politicians tell us how they're for "family values" or some other pandering bullsh*t and then gets busted cheating on his wife or molesting kids or whatever else "family values" rightwingers so often do, then that's different because no one likes such a blatant hypocrite especially when that hypocrite s trying to tell us how to live our lives.

otherwise, sure it would be great if a politician was faithful to his/her spouse but i'm much more interested in the person doing a decent job.
 
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As usual, poorly thought out by yourself once again. Even though you like to hang on to the small details.

First off do you know how many marriages are ruined because one strayed the first time then their spouse couldn't forget or forgive them. Are you aware of how many people cheat for several years before they confess or get caught?

Then there is the whole idea of the indirect consequences of the couple being torn up. Most times, the couples just had communication issues that led to one of them straying.

Surely, there isn't any ambition to prosecute people that cheat but could you imagine how much better things would be if cheating was socially unaccepted and prosecuted?

Some cultures, a huge portion of their domestic violence issues stem from infidelity.

How hard is it to end the relationship if the love isn't there? Why live a lie...a huge lie at that?

I'm no hypocrite either, I've never even cheated on a girlfriend. When I knew I wasn't in love anymore, I ended the relationship and moved on. 

In most of those states, including New York, adultery is a misdemeanor. But in others — Massachusetts, Idaho, Michigan, Oklahoma, and Wisconsin — it is a felony, though rarely prosecuted. In the armed forces, it can be punished severely, although usually in combination with greater wrongdoing. 

I think it would be terrible if we tied up the court system trying to prosecute adulterers. Our court system has enough issues going on, no sense in adding something as trivial as people trying to find a bit of sexual gratification. I would view it along the lines of frivolous lawsuits: something that his useless, unproductive, and ties up the court system. 

Could you imagine if society decided to start prosecuting EVERY law that is on the books in every state? There are some pretty absurd laws out there. Hell, if you drove over the speed limit today you should be subject to a fine right? Even one mph over is breaking the law. Think we should start pestering police to enforce every traffic violation or do you think that their time and energy might be better served elsewhere? 

Interesting that you're in favor of prosecuting adultery though. There are a group of people who very much agree with you on that...Islamic extremists....Well Muslims in general by definition but I'm sure not all of them feel like throwing stones at each others heads. They are very much in favor of prosecuting adultery. 

Perhaps you have more in common with them than you realize. 

Why is it hard for people to end relationships when they're not in love? I could think of some monetary reasons depending on a man's income, assets, social status, etc. 

Not saying it's right for a person to cheat, but it definitely shouldn't be prosecuted like you seem to want it to be. 
 
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i couldn't care less, with one exception.  when the politicians tell us how they're for "family values" or some other pandering bullsh*t and then gets busted cheating on his wife or molesting kids or whatever else "family values" rightwingers so often do, then that's different because no one likes such a blatant hypocrite especially when that hypocrite s trying to tell us how to live our lives.

otherwise, sure it would be great if a politician was faithful to his/her spouse but i'm much more interested in the person doing a decent job.

I'm with you Club. I don't care what consenting adults do on their own time. It was wrong of Bill Clinton to lie to the American public about his affair but his dumb a$$ should have never denied publicly in the first place. He should have just been honest and said: I know Monica isn't much in the looks dept. but she was there and I was in the mood. 

I just hate when people give that holier than thou attitude and preach moral values then turn out to be giant hypocrites. 

If they do a good job, I couldn't care less if they are having gangbangs with midgets in their free time. 
 
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yes, bill clinton clearly isn't right in the head and what he did was pretty pathetic.  but at the end of the day, he's not one of these "family values" types and they were two consenting adults so i'd prefer to have a president who doesn't do that garbage, but as long as he's doing a decent job, i can't get too fired up over it.  not like, say ken starr, who seems to have lost his enthusiasm for going after sex cases once he was getting paiud the big money from baylor, a nice baptist university.
 
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You do realize that adultery is against the law in most states? 

I do want my elected political figures to not only obey the law, but be examples of good hearted people.

Being unfaithful is in my view the biggest lie a person could tell. 

Also remember that it's not just the transgression itself, it's also the cover up.

The cover up can be just as bad as the act itself.

I guess we have different definitions on what "most states" is. 

I could think of some bigger lies that have far more dire consequences but I know how sensitive you get when George W. Bush is brought up. 
 
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ken starr -

In September 2015, Baylor's Board of Regents initiated an external review of the university's response to reports of sexual violence to be conducted by the Pepper Hamilton law firm. Baylor had been accused of failing to respond to reports of rape and sexual assault filed by at least six female students from 2009 to 2016. Two former football players, Tevin Elliott and Sam Ukwuachu, have been convicted of rape. Elliot is currently serving a 20-year sentence after his conviction in January 2014.[54] Pepper Hamilton reported their findings to the Regents on May 13,[55] and on May 26 the Regents announced Starr's removal as university president, effective May 31.[56]


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A king is supreme ruler. That would be more Hillary and Obama’s style. Well, treason is punishable by death. A vote for the democrats is treasonous.

I know your post was sarcastic but there is a lot of truth to it. Let me make it clear: I am for democracy. The thing is - The population is too stupid to vote. The founders never envisioned the majority of the American population would become mentally disabled.

The founders could never envision an America where…......

America’s enemies would be in positions of power in the US government.  
Americans would burn and stomp on their own nations flag.
The news and media is anti-American, pro-communist/pro-socialist propaganda 24/7.  
Public schools and colleges are anti-American indoctrination camps.  
Murderous and pedophilic Islam is praised and acceptable but Christianity is condemned.
Sharia Law and Islam are advocated but the American way of life is condemned.
Border laws are considered bigoted.
Illegal aliens are allowed to vote, drive, get free education etc.  
Illegal aliens wave another nations flag and openly protest on American soil and demand rights.
Police are vilified and the criminals are victims.
Keeping humans with penises from using the women’s restroom is considered hateful and bigoted.
Socialism and communism is acceptable while capitalism and republicanism is condemned.
Racism towards whites is acceptable but racism towards any other race is considered unacceptable.
Patriotism is now considered bigoted and racist.
The declaration of independence is now considered racist.
The American flag is now considered racist.
The star spangled banner is now considered racist.
The pledge of allegiance is now considered racist and bigoted.

This is why it should be illegal to vote for anyone but Trump. A vote for a democrat is racist, treasonous, anti-American, dangerous, and against morality.




you do know trump is the biggest racist in the world right?
 
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Posted: #110
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I guess we have different definitions on what "most states" is. 

I could think of some bigger lies that have far more dire consequences but I know how sensitive you get when George W. Bush is brought up. 

So there were no democrats that saw the same evidence from the cia and voted to go to war?
 
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So there were no democrats that saw the same evidence from the cia and voted to go to war?
 
I guess there are no Republicans that commit adultery or do you just have selective memory? 

But to address your comment, I guess in your eyes adultery is worse than starting a war that kills thousands and ruins millions of lives. Nice logic. 
 
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I guess there are no Republicans that commit adultery or do you just have selective memory? 

But to address your comment, I guess in your eyes adultery is worse than starting a war that kills thousands and ruins millions of lives. Nice logic. 

You missed my point again. I said both parties elect despicable people. Are you only seeing the parts of my posts you want to see?
 
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its important that we elect despicable people...

our culture has made us like this...

and it helps us on a world stage, hence the 'trumplike' regimes now in power in Austria and Philippines
 
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Didn't Donald Trump once have an affair? 

He also raped his first wife, but that's ok because HE GONNA MAKE 'MERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!!   
 
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murica!!!
 
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You missed my point again. I said both parties elect despicable people. Are you only seeing the parts of my posts you want to see?

I must have missed the part where you specifically name Republicans who have committed adultery, like you repeatedly do with Dems. Could you link me to the thread where you do that please? 

I'll make it easier for you, can you just link me to the thread(s) where you have criticized a Republican for anything? Anything at all. 
 
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He also raped his first wife, but that's ok because HE GONNA MAKE 'MERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!!   

This has to be quite the dilemma for Bowlslit. He's gone on record as backing a candidate who has committed adultery. An act he considers "...the biggest lie a person can tell". 

In my humble opinion, I consider it for more disgusting and reprehensible to play a role in four Americans dying and lying about that, than adultery....but to each their own. I guess everyone is entitled to their own standards of morality. 
 
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I must have missed the part where you specifically name Republicans who have committed adultery, like you repeatedly do with Dems. Could you link me to the thread where you do that please? 

I'll make it easier for you, can you just link me to the thread(s) where you have criticized a Republican for anything? Anything at all. 

It's getting to the point that it's no longer any fun to argue with you because your reading comprehension needs a lot of work.

I clearly said that both parties elect despicable people but the libs are more apt to overlook shenanigans while conservatives tend to be less forgiving. 

This thread pretty much sums that up because you guys said that you don't care if your political figures rob a bank as long as they pay taxes on the loot or something like that. If they can kiss a lot of babies it doesn't matter what they've done, Right?


 
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This has to be quite the dilemma for Bowlslit. He's gone on record as backing a candidate who has committed adultery. An act he considers "...the biggest lie a person can tell". 

In my humble opinion, I consider it for more disgusting and reprehensible to play a role in four Americans dying and lying about that, than adultery....but to each their own. I guess everyone is entitled to their own standards of morality. 

Which four Americans are you talking about? Benghazi? Somalia? Iraq? Afghanistan?

 
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He also raped his first wife, but that's ok because HE GONNA MAKE 'MERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!!   


Some people should be more careful about their accusations that may or may not be true. Some libs will go to any length....

“During a deposition given by me in connection with my matrimonial case, I stated that my husband had raped me,” the Ivana Trump statement said. “[O]n one occasion during 1989, Mr. Trump and I had marital relations in which he behaved very differently toward me than he had during our marriage. As a woman, I felt violated, as the love and tenderness, which he normally exhibited towards me, was absent. I referred to this as a ‘rape,’ but I do not want my words to be interpreted in a literal or criminal sense.”
 
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It's getting to the point that it's no longer any fun to argue with you because your reading comprehension needs a lot of work.

I clearly said that both parties elect despicable people but the libs are more apt to overlook shenanigans while conservatives tend to be less forgiving. 

This thread pretty much sums that up because you guys said that you don't care if your political figures rob a bank as long as they pay taxes on the loot or something like that. If they can kiss a lot of babies it doesn't matter what they've done, Right?



I reviewed the thread and found where you did say this. Congrats for vaguely criticizing (if it can even be called that) conservative politicians. I mean, you didn't call anyone out in particular like you so often do of the Democrats but I guess we'll take what we can get here. 

Upon reviewing this thread I noticed you also admonished someone for attempting to "censor those that you disagree with". Then later on in the thread you compliment Money for a post where he suggests that anyone who doesn't vote for Trump be charged with treason, and in turn, should be executed. 

You don't think you're a hypocrite in the same manner than Brock Turner doesn't think he is a rapist. Now let's be clear because, as much as you think my reading comprehension skills are bad, yours are much worse. Review the recent Zimmerman thread if you need to. I'm not calling you a rapist, just making a parallel to your delusional thoughts that you're not a hypocrite. 

I'm not saying I don't care what political figures do. I care if they commit crimes such as robbery, using your terrible example. Or covering up their roles in the deaths of people, that they directly or indirectly contributed too (btw do you think invading Iraq was good idea or do you care to specifically criticize Bush/Cheney at all?). What I don't care about, and what I think is completely ignorant, is your view that politicians or everyday citizens should be prosecuted for something like adultery. 

I'd be willing to bet you have violated the speed at some point recently, or committed some silly violation. Hell depending on the state you're in, you might have had sex in a position that violates state law. Do you really think that the police and prosecuting attorneys should waste their time and resources on things like that? You really think that society would be better off if we took a proactive approach in prosecuting adultery? 


 
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Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:


Which four Americans are you talking about? Benghazi? Somalia? Iraq? Afghanistan?

 
Take your choice. 

Since you responded to that post though, care to explain why you find adultery to be worse than contributing to/covering up the deaths of people, specifically Americans? 


 
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Adultery is comparable to speeding in your eyes?

I'd love to hear how you could justify that one.

I used to own a bullet bike. Sold it less than 6 months ago. I'm not gonna tell you I'm not a speeder.

I actually think there are some creative things they could do short of prosecution that would eventually curtail the epidemic significantly. I'm talking about asset being proportionally divided after divorce if infidelity is proven to a strict standard.

I wish it were more socially unaccepted but based on your attitude towards it its like walking the dog and thats sad that a commitment between two people is as strong as a wet paper sack...whatever.

Your Nazi's comparison on the other thread is pathetic so we just have to disagree. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:

 
Take your choice. 

Since you responded to that post though, care to explain why you find adultery to be worse than contributing to/covering up the deaths of people, specifically Americans? 



I think, no I know you took my statement out of context so I'll break it down again for you.

I was implying that adultery is the biggest lie a person could tell. You pounced on it because you seem to think a lie is bigger if more ears witness it. It's debatable. Perhaps I should modify my statement for your brain to process it...here goes...The biggest lie the average person can tell is regarding being faithful to ones spouse.

There, I gave you wiggle room so you're free to cheat on your girlfriend or whatever.
 
 
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Interesting that you're in favor of prosecuting adultery though. There are a group of people who very much agree with you on that...Islamic extremists....Well Muslims in general by definition but I'm sure not all of them feel like throwing stones at each others heads. They are very much in favor of prosecuting adultery. 



Are you quite sure that you want to lump me in with those that believe infidelity should be punished by death even though I have never even remotely hinted anything close.

You say you're not a liberal but that is a play from the liberal playbook.
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