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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2018 - 1:06 PM ET #1

    The President has pardoned 63 year old Alice Johnson who was serving an unjust life sentence for NON VIOLENT drug offence peace_5

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    The President has pardoned 63 year old Alice Johnson who was serving an unjust life sentence for NON VIOLENT drug offence peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2018 - 1:17 PM ET #2

    The Left will not be able to take it anymore! Not bad for a racist.

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    The Left will not be able to take it anymore! Not bad for a racist.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2018 - 2:45 PM ET #3

    Don't forget when you know who had a chance to pardon Jack Johnson and refused to do it.

     

    President Trump is a breath of fresh air replacing the same old political nonsense  

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    Don't forget when you know who had a chance to pardon Jack Johnson and refused to do it.

     

    President Trump is a breath of fresh air replacing the same old political nonsense  

     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2018 - 3:36 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

    The President has pardoned 63 year old Alice Johnson who was serving an unjust life sentence for NON VIOLENT drug offence peace_5


    Obama had the chance to pardon Alice Johnson, but she wasn't quite black enough, so he decided against it. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

    The President has pardoned 63 year old Alice Johnson who was serving an unjust life sentence for NON VIOLENT drug offence peace_5


    Obama had the chance to pardon Alice Johnson, but she wasn't quite black enough, so he decided against it. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2018 - 3:41 PM ET #5

    TRUMP could save a bunch of black muslim orphans from a childrens hospital, in a fire that was started by white supremacist Nazis and the media would still find something wrong with it.
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    TRUMP could save a bunch of black muslim orphans from a childrens hospital, in a fire that was started by white supremacist Nazis and the media would still find something wrong with it.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2018 - 6:21 PM ET #6

    You are so right .Good to see you guys are well 
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    You are so right .Good to see you guys are well 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2018 - 8:22 PM ET #7

    Crickets from the left/socialists is all you'll hear.
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    Crickets from the left/socialists is all you'll hear.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2018 - 8:11 AM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

    The President has pardoned 63 year old Alice Johnson who was serving an unjust life sentence for NON VIOLENT drug offence peace_5

    Can ANYONE please explain why Obama refused????
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    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

    The President has pardoned 63 year old Alice Johnson who was serving an unjust life sentence for NON VIOLENT drug offence peace_5

    Can ANYONE please explain why Obama refused????
     
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2018 - 9:12 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    Can ANYONE please explain why Obama refused????

    Because it wasn't dividing enough, and the crime was too petty - so it didn't fit his agenda.....
    Now, had there been video of Miss Johnson circulating on the "news outlets" 24/7 of her being hit by a white cop's nightstick after she held up a liquor store at gunpoint - - QUICK! Someone get Barry O. a fountain pen! And get Kaepernick on his knee, STAT!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    Can ANYONE please explain why Obama refused????

    Because it wasn't dividing enough, and the crime was too petty - so it didn't fit his agenda.....
    Now, had there been video of Miss Johnson circulating on the "news outlets" 24/7 of her being hit by a white cop's nightstick after she held up a liquor store at gunpoint - - QUICK! Someone get Barry O. a fountain pen! And get Kaepernick on his knee, STAT!!!!!
     
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2018 - 11:12 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    Can ANYONE please explain why Obama refused????

    first, she wasn't pardoned, her sentence was commuted.  second, it's highly unlikely that obama ever made a decision on her because if she didn't meet the qualifications, her application would have never reached him. the way obama and other presidents to this is to set up a process where people can apply for clemency.  then the application goes through a process administered by the DOJ to determine if the person meets the qualifications established for clemency. if the person does not meet those qualifications, the application is rejected at that level. if the person does meet those qualifications, then the president makes the final decision. 

    the system of course isn't perfect but they get a shitload of applications and a system needs to be set up to handle those requests.  if the president had to review every one, he would spend much of his time doing that. also, the system is set up so pardons aren't handed out just to people with money or political or celebrity connections like the f*cking buffoon currently residing in the white house does it. 

    obama pardoned a lot of nonviolent drug offenders and of course got sh*t for it from the fox news idiots who have no idea how the process works. the DOJ rejected a pardon for this lady before it got to obama and obama gets sh*t for that.  but we all know that's how it works with obama.

    that being said, obama could have and should have set up a system where more people, such as this lady, would qualify for a pardon.  trump should get some credit for pardoning this lady regardless of his motives.  but, there are a ton more people serving long prison sentences for nonviolent drug offenses that we pay a lot of money so they can sit in jail.  these people don't have celebrity or political connections.  let's see if the idiot pardons or commutes the sentences of those people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    Can ANYONE please explain why Obama refused????

    first, she wasn't pardoned, her sentence was commuted.  second, it's highly unlikely that obama ever made a decision on her because if she didn't meet the qualifications, her application would have never reached him. the way obama and other presidents to this is to set up a process where people can apply for clemency.  then the application goes through a process administered by the DOJ to determine if the person meets the qualifications established for clemency. if the person does not meet those qualifications, the application is rejected at that level. if the person does meet those qualifications, then the president makes the final decision. 

    the system of course isn't perfect but they get a shitload of applications and a system needs to be set up to handle those requests.  if the president had to review every one, he would spend much of his time doing that. also, the system is set up so pardons aren't handed out just to people with money or political or celebrity connections like the f*cking buffoon currently residing in the white house does it. 

    obama pardoned a lot of nonviolent drug offenders and of course got sh*t for it from the fox news idiots who have no idea how the process works. the DOJ rejected a pardon for this lady before it got to obama and obama gets sh*t for that.  but we all know that's how it works with obama.

    that being said, obama could have and should have set up a system where more people, such as this lady, would qualify for a pardon.  trump should get some credit for pardoning this lady regardless of his motives.  but, there are a ton more people serving long prison sentences for nonviolent drug offenses that we pay a lot of money so they can sit in jail.  these people don't have celebrity or political connections.  let's see if the idiot pardons or commutes the sentences of those people.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2018 - 11:30 AM ET #11

    Look at all these phony little piglets coming out of the woodwork to support a black woman convicted of drug conspiracy.

    Your acting like Piggy cured cancer. She was found guilty, did her time & now he's commuted her sentence. She is & always be guilty. Nothing is going to change that.

    We all know he will abuse his pardon power like Clinton did with one of his supporters Marc Rich.

    To speak in language you can understand this is a "Nothingburger."  

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    Look at all these phony little piglets coming out of the woodwork to support a black woman convicted of drug conspiracy.

    Your acting like Piggy cured cancer. She was found guilty, did her time & now he's commuted her sentence. She is & always be guilty. Nothing is going to change that.

    We all know he will abuse his pardon power like Clinton did with one of his supporters Marc Rich.

    To speak in language you can understand this is a "Nothingburger."  

     
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2018 - 1:32 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:


    first, she wasn't pardoned, her sentence was commuted.  second, it's highly unlikely that obama ever made a decision on her because if she didn't meet the qualifications, her application would have never reached him. the way obama and other presidents to this is to set up a process where people can apply for clemency.  then the application goes through a process administered by the DOJ to determine if the person meets the qualifications established for clemency. if the person does not meet those qualifications, the application is rejected at that level. if the person does meet those qualifications, then the president makes the final decision. 


    Hogwash...Elephant ears had no problem commuting the prison sentence of Chelsea Manning, who leaking secret diplomatic and military documents..including sensitive Army documents related to the Iraq War.....while over-riding the Secretary of Defense as well as top U.S. Army leaders who recommended against Obama's commutation..

    .......and commuting the sentence of terrorist Oscar Lopez Rivera.a member of the Puerto Rican nationalist group Armed Forces of National Liberation that was responsible for many bombing deaths in the U.S. ..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:


    first, she wasn't pardoned, her sentence was commuted.  second, it's highly unlikely that obama ever made a decision on her because if she didn't meet the qualifications, her application would have never reached him. the way obama and other presidents to this is to set up a process where people can apply for clemency.  then the application goes through a process administered by the DOJ to determine if the person meets the qualifications established for clemency. if the person does not meet those qualifications, the application is rejected at that level. if the person does meet those qualifications, then the president makes the final decision. 


    Hogwash...Elephant ears had no problem commuting the prison sentence of Chelsea Manning, who leaking secret diplomatic and military documents..including sensitive Army documents related to the Iraq War.....while over-riding the Secretary of Defense as well as top U.S. Army leaders who recommended against Obama's commutation..

    .......and commuting the sentence of terrorist Oscar Lopez Rivera.a member of the Puerto Rican nationalist group Armed Forces of National Liberation that was responsible for many bombing deaths in the U.S. ..........

     
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2018 - 1:49 PM ET #13

    Lefties just hate to be p*nus slapped with the truth.
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    Lefties just hate to be p*nus slapped with the truth.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:


    Hogwash...Elephant ears had no problem commuting the prison sentence of Chelsea Manning, who leaking secret diplomatic and military documents..including sensitive Army documents related to the Iraq War.....while over-riding the Secretary of Defense as well as top U.S. Army leaders who recommended against Obama's commutation..

    .......and commuting the sentence of terrorist Oscar Lopez Rivera.a member of the Puerto Rican nationalist group Armed Forces of National Liberation that was responsible for many bombing deaths in the U.S. ..........


    this, as expected given the state of this forum these days, has nothing to do with what i wrote. both of those cases involved formal applications for clemency that went through the process (that, of course has nothing to do with the secretary of defense) and resulted in approval.  otherwise, i have no idea what your post has to do with anything i said or the question sportsnetwork asked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:


    Hogwash...Elephant ears had no problem commuting the prison sentence of Chelsea Manning, who leaking secret diplomatic and military documents..including sensitive Army documents related to the Iraq War.....while over-riding the Secretary of Defense as well as top U.S. Army leaders who recommended against Obama's commutation..

    .......and commuting the sentence of terrorist Oscar Lopez Rivera.a member of the Puerto Rican nationalist group Armed Forces of National Liberation that was responsible for many bombing deaths in the U.S. ..........


    this, as expected given the state of this forum these days, has nothing to do with what i wrote. both of those cases involved formal applications for clemency that went through the process (that, of course has nothing to do with the secretary of defense) and resulted in approval.  otherwise, i have no idea what your post has to do with anything i said or the question sportsnetwork asked.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2018 - 4:53 PM ET #15

    That Oscar Lopez Rivera commute was everything you needed to know about President Blowhard. 

     

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    That Oscar Lopez Rivera commute was everything you needed to know about President Blowhard. 

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2018 - 5:38 PM ET #16

    Nothing worse than Obama sympathizers.
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    Nothing worse than Obama sympathizers.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2018 - 5:52 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Nothing worse than Obama sympathizers.

    Nothing Sundance ..even a Hillary sympathizer is better than an Obama one..


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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Nothing worse than Obama sympathizers.

    Nothing Sundance ..even a Hillary sympathizer is better than an Obama one..


     
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2018 - 6:21 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Lefties just hate to be p*nus slapped with the truth.

    I was going to put it a little more softly, just in case these ANTIFA members needed to go crying into their "Comfort Turtle", but O.K.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Lefties just hate to be p*nus slapped with the truth.

    I was going to put it a little more softly, just in case these ANTIFA members needed to go crying into their "Comfort Turtle", but O.K.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:


    first, she wasn't pardoned, her sentence was commuted.  second, it's highly unlikely that obama ever made a decision on her because if she didn't meet the qualifications, her application would have never reached him. the way obama and other presidents to this is to set up a process where people can apply for clemency.  then the application goes through a process administered by the DOJ to determine if the person meets the qualifications established for clemency. if the person does not meet those qualifications, the application is rejected at that level. if the person does meet those qualifications, then the president makes the final decision. 



    "It's highly unlikely"

    conjecture counselor...simply conjecture..
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:


    first, she wasn't pardoned, her sentence was commuted.  second, it's highly unlikely that obama ever made a decision on her because if she didn't meet the qualifications, her application would have never reached him. the way obama and other presidents to this is to set up a process where people can apply for clemency.  then the application goes through a process administered by the DOJ to determine if the person meets the qualifications established for clemency. if the person does not meet those qualifications, the application is rejected at that level. if the person does meet those qualifications, then the president makes the final decision. 



    "It's highly unlikely"

    conjecture counselor...simply conjecture..
     
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2018 - 9:00 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:


    first, she wasn't pardoned, her sentence was commuted.  second, it's highly unlikely that obama ever made a decision on her because if she didn't meet the qualifications, her application would have never reached him. the way obama and other presidents to this is to set up a process where people can apply for clemency.  then the application goes through a process administered by the DOJ to determine if the person meets the qualifications established for clemency. if the person does not meet those qualifications, the application is rejected at that level. if the person does meet those qualifications, then the president makes the final decision. 

    the system of course isn't perfect but they get a shitload of applications and a system needs to be set up to handle those requests.  if the president had to review every one, he would spend much of his time doing that. also, the system is set up so pardons aren't handed out just to people with money or political or celebrity connections like the f*cking buffoon currently residing in the white house does it. 

    obama pardoned a lot of nonviolent drug offenders and of course got sh*t for it from the fox news idiots who have no idea how the process works. the DOJ rejected a pardon for this lady before it got to obama and obama gets sh*t for that.  but we all know that's how it works with obama.

    that being said, obama could have and should have set up a system where more people, such as this lady, would qualify for a pardon.  trump should get some credit for pardoning this lady regardless of his motives.  but, there are a ton more people serving long prison sentences for nonviolent drug offenses that we pay a lot of money so they can sit in jail.  these people don't have celebrity or political connections.  let's see if the idiot pardons or commutes the sentences of those people.



    One of your worst posts ever.  You should be embarrassed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:


    first, she wasn't pardoned, her sentence was commuted.  second, it's highly unlikely that obama ever made a decision on her because if she didn't meet the qualifications, her application would have never reached him. the way obama and other presidents to this is to set up a process where people can apply for clemency.  then the application goes through a process administered by the DOJ to determine if the person meets the qualifications established for clemency. if the person does not meet those qualifications, the application is rejected at that level. if the person does meet those qualifications, then the president makes the final decision. 

    the system of course isn't perfect but they get a shitload of applications and a system needs to be set up to handle those requests.  if the president had to review every one, he would spend much of his time doing that. also, the system is set up so pardons aren't handed out just to people with money or political or celebrity connections like the f*cking buffoon currently residing in the white house does it. 

    obama pardoned a lot of nonviolent drug offenders and of course got sh*t for it from the fox news idiots who have no idea how the process works. the DOJ rejected a pardon for this lady before it got to obama and obama gets sh*t for that.  but we all know that's how it works with obama.

    that being said, obama could have and should have set up a system where more people, such as this lady, would qualify for a pardon.  trump should get some credit for pardoning this lady regardless of his motives.  but, there are a ton more people serving long prison sentences for nonviolent drug offenses that we pay a lot of money so they can sit in jail.  these people don't have celebrity or political connections.  let's see if the idiot pardons or commutes the sentences of those people.



    One of your worst posts ever.  You should be embarrassed.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2018 - 11:41 PM ET #21

    Little piglets have someone read this thread back to you.

    How did  this go from Piggy issuing a pardon, to President O, to traitor Chelsea, to piglets getting hosed down , to insulting the ears of a former President, to assume any piglet knows who Rivera is ,to getting my hugeee pecker whacked , to thinking President O needs sympathizers, to ANTiFA.

    So from a totally objective point of view......R U OUTTA YOUR DAMN MINDS???

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    Little piglets have someone read this thread back to you.

    How did  this go from Piggy issuing a pardon, to President O, to traitor Chelsea, to piglets getting hosed down , to insulting the ears of a former President, to assume any piglet knows who Rivera is ,to getting my hugeee pecker whacked , to thinking President O needs sympathizers, to ANTiFA.

    So from a totally objective point of view......R U OUTTA YOUR DAMN MINDS???

     
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    Posted: Jun. 8, 2018 - 4:06 AM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:


    first, she wasn't pardoned, her sentence was commuted.  second, it's highly unlikely that obama ever made a decision on her because if she didn't meet the qualifications, her application would have never reached him. the way obama and other presidents to this is to set up a process where people can apply for clemency.  then the application goes through a process administered by the DOJ to determine if the person meets the qualifications established for clemency. if the person does not meet those qualifications, the application is rejected at that level. if the person does meet those qualifications, then the president makes the final decision. 

    the system of course isn't perfect but they get a shitload of applications and a system needs to be set up to handle those requests.  if the president had to review every one, he would spend much of his time doing that. also, the system is set up so pardons aren't handed out just to people with money or political or celebrity connections like the f*cking buffoon currently residing in the white house does it. 

    obama pardoned a lot of nonviolent drug offenders and of course got sh*t for it from the fox news idiots who have no idea how the process works. the DOJ rejected a pardon for this lady before it got to obama and obama gets sh*t for that.  but we all know that's how it works with obama.

    that being said, obama could have and should have set up a system where more people, such as this lady, would qualify for a pardon.  trump should get some credit for pardoning this lady regardless of his motives.  but, there are a ton more people serving long prison sentences for nonviolent drug offenses that we pay a lot of money so they can sit in jail.  these people don't have celebrity or political connections.  let's see if the idiot pardons or commutes the sentences of those people.
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:


    first, she wasn't pardoned, her sentence was commuted.  second, it's highly unlikely that obama ever made a decision on her because if she didn't meet the qualifications, her application would have never reached him. the way obama and other presidents to this is to set up a process where people can apply for clemency.  then the application goes through a process administered by the DOJ to determine if the person meets the qualifications established for clemency. if the person does not meet those qualifications, the application is rejected at that level. if the person does meet those qualifications, then the president makes the final decision. 

    the system of course isn't perfect but they get a shitload of applications and a system needs to be set up to handle those requests.  if the president had to review every one, he would spend much of his time doing that. also, the system is set up so pardons aren't handed out just to people with money or political or celebrity connections like the f*cking buffoon currently residing in the white house does it. 

    obama pardoned a lot of nonviolent drug offenders and of course got sh*t for it from the fox news idiots who have no idea how the process works. the DOJ rejected a pardon for this lady before it got to obama and obama gets sh*t for that.  but we all know that's how it works with obama.

    that being said, obama could have and should have set up a system where more people, such as this lady, would qualify for a pardon.  trump should get some credit for pardoning this lady regardless of his motives.  but, there are a ton more people serving long prison sentences for nonviolent drug offenses that we pay a lot of money so they can sit in jail.  these people don't have celebrity or political connections.  let's see if the idiot pardons or commutes the sentences of those people.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 8, 2018 - 4:12 AM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by 165yds:

    One of your worst posts ever.  You should be embarrassed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 165yds:

    One of your worst posts ever.  You should be embarrassed.


     
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    Posted: Jun. 8, 2018 - 4:14 AM ET #24

    Not sure about the "worst" characterization..

    The lengths to defend Curious George are fascinating...
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    Not sure about the "worst" characterization..

    The lengths to defend Curious George are fascinating...
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 8, 2018 - 5:30 PM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:


    Hogwash...Elephant ears had no problem commuting the prison sentence of Chelsea Manning, who leaking secret diplomatic and military documents..including sensitive Army documents related to the Iraq War.....while over-riding the Secretary of Defense as well as top U.S. Army leaders who recommended against Obama's commutation..

    .......and commuting the sentence of terrorist Oscar Lopez Rivera.a member of the Puerto Rican nationalist group Armed Forces of National Liberation that was responsible for many bombing deaths in the U.S. ..........



    IF Casper Weinberger and the other traitors who sold guns to Iran could be pardoned  ....


    Former Defense Secretary Weinberger and six other defendants were involved in the transfer of U.S. anti-tank missiles to Iran in what became known as the Iran-Contra Affair. Weinberger was charged with lying to the independent counsel after he resigned in 1987. But the pardon by President George H.W. Bush essentially halted the legal proceedings against Weinberger and his fellow defendants, as well as against Bush himself, who could have been called to testify as a former member of the Reagan administration. Independent council Lawrence Walsh, who had been investigating the affair, disapproved of the pardon, saying: "The Iran-Contra coverup... has now been completed."


    A little over a year after he resigned in the wake of Watergate, Richard Nixon received a highly controversial pardon from President Gerald Ford. 
    Ford, however, may have also written his own end, politically speaking. Many believe the Nixon pardon was the reason he lost the 1976 election to Georgia Governor Jimmy Carter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:


    Hogwash...Elephant ears had no problem commuting the prison sentence of Chelsea Manning, who leaking secret diplomatic and military documents..including sensitive Army documents related to the Iraq War.....while over-riding the Secretary of Defense as well as top U.S. Army leaders who recommended against Obama's commutation..

    .......and commuting the sentence of terrorist Oscar Lopez Rivera.a member of the Puerto Rican nationalist group Armed Forces of National Liberation that was responsible for many bombing deaths in the U.S. ..........



    IF Casper Weinberger and the other traitors who sold guns to Iran could be pardoned  ....


    Former Defense Secretary Weinberger and six other defendants were involved in the transfer of U.S. anti-tank missiles to Iran in what became known as the Iran-Contra Affair. Weinberger was charged with lying to the independent counsel after he resigned in 1987. But the pardon by President George H.W. Bush essentially halted the legal proceedings against Weinberger and his fellow defendants, as well as against Bush himself, who could have been called to testify as a former member of the Reagan administration. Independent council Lawrence Walsh, who had been investigating the affair, disapproved of the pardon, saying: "The Iran-Contra coverup... has now been completed."


    A little over a year after he resigned in the wake of Watergate, Richard Nixon received a highly controversial pardon from President Gerald Ford. 
    Ford, however, may have also written his own end, politically speaking. Many believe the Nixon pardon was the reason he lost the 1976 election to Georgia Governor Jimmy Carter.

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