i guess i should also say this having talked at length to my share of pedo victims. pedophilia is bad. really bad. in case that's not clear any more in trump's america. but it really f*cks these kids up badly. that and it is brutal for them to go through the sh*t they go through when they do make any sort of allegation. i wouldn't blame any of these people for never mentioning a word. it's just a bad situation all around.
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i guess i should also say this having talked at length to my share of pedo victims. pedophilia is bad. really bad. in case that's not clear any more in trump's america. but it really f*cks these kids up badly. that and it is brutal for them to go through the sh*t they go through when they do make any sort of allegation. i wouldn't blame any of these people for never mentioning a word. it's just a bad situation all around.
these are the hardest cases for prosecutors to prove and it's hell on these victims. but again, having talked to my share of these victims, it's brutal reporting these things when the perpetrator is just some dude. nothing good ever comes from it for these girls. sometimes, they get to see someone go to prison but the damage to them is done. it has to be much worse when the perpetrator is someone in power like a prosecutor or judge.
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right, people can believe what they want.
these are the hardest cases for prosecutors to prove and it's hell on these victims. but again, having talked to my share of these victims, it's brutal reporting these things when the perpetrator is just some dude. nothing good ever comes from it for these girls. sometimes, they get to see someone go to prison but the damage to them is done. it has to be much worse when the perpetrator is someone in power like a prosecutor or judge.
talking to these victims, i've never once thought of it as a weapon because it's such a brutal experience for them. and to do it on a national stage and have to experience all of the sh*t they have to experience. especially these days when people are nuts and sh*t spreads all over the world in seconds on the internet.i can't even comprehend that.
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talking to these victims, i've never once thought of it as a weapon because it's such a brutal experience for them. and to do it on a national stage and have to experience all of the sh*t they have to experience. especially these days when people are nuts and sh*t spreads all over the world in seconds on the internet.i can't even comprehend that.
We’re not talking about the victims you have talked to. This is a different situation. This is politics and smear campaigns are not only possible, they’re probable.
You never answered my question. Do you think operatives within the Democratic Party are above this kind of behavior?
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We’re not talking about the victims you have talked to. This is a different situation. This is politics and smear campaigns are not only possible, they’re probable.
You never answered my question. Do you think operatives within the Democratic Party are above this kind of behavior?
it's all fun and games when pedos stay in their own pedo states but now he'll making decisions that affect everyone.
The error of your logic is pedos can't help themselves. How can you explain not one accusation in last 35 years? If this man is the sick animal he's been accused of by a press that currently has a heavy bias, how did he stop the behavior? Nobody has come forward saying he hangs out at schoolyards, teen centers, etc in the last 35 years. Maybe you wish to live in a country that accusations from 40 odd years ago are enough with no charges and obviously no trial but I don't. The democrats are so desperate to stop the country from succeeding it's disgraceful. The ends justify the means right dirt?
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Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:
because he's just now running for the senate.
it's all fun and games when pedos stay in their own pedo states but now he'll making decisions that affect everyone.
The error of your logic is pedos can't help themselves. How can you explain not one accusation in last 35 years? If this man is the sick animal he's been accused of by a press that currently has a heavy bias, how did he stop the behavior? Nobody has come forward saying he hangs out at schoolyards, teen centers, etc in the last 35 years. Maybe you wish to live in a country that accusations from 40 odd years ago are enough with no charges and obviously no trial but I don't. The democrats are so desperate to stop the country from succeeding it's disgraceful. The ends justify the means right dirt?
The RNC must have seen the polls...they are getting back into the Alabama Senate race........
The Republican National Committee will transfer $$$ to the Alabama
Republican Party following President Donald Trump’s endorsement Monday
of GOP Senate candidate Roy Moore ....
RNC official:"The RNC is the political arm of the president and we support the President.”.......
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The RNC must have seen the polls...they are getting back into the Alabama Senate race........
The Republican National Committee will transfer $$$ to the Alabama
Republican Party following President Donald Trump’s endorsement Monday
of GOP Senate candidate Roy Moore ....
RNC official:"The RNC is the political arm of the president and we support the President.”.......
Donald J Trump who has been accused by a dozen of women for sexual assaults or misconducts during last year's presidential campaign but still won the US Presidency. So why not Roy Moore winning this Alabama Special Election, also Alabama Governor Kay Ivey plans to vote for Moore in November. And Alabama appears to be a really deep red state, it also improves Moore's chance, tremendously.
DoubleUp4Life, It seems not how we rationalize the politics in this country by common sense, political ideology plays key bias role in this nation's politics, essentially and unfortunately as it does.
Donald J Trump beats Roy Moore in terms of number of sexual assault or harassment accusations, 13 to 9, and Donny still got elected to the US President. As long as they all denied those sex allegations, they are just be perfectly fine.
And Moore gets Donny's full court endorsement today, I really like my chances on Dec. 12. Unless most Alabamians believe in those women and vote for Doug Jones on Dec. 12, then I will have to concede my play wrong but I really doubt it.
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Quote Originally Posted by Europa:
Donald J Trump who has been accused by a dozen of women for sexual assaults or misconducts during last year's presidential campaign but still won the US Presidency. So why not Roy Moore winning this Alabama Special Election, also Alabama Governor Kay Ivey plans to vote for Moore in November. And Alabama appears to be a really deep red state, it also improves Moore's chance, tremendously.
DoubleUp4Life, It seems not how we rationalize the politics in this country by common sense, political ideology plays key bias role in this nation's politics, essentially and unfortunately as it does.
Donald J Trump beats Roy Moore in terms of number of sexual assault or harassment accusations, 13 to 9, and Donny still got elected to the US President. As long as they all denied those sex allegations, they are just be perfectly fine.
And Moore gets Donny's full court endorsement today, I really like my chances on Dec. 12. Unless most Alabamians believe in those women and vote for Doug Jones on Dec. 12, then I will have to concede my play wrong but I really doubt it.
The RNC must have seen the polls...they are getting back into the Alabama Senate race........
The Republican National Committee will transfer $$$ to the Alabama
Republican Party following President Donald Trump’s endorsement Monday
of GOP Senate candidate Roy Moore ....
RNC official:"The RNC is the political arm of the president and we support the President.”.......
Moore is being outspent 10-1 on the campaign trail.
As for what he is being accused of, I tend to believe the accusations ... but as others have said, they are from 40 years ago, and there are some holes in the stories of the alleged victims, and the timing of it is suspect.
Anyone who makes a firm stand on Moore's innocence or guilt is simply taking a biased view of it.
bigreds daddy
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:
The RNC must have seen the polls...they are getting back into the Alabama Senate race........
The Republican National Committee will transfer $$$ to the Alabama
Republican Party following President Donald Trump’s endorsement Monday
of GOP Senate candidate Roy Moore ....
RNC official:"The RNC is the political arm of the president and we support the President.”.......
Moore is being outspent 10-1 on the campaign trail.
As for what he is being accused of, I tend to believe the accusations ... but as others have said, they are from 40 years ago, and there are some holes in the stories of the alleged victims, and the timing of it is suspect.
Anyone who makes a firm stand on Moore's innocence or guilt is simply taking a biased view of it.
QUOTE Originally Posted by ClubDirt: because he's just now running for the senate. it's all fun and games when pedos stay in their own pedo states but now he'll making decisions that affect everyone. The error of your logic is pedos can't help themselves. How can you explain not one accusation in last 35 years? If this man is the sick animal he's been accused of by a press that currently has a heavy bias, how did he stop the behavior? Nobody has come forward saying he hangs out at schoolyards, teen centers, etc in the last 35 years. Maybe you wish to live in a country that accusations from 40 odd years ago are enough with no charges and obviously no trial but I don't. The democrats are so desperate to stop the country from succeeding it's disgraceful. The ends justify the means right dirt?
detox, i'm not getting into conspiracy theories. bad enough we spend this much time talking about pedophilia. i'll stick with things i know or am pretty certain of.
killer, pedos can and do stop themselves. i've handled more pedo cases than i wish i had (not a ton but enough of them). every one i've handled is a first time offender. not saying they'd never done it before but it had never been reported and they'd never been convicted. probably because these are rarely reported because it's such a shitshow for the victims. which goes to your question of why more people haven't reported on moore. but several have. how many do you need? also, wasn't there a cop who confirmed they had to ban this pedo from the mall? i thought you guys believed cops.
and none of the pedos i've dealt with have reoffended, or at least been reported to have reoffended. they do have classes and therapy and other conditions to keep these people from reoffending. my guess is, and this is a guess, but based on experience with these people, none of them are cured of this pedo disease but most don't reoffend.
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Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:
QUOTE Originally Posted by ClubDirt: because he's just now running for the senate. it's all fun and games when pedos stay in their own pedo states but now he'll making decisions that affect everyone. The error of your logic is pedos can't help themselves. How can you explain not one accusation in last 35 years? If this man is the sick animal he's been accused of by a press that currently has a heavy bias, how did he stop the behavior? Nobody has come forward saying he hangs out at schoolyards, teen centers, etc in the last 35 years. Maybe you wish to live in a country that accusations from 40 odd years ago are enough with no charges and obviously no trial but I don't. The democrats are so desperate to stop the country from succeeding it's disgraceful. The ends justify the means right dirt?
detox, i'm not getting into conspiracy theories. bad enough we spend this much time talking about pedophilia. i'll stick with things i know or am pretty certain of.
killer, pedos can and do stop themselves. i've handled more pedo cases than i wish i had (not a ton but enough of them). every one i've handled is a first time offender. not saying they'd never done it before but it had never been reported and they'd never been convicted. probably because these are rarely reported because it's such a shitshow for the victims. which goes to your question of why more people haven't reported on moore. but several have. how many do you need? also, wasn't there a cop who confirmed they had to ban this pedo from the mall? i thought you guys believed cops.
and none of the pedos i've dealt with have reoffended, or at least been reported to have reoffended. they do have classes and therapy and other conditions to keep these people from reoffending. my guess is, and this is a guess, but based on experience with these people, none of them are cured of this pedo disease but most don't reoffend.
What’s the conspiracy theory, that Moore did it or that Moore didn’t do it?
post 31. whether democratic "operatives" were able to convince however many of these women have come forward and go through the hell these people go through to try and help a democrat win a senate race in a state a democrat has no chance of winning.
i'll let you guys discuss that one.
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Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:
What’s the conspiracy theory, that Moore did it or that Moore didn’t do it?
post 31. whether democratic "operatives" were able to convince however many of these women have come forward and go through the hell these people go through to try and help a democrat win a senate race in a state a democrat has no chance of winning.
also, wasn't there a cop who confirmed they had to ban this pedo from the mall? i thought you guys believed cops.
ClubDirt, you of all people should not believe hearsay ..and put it out there as evidence.
Many people do believe police officers,but not rumors and anonymous sources....
The former manager of the Gadsden Mal (from 1981 to 1998),, Barnes Boyle, told local TV station
WBRC late last week that Moore was never banned from the mall.
“It was part of the job, yeah, we did have written reports and things
(on people banned,“To my knowledge he (Moore) was not banned from the mall.”
TheNew Yorker
magazine ran a story citing rumors that Moore had been banned, finally
conceding, “We cannot confirm that,” in regard to the magazine’s
charges.
Even the left-wing Snopes.com contacted mall officials, who told them that they do not have any records that date back that far.
There is enough stuff out there about Judge Roy Moore .....no need to add supposition and gossip to the mix..
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Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:
also, wasn't there a cop who confirmed they had to ban this pedo from the mall? i thought you guys believed cops.
ClubDirt, you of all people should not believe hearsay ..and put it out there as evidence.
Many people do believe police officers,but not rumors and anonymous sources....
The former manager of the Gadsden Mal (from 1981 to 1998),, Barnes Boyle, told local TV station
WBRC late last week that Moore was never banned from the mall.
“It was part of the job, yeah, we did have written reports and things
(on people banned,“To my knowledge he (Moore) was not banned from the mall.”
TheNew Yorker
magazine ran a story citing rumors that Moore had been banned, finally
conceding, “We cannot confirm that,” in regard to the magazine’s
charges.
Even the left-wing Snopes.com contacted mall officials, who told them that they do not have any records that date back that far.
There is enough stuff out there about Judge Roy Moore .....no need to add supposition and gossip to the mix..
ClubDirt, you of all people should not believe hearsay ..and put it out there as evidence.
Many people do believe police officers,but not rumors and anonymous sources....
The former manager of the Gadsden Mal (from 1981 to 1998),, Barnes Boyle, told local TV station
WBRC late last week that Moore was never banned from the mall.
“It was part of the job, yeah, we did have written reports and things
(on people banned,“To my knowledge he (Moore) was not banned from the mall.”
TheNew Yorker
magazine ran a story citing rumors that Moore had been banned, finally
conceding, “We cannot confirm that,” in regard to the magazine’s
charges.
Even the left-wing Snopes.com contacted mall officials, who told them that they do not have any records that date back that far.
There is enough stuff out there about Judge Roy Moore .....no need to add supposition and gossip to the mix..
i was just asking. i haven't followed this one too closely.
also, don't believe cops, most of the time. that's my advice to you all.
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:
ClubDirt, you of all people should not believe hearsay ..and put it out there as evidence.
Many people do believe police officers,but not rumors and anonymous sources....
The former manager of the Gadsden Mal (from 1981 to 1998),, Barnes Boyle, told local TV station
WBRC late last week that Moore was never banned from the mall.
“It was part of the job, yeah, we did have written reports and things
(on people banned,“To my knowledge he (Moore) was not banned from the mall.”
TheNew Yorker
magazine ran a story citing rumors that Moore had been banned, finally
conceding, “We cannot confirm that,” in regard to the magazine’s
charges.
Even the left-wing Snopes.com contacted mall officials, who told them that they do not have any records that date back that far.
There is enough stuff out there about Judge Roy Moore .....no need to add supposition and gossip to the mix..
i was just asking. i haven't followed this one too closely.
also, don't believe cops, most of the time. that's my advice to you all.
IF you have handled and been involved with this topic why do you keep deflecting denying and redefining the word pedophile? Also if the age of consent is 16 in a state there is nothing wrong with someone in their 3-'s or older having relations with that individual
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IF you have handled and been involved with this topic why do you keep deflecting denying and redefining the word pedophile? Also if the age of consent is 16 in a state there is nothing wrong with someone in their 3-'s or older having relations with that individual
IF you have handled and been involved with this topic why do you keep deflecting denying and redefining the word pedophile? Also if the age of consent is 16 in a state there is nothing wrong with someone in their 3-'s or older having relations with that individual
I get your point...I think. But I think you mean there is nothing illegal about it. I think a lot of folks would tell you they feel something for sure is wrong with it. It would be different if 19/20, but 30/40?
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Quote Originally Posted by the1toturn2:
IF you have handled and been involved with this topic why do you keep deflecting denying and redefining the word pedophile? Also if the age of consent is 16 in a state there is nothing wrong with someone in their 3-'s or older having relations with that individual
I get your point...I think. But I think you mean there is nothing illegal about it. I think a lot of folks would tell you they feel something for sure is wrong with it. It would be different if 19/20, but 30/40?
IF you have handled and been involved with this topic why do you keep deflecting denying and redefining the word pedophile? Also if the age of consent is 16 in a state there is nothing wrong with someone in their 3-'s or older having relations with that individual
It may be legal but it's not right, I would think most of society would agree with me! If a 30yr old guy tried messing with my 16yr old daughter I'd be pissed, wouldn't you?
Gotta go pee!
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Quote Originally Posted by the1toturn2:
IF you have handled and been involved with this topic why do you keep deflecting denying and redefining the word pedophile? Also if the age of consent is 16 in a state there is nothing wrong with someone in their 3-'s or older having relations with that individual
It may be legal but it's not right, I would think most of society would agree with me! If a 30yr old guy tried messing with my 16yr old daughter I'd be pissed, wouldn't you?
It may be legal but it's not right, I would think most of society would agree with me! If a 30yr old guy tried messing with my 16yr old daughter I'd be pissed, wouldn't you?
Why would he be upset? Does he even know your daughter?
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Quote Originally Posted by idle_havoc:
It may be legal but it's not right, I would think most of society would agree with me! If a 30yr old guy tried messing with my 16yr old daughter I'd be pissed, wouldn't you?
Why would he be upset? Does he even know your daughter?
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