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    Ron Paul

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    I_Need_A_Detox
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    Posted: May. 1, 2021 - 10:21 PM ET #1

    “Government is limited in how much it can tax the people directly. People ultimately rebel against high taxes.

    So, as an unconstitutional "workaround," government granted a monopoly to The Fed.

    Now if government wants more money, The Fed just prints (i.e., counterfeits) it.

    The people still pay for this, of course; just not directly. It's hidden.

    The people pay when they see rising prices in the marketplace.

    The government then just blame something else as the cause.

    Inflation is the worst tax of them all!”

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    “Government is limited in how much it can tax the people directly. People ultimately rebel against high taxes.

    So, as an unconstitutional "workaround," government granted a monopoly to The Fed.

    Now if government wants more money, The Fed just prints (i.e., counterfeits) it.

    The people still pay for this, of course; just not directly. It's hidden.

    The people pay when they see rising prices in the marketplace.

    The government then just blame something else as the cause.

    Inflation is the worst tax of them all!”

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2021 - 7:55 AM ET #2

    “One thing is clear: The Founding Fathers never intended a nation where citizens would pay nearly half of everything they earn to the government.”

    peace_5

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    “One thing is clear: The Founding Fathers never intended a nation where citizens would pay nearly half of everything they earn to the government.”

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2021 - 10:24 AM ET #3

    All of this is spot on.

    R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
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    All of this is spot on.

     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2021 - 4:35 PM ET #4

    peace_5

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    Posted: May. 3, 2021 - 9:02 AM ET #5

    “Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country and giving it to the rich people of a poor country.” 

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    “Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country and giving it to the rich people of a poor country.” 

     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2021 - 11:36 AM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    “Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country and giving it to the rich people of a poor country.”

    America first is the best policy. What has foreign aid even gotten us. Literally every country in the world hates us.

    R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    “Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country and giving it to the rich people of a poor country.”

    America first is the best policy. What has foreign aid even gotten us. Literally every country in the world hates us.

     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2021 - 1:26 PM ET #7

    We have people living in the streets and eating out of dumpsters here. I think we should take care of them before giving aid to a foreign country.

    Less welfare and more jobs doing the basics around cities like picking up trash, painting over graffiti, and filling pot holes. 

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    We have people living in the streets and eating out of dumpsters here. I think we should take care of them before giving aid to a foreign country.

    Less welfare and more jobs doing the basics around cities like picking up trash, painting over graffiti, and filling pot holes. 

     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2021 - 3:49 PM ET #8

    Tax the Mega rich and stop over taxing the rest of us peons ..

    Murica needs to pay the rest of the world to be our friends ...( been that way for a long long time )

    BEST OF HEALTH, HAPPINESS,WEALTH, BLESSINGS and LUCK TO ALL !!
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    Tax the Mega rich and stop over taxing the rest of us peons ..

    Murica needs to pay the rest of the world to be our friends ...( been that way for a long long time )

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

    Tax the Mega rich and stop over taxing the rest of us peons .. Murica needs to pay the rest of the world to be our friends ...( been that way for a long long time )

    Why do we have to do this though? I mean, it isn't working very well is it? There's no strategic reason for it. We aren't lauded for are humanitarian efforts. The world still thinks we are horrible. China is downright horrible both to the the world and it's own people yet somehow they don't catch nearly the flack we do. I'm all for taxing those who have, fairly and with accountability, even if that includes myself but I am not for sending a dime of that money out of this country.

    R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

    Tax the Mega rich and stop over taxing the rest of us peons .. Murica needs to pay the rest of the world to be our friends ...( been that way for a long long time )

    Why do we have to do this though? I mean, it isn't working very well is it? There's no strategic reason for it. We aren't lauded for are humanitarian efforts. The world still thinks we are horrible. China is downright horrible both to the the world and it's own people yet somehow they don't catch nearly the flack we do. I'm all for taxing those who have, fairly and with accountability, even if that includes myself but I am not for sending a dime of that money out of this country.

     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2021 - 4:25 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

    Tax the Mega rich and stop over taxing the rest of us peons .. Murica needs to pay the rest of the world to be our friends ...( been that way for a long long time )

    You’ve been indoctrinated. 

    Congratulations. 

    peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

    Tax the Mega rich and stop over taxing the rest of us peons .. Murica needs to pay the rest of the world to be our friends ...( been that way for a long long time )

    You’ve been indoctrinated. 

    Congratulations. 

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2021 - 4:28 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

     

    You’ve been indoctrinated. 

    Congratulations.

     

     

    Says the anti-American 9/11 denialist 

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

     

    You’ve been indoctrinated. 

    Congratulations.

     

     

    Says the anti-American 9/11 denialist 

     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2021 - 4:33 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

    Tax the Mega rich and stop over taxing the rest of us peons ..

    Murica needs to pay the rest of the world to be our friends ...( been that way for a long long time )

     

    Excellent point!

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

    Tax the Mega rich and stop over taxing the rest of us peons ..

    Murica needs to pay the rest of the world to be our friends ...( been that way for a long long time )

     

    Excellent point!

     

     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2021 - 5:30 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life: Tax the Mega rich and stop over taxing the rest of us peons .. Murica needs to pay the rest of the world to be our friends ...( been that way for a long long time ) Why do we have to do this though? I mean, it isn't working very well is it? There's no strategic reason for it.

    I see your point, Stu.
    It's a common refrain.
    But I also see the other side.
    America, on this planet, is part of a "global community" - much like you and I and
    even the dumbass conspiracy theory believers are individuals who are part of our
    various local/state/national communities - except on a larger scale.
    Most of us individuals give freely (always or occasionally) to causes/charities in our
    local or greater communities, often to complete strangers to us. We don't HAVE TO,
    but our advanced ideology for humanity, (and/or our FAITH) leads us to accept
    it is the right and good thing to do... helping others in desperate need when we can -
    - even though we could surely keep that money and further our own situation.
    So it is with America in the global community.
                     "There but for the grace of God, go you and I"
    And America under both left and right admins have been doing so for decades.

    Now, we *could* adopt the trumpism philosophy - WIIFM?
    Really?
    Do we want to turn to the "dark side" and refuse donations (even small) to the
    local animal shelter, cancer society, boy scouts, or veterans associations, etc, etc?
    In my experience, only selfish a--holes would even think that way.

    That's the liberal side of me.

    My conservative side wants to help BUT HATES that we give money to feed poor
    underdeveloped countries with millions of starving people which don't (and won't)
    have a means of feeding their own population. It's a bottomless pit. We feed
    10 million starving kids today to keep them alive, and tomorrow we have 15 million
    starving kids holding out their hands, then 20 million, then 25 million, and so on.
    I want aid to to go to help desperate people/countries but ONLY to help them
    develop a means to help themselves.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life: Tax the Mega rich and stop over taxing the rest of us peons .. Murica needs to pay the rest of the world to be our friends ...( been that way for a long long time ) Why do we have to do this though? I mean, it isn't working very well is it? There's no strategic reason for it.

    I see your point, Stu.
    It's a common refrain.
    But I also see the other side.
    America, on this planet, is part of a "global community" - much like you and I and
    even the dumbass conspiracy theory believers are individuals who are part of our
    various local/state/national communities - except on a larger scale.
    Most of us individuals give freely (always or occasionally) to causes/charities in our
    local or greater communities, often to complete strangers to us. We don't HAVE TO,
    but our advanced ideology for humanity, (and/or our FAITH) leads us to accept
    it is the right and good thing to do... helping others in desperate need when we can -
    - even though we could surely keep that money and further our own situation.
    So it is with America in the global community.
                     "There but for the grace of God, go you and I"
    And America under both left and right admins have been doing so for decades.

    Now, we *could* adopt the trumpism philosophy - WIIFM?
    Really?
    Do we want to turn to the "dark side" and refuse donations (even small) to the
    local animal shelter, cancer society, boy scouts, or veterans associations, etc, etc?
    In my experience, only selfish a--holes would even think that way.

    That's the liberal side of me.

    My conservative side wants to help BUT HATES that we give money to feed poor
    underdeveloped countries with millions of starving people which don't (and won't)
    have a means of feeding their own population. It's a bottomless pit. We feed
    10 million starving kids today to keep them alive, and tomorrow we have 15 million
    starving kids holding out their hands, then 20 million, then 25 million, and so on.
    I want aid to to go to help desperate people/countries but ONLY to help them
    develop a means to help themselves.

     

     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2021 - 5:48 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life: Tax the Mega rich and stop over taxing the rest of us peons .. Murica needs to pay the rest of the world to be our friends ...( been that way for a long long time ) You’ve been indoctrinated.  Congratulations.

     

    Says the guy in the Trump Cult an_roll_laugh indoctrinated 

     

    I'll never understand why some people dont think the mega rich should be taxed ....

    BEST OF HEALTH, HAPPINESS,WEALTH, BLESSINGS and LUCK TO ALL !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life: Tax the Mega rich and stop over taxing the rest of us peons .. Murica needs to pay the rest of the world to be our friends ...( been that way for a long long time ) You’ve been indoctrinated.  Congratulations.

     

    Says the guy in the Trump Cult an_roll_laugh indoctrinated 

     

    I'll never understand why some people dont think the mega rich should be taxed ....

     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2021 - 9:10 PM ET #15

    They are taxed. 

    an_timeout

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    They are taxed. 

    an_timeout

     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2021 - 9:16 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life: Tax the Mega rich and stop over taxing the rest of us peons .. Murica needs to pay the rest of the world to be our friends ...( been that way for a long long time ) You’ve been indoctrinated.  Congratulations.

     

     

    Says the guy in the Trump Cult an_roll_laugh indoctrinated 

    I'll never understand why some people dont think the mega rich should be taxed ....

     

    Exactly!

    The adolf-trump tax cuts were BAD for America.  They cost us massive losses in revenues and increased our debt and deficits.

    Taxes should be back to the pre-fascist-trump tax cut for billionaires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life: Tax the Mega rich and stop over taxing the rest of us peons .. Murica needs to pay the rest of the world to be our friends ...( been that way for a long long time ) You’ve been indoctrinated.  Congratulations.

     

     

    Says the guy in the Trump Cult an_roll_laugh indoctrinated 

    I'll never understand why some people dont think the mega rich should be taxed ....

     

    Exactly!

    The adolf-trump tax cuts were BAD for America.  They cost us massive losses in revenues and increased our debt and deficits.

    Taxes should be back to the pre-fascist-trump tax cut for billionaires.

     
     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2021 - 11:44 PM ET #17

    Liberals: the rich should be taxed 

    Reality: under President Trump the top 1% paid a greater share of individual income taxes than the bottom 90% combined

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    Liberals: the rich should be taxed 

    Reality: under President Trump the top 1% paid a greater share of individual income taxes than the bottom 90% combined

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