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    Europa
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    Posted: Sep. 6, 2016 - 10:29 AM ET #601

    HRC's odds of winning presidency have been dropped to -260 from -400 just about few weeks ago. But she still has 66% of beating Trump in Nov. 8 in CNN/Pivit.  
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    HRC's odds of winning presidency have been dropped to -260 from -400 just about few weeks ago. But she still has 66% of beating Trump in Nov. 8 in CNN/Pivit.  
     
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    Posted: Sep. 6, 2016 - 12:13 PM ET #602

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Health conspiracy theories have been debunked by Clinton's doctor stating that she is in excellent physical health and fit to be President.  Her coughing is just seasonal allergy.  No big deal.

    This is not saying much...what else would he say?

    NFL and concussion problems are ripe with conflicts of interest.

    Same with HRC and her doctor.

    You have to remember that Hillary and Bill set goals over 40 years ago and she wants to achieve that goal, desperately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Health conspiracy theories have been debunked by Clinton's doctor stating that she is in excellent physical health and fit to be President.  Her coughing is just seasonal allergy.  No big deal.

    This is not saying much...what else would he say?

    NFL and concussion problems are ripe with conflicts of interest.

    Same with HRC and her doctor.

    You have to remember that Hillary and Bill set goals over 40 years ago and she wants to achieve that goal, desperately.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 6, 2016 - 2:54 PM ET #603

    The race has tightened, but this EV map shows HRC leading 272-174:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/first-read-despite-tightening-clinton-maintains-battleground-lead-n643291
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    The race has tightened, but this EV map shows HRC leading 272-174:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/first-read-despite-tightening-clinton-maintains-battleground-lead-n643291
     
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    Posted: Sep. 6, 2016 - 4:33 PM ET #604

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:

    A new medical study has revealed that HPV is a contributor to lung cancer.
    A person can be infected with HPV through oral sex.

    Hillary has been coughing a lot lately.



     I understand it only effects non-swallorers.....hence the prolonged cough to clear the throat...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:

    A new medical study has revealed that HPV is a contributor to lung cancer.
    A person can be infected with HPV through oral sex.

    Hillary has been coughing a lot lately.



     I understand it only effects non-swallorers.....hence the prolonged cough to clear the throat...
     
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    Posted: Sep. 6, 2016 - 4:54 PM ET #605

    I don't believe any modern candidate who refuses to release his or her tax return can win a general election.  I wanted to start my post by stating that because Trump's refusal to disclose one of them at least is not what I'd call savvy.  There are a few things I suspect his returns would reveal, like he donated less than the 4% Bernie contributed to charity despite earning hundreds of millions more dollars, something that looks extremely hypocritcal when he supposedly cares so much about veterans and others.  He probably does have a lot of debt he incurred as well.  IMO, I don't think he cares about anyone but himself and his family.  It's laughable anyone feels he's in touch with the common person.  That's a joke.

    Secondly, I still don't really see how Trump can win without grabbing most of the battleground states and fighting actual math.  The demographics look bad for him when he is going to record extremely low numbers from Hispanics and black voters.  It's hard for me to guess at the disparity for women but I suspect something like 60/40 or 65-35 in favor of Hillary.  After all of that, he needs a ridiculously high share of white voters, especially men, to vote in his favor to offset the losses in other areas. 

    I haven't felt he can win the election for a couple of months now unless he somehow wins the debates, which I think we all know is unlikely since he doesn't know enough information about the important subjects.  He attempted to defer to his peers in the Republican debates on the finer details for policies.  Yes, I paid close attention and watched virtually all of the debates.  I gain perspective by listening to all sides involved.  That approach isn't going to work this time around.  He is going to have to speak at length about some very difficult subjects that quite frankly he doesn't know enough about.
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    I don't believe any modern candidate who refuses to release his or her tax return can win a general election.  I wanted to start my post by stating that because Trump's refusal to disclose one of them at least is not what I'd call savvy.  There are a few things I suspect his returns would reveal, like he donated less than the 4% Bernie contributed to charity despite earning hundreds of millions more dollars, something that looks extremely hypocritcal when he supposedly cares so much about veterans and others.  He probably does have a lot of debt he incurred as well.  IMO, I don't think he cares about anyone but himself and his family.  It's laughable anyone feels he's in touch with the common person.  That's a joke.

    Secondly, I still don't really see how Trump can win without grabbing most of the battleground states and fighting actual math.  The demographics look bad for him when he is going to record extremely low numbers from Hispanics and black voters.  It's hard for me to guess at the disparity for women but I suspect something like 60/40 or 65-35 in favor of Hillary.  After all of that, he needs a ridiculously high share of white voters, especially men, to vote in his favor to offset the losses in other areas. 

    I haven't felt he can win the election for a couple of months now unless he somehow wins the debates, which I think we all know is unlikely since he doesn't know enough information about the important subjects.  He attempted to defer to his peers in the Republican debates on the finer details for policies.  Yes, I paid close attention and watched virtually all of the debates.  I gain perspective by listening to all sides involved.  That approach isn't going to work this time around.  He is going to have to speak at length about some very difficult subjects that quite frankly he doesn't know enough about.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 6, 2016 - 4:59 PM ET #606

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:




     I understand it only effects non-swallorers.....hence the prolonged cough to clear the throat...


    Truth be told, HRC has been a rabid carpet muncher for the last 20 years or so.  Which I have no problem with, to each his / her / their own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:




     I understand it only effects non-swallorers.....hence the prolonged cough to clear the throat...


    Truth be told, HRC has been a rabid carpet muncher for the last 20 years or so.  Which I have no problem with, to each his / her / their own.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 6, 2016 - 5:08 PM ET #607

    Hillary -200 now, sure hope all you clinton backers saved some money to add to your "lock" position.
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    Hillary -200 now, sure hope all you clinton backers saved some money to add to your "lock" position.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 6, 2016 - 9:44 PM ET #608

    Odds often fluctuate over time but trend still favors Clinton.  According to predictwise graph, gambling markets indicate rising trend for Clinton and declining trend for Trump since 2015.  December shows highest support for Trump and August 2016 for Clinton.  Clinton has always been a strong favourite and is doing better now than Obama in 2012 election. 
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    Odds often fluctuate over time but trend still favors Clinton.  According to predictwise graph, gambling markets indicate rising trend for Clinton and declining trend for Trump since 2015.  December shows highest support for Trump and August 2016 for Clinton.  Clinton has always been a strong favourite and is doing better now than Obama in 2012 election. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 6, 2016 - 10:05 PM ET #609

    Donald Trump pulls ahead of Hillary Clinton by 2 points, 45 vs 43, in the CNN/ORC poll. Great news for Trump supporters, and the betting odds also reflect it accordingly. 

    HRC -230 now at my offshore book, dropped sharply from -400 just about three weeks ago. Could we see HRC drop below -200? Now CNN seems pitching Trump's surging poll, it looks probable with this CNN trend. Heads up, FOX, we could see Trump supporters leaving FOX and gluing on CNN screen.      
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    Donald Trump pulls ahead of Hillary Clinton by 2 points, 45 vs 43, in the CNN/ORC poll. Great news for Trump supporters, and the betting odds also reflect it accordingly. 

    HRC -230 now at my offshore book, dropped sharply from -400 just about three weeks ago. Could we see HRC drop below -200? Now CNN seems pitching Trump's surging poll, it looks probable with this CNN trend. Heads up, FOX, we could see Trump supporters leaving FOX and gluing on CNN screen.      
     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2016 - 2:03 AM ET #610

    Odds of HRC slowly clime back to -250, Obama was around -250 just before the 2012 Election. Two more months to go before Nov. 8, things will get heating up for sure.  
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    Odds of HRC slowly clime back to -250, Obama was around -250 just before the 2012 Election. Two more months to go before Nov. 8, things will get heating up for sure.  
     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2016 - 2:29 AM ET #611

    In previous 8 presidential elections, the candidate that is leading in September polls went on to win.  But polls aren't as reliable as gambling markets in predicting election outcomes.  Also national polls aren't as reliable as State polls.  Vanzack is right about battleground States being the main determinant.
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    In previous 8 presidential elections, the candidate that is leading in September polls went on to win.  But polls aren't as reliable as gambling markets in predicting election outcomes.  Also national polls aren't as reliable as State polls.  Vanzack is right about battleground States being the main determinant.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 11, 2016 - 3:26 PM ET #612

    Van,

    Hillary is now an unbelievable -185 on 5Dimes because she had a hot spell at a 9/11 ceremony where the temp and humidity is unbearable (but of course, it's the 'medical condition' that Fox News has fabricated because their candidate is a joke). Tell me more about Bengazhi and the emails. LOL. Hilarious. It's incredible. Are you taking more now Van?

    Folks, if you do not pound this number on Hillary's side, you are being irresponsible as a gambler. I'm serious. I can't bet the money for you!
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    Van,

    Hillary is now an unbelievable -185 on 5Dimes because she had a hot spell at a 9/11 ceremony where the temp and humidity is unbearable (but of course, it's the 'medical condition' that Fox News has fabricated because their candidate is a joke). Tell me more about Bengazhi and the emails. LOL. Hilarious. It's incredible. Are you taking more now Van?

    Folks, if you do not pound this number on Hillary's side, you are being irresponsible as a gambler. I'm serious. I can't bet the money for you!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 11, 2016 - 5:27 PM ET #613

    Looking for a non-biased point of view: do you think this "fainting" has any impact on her chances, or is it pretty much a non-issue?
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    Looking for a non-biased point of view: do you think this "fainting" has any impact on her chances, or is it pretty much a non-issue?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 11, 2016 - 5:40 PM ET #614

    This happened at 9;30 am ........

    The temperature in New York City on Sunday morning was in the low 80s....82*, with relatively low humidity of around 46% and with a slight breeze..

    Hillary didn’t faint, she collapsed....One report is that Hillary went stiff as a board but was semi-conscious. They couldn’t bend her enough to carry her so, and also for appearances, dragged her to the car.....
    That’s when both her $500 pair of shoes came off.

    Clinton went to her daughter’s apartment some time later and departed shortly after... one reporter asked if she was feeling better. Clinton responded: Yes,but we have to due something about this damn Global Warming..


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    This happened at 9;30 am ........

    The temperature in New York City on Sunday morning was in the low 80s....82*, with relatively low humidity of around 46% and with a slight breeze..

    Hillary didn’t faint, she collapsed....One report is that Hillary went stiff as a board but was semi-conscious. They couldn’t bend her enough to carry her so, and also for appearances, dragged her to the car.....
    That’s when both her $500 pair of shoes came off.

    Clinton went to her daughter’s apartment some time later and departed shortly after... one reporter asked if she was feeling better. Clinton responded: Yes,but we have to due something about this damn Global Warming..


     
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    Posted: Sep. 11, 2016 - 5:42 PM ET #615

    No tangible impact. Electoral math too much to overcome. Pure demographics make the task nearly impossible even with hillary.
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    No tangible impact. Electoral math too much to overcome. Pure demographics make the task nearly impossible even with hillary.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 11, 2016 - 5:43 PM ET #616

    Is Hillary 'dead' money would be the obvious,  deplorable question at this  point in time after her knees buckled in NY. Has this woman ever ran more than a 1/4 mile in her life or did she always have somebody to bail her out like Comey?
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    Is Hillary 'dead' money would be the obvious,  deplorable question at this  point in time after her knees buckled in NY. Has this woman ever ran more than a 1/4 mile in her life or did she always have somebody to bail her out like Comey?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 11, 2016 - 8:57 PM ET #617

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark_The_Narc:

    No tangible impact. Electoral math too much to overcome. Pure demographics make the task nearly impossible even with hillary.
    There's a difference between betting on Hillary to become president, and for the Democratic Party to win the presidency.

    She was just diagnosed with pneumonia and I am reading reports that they may be looking for a replacement to run for president instead of her.

    Do you think that she might actually be replaced by someone like Biden, Sanders or Kaine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark_The_Narc:

    No tangible impact. Electoral math too much to overcome. Pure demographics make the task nearly impossible even with hillary.
    There's a difference between betting on Hillary to become president, and for the Democratic Party to win the presidency.

    She was just diagnosed with pneumonia and I am reading reports that they may be looking for a replacement to run for president instead of her.

    Do you think that she might actually be replaced by someone like Biden, Sanders or Kaine?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 11, 2016 - 9:09 PM ET #618

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark_The_Narc:

    No tangible impact.  

    I would consider "deaths doorstep" to be a tangible impact 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark_The_Narc:

    No tangible impact.  

    I would consider "deaths doorstep" to be a tangible impact 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Van,

    Hillary is now an unbelievable -185 on 5Dimes because she had a hot spell at a 9/11 ceremony where the temp and humidity is unbearable (but of course, it's the 'medical condition' that Fox News has fabricated because their candidate is a joke). Tell me more about Bengazhi and the emails. LOL. Hilarious. It's incredible. Are you taking more now Van?

    Folks, if you do not pound this number on Hillary's side, you are being irresponsible as a gambler. I'm serious. I can't bet the money for you!

    it actually is a medical condition. being reported by everyone. turn off your blinders and handicap this without emotion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Van,

    Hillary is now an unbelievable -185 on 5Dimes because she had a hot spell at a 9/11 ceremony where the temp and humidity is unbearable (but of course, it's the 'medical condition' that Fox News has fabricated because their candidate is a joke). Tell me more about Bengazhi and the emails. LOL. Hilarious. It's incredible. Are you taking more now Van?

    Folks, if you do not pound this number on Hillary's side, you are being irresponsible as a gambler. I'm serious. I can't bet the money for you!

    it actually is a medical condition. being reported by everyone. turn off your blinders and handicap this without emotion.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 11, 2016 - 9:12 PM ET #620

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Van,

    Hillary is now an unbelievable -185 on 5Dimes because she had a hot spell at a 9/11 ceremony where the temp and humidity is unbearable (but of course, it's the 'medical condition' that Fox News has fabricated because their candidate is a joke). 

    Temp and humidity is unbearable?   

    It was a spectacular day from a weather perspective.
    At the time of her collapse, it was 78 degrees with little to no humidity.

    "unbearable" 


    bigreds daddy
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Van,

    Hillary is now an unbelievable -185 on 5Dimes because she had a hot spell at a 9/11 ceremony where the temp and humidity is unbearable (but of course, it's the 'medical condition' that Fox News has fabricated because their candidate is a joke). 

    Temp and humidity is unbearable?   

    It was a spectacular day from a weather perspective.
    At the time of her collapse, it was 78 degrees with little to no humidity.

    "unbearable" 


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:


    Temp and humidity is unbearable?   

    It was a spectacular day from a weather perspective.
    At the time of her collapse, it was 78 degrees with little to no humidity.

    "unbearable" 



    first it was allergies for the cough last week (it was proven that pollen levels were very low), then for a few hour today it was hot spells ( mid 70s at the time it happened), so now they are saying it was phenomena all along. This is a total joke. she needs to be replaced with sanders.

    Im an independent  
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:


    Temp and humidity is unbearable?   

    It was a spectacular day from a weather perspective.
    At the time of her collapse, it was 78 degrees with little to no humidity.

    "unbearable" 



    first it was allergies for the cough last week (it was proven that pollen levels were very low), then for a few hour today it was hot spells ( mid 70s at the time it happened), so now they are saying it was phenomena all along. This is a total joke. she needs to be replaced with sanders.

    Im an independent  
     
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    Posted: Sep. 11, 2016 - 10:54 PM ET #622

    Hillary Clinton has cancelled a campaign trip to California, but a campaign official said her health is fine ..and she feels great ..
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    Hillary Clinton has cancelled a campaign trip to California, but a campaign official said her health is fine ..and she feels great ..
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark_The_Narc:

    No tangible impact. Electoral math too much to overcome. Pure demographics make the task nearly impossible even with hillary.

    I have just examined her (Hillary Clinton) and she is rehydrated and recovering nicely.--DR. Lisa R. Bardack, M.D. (Clinton's personal doctor)    
    There is much more trustworthy on HRC's personal doctor than other conspiracy on the street. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark_The_Narc:

    No tangible impact. Electoral math too much to overcome. Pure demographics make the task nearly impossible even with hillary.

    I have just examined her (Hillary Clinton) and she is rehydrated and recovering nicely.--DR. Lisa R. Bardack, M.D. (Clinton's personal doctor)    
    There is much more trustworthy on HRC's personal doctor than other conspiracy on the street. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:


    I have just examined her (Hillary Clinton) and she is rehydrated and recovering nicely.--DR. Lisa R. Bardack, M.D. (Clinton's personal doctor)    
    There is much more trustworthy on HRC's personal doctor than other conspiracy on the street. 



    I would think,if that was your grandmother ,,you would be a little more concerned..

    It took four men to stuff her in that van...200 lbs. of dead weight cankles is very hard to move....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:


    I have just examined her (Hillary Clinton) and she is rehydrated and recovering nicely.--DR. Lisa R. Bardack, M.D. (Clinton's personal doctor)    
    There is much more trustworthy on HRC's personal doctor than other conspiracy on the street. 



    I would think,if that was your grandmother ,,you would be a little more concerned..

    It took four men to stuff her in that van...200 lbs. of dead weight cankles is very hard to move....
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2016 - 7:30 AM ET #625

    It's not about the news, it's all about the news source.
    If the New York Times writes that HRC's health is not an issue, your first thought should be "HRC must be real sick"

    https://nypost.com/2016/09/11/hillarys-media-is-torching-its-standards-to-cover-the-election/

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    It's not about the news, it's all about the news source.
    If the New York Times writes that HRC's health is not an issue, your first thought should be "HRC must be real sick"

    https://nypost.com/2016/09/11/hillarys-media-is-torching-its-standards-to-cover-the-election/

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