Just a couple thoughts to muddy the waters even further.
ACA is six years old and the GOP has attacked it at every possible opportunity, and has campaigned on the promise of "something better", but now that push comes to shove we find out they haven't developed anything else in SIX YEARS and have no idea which way to turn. So, as they chip away at the current ACA they will diddle and dawdle and develop nothing, then offer you "alternative facts" to show you how much they care about healthcare for folks (American folks btw) that simply have no access to affordable healthcare. If these idiots think they can avoid a problem by turning it back over to the states they are insane. One of the most needed adjustments in the ACA is the ability to sell coverage across state lines, without having to apply for certification from all fifty states. That concept would die a quick and painful death, but the governors of the states would love it. Much bigger insurance boards to (supposedly) monitor all the new insurers would create a need for larger insurance bureaucracies and more political appointments. After all, Governor Johnson's brother in law may be in need of a new (highly paid) gubernatorial appointment.
Last, but certainly not least, you "smaller government-return it to the states" types need to face the facts. States Rights ended with the Civil War and only a nasty federal government is capable of dealing with such a gigantic issue. The wealthiest nation on earth, that spends (in real dollars) more on national defense than the next eight largest industrial nations, must deal with universal healthcare on a national basis. If it is returned to the states (unfunded, of course) it will be an unmitigated disaster.
Now and then even a BLIND squirrel can find an acorn
Just a couple thoughts to muddy the waters even further.
ACA is six years old and the GOP has attacked it at every possible opportunity, and has campaigned on the promise of "something better", but now that push comes to shove we find out they haven't developed anything else in SIX YEARS and have no idea which way to turn. So, as they chip away at the current ACA they will diddle and dawdle and develop nothing, then offer you "alternative facts" to show you how much they care about healthcare for folks (American folks btw) that simply have no access to affordable healthcare. If these idiots think they can avoid a problem by turning it back over to the states they are insane. One of the most needed adjustments in the ACA is the ability to sell coverage across state lines, without having to apply for certification from all fifty states. That concept would die a quick and painful death, but the governors of the states would love it. Much bigger insurance boards to (supposedly) monitor all the new insurers would create a need for larger insurance bureaucracies and more political appointments. After all, Governor Johnson's brother in law may be in need of a new (highly paid) gubernatorial appointment.
Last, but certainly not least, you "smaller government-return it to the states" types need to face the facts. States Rights ended with the Civil War and only a nasty federal government is capable of dealing with such a gigantic issue. The wealthiest nation on earth, that spends (in real dollars) more on national defense than the next eight largest industrial nations, must deal with universal healthcare on a national basis. If it is returned to the states (unfunded, of course) it will be an unmitigated disaster.
then after that entire rant above. what if???? what if it was so much worse than you could ever concieve. what if you did not die. what if you just woke upin a past situation you could not explain why completely lost reality and realized you were in somesimiliar place but little things that only your ocd mind could pick out were a bit off. a new house there your family members do not quite look the same. you were in a situation and experienced a similiar but just off situation but it happened that you do not remeber anything but that you had a bad dream, and everything happpens to repeat to lead you to the same point many years later and you find yourself facing the decisioned. to move to the next day.
what if the whole thing was like a big behind game and when you lose you start over from a fixed point and move back through to the present... and it just never ends...
your stuck in a ground hogs century to get it right?
As someone who has been diagnosed with depression by the V.A. and given a substantial amount of money for it over several years, I can honestly say that you have no idea what you're talking about.
I honestly have no idea what you said in the quoted response above. I just know that you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to "curing depression". I know this because it's not as easy as simply throwing money at a person and telling them they should feel better. I highly suggest you stop talking about that specific point, at least until you're better informed. But honestly, just stop talking about it.
Most of your posts on here are incomprehensible, so I'm not quite sure what you're saying most of the time. I just know that you are not a psychological or medical professional and that this topic, depression, is completely over your head.
I find it really interesting that most of the Trump lemmings in this forum, tend to be the people that butcher the English language the most.
Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:
then after that entire rant above. what if???? what if it was so much worse than you could ever concieve. what if you did not die. what if you just woke upin a past situation you could not explain why completely lost reality and realized you were in somesimiliar place but little things that only your ocd mind could pick out were a bit off. a new house there your family members do not quite look the same. you were in a situation and experienced a similiar but just off situation but it happened that you do not remeber anything but that you had a bad dream, and everything happpens to repeat to lead you to the same point many years later and you find yourself facing the decisioned. to move to the next day.
what if the whole thing was like a big behind game and when you lose you start over from a fixed point and move back through to the present... and it just never ends...
your stuck in a ground hogs century to get it right?
As someone who has been diagnosed with depression by the V.A. and given a substantial amount of money for it over several years, I can honestly say that you have no idea what you're talking about.
I honestly have no idea what you said in the quoted response above. I just know that you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to "curing depression". I know this because it's not as easy as simply throwing money at a person and telling them they should feel better. I highly suggest you stop talking about that specific point, at least until you're better informed. But honestly, just stop talking about it.
Most of your posts on here are incomprehensible, so I'm not quite sure what you're saying most of the time. I just know that you are not a psychological or medical professional and that this topic, depression, is completely over your head.
I find it really interesting that most of the Trump lemmings in this forum, tend to be the people that butcher the English language the most.
as someone who was diagnosed as unstable liability by the miltary i was released as well from psychiatric facility in augusta ga and been on the doyle since.
as someone who was diagnosed as unstable liability by the miltary i was released as well from psychiatric facility in augusta ga and been on the doyle since.
Just a couple thoughts to muddy the waters even further.
ACA is six years old and the GOP has attacked it at every possible opportunity, and has campaigned on the promise of "something better", but now that push comes to shove we find out they haven't developed anything else in SIX YEARS and have no idea which way to turn. So, as they chip away at the current ACA they will diddle and dawdle and develop nothing, then offer you "alternative facts" to show you how much they care about healthcare for folks (American folks btw) that simply have no access to affordable healthcare. If these idiots think they can avoid a problem by turning it back over to the states they are insane. One of the most needed adjustments in the ACA is the ability to sell coverage across state lines, without having to apply for certification from all fifty states. That concept would die a quick and painful death, but the governors of the states would love it. Much bigger insurance boards to (supposedly) monitor all the new insurers would create a need for larger insurance bureaucracies and more political appointments. After all, Governor Johnson's brother in law may be in need of a new (highly paid) gubernatorial appointment.
Last, but certainly not least, you "smaller government-return it to the states" types need to face the facts. States Rights ended with the Civil War and only a nasty federal government is capable of dealing with such a gigantic issue. The wealthiest nation on earth, that spends (in real dollars) more on national defense than the next eight largest industrial nations, must deal with universal healthcare on a national basis. If it is returned to the states (unfunded, of course) it will be an unmitigated disaster.
it isnt returning unfunded, it is returning choice of packages to the states. but as far as the debt? wemake the physicalpaper federalreserve notein all branches of the federal reserve bank.
this noteis the reserve currency formost of the world. running out of money is not likely wemake the note print the note and distribute the note... did welose the paper machine, is the ink well gone dry, did all the printers break at once.... than running out of money is a diversion...
Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:
Just a couple thoughts to muddy the waters even further.
ACA is six years old and the GOP has attacked it at every possible opportunity, and has campaigned on the promise of "something better", but now that push comes to shove we find out they haven't developed anything else in SIX YEARS and have no idea which way to turn. So, as they chip away at the current ACA they will diddle and dawdle and develop nothing, then offer you "alternative facts" to show you how much they care about healthcare for folks (American folks btw) that simply have no access to affordable healthcare. If these idiots think they can avoid a problem by turning it back over to the states they are insane. One of the most needed adjustments in the ACA is the ability to sell coverage across state lines, without having to apply for certification from all fifty states. That concept would die a quick and painful death, but the governors of the states would love it. Much bigger insurance boards to (supposedly) monitor all the new insurers would create a need for larger insurance bureaucracies and more political appointments. After all, Governor Johnson's brother in law may be in need of a new (highly paid) gubernatorial appointment.
Last, but certainly not least, you "smaller government-return it to the states" types need to face the facts. States Rights ended with the Civil War and only a nasty federal government is capable of dealing with such a gigantic issue. The wealthiest nation on earth, that spends (in real dollars) more on national defense than the next eight largest industrial nations, must deal with universal healthcare on a national basis. If it is returned to the states (unfunded, of course) it will be an unmitigated disaster.
it isnt returning unfunded, it is returning choice of packages to the states. but as far as the debt? wemake the physicalpaper federalreserve notein all branches of the federal reserve bank.
this noteis the reserve currency formost of the world. running out of money is not likely wemake the note print the note and distribute the note... did welose the paper machine, is the ink well gone dry, did all the printers break at once.... than running out of money is a diversion...
as someone who was diagnosed as unstable liability by the miltary i was released as well from psychiatric facility in augusta ga and been on the doyle since.
This is ignorant and doesn't respond to my post. Try again.
Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:
as someone who was diagnosed as unstable liability by the miltary i was released as well from psychiatric facility in augusta ga and been on the doyle since.
This is ignorant and doesn't respond to my post. Try again.
I was diagnosed as unstable. I was released from the feds to civilian life with nothing but a promise that i was better off with civilian ssdi (thedole) than a veterans wait list. I was very young at that time i committed suicide. I swallowed 500 xana bars. pills chased it with a half gallon of white lightining took a bunch of vicadins and passed out.
i am here....
I was diagnosed as unstable. I was released from the feds to civilian life with nothing but a promise that i was better off with civilian ssdi (thedole) than a veterans wait list. I was very young at that time i committed suicide. I swallowed 500 xana bars. pills chased it with a half gallon of white lightining took a bunch of vicadins and passed out.
gone so far as attempt it with suicide by cop the lady got jammed..... that was October 2016...placed in another psychiatric facility. i have even gone to lengths of trying to freeze to death in back laverdiers in portland back in the day....
i went on some messed up trips in the cosmos lived many places and did a great many things unexplained things at different times.... and I am always back to here. on this wretched marble which I despise...
to help these people most of which I truley loath from a valley i was comfortable dueing fifty eternities in. and your depressed. I am insane after all the stuff i witnessed from this world.
when they rock uncleaved by hands settles down here (asteroid ) I will be cheering section.... cause i have a miserable existance here.
gone so far as attempt it with suicide by cop the lady got jammed..... that was October 2016...placed in another psychiatric facility. i have even gone to lengths of trying to freeze to death in back laverdiers in portland back in the day....
i went on some messed up trips in the cosmos lived many places and did a great many things unexplained things at different times.... and I am always back to here. on this wretched marble which I despise...
to help these people most of which I truley loath from a valley i was comfortable dueing fifty eternities in. and your depressed. I am insane after all the stuff i witnessed from this world.
when they rock uncleaved by hands settles down here (asteroid ) I will be cheering section.... cause i have a miserable existance here.
1: marked by unaffected simplicity :artless, ingenuous<the experienced man speaks simply and wisely to the naive girl — Gilbert Highet>
2a: deficient in worldly wisdom or informed judgment <their naive ignorance of life … when they were first married — Arnold Bennett>; especially:credulous< … tells tall tales of the West to tweak naïve city slickers. — Miriam Horn>b: not previously subjected to experimentation or a particular experimental situation <made the test with naive rats>; also: not having previously used a particular drug (as marijuana)c: not having been exposed previously to an antigen<naive T cells>
3a:self-taught, primitiveb: produced by or as if by a self-taught artist <naive murals>
This is an extremely naive view of depression.
my view is naive?
Definition of naive
1: marked by unaffected simplicity :artless, ingenuous<the experienced man speaks simply and wisely to the naive girl — Gilbert Highet>
2a: deficient in worldly wisdom or informed judgment <their naive ignorance of life … when they were first married — Arnold Bennett>; especially:credulous< … tells tall tales of the West to tweak naïve city slickers. — Miriam Horn>b: not previously subjected to experimentation or a particular experimental situation <made the test with naive rats>; also: not having previously used a particular drug (as marijuana)c: not having been exposed previously to an antigen<naive T cells>
3a:self-taught, primitiveb: produced by or as if by a self-taught artist <naive murals>
Guess you just like to deflect the content of any post to suggest i am ignorant, or stupid, or naive . less intelligent... somehow some way to make your selves feel better about the ignorance in you.
Guess you just like to deflect the content of any post to suggest i am ignorant, or stupid, or naive . less intelligent... somehow some way to make your selves feel better about the ignorance in you.
Guess you just like to deflect the content of any post to suggest i am ignorant, or stupid, or naive . less intelligent... somehow some way to make your selves feel better about the ignorance in you.
Plenty of people who are less intelligent are articulate, make compelling arguments,and are fantastic debaters. Lack of intelligence creates a floor but doesn't define a ceiling.
Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:
Guess you just like to deflect the content of any post to suggest i am ignorant, or stupid, or naive . less intelligent... somehow some way to make your selves feel better about the ignorance in you.
Plenty of people who are less intelligent are articulate, make compelling arguments,and are fantastic debaters. Lack of intelligence creates a floor but doesn't define a ceiling.
Plenty of people who are less intelligent are articulate, make compelling arguments,and are fantastic debaters. Lack of intelligence creates a floor but doesn't define a ceiling.
IT your faith in a definition of intelligence is education, This makes you seem arrogant. I do understand this problem. The cause is the years you invested in those parchments on your wall. The work and tests the loans and years of study to furthur enhance your knowledge. They do not define intelligence in my opinion. they are though a source inspiration that you have work hard.
Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:
Plenty of people who are less intelligent are articulate, make compelling arguments,and are fantastic debaters. Lack of intelligence creates a floor but doesn't define a ceiling.
IT your faith in a definition of intelligence is education, This makes you seem arrogant. I do understand this problem. The cause is the years you invested in those parchments on your wall. The work and tests the loans and years of study to furthur enhance your knowledge. They do not define intelligence in my opinion. they are though a source inspiration that you have work hard.
my definition of intelligence is the ability to solve a complex problem.
not by determining the answer on a piece of paper.. too easy to reduce to an arithmetic equation and obtain an answer.
but to implement this answer which would be impossible with just yourself. convince people to perform the task with their free will.
and understand you have all known ways to do this. You can discourage a behavior, or enhance a position by creating a atmosphere that this because their Idea.
or shame them into feeling they must do it this way to feel better.
we can implement anything. finally the cost for the implementation must become as small as possible.
up here we do so much with so little for so long that we can do anything with practically nothing ahead of schedule.
when those at the top of governing become so detached to the citizens that sent them to Washington in the first place
then they no longer are working for the people.
if they truly disdain the intellectual abilities of the people who sent them to Washington, mock and ridicule the uneducated the poor the suffering and down trodden as "deplorable" and realize why they are this way was well their intention to keep them this way .
They no longer should lead the country. They should lead a university...
my definition of intelligence is the ability to solve a complex problem.
not by determining the answer on a piece of paper.. too easy to reduce to an arithmetic equation and obtain an answer.
but to implement this answer which would be impossible with just yourself. convince people to perform the task with their free will.
and understand you have all known ways to do this. You can discourage a behavior, or enhance a position by creating a atmosphere that this because their Idea.
or shame them into feeling they must do it this way to feel better.
we can implement anything. finally the cost for the implementation must become as small as possible.
up here we do so much with so little for so long that we can do anything with practically nothing ahead of schedule.
when those at the top of governing become so detached to the citizens that sent them to Washington in the first place
then they no longer are working for the people.
if they truly disdain the intellectual abilities of the people who sent them to Washington, mock and ridicule the uneducated the poor the suffering and down trodden as "deplorable" and realize why they are this way was well their intention to keep them this way .
They no longer should lead the country. They should lead a university...
Plenty of people who are less intelligent are articulate, make compelling arguments,and are fantastic debaters. Lack of intelligence creates a floor but doesn't define a ceiling.
Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:
Plenty of people who are less intelligent are articulate, make compelling arguments,and are fantastic debaters. Lack of intelligence creates a floor but doesn't define a ceiling.
There is nothing to respond to. You make nonsensical statements. The only time you say anything coherent is when you make one sentence posts and refer to HRC as the wicked witch.
There is nothing to respond to. You make nonsensical statements. The only time you say anything coherent is when you make one sentence posts and refer to HRC as the wicked witch.
Yes your position is completely naive and fits the definition of "naive" perfectly.
You think that throwing money at people who are truly depressed is a solution to the problem. That is an extremely naive view for a solution to depression.
As far as your story about your drug use, I don't believe any of it. You just seem to seek attention and are probably just trolling. It's pretty sad because I like having meaningful discussion about certain topics.
You're just a sad individual. I feel sorry for you not because of the past you claim to have endured, but because you're just a sad, attention seeking troll, who has nothing better to do than to post on here non stop, all day and night.
Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:
did you wanna debate this position
or do you want to correct my grammar?
Yes your position is completely naive and fits the definition of "naive" perfectly.
You think that throwing money at people who are truly depressed is a solution to the problem. That is an extremely naive view for a solution to depression.
As far as your story about your drug use, I don't believe any of it. You just seem to seek attention and are probably just trolling. It's pretty sad because I like having meaningful discussion about certain topics.
You're just a sad individual. I feel sorry for you not because of the past you claim to have endured, but because you're just a sad, attention seeking troll, who has nothing better to do than to post on here non stop, all day and night.
Yes your position is completely naive and fits the definition of "naive" perfectly.
You think that throwing money at people who are truly depressed is a solution to the problem. That is an extremely naive view for a solution to depression.
As far as your story about your drug use, I don't believe any of it. You just seem to seek attention and are probably just trolling. It's pretty sad because I like having meaningful discussion about certain topics.
You're just a sad individual. I feel sorry for you not because of the past you claim to have endured, but because you're just a sad, attention seeking troll, who has nothing better to do than to post on here non stop, all day and night.
perfectly honestly chief I do not care what you believe
Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:
Yes your position is completely naive and fits the definition of "naive" perfectly.
You think that throwing money at people who are truly depressed is a solution to the problem. That is an extremely naive view for a solution to depression.
As far as your story about your drug use, I don't believe any of it. You just seem to seek attention and are probably just trolling. It's pretty sad because I like having meaningful discussion about certain topics.
You're just a sad individual. I feel sorry for you not because of the past you claim to have endured, but because you're just a sad, attention seeking troll, who has nothing better to do than to post on here non stop, all day and night.
perfectly honestly chief I do not care what you believe
There is nothing to respond to. You make nonsensical statements. The only time you say anything coherent is when you make one sentence posts and refer to HRC as the wicked witch.
ditto
Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:
There is nothing to respond to. You make nonsensical statements. The only time you say anything coherent is when you make one sentence posts and refer to HRC as the wicked witch.
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