Last night on Countdown, Olbermann announced that he was rescinding the offer to Hannity, and instead giving $10,000 to charity following radio host Erich “Mancow” Muller’s waterboarding attempt. Olbermann promised to donate to the charity Veterans of Valor, founded by Sgt. Klay South, who administered the waterboarding to Muller. Olbermann revealed that Mancow’s publicist had contacted Olbermann’s show yesterday to see whether Olbermann would make a similar offer to Mancow as he did for Hannity:
OLBERMANN: Mancow Muller had the guts to put his mouth where his mouth was, and the guts to admit he was dead wrong. As you saw, he not only said it is torture, but that he had nearly drowned as a boy, and it is drowning, and that he would have admitted to anything to make it stop.
So the offer to the coward Hannity — a thousand dollars a second he lasted on the waterboard — is withdrawn.
And to Mr. Muller, whose station’s publicity person contacted us yesterday saying she’d heard I’d offered ten thousand dollars to anybody who would do what he did –
You got it. Ten thousand dollars to the military-families charity of the man who did the waterboarding, Veterans Of Valor. [...]
As to Hannity, you are now unnecessary.
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Hannity = Face of Republican Party
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Last night on Countdown, Olbermann announced that he was rescinding the offer to Hannity, and instead giving $10,000 to charity following radio host Erich “Mancow” Muller’s waterboarding attempt. Olbermann promised to donate to the charity Veterans of Valor, founded by Sgt. Klay South, who administered the waterboarding to Muller. Olbermann revealed that Mancow’s publicist had contacted Olbermann’s show yesterday to see whether Olbermann would make a similar offer to Mancow as he did for Hannity:
OLBERMANN: Mancow Muller had the guts to put his mouth where his mouth was, and the guts to admit he was dead wrong. As you saw, he not only said it is torture, but that he had nearly drowned as a boy, and it is drowning, and that he would have admitted to anything to make it stop.
So the offer to the coward Hannity — a thousand dollars a second he lasted on the waterboard — is withdrawn.
And to Mr. Muller, whose station’s publicity person contacted us yesterday saying she’d heard I’d offered ten thousand dollars to anybody who would do what he did –
You got it. Ten thousand dollars to the military-families charity of the man who did the waterboarding, Veterans Of Valor. [...]
hannity will be waterboarded at a time and place of his choosing....
waterboarding is as American as Chevrolet and apple pie regardless of what any demented traitor liberal says... liberal traitors say that waterboarding is "unAmerican" which is laughable as being a liberal in itself is unAmerican....
Liberals will be waterboarded when CivilWar2 starts...get ready.
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hannity will be waterboarded at a time and place of his choosing....
waterboarding is as American as Chevrolet and apple pie regardless of what any demented traitor liberal says... liberal traitors say that waterboarding is "unAmerican" which is laughable as being a liberal in itself is unAmerican....
Liberals will be waterboarded when CivilWar2 starts...get ready.
btw, congratulations, SDBET. you did two threads with the two names that drives the right wing racist redneck Nazi assholes at Covers ABSOLUTELY NUTS.....
Keith Olbermann and Michael Moore
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btw, congratulations, SDBET. you did two threads with the two names that drives the right wing racist redneck Nazi assholes at Covers ABSOLUTELY NUTS.....
Ya I'm a mother fucking retired airline captian LOSER with a million + liquid net worth that flew off aircraft carriers during Vietnam.l I will bet tou NEVER served in the military. most of your redneck asshole so called "patriots" never did.
all you fieglings are ALL the same. Cheney, Wolfowitz, O'Reilly, ect ALL Vietnam era DRAFT DODGERS. same with the people that rah, rahed going into Iraq with NO plan.
and btw, WHY do you think that only you ignorant reactionary fascist fucks are armed?
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Ya I'm a mother fucking retired airline captian LOSER with a million + liquid net worth that flew off aircraft carriers during Vietnam.l I will bet tou NEVER served in the military. most of your redneck asshole so called "patriots" never did.
all you fieglings are ALL the same. Cheney, Wolfowitz, O'Reilly, ect ALL Vietnam era DRAFT DODGERS. same with the people that rah, rahed going into Iraq with NO plan.
and btw, WHY do you think that only you ignorant reactionary fascist fucks are armed?
Keith Olberman has to be the most riduculous leftist on tv. I wonder if he has made any trips to Iraq to be up close and personal with the men and women of the US military?
Today's wooooooorst person in the world! Keith is an ivy league, educated idiot as far as I am concerned.
God Bless America!
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Keith Olberman has to be the most riduculous leftist on tv. I wonder if he has made any trips to Iraq to be up close and personal with the men and women of the US military?
Today's wooooooorst person in the world! Keith is an ivy league, educated idiot as far as I am concerned.
Capitalism. you mean completely unregulated markets where a few "too big to fail" companies can almost DESTROY the whole world economy with their crooked bullshit?
American values. how do you define that? I would suspect that means only YOUR "values"
Free markets and freedom of choice. like shipping all the manufacturing jobs to Communist China, the tech support jobs to India and bringing in green card scabs to do everything else that can't be outsourced? that's WHY this country is in the economic shape it's in right now.
Belief in God. Ya, as long as it's YOUR God.
btw, I forgot the flannel mouth right wing Vietnam era dodgers of ALL flannel mouth right wing Vietnam era draft dodgers, Rush Limbaugh
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Capitalism. you mean completely unregulated markets where a few "too big to fail" companies can almost DESTROY the whole world economy with their crooked bullshit?
American values. how do you define that? I would suspect that means only YOUR "values"
Free markets and freedom of choice. like shipping all the manufacturing jobs to Communist China, the tech support jobs to India and bringing in green card scabs to do everything else that can't be outsourced? that's WHY this country is in the economic shape it's in right now.
Belief in God. Ya, as long as it's YOUR God.
btw, I forgot the flannel mouth right wing Vietnam era dodgers of ALL flannel mouth right wing Vietnam era draft dodgers, Rush Limbaugh
Capitalism. you mean completely unregulated markets where a few "too big to fail" companies can almost DESTROY the whole world economy with their crooked bullshit?
American values. how do you define that? I would suspect that means only YOUR "values"
Free markets and freedom of choice. like shipping all the manufacturing jobs to Communist China, the tech support jobs to India and bringing in green card scabs to do everything else that can't be outsourced? that's WHY this country is in the economic shape it's in right now.
Belief in God. Ya, as long as it's YOUR God.
btw, I forgot the flannel mouth right wing Vietnam era dodgers of ALL flannel mouth right wing Vietnam era draft dodgers, Rush Limbaugh
Dead On Balls Accurate
LeRinkRat
~~~~~ZOSO~~~~~
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Quote Originally Posted by LeRinkRat:
Capitalism. you mean completely unregulated markets where a few "too big to fail" companies can almost DESTROY the whole world economy with their crooked bullshit?
American values. how do you define that? I would suspect that means only YOUR "values"
Free markets and freedom of choice. like shipping all the manufacturing jobs to Communist China, the tech support jobs to India and bringing in green card scabs to do everything else that can't be outsourced? that's WHY this country is in the economic shape it's in right now.
Belief in God. Ya, as long as it's YOUR God.
btw, I forgot the flannel mouth right wing Vietnam era dodgers of ALL flannel mouth right wing Vietnam era draft dodgers, Rush Limbaugh
Free markets and freedom of choice. like shipping all the
manufacturing jobs to Communist China, the tech support jobs to India
and bringing in green card scabs to do everything else that can't be
outsourced? that's WHY this country is in the economic shape it's in
right now.
Thank you Bush & Cheney
Rot in hell you bastards
~~~~~ZOSO~~~~~
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Free markets and freedom of choice. like shipping all the
manufacturing jobs to Communist China, the tech support jobs to India
and bringing in green card scabs to do everything else that can't be
outsourced? that's WHY this country is in the economic shape it's in
right now.
The Golden Goose.Bush and Cheney had nothing to do with the Left's heros of Clinton and Gore ramming NAFTA and GATT down our American, collective throats on or around 1994. You need a history lesson.
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The Golden Goose.Bush and Cheney had nothing to do with the Left's heros of Clinton and Gore ramming NAFTA and GATT down our American, collective throats on or around 1994. You need a history lesson.
Clinton only tried to protect one thing and that was himself. I remember Gore vs Perot on Larry King debating NAFTA. Gore made Perot look bad and all of a suddent Bill was in the oval office signing NAFTA into legislation.
Golden Goose, You are pretty emotional about this.
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Clinton only tried to protect one thing and that was himself. I remember Gore vs Perot on Larry King debating NAFTA. Gore made Perot look bad and all of a suddent Bill was in the oval office signing NAFTA into legislation.
Golden Goose, You are pretty emotional about this.
I seem to remember that we had the Newt Gingrich REPUBLIUCAN Congress pusshing for that NAFTA bullshit. Clinton should have fought it, or at least fought for worker protections both here AND in Mexico (where union organizors get murdered) BUT he didn't.
you want to get on Clinton's case, overturning Glass-Steagel turned out to be MUCH worse for the US economy than NAFTA was. allong with Republicans like Phil Gramm, the Clinton administrations Larry Summers was pushing for that disaster.
the auto companies had been outsourcing to Mexico for YEARS before NAFTA. I know, I was flying their parts from Detriot to El Paso so they could be taken across the border to assembly plants on the Mexican side and then returned the next day.
and THAT was in 1986
it's gonna REALLY come to a head IF GM want's to do final assembly of some fucking ChiCom parts "Mao Mobile" in Mexico and use NAFTA to dump that shit here in the States.
and as for "Bush and Cheney had nothing to do with the Left's heros of Clinton and Gore ramming NAFTA and GATT down our American, collective throats on or around 1994."outsourcing accelerated after Bush took office. I remember Bush going to the Timken rollerbearing plant in Canton Ohio for a "photo-op" speech in 2003. a year later the company CLOSED that plant and sent the equipment to Mexico.
America has become deindustrialized to the point where it's becoming a National Defense issue. there are some electronic components for weapons systems that are NO LONGER MADE here in America.
you would THINK the "Strong on Defense" Republicans would be raising hell about THAT.
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You need a history lesson.
I seem to remember that we had the Newt Gingrich REPUBLIUCAN Congress pusshing for that NAFTA bullshit. Clinton should have fought it, or at least fought for worker protections both here AND in Mexico (where union organizors get murdered) BUT he didn't.
you want to get on Clinton's case, overturning Glass-Steagel turned out to be MUCH worse for the US economy than NAFTA was. allong with Republicans like Phil Gramm, the Clinton administrations Larry Summers was pushing for that disaster.
the auto companies had been outsourcing to Mexico for YEARS before NAFTA. I know, I was flying their parts from Detriot to El Paso so they could be taken across the border to assembly plants on the Mexican side and then returned the next day.
and THAT was in 1986
it's gonna REALLY come to a head IF GM want's to do final assembly of some fucking ChiCom parts "Mao Mobile" in Mexico and use NAFTA to dump that shit here in the States.
and as for "Bush and Cheney had nothing to do with the Left's heros of Clinton and Gore ramming NAFTA and GATT down our American, collective throats on or around 1994."outsourcing accelerated after Bush took office. I remember Bush going to the Timken rollerbearing plant in Canton Ohio for a "photo-op" speech in 2003. a year later the company CLOSED that plant and sent the equipment to Mexico.
America has become deindustrialized to the point where it's becoming a National Defense issue. there are some electronic components for weapons systems that are NO LONGER MADE here in America.
you would THINK the "Strong on Defense" Republicans would be raising hell about THAT.
"Golden Goose, You are pretty emotional about this."
Sundance: I know I am. But I really feel that Corporate America was entrusted with keeping the USA and it's citizens number one in the world.Instead, they unleashed their greed and have pushed us to the brink of devastation. Cooking the books, raiding employee 401K plans, outrageous executive bonuses, outsourcing our jobs, and on and on and on and on and on.
And I think that LeRinkRat is DOBA about the Republicans being more to blame than the Democrats. Bush Sr & Jr simply looked the other way and allowed their rich corporate buddies to flush our country and it's people down the toilet.
Yes, I am mad as hell.
~~~~~ZOSO~~~~~
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"Golden Goose, You are pretty emotional about this."
Sundance: I know I am. But I really feel that Corporate America was entrusted with keeping the USA and it's citizens number one in the world.Instead, they unleashed their greed and have pushed us to the brink of devastation. Cooking the books, raiding employee 401K plans, outrageous executive bonuses, outsourcing our jobs, and on and on and on and on and on.
And I think that LeRinkRat is DOBA about the Republicans being more to blame than the Democrats. Bush Sr & Jr simply looked the other way and allowed their rich corporate buddies to flush our country and it's people down the toilet.
Ya I'm a mother fucking retired airline captian LOSER with a million + liquid net worth that flew off aircraft carriers during Vietnam.l I will bet tou NEVER served in the military. most of your redneck asshole so called "patriots" never did.
all you fieglings are ALL the same. Cheney, Wolfowitz, O'Reilly, ect ALL Vietnam era DRAFT DODGERS. same with the people that rah, rahed going into Iraq with NO plan.
and btw, WHY do you think that only you ignorant reactionary fascist fucks are armed?
Who cares?
and i'm sure you're lying anyway....but even if you're not...having a million net-worth AIN'T shit...especially after the coming inflation and devaluation of the dollar that your messiah has inspired...having a million in the bank... the only thing that it proves it that Capitalism can keep idiots like you off the welfare rolls... i'm this, i'm that, I have this, I have that, I flew off aircraft carriers, ( so did John McCain and HE''S a loser too) I fucked the general flying public making them pay HUGE airfares ( bankrupting the airlines themselves) with my huge salary demands and absurd retirement pension (thanks mr. union!)
I have a million in net-worth bla, bla, bla........
BIG FUCKEN DEAL...what part of that doesn't make you a loser?
BTW..I probably seved in the military longer than you did asswipe.
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Quote Originally Posted by LeRinkRat:
Ya I'm a mother fucking retired airline captian LOSER with a million + liquid net worth that flew off aircraft carriers during Vietnam.l I will bet tou NEVER served in the military. most of your redneck asshole so called "patriots" never did.
all you fieglings are ALL the same. Cheney, Wolfowitz, O'Reilly, ect ALL Vietnam era DRAFT DODGERS. same with the people that rah, rahed going into Iraq with NO plan.
and btw, WHY do you think that only you ignorant reactionary fascist fucks are armed?
Who cares?
and i'm sure you're lying anyway....but even if you're not...having a million net-worth AIN'T shit...especially after the coming inflation and devaluation of the dollar that your messiah has inspired...having a million in the bank... the only thing that it proves it that Capitalism can keep idiots like you off the welfare rolls... i'm this, i'm that, I have this, I have that, I flew off aircraft carriers, ( so did John McCain and HE''S a loser too) I fucked the general flying public making them pay HUGE airfares ( bankrupting the airlines themselves) with my huge salary demands and absurd retirement pension (thanks mr. union!)
I have a million in net-worth bla, bla, bla........
BIG FUCKEN DEAL...what part of that doesn't make you a loser?
BTW..I probably seved in the military longer than you did asswipe.
Capitalism. you mean completely unregulated markets where a few "too big to fail" companies can almost DESTROY the whole world economy with their crooked bullshit..
The fact is that Capitalism protects people’s right to live their own lives and interact voluntarily with others, by their own judgment, free from political controls...capitalism means a system in which individuals rights to property and contract are consistently protected. In capitalism the job of the government is to protect people from force and fraud...
Politicians interfering in the marketplace is not capitalism. If “bribed governments” grant to some businesses political advantages to seize wealth by force or forcibly harm competitors, that is not “unregulated capitalism;” it is a market controlled to some degree by politicians....Capitalism is regulated first by a government that protects against force and fraud, and second by the independent judgment of individuals.
If you don’t like a company’s products or services, don’t buy them! If you think you can do better, go right ahead! But this is not the sort of “regulation” that the enemies of capitalism like your kind have in mind. Instead, they call on politicians to control the economy and violate people’s rights! NEVER WILL HAPPEN BUDDY.
Capitalism is a system devised by men that utilize individual drive and genius that develop the goods,services, health care, technology,food, housing, cars etc...that we need.
Their motive is to produce life-enhancing products and exchange them voluntarily with others for their personal gain. No motive could be more noble.
American values. how do you define that? I would suspect that means only YOUR "values"
My values? Not exactly, but close, it's the values that America has stood for for over 200 years which has made it the greatest country in the history of the world!!!
( up to this point)
Free markets and freedom of choice. like shipping all the manufacturing jobs to Communist China, the tech support jobs to India and bringing in green card scabs to do everything else that can't be outsourced? that's WHY this country is in the economic shape it's in right now.
There you go again, Karl.....Jobs are not being shipped, and Americans are not somehow being stopped from making TVs for example..... TVs can still be made in the US. Everyone and anyone is free to invest the money, hire the workers (bidding them away from other pursuits), buy the parts, build the sets, and put them on sale. That the same processes are undertaken in China has no bearing on anyone's freedom to do it here. If you want to make an all-American TV, no one is stopping you.
But with any other product, the US TV maker must still face the issue of persuading people to buy. The question comes down to the price people are willing to pay for your TV sets versus the prices charged by the competition. To try to sell them at a price that justifies your investment and worker salaries means they would sit on the shelves unsold because the same product or better is available at a cheaper price. You will have to lower your price to sell them, and will end up selling at a loss....Now...you are free to continue to sell at loss, or produce TV sets that nobody buys, employing workers and dumping capital into the project, but you must eventually come to terms with the fact that you are not going to make a profit. That you are unique in choosing an economically unviable path would not be surprising. Investors are not so stupid that they continue to pour scarce resources into production (which is always and everywhere directed toward the final end of consumption) that makes no sense....so you see you're simple minded claim that jobs are being shipped overseas is simple wrong....KARL.
Belief in God. Ya, as long as it's YOUR God.
No, where did you get that from...this country was founded on freedom of religion and worship ( didn't you go to school?) ...but it's the liberals who are trying desperately to wipe-out God in all ways and in all forms...you are all truly VILE.
btw, I forgot the flannel mouth right wing Vietnam era dodgers of ALL flannel mouth right wing Vietnam era draft dodgers, Rush Limbaugh
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Quote Originally Posted by LeRinkRat:
Capitalism. you mean completely unregulated markets where a few "too big to fail" companies can almost DESTROY the whole world economy with their crooked bullshit..
The fact is that Capitalism protects people’s right to live their own lives and interact voluntarily with others, by their own judgment, free from political controls...capitalism means a system in which individuals rights to property and contract are consistently protected. In capitalism the job of the government is to protect people from force and fraud...
Politicians interfering in the marketplace is not capitalism. If “bribed governments” grant to some businesses political advantages to seize wealth by force or forcibly harm competitors, that is not “unregulated capitalism;” it is a market controlled to some degree by politicians....Capitalism is regulated first by a government that protects against force and fraud, and second by the independent judgment of individuals.
If you don’t like a company’s products or services, don’t buy them! If you think you can do better, go right ahead! But this is not the sort of “regulation” that the enemies of capitalism like your kind have in mind. Instead, they call on politicians to control the economy and violate people’s rights! NEVER WILL HAPPEN BUDDY.
Capitalism is a system devised by men that utilize individual drive and genius that develop the goods,services, health care, technology,food, housing, cars etc...that we need.
Their motive is to produce life-enhancing products and exchange them voluntarily with others for their personal gain. No motive could be more noble.
American values. how do you define that? I would suspect that means only YOUR "values"
My values? Not exactly, but close, it's the values that America has stood for for over 200 years which has made it the greatest country in the history of the world!!!
( up to this point)
Free markets and freedom of choice. like shipping all the manufacturing jobs to Communist China, the tech support jobs to India and bringing in green card scabs to do everything else that can't be outsourced? that's WHY this country is in the economic shape it's in right now.
There you go again, Karl.....Jobs are not being shipped, and Americans are not somehow being stopped from making TVs for example..... TVs can still be made in the US. Everyone and anyone is free to invest the money, hire the workers (bidding them away from other pursuits), buy the parts, build the sets, and put them on sale. That the same processes are undertaken in China has no bearing on anyone's freedom to do it here. If you want to make an all-American TV, no one is stopping you.
But with any other product, the US TV maker must still face the issue of persuading people to buy. The question comes down to the price people are willing to pay for your TV sets versus the prices charged by the competition. To try to sell them at a price that justifies your investment and worker salaries means they would sit on the shelves unsold because the same product or better is available at a cheaper price. You will have to lower your price to sell them, and will end up selling at a loss....Now...you are free to continue to sell at loss, or produce TV sets that nobody buys, employing workers and dumping capital into the project, but you must eventually come to terms with the fact that you are not going to make a profit. That you are unique in choosing an economically unviable path would not be surprising. Investors are not so stupid that they continue to pour scarce resources into production (which is always and everywhere directed toward the final end of consumption) that makes no sense....so you see you're simple minded claim that jobs are being shipped overseas is simple wrong....KARL.
Belief in God. Ya, as long as it's YOUR God.
No, where did you get that from...this country was founded on freedom of religion and worship ( didn't you go to school?) ...but it's the liberals who are trying desperately to wipe-out God in all ways and in all forms...you are all truly VILE.
btw, I forgot the flannel mouth right wing Vietnam era dodgers of ALL flannel mouth right wing Vietnam era draft dodgers, Rush Limbaugh
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