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    new evidence in George Zimmerman case...

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    AStefani
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    Posted: May. 24, 2013 - 9:52 AM ET #1

    How this man was even charged to begin with is an American tragedy.

    https://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/Trayvon-Martin-evidence-photos-679832

     

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    How this man was even charged to begin with is an American tragedy.

    https://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/Trayvon-Martin-evidence-photos-679832

     

     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2013 - 10:32 AM ET #2

    Quote Originally Posted by AStefani:

    How this man was even charged to begin with was purely political.

    https://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/Trayvon-Martin-evidence-photos-679832

     



    i fixed it for you, although you and i basically said the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AStefani:

    How this man was even charged to begin with was purely political.

    https://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/Trayvon-Martin-evidence-photos-679832

     



    i fixed it for you, although you and i basically said the same thing.
     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2013 - 1:02 PM ET #3

    You are correct my friend.  It is a travesty and I hope Angela Corey somehow, someway gets what she deserves for putting this man and his family through a living hell. 
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    You are correct my friend.  It is a travesty and I hope Angela Corey somehow, someway gets what she deserves for putting this man and his family through a living hell. 
     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2013 - 2:44 PM ET #4

    At least some people in this case is getting some of what they deserve ..

     New Black Panther southern regional representative  Mikhail Shareef Muhammad who's Party offered a one million dollar bounty for the capture "Dead or Alive"of George Zimmerman as arrested yesterday for false imprisionment .......

    .........and New Black Panther Party,( a recognized racist and anti-Semitic organization,) Party leader Hashim Nzinga who announced a $10,000 bounty on Zimmerman was arrested on March 27th for possession of a firearm by a convicted felon..

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    At least some people in this case is getting some of what they deserve ..

     New Black Panther southern regional representative  Mikhail Shareef Muhammad who's Party offered a one million dollar bounty for the capture "Dead or Alive"of George Zimmerman as arrested yesterday for false imprisionment .......

    .........and New Black Panther Party,( a recognized racist and anti-Semitic organization,) Party leader Hashim Nzinga who announced a $10,000 bounty on Zimmerman was arrested on March 27th for possession of a firearm by a convicted felon..

     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2013 - 6:43 PM ET #5

    All I see is someone utilizing his 2nd amendment right to bear arms.  And his first amendment right to flip off someone.  And neither photo has anything to do with being stalked and shot by a "want-a-be" cop.
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    All I see is someone utilizing his 2nd amendment right to bear arms.  And his first amendment right to flip off someone.  And neither photo has anything to do with being stalked and shot by a "want-a-be" cop.
     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2013 - 8:01 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by TravelHC:

    All I see is someone utilizing his 2nd amendment right to bear arms.  And his first amendment right to flip off someone.  And neither photo has anything to do with being
    stalked and shot by a "want-a-be" cop.

    The psycho-stalkers...

    and "want-a-be" cops  on this site are really scary stuff...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TravelHC:

    All I see is someone utilizing his 2nd amendment right to bear arms.  And his first amendment right to flip off someone.  And neither photo has anything to do with being
    stalked and shot by a "want-a-be" cop.

    The psycho-stalkers...

    and "want-a-be" cops  on this site are really scary stuff...
     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2013 - 12:22 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by TravelHC:

    All I see is someone utilizing his 2nd amendment right to bear arms.  And his first amendment right to flip off someone.  And neither photo has anything to do with being stalked and shot by a "want-a-be" cop.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TravelHC:

    All I see is someone utilizing his 2nd amendment right to bear arms.  And his first amendment right to flip off someone.  And neither photo has anything to do with being stalked and shot by a "want-a-be" cop.



     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2013 - 2:30 PM ET #8

    Obviously, the photos do a lot to correct the image that most of the media spoon fed us from the beginning.

    Correction- Spoon fed some of us. ( The ignorant ones. )

    Even if Zimmerman did follow TM around the neighborhood there is no law or otherwise that dictates he can't. (Even a dispatcher telling him it was not necessary.)

    Zimmerman is the only one out of the two that understood that the cops could be there on scene literally any second. He would likely have acted accordingly.

    One of the prosecutions main audio witnesses stated she didn't see the altercation but she was darn sure it was TM screaming because he was only a young teenager and Zimmerman was much older. BS

    No evidence or testimony or ANY other thing suggest that Zimmerman so much as did anything offensively physical towards TM.

    No evidence or testimony that Zimmerman ever pulled the gun prior to the moment he fired it despite a good chance to find out if it did happen since TM was allegedly on the phone with his GF at the start of the verbal confrontation and possibly just before the physical confrontation.

    Zimmerman had every right to follow TM and find out what he was up to. Trayvon had every right to feel threatened by being followed and find out why the strange man was following him.

    Neither had any right to change what should have been a verbal exchange into a physical confrontation and it appears that Trayvon Martin is the one who crossed that proverbial line.

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    Obviously, the photos do a lot to correct the image that most of the media spoon fed us from the beginning.

    Correction- Spoon fed some of us. ( The ignorant ones. )

    Even if Zimmerman did follow TM around the neighborhood there is no law or otherwise that dictates he can't. (Even a dispatcher telling him it was not necessary.)

    Zimmerman is the only one out of the two that understood that the cops could be there on scene literally any second. He would likely have acted accordingly.

    One of the prosecutions main audio witnesses stated she didn't see the altercation but she was darn sure it was TM screaming because he was only a young teenager and Zimmerman was much older. BS

    No evidence or testimony or ANY other thing suggest that Zimmerman so much as did anything offensively physical towards TM.

    No evidence or testimony that Zimmerman ever pulled the gun prior to the moment he fired it despite a good chance to find out if it did happen since TM was allegedly on the phone with his GF at the start of the verbal confrontation and possibly just before the physical confrontation.

    Zimmerman had every right to follow TM and find out what he was up to. Trayvon had every right to feel threatened by being followed and find out why the strange man was following him.

    Neither had any right to change what should have been a verbal exchange into a physical confrontation and it appears that Trayvon Martin is the one who crossed that proverbial line.

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    Posted: May. 26, 2013 - 9:48 AM ET #9

    Hashim Nzinga is the most racist person in the planet. His rhetoric is seriously scary to listen to and he should be locked up for good.
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    Hashim Nzinga is the most racist person in the planet. His rhetoric is seriously scary to listen to and he should be locked up for good.
     
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    Posted: May. 26, 2013 - 9:56 AM ET #10

    for the billionth time THESE PHOTOS ARE NOT new evidence in this case. IN fact they are not evidence in this case at all. 

    They show that Martin was not a class citizen, and as Bowl states, they show that the initial portrayal of Marting was very misleading (but my guess is that most people realize this by now). 

    However, they IN NO WAY WHAT SO EVER provide any insight into what happened that night.

    We need to be smarter than this people.
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    for the billionth time THESE PHOTOS ARE NOT new evidence in this case. IN fact they are not evidence in this case at all. 

    They show that Martin was not a class citizen, and as Bowl states, they show that the initial portrayal of Marting was very misleading (but my guess is that most people realize this by now). 

    However, they IN NO WAY WHAT SO EVER provide any insight into what happened that night.

    We need to be smarter than this people.
     
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    Posted: May. 26, 2013 - 10:05 AM ET #11

    As I posted in another thread...

    No doubt that he was into trouble. But IMO this sheds no light into the actual incident.

    Zimmerman's attorney -- "With all due respect judge, you read those texts on Martin's phone right? You know that he liked to smoke weed right? You know that he was possibly interested in a gun right? You also know that he was having trouble at home right? So this should be an obvious decision. He is clearly at fault for all of the actions that occurred on the night that he died".   


    Judge -- "Sir, you are an idiot. Please sit down and shut up".
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    As I posted in another thread...

    No doubt that he was into trouble. But IMO this sheds no light into the actual incident.

    Zimmerman's attorney -- "With all due respect judge, you read those texts on Martin's phone right? You know that he liked to smoke weed right? You know that he was possibly interested in a gun right? You also know that he was having trouble at home right? So this should be an obvious decision. He is clearly at fault for all of the actions that occurred on the night that he died".   


    Judge -- "Sir, you are an idiot. Please sit down and shut up".
     
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    Posted: May. 26, 2013 - 10:34 AM ET #12

    O’Mara wants to introduce several photos of Martin, including one image showing him giving two middle fingers to the camera...and photos of a handgun and marijuana plants that were found on the late teenager’s cell phone.

    I was under the impression,that taxpayer funded free ObamaPhones were to provide access to emergency services like 911 and to help unemployed people find a job.

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    O’Mara wants to introduce several photos of Martin, including one image showing him giving two middle fingers to the camera...and photos of a handgun and marijuana plants that were found on the late teenager’s cell phone.

    I was under the impression,that taxpayer funded free ObamaPhones were to provide access to emergency services like 911 and to help unemployed people find a job.

     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2013 - 8:16 PM ET #13

    How many black lives did Zimmerman save by removing this future predator from this vale of tears?That's my Minority Report.
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    How many black lives did Zimmerman save by removing this future predator from this vale of tears?That's my Minority Report.
     
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    Posted: May. 28, 2013 - 11:36 AM ET #14

    It's out:

    A Florida judge ruled Tuesday that George Zimmerman’s defense team cannot mention Trayvon Martin’s suspension from school, prior marijuana use, text messages or past fighting during opening statements at next month’s trial.

    Zimmerman must be sacrificed to racial politics.

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    It's out:

    A Florida judge ruled Tuesday that George Zimmerman’s defense team cannot mention Trayvon Martin’s suspension from school, prior marijuana use, text messages or past fighting during opening statements at next month’s trial.

    Zimmerman must be sacrificed to racial politics.

     
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    Posted: May. 28, 2013 - 12:04 PM ET #15

    Just during opening statements?  Do you have a link?

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    Just during opening statements?  Do you have a link?

     
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    Posted: May. 28, 2013 - 12:13 PM ET #16

    https://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/28/18556018-judge-bars-evidence-for-now-in-george-zimmerman-trial?lite

    It appears this can be over come if they can show the evidence is not hear say on a case by case basis.  That isn't as bad as it sounded at first. 

    How can a judge not think information that is relevant to the case? 

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    https://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/28/18556018-judge-bars-evidence-for-now-in-george-zimmerman-trial?lite

    It appears this can be over come if they can show the evidence is not hear say on a case by case basis.  That isn't as bad as it sounded at first. 

    How can a judge not think information that is relevant to the case? 

     
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    Posted: May. 28, 2013 - 12:15 PM ET #17

    sorry, I cut off my own post:

    During a pre-trial hearing, Judge Debra Nelson said that during the trial she will consider motions to admit the evidence on a case-by-case basis outside the presence jurors who will decide if Zimmerman is guilty of second degree murder in the shooting death of Martin.

    Nelson rejected a defense request for a trial delay and ruled that it will start June 10

    https://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/28/18556018-judge-bars-evidence-for-now-in-george-zimmerman-trial?lite

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    sorry, I cut off my own post:

    During a pre-trial hearing, Judge Debra Nelson said that during the trial she will consider motions to admit the evidence on a case-by-case basis outside the presence jurors who will decide if Zimmerman is guilty of second degree murder in the shooting death of Martin.

    Nelson rejected a defense request for a trial delay and ruled that it will start June 10

    https://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/28/18556018-judge-bars-evidence-for-now-in-george-zimmerman-trial?lite

     
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    Posted: May. 28, 2013 - 12:44 PM ET #18

    Photos of this upstanding young man:

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-martin-drug-photos-mentioned-judge/story?id=19271093

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    Photos of this upstanding young man:

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-martin-drug-photos-mentioned-judge/story?id=19271093

     
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    Posted: May. 28, 2013 - 2:19 PM ET #19

    I would have to imagine this evidence is admitted on a case by case basis during the trial, just not during the opening statement.

    Absolutely no way this stays out with how the prosecution / media will be portraying Martin. 

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    I would have to imagine this evidence is admitted on a case by case basis during the trial, just not during the opening statement.

    Absolutely no way this stays out with how the prosecution / media will be portraying Martin. 

     
     
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    Posted: May. 28, 2013 - 3:52 PM ET #20

    These are clearly photos of someone else Trayvon was an innocent 13 year old boy.  
    Just look at the photos that the reliable news sources provided. 

    CNN, MSNBC etc.  

    Obviously these photos of someone else are not admissible. 
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    These are clearly photos of someone else Trayvon was an innocent 13 year old boy.  
    Just look at the photos that the reliable news sources provided. 

    CNN, MSNBC etc.  

    Obviously these photos of someone else are not admissible. 
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