He made a post that cops need an arrest warrant to arrest somebody for murder, rape and other felonies and every since i bitch slapped the piss out of him about this, hes been trying to spin his way out of his original post and coming up with all this other bullshit. I said this before, Covers should have a paid part of the site, that way all this idiots and aliases would be gone.
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Quote Originally Posted by DiscoD69:
This thread is beyond ridiculous.
you arent kidding
Da road is now a law school graduate
He made a post that cops need an arrest warrant to arrest somebody for murder, rape and other felonies and every since i bitch slapped the piss out of him about this, hes been trying to spin his way out of his original post and coming up with all this other bullshit. I said this before, Covers should have a paid part of the site, that way all this idiots and aliases would be gone.
14daroad, game , set , match. Way to use the known facts and logic.
Zimmerman is no hero and Martin is no saint. The facts are from the shooter and one eyewitness. The facts bear out the police decision to release Zimmerman and investigate further.
Now let's get ready for race riots ignited by the racists on both sides here. That will be a fitting end to this issue.
the botched investigation is the issue here
Zimmerman has a record of violence against police (see mugshot) + woman
Once Zimmerman was identified, did the police at the scene know about his record ?
there is a credibility issue becasue Zimmerman allegedly stated that he has a squeaky clean record
Why was Zimmerman given any credibility ?
no drug test, no alcohol test , self defense claim was good enough
911 recording reveals that Zimmerman started the whole shit, was told not to approach the "suspicious" individual
Trayvon is dead. He can't give his own version of the events
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Quote Originally Posted by drJ:
14daroad, game , set , match. Way to use the known facts and logic.
Zimmerman is no hero and Martin is no saint. The facts are from the shooter and one eyewitness. The facts bear out the police decision to release Zimmerman and investigate further.
Now let's get ready for race riots ignited by the racists on both sides here. That will be a fitting end to this issue.
the botched investigation is the issue here
Zimmerman has a record of violence against police (see mugshot) + woman
Once Zimmerman was identified, did the police at the scene know about his record ?
there is a credibility issue becasue Zimmerman allegedly stated that he has a squeaky clean record
Why was Zimmerman given any credibility ?
no drug test, no alcohol test , self defense claim was good enough
911 recording reveals that Zimmerman started the whole shit, was told not to approach the "suspicious" individual
Trayvon is dead. He can't give his own version of the events
And if I'm Zimmerman and I really didn't do anything wrong, I am quite upset by this because it allows for some of the false conclusions that are currently happening.
I've seen hundreds, if not thousands of investigative reports after shootings. Never have a seen one where the police refused to question the shooter, nor where no ballistic tests were conducted.
Never.
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Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:
the botched investigation is the issue here
This.
And if I'm Zimmerman and I really didn't do anything wrong, I am quite upset by this because it allows for some of the false conclusions that are currently happening.
I've seen hundreds, if not thousands of investigative reports after shootings. Never have a seen one where the police refused to question the shooter, nor where no ballistic tests were conducted.
Zimmerman calls 911 Tells dispatch there is a suspicious black man. Zimmerman says Martin is walking towards him. Dispatch says police are on the way. Zimmerman tells the dispatcher Martin is running towards the back entrance. After that, he mumbles under his breath, fucking person. Dispatch says are you following him? Zimmerman says YES! Dispatch says do not pursue. Zimmerman says OK.
Right there this should have been over.
Why Zimmerman didn’t wait in his car or drive away from the scene and go home? Somehow, Zimmerman says he can’t see him anymore. Zimmerman says he was in his car. Why did he get out? Why did he get out and look for Martin in the rain with a loaded weapon? Why was Zimmerman looking for Martin after being told not to? Zimmerman says he can’t see him anymore. According to police, this happened in about a minute. Although Zimmerman was so concerned about Martin's presence in the neighborhood. Zimmerman lost track of him and stopped looking for him in a matter of seconds? Zimmerman's story sounds like bullshit. Martin appeared out of nowhere like a horror film. Martin decided to attack Zimmerman with a bag of Skittles, a can of iced tea, and a cellphone? Why is Zimmerman looking for Martin since dispatch told him police were on the way? Again, Why was Zimmerman looking for Martin after being told not to? Zimmerman says BOOM Martin appears out of nowhere. And Martin has a bag of Skittles, a can of iced tea, and a cellphone. Zimmerman has a loaded weapon. Martin's girlfriend says he told her that Zimmerman was following him and that he was scared. She says she told Martin to try to get away, but she suddenly heard shoving before the phone went dead. Then a fight happens after being told to wait for the police and not to follow him. At this point is when witnesses are now looking outside and people are calling 911 about what they see and hear. On one 911 call a women says she hears Martin screaming. Another witness says she saw Martin on top of Zimmerman. None of this matters because if Zimmerman had done what dispatch told him to do then no one would have been shot and killed. What’s also fucked up is people are attacking the dispatcher? People actually say if they call 911 that they wouldn’t follow the dispatchers orders? The person we call when we are in trouble and is the conductor for all emergencies? This is what happens when being a wannabe cop vigilante goes wrong. The guy with a bag of Skittles, a can of iced tea, and a cellphone is the aggressor and the guy with a loaded gun is the victim? We have regressed as a society. Shit, you righties are some sick, deranged, callous, twisted fucks. By the way, I’m a Ron Paul supporter and a libertarian. I just call it like I see it.
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Facts:
Zimmerman calls 911 Tells dispatch there is a suspicious black man. Zimmerman says Martin is walking towards him. Dispatch says police are on the way. Zimmerman tells the dispatcher Martin is running towards the back entrance. After that, he mumbles under his breath, fucking person. Dispatch says are you following him? Zimmerman says YES! Dispatch says do not pursue. Zimmerman says OK.
Right there this should have been over.
Why Zimmerman didn’t wait in his car or drive away from the scene and go home? Somehow, Zimmerman says he can’t see him anymore. Zimmerman says he was in his car. Why did he get out? Why did he get out and look for Martin in the rain with a loaded weapon? Why was Zimmerman looking for Martin after being told not to? Zimmerman says he can’t see him anymore. According to police, this happened in about a minute. Although Zimmerman was so concerned about Martin's presence in the neighborhood. Zimmerman lost track of him and stopped looking for him in a matter of seconds? Zimmerman's story sounds like bullshit. Martin appeared out of nowhere like a horror film. Martin decided to attack Zimmerman with a bag of Skittles, a can of iced tea, and a cellphone? Why is Zimmerman looking for Martin since dispatch told him police were on the way? Again, Why was Zimmerman looking for Martin after being told not to? Zimmerman says BOOM Martin appears out of nowhere. And Martin has a bag of Skittles, a can of iced tea, and a cellphone. Zimmerman has a loaded weapon. Martin's girlfriend says he told her that Zimmerman was following him and that he was scared. She says she told Martin to try to get away, but she suddenly heard shoving before the phone went dead. Then a fight happens after being told to wait for the police and not to follow him. At this point is when witnesses are now looking outside and people are calling 911 about what they see and hear. On one 911 call a women says she hears Martin screaming. Another witness says she saw Martin on top of Zimmerman. None of this matters because if Zimmerman had done what dispatch told him to do then no one would have been shot and killed. What’s also fucked up is people are attacking the dispatcher? People actually say if they call 911 that they wouldn’t follow the dispatchers orders? The person we call when we are in trouble and is the conductor for all emergencies? This is what happens when being a wannabe cop vigilante goes wrong. The guy with a bag of Skittles, a can of iced tea, and a cellphone is the aggressor and the guy with a loaded gun is the victim? We have regressed as a society. Shit, you righties are some sick, deranged, callous, twisted fucks. By the way, I’m a Ron Paul supporter and a libertarian. I just call it like I see it.
And if I'm Zimmerman and I really didn't do anything wrong, I am quite upset by this because it allows for some of the false conclusions that are currently happening.
I've seen hundreds, if not thousands of investigative reports after shootings. Never have a seen one where the police refused to question the shooter, nor where no ballistic tests were conducted.
Never.
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Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:
This.
And if I'm Zimmerman and I really didn't do anything wrong, I am quite upset by this because it allows for some of the false conclusions that are currently happening.
I've seen hundreds, if not thousands of investigative reports after shootings. Never have a seen one where the police refused to question the shooter, nor where no ballistic tests were conducted.
Zimmerman calls 911 Tells dispatch there is a suspicious black man. Zimmerman says Martin is walking towards him. Dispatch says police are on the way. Zimmerman tells the dispatcher Martin is running towards the back entrance. After that, he mumbles under his breath, fucking person. Dispatch says are you following him? Zimmerman says YES! Dispatch says do not pursue. Zimmerman says OK.
Right there this should have been over.
Why Zimmerman didn’t wait in his car or drive away from the scene and go home? Somehow, Zimmerman says he can’t see him anymore. Zimmerman says he was in his car. Why did he get out? Why did he get out and look for Martin in the rain with a loaded weapon? Why was Zimmerman looking for Martin after being told not to? Zimmerman says he can’t see him anymore. According to police, this happened in about a minute. Although Zimmerman was so concerned about Martin's presence in the neighborhood. Zimmerman lost track of him and stopped looking for him in a matter of seconds? Zimmerman's story sounds like bullshit. Martin appeared out of nowhere like a horror film. Martin decided to attack Zimmerman with a bag of Skittles, a can of iced tea, and a cellphone? Why is Zimmerman looking for Martin since dispatch told him police were on the way? Again, Why was Zimmerman looking for Martin after being told not to? Zimmerman says BOOM Martin appears out of nowhere. And Martin has a bag of Skittles, a can of iced tea, and a cellphone. Zimmerman has a loaded weapon. Martin's girlfriend says he told her that Zimmerman was following him and that he was scared. She says she told Martin to try to get away, but she suddenly heard shoving before the phone went dead. Then a fight happens after being told to wait for the police and not to follow him. At this point is when witnesses are now looking outside and people are calling 911 about what they see and hear. On one 911 call a women says she hears Martin screaming. Another witness says she saw Martin on top of Zimmerman. None of this matters because if Zimmerman had done what dispatch told him to do then no one would have been shot and killed. What’s also fucked up is people are attacking the dispatcher? People actually say if they call 911 that they wouldn’t follow the dispatchers orders? The person we call when we are in trouble and is the conductor for all emergencies? This is what happens when being a wannabe cop vigilante goes wrong. The guy with a bag of Skittles, a can of iced tea, and a cellphone is the aggressor and the guy with a loaded gun is the victim? We have regressed as a society. Shit, you righties are some sick, deranged, callous, twisted fucks. By the way, I’m a Ron Paul supporter and a libertarian. I just call it like I see it.
you had me until youre 3rd to last sentence and im a Ron Paul guy too.
there is a flow sheet dispatchers have and dont get involved is always the advice if a potential criminal is there.
zimmerman most likely did not listen and said something to the kid who decided to fight
zimmerman, tracking him. aggressive by his actions and possibly words.
legally he can have a gun and still act that way per fla law
how the fight started after this we may never know and zimmerman would be expected to spin it in his favor for sure.
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Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:
Facts:
Zimmerman calls 911 Tells dispatch there is a suspicious black man. Zimmerman says Martin is walking towards him. Dispatch says police are on the way. Zimmerman tells the dispatcher Martin is running towards the back entrance. After that, he mumbles under his breath, fucking person. Dispatch says are you following him? Zimmerman says YES! Dispatch says do not pursue. Zimmerman says OK.
Right there this should have been over.
Why Zimmerman didn’t wait in his car or drive away from the scene and go home? Somehow, Zimmerman says he can’t see him anymore. Zimmerman says he was in his car. Why did he get out? Why did he get out and look for Martin in the rain with a loaded weapon? Why was Zimmerman looking for Martin after being told not to? Zimmerman says he can’t see him anymore. According to police, this happened in about a minute. Although Zimmerman was so concerned about Martin's presence in the neighborhood. Zimmerman lost track of him and stopped looking for him in a matter of seconds? Zimmerman's story sounds like bullshit. Martin appeared out of nowhere like a horror film. Martin decided to attack Zimmerman with a bag of Skittles, a can of iced tea, and a cellphone? Why is Zimmerman looking for Martin since dispatch told him police were on the way? Again, Why was Zimmerman looking for Martin after being told not to? Zimmerman says BOOM Martin appears out of nowhere. And Martin has a bag of Skittles, a can of iced tea, and a cellphone. Zimmerman has a loaded weapon. Martin's girlfriend says he told her that Zimmerman was following him and that he was scared. She says she told Martin to try to get away, but she suddenly heard shoving before the phone went dead. Then a fight happens after being told to wait for the police and not to follow him. At this point is when witnesses are now looking outside and people are calling 911 about what they see and hear. On one 911 call a women says she hears Martin screaming. Another witness says she saw Martin on top of Zimmerman. None of this matters because if Zimmerman had done what dispatch told him to do then no one would have been shot and killed. What’s also fucked up is people are attacking the dispatcher? People actually say if they call 911 that they wouldn’t follow the dispatchers orders? The person we call when we are in trouble and is the conductor for all emergencies? This is what happens when being a wannabe cop vigilante goes wrong. The guy with a bag of Skittles, a can of iced tea, and a cellphone is the aggressor and the guy with a loaded gun is the victim? We have regressed as a society. Shit, you righties are some sick, deranged, callous, twisted fucks. By the way, I’m a Ron Paul supporter and a libertarian. I just call it like I see it.
you had me until youre 3rd to last sentence and im a Ron Paul guy too.
there is a flow sheet dispatchers have and dont get involved is always the advice if a potential criminal is there.
zimmerman most likely did not listen and said something to the kid who decided to fight
zimmerman, tracking him. aggressive by his actions and possibly words.
legally he can have a gun and still act that way per fla law
how the fight started after this we may never know and zimmerman would be expected to spin it in his favor for sure.
you had me until youre 3rd to last sentence and im a Ron Paul guy too.
there is a flow sheet dispatchers have and dont get involved is always the advice if a potential criminal is there.
zimmerman most likely did not listen and said something to the kid who decided to fight
zimmerman, tracking him. aggressive by his actions and possibly words.
legally he can have a gun and still act that way per fla law
how the fight started after this we may never know and zimmerman would be expected to spin it in his favor for sure.
I never trust a person who commits a crime. They will say whatever it takes to go home.
I stand by my statement.
The righties on here are some sick, deranged, callous, twisted fucks.
Today’s Democrats follow Fidel Castro’s ideology. Today’s Republicans follow Adolf Hitler’s ideology. There are politicians that currently resemble both. Both are wrong. Everyone is blinded by propaganda to even notice it. Ron Paul follows Abraham Lincoln’s ideology. Abraham Lincoln was the greatest president to ever live. Ron Paul is a one-man party and represents Abraham Lincoln’s Party not the Republican Party of today. Both sides hate Ron Paul. That makes me like Ron Paul even more. That's why I'm an Independent/Liberal/Conservative/Libertarian
My Historical/Global/Cultural studies and observational skills lead me to this conclusion.
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Quote Originally Posted by drJ:
you had me until youre 3rd to last sentence and im a Ron Paul guy too.
there is a flow sheet dispatchers have and dont get involved is always the advice if a potential criminal is there.
zimmerman most likely did not listen and said something to the kid who decided to fight
zimmerman, tracking him. aggressive by his actions and possibly words.
legally he can have a gun and still act that way per fla law
how the fight started after this we may never know and zimmerman would be expected to spin it in his favor for sure.
I never trust a person who commits a crime. They will say whatever it takes to go home.
I stand by my statement.
The righties on here are some sick, deranged, callous, twisted fucks.
Today’s Democrats follow Fidel Castro’s ideology. Today’s Republicans follow Adolf Hitler’s ideology. There are politicians that currently resemble both. Both are wrong. Everyone is blinded by propaganda to even notice it. Ron Paul follows Abraham Lincoln’s ideology. Abraham Lincoln was the greatest president to ever live. Ron Paul is a one-man party and represents Abraham Lincoln’s Party not the Republican Party of today. Both sides hate Ron Paul. That makes me like Ron Paul even more. That's why I'm an Independent/Liberal/Conservative/Libertarian
My Historical/Global/Cultural studies and observational skills lead me to this conclusion.
He made a post that cops need an arrest warrant to arrest somebody for murder, rape and other felonies
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Absolute lie.
Please point out where I said that.
Please.
nd every since i bitch slapped the piss out of him about this, hes been trying to spin his way out of his original post and coming up with all this other bullshit.
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I rather enjoy you "bitch slapping" things I never said.
It speaks volumes about your intellect.
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He made a post that cops need an arrest warrant to arrest somebody for murder, rape and other felonies
======================
Absolute lie.
Please point out where I said that.
Please.
nd every since i bitch slapped the piss out of him about this, hes been trying to spin his way out of his original post and coming up with all this other bullshit.
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I rather enjoy you "bitch slapping" things I never said.
And if I'm Zimmerman and I really didn't do anything wrong, I am quite upset by this because it allows for some of the false conclusions that are currently happening.
I've seen hundreds, if not thousands of investigative reports after shootings. Never have a seen one where the police refused to question the shooter, nor where no ballistic tests were conducted.
Never.
exactly They botched the whole thing up. Could it have anything to do with his father being a judge
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Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:
This.
And if I'm Zimmerman and I really didn't do anything wrong, I am quite upset by this because it allows for some of the false conclusions that are currently happening.
I've seen hundreds, if not thousands of investigative reports after shootings. Never have a seen one where the police refused to question the shooter, nor where no ballistic tests were conducted.
Never.
exactly They botched the whole thing up. Could it have anything to do with his father being a judge
And if I'm Zimmerman and I really didn't do anything wrong, I am quite upset by this because it allows for some of the false conclusions that are currently happening.
I've seen hundreds, if not thousands of investigative reports after shootings. Never have a seen one where the police refused to question the shooter, nor where no ballistic tests were conducted.
Never.
Silly little liar:
If the police "refused to question" Zimmerman, how did they get a statement from him and why was he handcuffed and taken to the police station?
Duh.
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Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:
This.
And if I'm Zimmerman and I really didn't do anything wrong, I am quite upset by this because it allows for some of the false conclusions that are currently happening.
I've seen hundreds, if not thousands of investigative reports after shootings. Never have a seen one where the police refused to question the shooter, nor where no ballistic tests were conducted.
Never.
Silly little liar:
If the police "refused to question" Zimmerman, how did they get a statement from him and why was he handcuffed and taken to the police station?
wrong once again mets, stick to changing tires on your rig
Please cite me an instance where a police officer acting alone, with no consultation or representation by a DA obtains a warrant for a felony arrest.
Please.
I can't wait to see you prove me wrong.
Really. You're like so smart with your high skool education and you should be so excited to prove the "dumb Republican" wrong in front of your silly Internet friends.
So please do so.
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Quote Originally Posted by cd329:
wrong once again mets, stick to changing tires on your rig
Please cite me an instance where a police officer acting alone, with no consultation or representation by a DA obtains a warrant for a felony arrest.
Please.
I can't wait to see you prove me wrong.
Really. You're like so smart with your high skool education and you should be so excited to prove the "dumb Republican" wrong in front of your silly Internet friends.
He made a post that cops need an arrest warrant to arrest somebody for murder, rape and other felonies
======================
Absolute lie.
Please point out where I said that.
Please.
nd every since i bitch slapped the piss out of him about this, hes been trying to spin his way out of his original post and coming up with all this other bullshit.
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I rather enjoy you "bitch slapping" things I never said.
It speaks volumes about your intellect.
In post 86 mets, you said that the cops consult with the DA before making an arrest for murder, rape and other felonies. This 100 percent not true. The cops make arrests for those crimes everyday without contacting the DA at all.
mets stick to working your trade at the truck stops
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Quote Originally Posted by 14daroad:
He made a post that cops need an arrest warrant to arrest somebody for murder, rape and other felonies
======================
Absolute lie.
Please point out where I said that.
Please.
nd every since i bitch slapped the piss out of him about this, hes been trying to spin his way out of his original post and coming up with all this other bullshit.
=============
I rather enjoy you "bitch slapping" things I never said.
It speaks volumes about your intellect.
In post 86 mets, you said that the cops consult with the DA before making an arrest for murder, rape and other felonies. This 100 percent not true. The cops make arrests for those crimes everyday without contacting the DA at all.
mets stick to working your trade at the truck stops
Please cite me an instance where a police officer acting alone, with no consultation or representation by a DA obtains a warrant for a felony arrest.
Please.
I can't wait to see you prove me wrong.
Really. You're like so smart with your high skool education and you should be so excited to prove the "dumb Republican" wrong in front of your silly Internet friends.
So please do so.
I do believe the police can request an arrest warrant from the court, to have a judge approve it. Copies only need be sent to the DA'S office
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Quote Originally Posted by 14daroad:
Please cite me an instance where a police officer acting alone, with no consultation or representation by a DA obtains a warrant for a felony arrest.
Please.
I can't wait to see you prove me wrong.
Really. You're like so smart with your high skool education and you should be so excited to prove the "dumb Republican" wrong in front of your silly Internet friends.
So please do so.
I do believe the police can request an arrest warrant from the court, to have a judge approve it. Copies only need be sent to the DA'S office
(1) The police ask a judge to issue an arrest
warrant on the grounds that there’s probable cause that the suspect committed a
crime,
or
(2) A defendant or witness fails to show up for
court, so the judge issues an arrest warrant for that person. (These are called
“bench warrants” since the judge issues them while sitting in court.)
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Arrest Warrants
Arrest warrants generally arise when
either:
(1) The police ask a judge to issue an arrest
warrant on the grounds that there’s probable cause that the suspect committed a
crime,
or
(2) A defendant or witness fails to show up for
court, so the judge issues an arrest warrant for that person. (These are called
“bench warrants” since the judge issues them while sitting in court.)
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