German foreign minister Johann ?Wadephul said: “I ?don't see that Nato has made ?any decision in ?this direction ?or could assume ?responsibility for the Strait of Hormuz. If that ?were the case, ?then the Nato bodies would address it accordingly.”
The UK has also expressed an unwillingness to involve Nato, with Sir Keir Starmer saying that it “won’t be and it's never been envisioned to be a Nato mission.” Meanwhile, Greece has refused any military involvement in the Persian waterway and Italy has called for diplomacy to prevail.
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German foreign minister Johann ?Wadephul said: “I ?don't see that Nato has made ?any decision in ?this direction ?or could assume ?responsibility for the Strait of Hormuz. If that ?were the case, ?then the Nato bodies would address it accordingly.”
The UK has also expressed an unwillingness to involve Nato, with Sir Keir Starmer saying that it “won’t be and it's never been envisioned to be a Nato mission.” Meanwhile, Greece has refused any military involvement in the Persian waterway and Italy has called for diplomacy to prevail.
NATO is an organization and that means collaboration, Trump has no comprehension of collaboration. NATO did not decide to start a war with Iran, that was Israel forcing Trump to do their bidding so why in any universe would Trump think NATO would puppy trail Trump and do what he wants when he could care less what the other NATO countries think?
NATO is an organization and that means collaboration, Trump has no comprehension of collaboration. NATO did not decide to start a war with Iran, that was Israel forcing Trump to do their bidding so why in any universe would Trump think NATO would puppy trail Trump and do what he wants when he could care less what the other NATO countries think?
And he thinks threats are the answer to his problem, he is so over his head here and now TACO DON will be whining daily, no one to bail him out at this point. Could be the first time for him since all he is is a bully and Iran has already called his bluff, sad part is American's have to die because he had a feeling in his bones Iran was going to attack us. Is he going to schedule a press conf. every day to cry that nobody will help him with his problems, he has a fox contributor running the Pentagon because he also paid off a women that accused him of rape at the Hyatt in Monterey Calif., birds of a feather and all that. FUCK TRUMP
And he thinks threats are the answer to his problem, he is so over his head here and now TACO DON will be whining daily, no one to bail him out at this point. Could be the first time for him since all he is is a bully and Iran has already called his bluff, sad part is American's have to die because he had a feeling in his bones Iran was going to attack us. Is he going to schedule a press conf. every day to cry that nobody will help him with his problems, he has a fox contributor running the Pentagon because he also paid off a women that accused him of rape at the Hyatt in Monterey Calif., birds of a feather and all that. FUCK TRUMP
What doesn’t understand and no one in his inner circle have the balls tell him is that NATO is and remains a defence alliance, and just because those MAGA idiots have renamed their Department of Defense the Department of War doesn’t mean that NATO automatically participates in wars that violate international law. Trumps bit off more than chew he’s asking them to get involved in this….. which they will not! I agree with them let Trump and Israel suffer the consequences of bad decisions! Trumps is getting the middle finger from around the free world!
What doesn’t understand and no one in his inner circle have the balls tell him is that NATO is and remains a defence alliance, and just because those MAGA idiots have renamed their Department of Defense the Department of War doesn’t mean that NATO automatically participates in wars that violate international law. Trumps bit off more than chew he’s asking them to get involved in this….. which they will not! I agree with them let Trump and Israel suffer the consequences of bad decisions! Trumps is getting the middle finger from around the free world!
Less than a week ago - Trump told Starmer he didn’t want his help because you had essentially already won - that you guys didn’t need losers joining you when you already had won - it is your guys attitude about everything - for a year now - you have done nothing but belittering us and try to sell our lives and freedom for profit - it would be political suicide for any European leader to go out and support you in an illegal war (in the current political climate) - this is a road we have gone down before - and your sitting president actually has already dissed our contribution then
Don't mention the frogs - we don't want to scare the toddler - we want him to sleep
Less than a week ago - Trump told Starmer he didn’t want his help because you had essentially already won - that you guys didn’t need losers joining you when you already had won - it is your guys attitude about everything - for a year now - you have done nothing but belittering us and try to sell our lives and freedom for profit - it would be political suicide for any European leader to go out and support you in an illegal war (in the current political climate) - this is a road we have gone down before - and your sitting president actually has already dissed our contribution then
I know you are joking - but it is actually kind of wild how many gay people are in Trumps cabinet (almost every male person in Trumps orbit are either openly gay or 100% just using a trophy wife to hide the fact that they are) I have absolutely nothing against gay people - but damn son - I call it already - when all these losers are dead and gone - the history books will refer to them as “the gay administration”
Don't mention the frogs - we don't want to scare the toddler - we want him to sleep
I know you are joking - but it is actually kind of wild how many gay people are in Trumps cabinet (almost every male person in Trumps orbit are either openly gay or 100% just using a trophy wife to hide the fact that they are) I have absolutely nothing against gay people - but damn son - I call it already - when all these losers are dead and gone - the history books will refer to them as “the gay administration”
Illegal war....that's funny.....couldn't the same be said about the regime that was obliterated? I mean, let's not completely ignore the fact that they have been responsible for the death of many innocent American lives...let's not play dumb and act like Iran hasn't been flexing it's pathetic muscle towards America and those in the Middle East for some time now....even on our own soil.....
Nothing illegal about what is happening unless you are trying to come up with some bogus claim for which you would have to look at both the left and the right to see that the very same thing was done when your boy was in office.....
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Illegal war....that's funny.....couldn't the same be said about the regime that was obliterated? I mean, let's not completely ignore the fact that they have been responsible for the death of many innocent American lives...let's not play dumb and act like Iran hasn't been flexing it's pathetic muscle towards America and those in the Middle East for some time now....even on our own soil.....
Nothing illegal about what is happening unless you are trying to come up with some bogus claim for which you would have to look at both the left and the right to see that the very same thing was done when your boy was in office.....
Senator Lindsay "Lady" Graham was heard saying "we're going to blow the hell out of these people in Iran." Everyone relaxed when they realized he wasn't talking about weapons.
Ooooooo, God's gonna make ya burn for that one, Midnight1... LOL
Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
Senator Lindsay "Lady" Graham was heard saying "we're going to blow the hell out of these people in Iran." Everyone relaxed when they realized he wasn't talking about weapons.
Ooooooo, God's gonna make ya burn for that one, Midnight1... LOL
Trump's Iran war is clearly illegal. Under US law, Constitution requires congress approval first. Presidents authority to use force is limited to emergency self defense. Not revenge for past attacks by Iran. US intelligence found no evidence of imminent threat. Under international law, United nations charter prohibits use of force except in self defense or when authorized by United nations. War to prevent Iran from potentially developing a nuclear weapon is widely rejected as justification. Unprovoked war is an act of aggression. Past abuses by other presidents do not justify Trump wars.
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Illegal war.........
Trump's Iran war is clearly illegal. Under US law, Constitution requires congress approval first. Presidents authority to use force is limited to emergency self defense. Not revenge for past attacks by Iran. US intelligence found no evidence of imminent threat. Under international law, United nations charter prohibits use of force except in self defense or when authorized by United nations. War to prevent Iran from potentially developing a nuclear weapon is widely rejected as justification. Unprovoked war is an act of aggression. Past abuses by other presidents do not justify Trump wars.
The most divisive president in US history insults and threatens allies. No surprise other presidents are more successful in getting NATO countries to help the US in Iraq and Afghanistan. According to national security advisor Bolton, mistake for Trump to not consult with allies and American people before recklessly launching unpopular war that makes the world less safe. Now no NATO country wants to be dragged into his illegal and unnecessary war. Better to have allies instead of none in wars.
The most divisive president in US history insults and threatens allies. No surprise other presidents are more successful in getting NATO countries to help the US in Iraq and Afghanistan. According to national security advisor Bolton, mistake for Trump to not consult with allies and American people before recklessly launching unpopular war that makes the world less safe. Now no NATO country wants to be dragged into his illegal and unnecessary war. Better to have allies instead of none in wars.
Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare: illegal war......... Trump's Iran war is clearly illegal. Under US law, Constitution requires congress approval first.
Simply not true and just shows you how misinformed you are....many Presidents have exercised their executive power to start wars, including both left and right wing Presidents....you can't keep simply saying the same thing over and over again when it is not true nor accurate...the way our system is set up 100% allows a President to start a war and therefore it is not illegal...is our system broken, yes, but you can't complain and argue that the war in Iran is illegal when it is is not...this President exercised his right to act on his Presidential power to start what he did....you, and others, can say whatever you want but history is not on your side and the language seems quite clear that he was well within the guidelines to start the war....now, in having said that, you can be upset that the power is granted to ANY President to do this, but this is all you can gripe about....many changes for this language to be revised and not one person is touching it to change it....
You can lose the illegal war chant because there is nothing there to say this is accurate....it's a loophole in our system that was used to do what has been been done and if you are going to gripe about the current President then you would have to have the same gripe about other President's from your side who have exercised the same right....focus on changing the language in the system not directing it as if the current President did anything out of the norm from any of his predecessors...
COVERS allows u to tell someone they are sexually frustrated so long as ur hands are clean
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare: illegal war......... Trump's Iran war is clearly illegal. Under US law, Constitution requires congress approval first.
Simply not true and just shows you how misinformed you are....many Presidents have exercised their executive power to start wars, including both left and right wing Presidents....you can't keep simply saying the same thing over and over again when it is not true nor accurate...the way our system is set up 100% allows a President to start a war and therefore it is not illegal...is our system broken, yes, but you can't complain and argue that the war in Iran is illegal when it is is not...this President exercised his right to act on his Presidential power to start what he did....you, and others, can say whatever you want but history is not on your side and the language seems quite clear that he was well within the guidelines to start the war....now, in having said that, you can be upset that the power is granted to ANY President to do this, but this is all you can gripe about....many changes for this language to be revised and not one person is touching it to change it....
You can lose the illegal war chant because there is nothing there to say this is accurate....it's a loophole in our system that was used to do what has been been done and if you are going to gripe about the current President then you would have to have the same gripe about other President's from your side who have exercised the same right....focus on changing the language in the system not directing it as if the current President did anything out of the norm from any of his predecessors...
We should enlist all of the MAGA Florida boaters from those boat parades to escort ships through the Strait of Hormuz. The solution is right there in front of Mar-a-Lago.
We should enlist all of the MAGA Florida boaters from those boat parades to escort ships through the Strait of Hormuz. The solution is right there in front of Mar-a-Lago.
Ooooooo, God's gonna make ya 
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