Special Counsel Robert Mueller's much-anticipated report -- the product
of nearly two years of investigation -- has now been handed to the
Justice Department for Attorney General Bill Barr's review.
After reviewing Mueller's report, Barr will then send what he has
described as his own "report" on the Mueller investigation to the top
Democrats and Republicans on the House and Senate judiciary committees.
President Trump's legal team issued the following statement:
"We're pleased that the Office of Special Counsel has delivered its
report to the Attorney General pursuant to the regulations. Attorney
General Barr will determine the appropriate next steps."
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Special Counsel Robert Mueller's much-anticipated report -- the product
of nearly two years of investigation -- has now been handed to the
Justice Department for Attorney General Bill Barr's review.
After reviewing Mueller's report, Barr will then send what he has
described as his own "report" on the Mueller investigation to the top
Democrats and Republicans on the House and Senate judiciary committees.
President Trump's legal team issued the following statement:
"We're pleased that the Office of Special Counsel has delivered its
report to the Attorney General pursuant to the regulations. Attorney
General Barr will determine the appropriate next steps."
Will the report answer the questions ... Did Trump's campaign collude with the Kremlin to sway the 2016
presidential election in favor of Donald Trump..?
President Trump take steps later, including by firing his FBI director, to
obstruct the probe?
Over the 21-month investigation, Mueller has brought charges against 34
people, including six aides and advisers to the president, and three
companies.
Will the report answer the questions ... Did Trump's campaign collude with the Kremlin to sway the 2016
presidential election in favor of Donald Trump..?
President Trump take steps later, including by firing his FBI director, to
obstruct the probe?
Over the 21-month investigation, Mueller has brought charges against 34
people, including six aides and advisers to the president, and three
companies.
I have a couple of questions I hope get answered. Why didn't Mueller interview Trump in person? Will we get to see the whole report (minus classified data) or a sanitized version? Are there more big lies that will be exposed? What did Mueller find when he crossed Trump's demarcation line? How many potential investigations did Mueller farm out to states?
I think he didn't interview him in person because nothing in his findings warranted him interviewing Trump personally. If there was a road leading that way, i'm sure he would've explored it but he must've found there wasn't anything indictable. This is how federal invesyigation works. They investigate, investigate, investigate, look under every rock, cross every t, dot every i and when it's all said and done, if there is enough to indict and convict, they go forward. If it's iffy, like maybe a crime took place, they don't waste their time. Collusion was never gonna be proven. It's harder than shyt to prove collusion. Mueller did his job, went through with his investigation, and the crimes he did find were just the collateral damage. I know a lot of conservatives who buy into the tin foil conspiracies thought Mueller was some "deep state" plant but he was really just a fed doing his job in the way that feds do. Always seemed unbiased to me and I always wondered why some conservatives were so hoatile towards him. Like it was his idea to start this investigation. Does anyone think he really wanted any parts of this? He's old school. He did the job he was tasked with the best he knew how. When it comes to light that there was no collusion (again, doesn't mean there wasn't. Means it's unprovable) it won't mean that Mueller lost. He was impartial from the start. It will however be a win for Trump. And if you need a loser to have a winner, and if Mueller isn't the loser, then the default loser is the democratic party.
R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
I have a couple of questions I hope get answered. Why didn't Mueller interview Trump in person? Will we get to see the whole report (minus classified data) or a sanitized version? Are there more big lies that will be exposed? What did Mueller find when he crossed Trump's demarcation line? How many potential investigations did Mueller farm out to states?
I think he didn't interview him in person because nothing in his findings warranted him interviewing Trump personally. If there was a road leading that way, i'm sure he would've explored it but he must've found there wasn't anything indictable. This is how federal invesyigation works. They investigate, investigate, investigate, look under every rock, cross every t, dot every i and when it's all said and done, if there is enough to indict and convict, they go forward. If it's iffy, like maybe a crime took place, they don't waste their time. Collusion was never gonna be proven. It's harder than shyt to prove collusion. Mueller did his job, went through with his investigation, and the crimes he did find were just the collateral damage. I know a lot of conservatives who buy into the tin foil conspiracies thought Mueller was some "deep state" plant but he was really just a fed doing his job in the way that feds do. Always seemed unbiased to me and I always wondered why some conservatives were so hoatile towards him. Like it was his idea to start this investigation. Does anyone think he really wanted any parts of this? He's old school. He did the job he was tasked with the best he knew how. When it comes to light that there was no collusion (again, doesn't mean there wasn't. Means it's unprovable) it won't mean that Mueller lost. He was impartial from the start. It will however be a win for Trump. And if you need a loser to have a winner, and if Mueller isn't the loser, then the default loser is the democratic party.
And you know you won't see an unredacted report, if you see any report.
You should also know that there aren't any big secrets coming down the pipe because if there were there would be more indictments coming down the pipe with it.
R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
And you know you won't see an unredacted report, if you see any report.
You should also know that there aren't any big secrets coming down the pipe because if there were there would be more indictments coming down the pipe with it.
Did she really or are you joking? I absolutely never advocate hitting a woman under any circumstance, even if she hits you first but if I did.....
Doesn't Rachel Maddow have a punchable face? I've said that about a million men in my life. Maybe two women, including Rachel.
Be careful Stu.. that's a man, baby! She would probably punch you back...
You are so right in your synopsis of what happened.
esp.:
"He did the job he was tasked with the best he knew how. When it comes
to light that there was no collusion (again, doesn't mean there wasn't.
Means it's unprovable) it won't mean that Mueller lost. He was impartial
from the start. It will however be a win for Trump."
'It's not what you know ,but what you you can prove'.. ~ Denzel Washington in Training Day
Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:
Did she really or are you joking? I absolutely never advocate hitting a woman under any circumstance, even if she hits you first but if I did.....
Doesn't Rachel Maddow have a punchable face? I've said that about a million men in my life. Maybe two women, including Rachel.
Be careful Stu.. that's a man, baby! She would probably punch you back...
You are so right in your synopsis of what happened.
esp.:
"He did the job he was tasked with the best he knew how. When it comes
to light that there was no collusion (again, doesn't mean there wasn't.
Means it's unprovable) it won't mean that Mueller lost. He was impartial
from the start. It will however be a win for Trump."
'It's not what you know ,but what you you can prove'.. ~ Denzel Washington in Training Day
There will be plenty more indictments.Muellers scope was only trump-russia.. And why should we believe anything Mueller says? At least isn't that what the liar and thief in the WH said the last 15 mo?
There will be plenty more indictments.Muellers scope was only trump-russia.. And why should we believe anything Mueller says? At least isn't that what the liar and thief in the WH said the last 15 mo?
There will be plenty more indictments.Muellers scope was only trump-russia.. And why should we believe anything Mueller says? At least isn't that what the liar and thief in the WH said the last 15 mo?
How man more? I say zero. You spit out a number. Let's see who is closest.
R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:
There will be plenty more indictments.Muellers scope was only trump-russia.. And why should we believe anything Mueller says? At least isn't that what the liar and thief in the WH said the last 15 mo?
How man more? I say zero. You spit out a number. Let's see who is closest.
The truly funny thing is democrats, putting all their eggs in the Russia probe basket, are now left without a platform. When will they learn that the American people want a candidate that takes stands on issues. That has a platform. Hillary's whole platform was, "Trump bad. Grab coochie. Anybody support Trump deplorable." How did that work out?
R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
The truly funny thing is democrats, putting all their eggs in the Russia probe basket, are now left without a platform. When will they learn that the American people want a candidate that takes stands on issues. That has a platform. Hillary's whole platform was, "Trump bad. Grab coochie. Anybody support Trump deplorable." How did that work out?
Takeaway,,,now that the Mueller investigation has concluded..
President Trump was not indicted and there was no recommended indictments against him for collusion or obstruction ..and no American was charged with conspiring with Moscow to hijack the 2016 election ..
However,,President Trump and his team still are other legal threats from cases winding through the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Manhattan.
Takeaway,,,now that the Mueller investigation has concluded..
President Trump was not indicted and there was no recommended indictments against him for collusion or obstruction ..and no American was charged with conspiring with Moscow to hijack the 2016 election ..
However,,President Trump and his team still are other legal threats from cases winding through the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Manhattan.
The truly funny thing is democrats, putting all their eggs in the Russia probe basket, are now left without a platform. When will they learn that the American people want a candidate that takes stands on issues. That has a platform. Hillary's whole platform was, "Trump bad. Grab coochie. Anybody support Trump deplorable." How did that work out?
Okay but how did the Democrats fare in the midterms? Was it just a historic norm? This isn't 2016. I was one of the rare people who conclusively said more than a year ago that Trump wouldn't be indicted. My best guess was that Trump intentionally separated himself enough from the process so that nothing could definitively tie him to communications with Russians. You do understand it sounds ridiculous to the public that everyone in Trump's administration happened to have connections they were hiding, but somehow Trump just didn't know a single damn thing ever taking place. Yes, that is so plausible.
It doesn't matter because I am offering the opposite opinion of yours. I believe Trump is damaging the brand name of Republicans every day. He does not look like someone who's calm and mature. He's petulant and can't shut up for a single day. He's likely angering real moderates and independents who aren't exactly thrilled when he's picking fights with someone who's dead. I will assert until the results of election day in 2020 that Trump supporters are the loudmouth minority, not the silent majority. If I'm dead wrong, then I'll choke on my words and apologize.
Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:
The truly funny thing is democrats, putting all their eggs in the Russia probe basket, are now left without a platform. When will they learn that the American people want a candidate that takes stands on issues. That has a platform. Hillary's whole platform was, "Trump bad. Grab coochie. Anybody support Trump deplorable." How did that work out?
Okay but how did the Democrats fare in the midterms? Was it just a historic norm? This isn't 2016. I was one of the rare people who conclusively said more than a year ago that Trump wouldn't be indicted. My best guess was that Trump intentionally separated himself enough from the process so that nothing could definitively tie him to communications with Russians. You do understand it sounds ridiculous to the public that everyone in Trump's administration happened to have connections they were hiding, but somehow Trump just didn't know a single damn thing ever taking place. Yes, that is so plausible.
It doesn't matter because I am offering the opposite opinion of yours. I believe Trump is damaging the brand name of Republicans every day. He does not look like someone who's calm and mature. He's petulant and can't shut up for a single day. He's likely angering real moderates and independents who aren't exactly thrilled when he's picking fights with someone who's dead. I will assert until the results of election day in 2020 that Trump supporters are the loudmouth minority, not the silent majority. If I'm dead wrong, then I'll choke on my words and apologize.
Okay but how did the Democrats fare in the midterms? Was it just a historic norm? This isn't 2016. I was one of the rare people who conclusively said more than a year ago that Trump wouldn't be indicted. My best guess was that Trump intentionally separated himself enough from the process so that nothing could definitively tie him to communications with Russians. You do understand it sounds ridiculous to the public that everyone in Trump's administration happened to have connections they were hiding, but somehow Trump just didn't know a single damn thing ever taking place. Yes, that is so plausible.
It doesn't matter because I am offering the opposite opinion of yours. I believe Trump is damaging the brand name of Republicans every day. He does not look like someone who's calm and mature. He's petulant and can't shut up for a single day. He's likely angering real moderates and independents who aren't exactly thrilled when he's picking fights with someone who's dead. I will assert until the results of election day in 2020 that Trump supporters are the loudmouth minority, not the silent majority. If I'm dead wrong, then I'll choke on my words and apologize.
There are bunch of legal investigations still pending vs Donald J Trump, his family and Organization in SDNY, Virginia Fed as well as NY State AG.
Trump Should Worry About the Southern District of New York More Than Mueller, (Chris) Christie Says
There is little or no doubt that Chris Christie and Fortune are NO fake news.
Quote Originally Posted by sicknesscity:
Okay but how did the Democrats fare in the midterms? Was it just a historic norm? This isn't 2016. I was one of the rare people who conclusively said more than a year ago that Trump wouldn't be indicted. My best guess was that Trump intentionally separated himself enough from the process so that nothing could definitively tie him to communications with Russians. You do understand it sounds ridiculous to the public that everyone in Trump's administration happened to have connections they were hiding, but somehow Trump just didn't know a single damn thing ever taking place. Yes, that is so plausible.
It doesn't matter because I am offering the opposite opinion of yours. I believe Trump is damaging the brand name of Republicans every day. He does not look like someone who's calm and mature. He's petulant and can't shut up for a single day. He's likely angering real moderates and independents who aren't exactly thrilled when he's picking fights with someone who's dead. I will assert until the results of election day in 2020 that Trump supporters are the loudmouth minority, not the silent majority. If I'm dead wrong, then I'll choke on my words and apologize.
There are bunch of legal investigations still pending vs Donald J Trump, his family and Organization in SDNY, Virginia Fed as well as NY State AG.
Trump Should Worry About the Southern District of New York More Than Mueller, (Chris) Christie Says
Fake News 24-7 for 2 years... The 0 Administration fixed the Hillary investigation or I'm sorry "matter", then with the help of John McCain bore false witness with the dem candidate to slander the future POTUS.... Good luck with your Socialist out of touch moronic candidates... Can't wait for the dem debates.
Trump wins in 2020 easily...
Live with it losers...
Fake News 24-7 for 2 years... The 0 Administration fixed the Hillary investigation or I'm sorry "matter", then with the help of John McCain bore false witness with the dem candidate to slander the future POTUS.... Good luck with your Socialist out of touch moronic candidates... Can't wait for the dem debates.
The truly funny thing is democrats, putting all their eggs in the Russia probe basket, are now left without a platform. When will they learn that the American people want a candidate that takes stands on issues. That has a platform. Hillary's whole platform was, "Trump bad. Grab coochie. Anybody support Trump deplorable." How did that work out?
Okay but how did the Democrats fare in the midterms? Was it just a historic norm? This isn't 2016. I was one of the rare people who conclusively said more than a year ago that Trump wouldn't be indicted. My best guess was that Trump intentionally separated himself enough from the process so that nothing could definitively tie him to communications with Russians. You do understand it sounds ridiculous to the public that everyone in Trump's administration happened to have connections they were hiding, but somehow Trump just didn't know a single damn thing ever taking place. Yes, that is so plausible. It doesn't matter because I am offering the opposite opinion of yours. I believe Trump is damaging the brand name of Republicans every day. He does not look like someone who's calm and mature. He's petulant and can't shut up for a single day. He's likely angering real moderates and independents who aren't exactly thrilled when he's picking fights with someone who's dead. I will assert until the results of election day in 2020 that Trump supporters are the loudmouth minority, not the silent majority. If I'm dead wrong, then I'll choke on my words and apologize.
Yes, but the silent majority is just that. Silent. They keep their mouths shut and fall in line. The republican establishment didn't want Trump in the first election but once he got the nod, they didn't dare break rank. He insulted Ted Cruz' wife and father abd that slithery snake sucks his wang. So if the party won't break rank, and the voters have shown they will show up for him, what are we talking about?
R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
Quote Originally Posted by sicknesscity:
Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:
The truly funny thing is democrats, putting all their eggs in the Russia probe basket, are now left without a platform. When will they learn that the American people want a candidate that takes stands on issues. That has a platform. Hillary's whole platform was, "Trump bad. Grab coochie. Anybody support Trump deplorable." How did that work out?
Okay but how did the Democrats fare in the midterms? Was it just a historic norm? This isn't 2016. I was one of the rare people who conclusively said more than a year ago that Trump wouldn't be indicted. My best guess was that Trump intentionally separated himself enough from the process so that nothing could definitively tie him to communications with Russians. You do understand it sounds ridiculous to the public that everyone in Trump's administration happened to have connections they were hiding, but somehow Trump just didn't know a single damn thing ever taking place. Yes, that is so plausible. It doesn't matter because I am offering the opposite opinion of yours. I believe Trump is damaging the brand name of Republicans every day. He does not look like someone who's calm and mature. He's petulant and can't shut up for a single day. He's likely angering real moderates and independents who aren't exactly thrilled when he's picking fights with someone who's dead. I will assert until the results of election day in 2020 that Trump supporters are the loudmouth minority, not the silent majority. If I'm dead wrong, then I'll choke on my words and apologize.
Yes, but the silent majority is just that. Silent. They keep their mouths shut and fall in line. The republican establishment didn't want Trump in the first election but once he got the nod, they didn't dare break rank. He insulted Ted Cruz' wife and father abd that slithery snake sucks his wang. So if the party won't break rank, and the voters have shown they will show up for him, what are we talking about?
Fake News 24-7 for 2 years... The 0 Administration fixed the Hillary investigation or I'm sorry "matter", then with the help of John McCain bore false witness with the dem candidate to slander the future POTUS.... Good luck with your Socialist out of touch moronic candidates... Can't wait for the dem debates.Trump wins in 2020 easily...Live with it losers...
What is it that you love about Trump so much? I don't dislike him so it's not a combative question but this love affair with him, or any politician, is puzzling to me. He spouts a bunch of rhetoric but doesn't follow it up with action. He sold half of the country on this idea that he's this blue collar everyman that cares about the American middle-class when clearly he's a silver spoon rich kid who only cares about serving the super rich.
R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:
Fake News 24-7 for 2 years... The 0 Administration fixed the Hillary investigation or I'm sorry "matter", then with the help of John McCain bore false witness with the dem candidate to slander the future POTUS.... Good luck with your Socialist out of touch moronic candidates... Can't wait for the dem debates.Trump wins in 2020 easily...Live with it losers...
What is it that you love about Trump so much? I don't dislike him so it's not a combative question but this love affair with him, or any politician, is puzzling to me. He spouts a bunch of rhetoric but doesn't follow it up with action. He sold half of the country on this idea that he's this blue collar everyman that cares about the American middle-class when clearly he's a silver spoon rich kid who only cares about serving the super rich.
Fake News 24-7 for 2 years... The 0 Administration fixed the Hillary investigation or I'm sorry "matter", then with the help of John McCain bore false witness with the dem candidate to slander the future POTUS.... Good luck with your Socialist out of touch moronic candidates... Can't wait for the dem debates.Trump wins in 2020 easily...Live with it losers...
What is it that you love about Trump so much? I don't dislike him so it's not a combative question but this love affair with him, or any politician, is puzzling to me. He spouts a bunch of rhetoric but doesn't follow it up with action. He sold half of the country on this idea that he's this blue collar everyman that cares about the American middle-class when clearly he's a silver spoon rich kid who only cares about serving the super rich.
Stu gets it
I'd just replace the last part with "only cares about serving himself."
Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:
Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:
Fake News 24-7 for 2 years... The 0 Administration fixed the Hillary investigation or I'm sorry "matter", then with the help of John McCain bore false witness with the dem candidate to slander the future POTUS.... Good luck with your Socialist out of touch moronic candidates... Can't wait for the dem debates.Trump wins in 2020 easily...Live with it losers...
What is it that you love about Trump so much? I don't dislike him so it's not a combative question but this love affair with him, or any politician, is puzzling to me. He spouts a bunch of rhetoric but doesn't follow it up with action. He sold half of the country on this idea that he's this blue collar everyman that cares about the American middle-class when clearly he's a silver spoon rich kid who only cares about serving the super rich.
Stu gets it
I'd just replace the last part with "only cares about serving himself."
The funny thing is all sides are spinning something that hasn't been released yet.
Trump being quiet is certainly interesting. Maybe something has leaked to him. But who knows. Speculation by any of us as to what is in the Mueller report serves no real purpose.
Final points are the Justice department and Mueller are going by the idiotic idea that a sitting President can't be indicted anyways so even if there is evidence of a crime or crimes, he can't be indicted. Also, collusion wouldn't appear in any of the documents as that isn't a crime and the word used would be conspiracy if the crime has actually been committed.
It doesn't matter what is released, the people that ignored the indictments and guilty pleas and convictions of people connected to Trump will ignored anything bad in the report. If there is anything good in the report they will be shouting it from the rooftops. Same goes for everyone on the opposite end of the spectrum.
The funny thing is all sides are spinning something that hasn't been released yet.
Trump being quiet is certainly interesting. Maybe something has leaked to him. But who knows. Speculation by any of us as to what is in the Mueller report serves no real purpose.
Final points are the Justice department and Mueller are going by the idiotic idea that a sitting President can't be indicted anyways so even if there is evidence of a crime or crimes, he can't be indicted. Also, collusion wouldn't appear in any of the documents as that isn't a crime and the word used would be conspiracy if the crime has actually been committed.
It doesn't matter what is released, the people that ignored the indictments and guilty pleas and convictions of people connected to Trump will ignored anything bad in the report. If there is anything good in the report they will be shouting it from the rooftops. Same goes for everyone on the opposite end of the spectrum.
The funny thing is all sides are spinning something that hasn't been released yet. Trump being quiet is certainly interesting. Maybe something has leaked to him. But who knows. Speculation by any of us as to what is in the Mueller report serves no real purpose. Final points are the Justice department and Mueller are going by the idiotic idea that a sitting President can't be indicted anyways so even if there is evidence of a crime or crimes, he can't be indicted. Also, collusion wouldn't appear in any of the documents as that isn't a crime and the word used would be conspiracy if the crime has actually been committed. It doesn't matter what is released, the people that ignored the indictments and guilty pleas and convictions of people connected to Trump will ignored anything bad in the report. If there is anything good in the report they will be shouting it from the rooftops. Same goes for everyone on the opposite end of the spectrum.
Some real good points here..
Trump is down here playing gold today & it's absolutely fantastic weather. Maybe he's quiet because it's play time, Maybe the report is being sanitized right now.
Right now I'm enjoying the ponies & basketball. Checked into this forum to see if there was any wisdom being shared.
Quote Originally Posted by moneym8:
The funny thing is all sides are spinning something that hasn't been released yet. Trump being quiet is certainly interesting. Maybe something has leaked to him. But who knows. Speculation by any of us as to what is in the Mueller report serves no real purpose. Final points are the Justice department and Mueller are going by the idiotic idea that a sitting President can't be indicted anyways so even if there is evidence of a crime or crimes, he can't be indicted. Also, collusion wouldn't appear in any of the documents as that isn't a crime and the word used would be conspiracy if the crime has actually been committed. It doesn't matter what is released, the people that ignored the indictments and guilty pleas and convictions of people connected to Trump will ignored anything bad in the report. If there is anything good in the report they will be shouting it from the rooftops. Same goes for everyone on the opposite end of the spectrum.
Some real good points here..
Trump is down here playing gold today & it's absolutely fantastic weather. Maybe he's quiet because it's play time, Maybe the report is being sanitized right now.
Right now I'm enjoying the ponies & basketball. Checked into this forum to see if there was any wisdom being shared.
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